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onikame
They are within their rights to ask for maximum qualification at minimum compensation. Then you just lie your ass off and work for 15 an hr.
Rivalyn
Unfulfillable requirements or undesirable offers let them bypass rules that say they must offer certain jobs locally before outsourcing.
LurkerOfDarkness
And they get approval? Their application should be denied with the comment "only realistic positions, no fake job offers"
RampantWolf
Facebook does this scam.
TypoNinja
HB-1 bait.
johnvictor
As well if they do find a candidate that fulfills those requirements willing to work at that rate they will grind them into fucking dust.
Ruhig
Or, hiring the random person that they want to give the job to, despite requirements for an open process.
GabbyJayYay
best way to tell is if the job opening is for the bare minimum length of time required/ 10 days for some
JustaDick
Additionally, they'll often list their "ideal" requirements to justify paying you less if you don't meet all of them.
TheFatherMind
Holy Crap you nailed it.
JohnLemon
There it is.
Hamboningwillsaveyourlife
Ah yes, this is it.
Becker37
Hope that company goes out of business
DrewSf29
Thank god for those circles or I woulda missed it
JimSleepWracker
Made possible by the "you must go to college" crowd.
SomeDetroitGuy
...how would it not be legal?
ProfTreeFrog2000
Perhaps if the job has temporal or project-based characteristics that require a salary, this is below FLSA minimum, would need OT.
gis4gif
Not if it’s social workers
timeywimeypickles
Or MFTs
Plooperoo
Was just about to make that comment. True.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
Or landscape architects.
Lambast
I recall that (in 2009 at least) the Johnson Matthey UK starting salary for a STEM graduate was £19K, and £24K for a PhD.
Lethalcgreen
Its an over saturated fiels
Snooj
My wife spent 6 years in college to get degrees in sociology and psychology and her first job was working alongside people with HS diplomas.
ACSwineburne
Sounds like an engineer for an aerospace company.
stairwaytoheaven99
As a social work student, this hits hard
friskydancerr
Come to Australia. I graduated from a master's in social Work. AU$55k -60k Starting salary I'm government SW jobs
tdawg555
I have a masters degree in social work. Most of my job offers were for far more than this and I dont live in an area where they pay the best
HypnagogicHallucinations
Good point. I'd say this must be for social work, but then masters would be mandatory.
BirrdyBirrd
And you have to transport clients in your own vehicle
tdawg555
This is probably what a bach degree makes in social work. I'm a master and starting it you do much better.
Deletingmypastandfuture
I was thinking that too. Depending on where your at this maybe the beat available... still, there better be damn good bennies
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Deletingmypastandfuture
benefits... but Cafe Du Monde is amazing. I got beignets there every morning while in Nee Orleans.
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
I hired Masters level at $12-14 at my job 2013-2018. Got in trouble with the director cause my staff made average of $.60 more than site 2.
p3aker
Doing what ?
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
Therapist support (not primary therapists) in residential treatment for mental health
candiduscorvus
And the HR fools who are looking to hire for that will wonder why nobody "qualified" is applying.
TheKnowing1
Unrealistic job requirements like this is usually a sign of a company doing H1B scamming.
EvilDeadTed
"Look! We couldn't find any oil workers in North Dakota that speak Hindi. I guess we'll need to hire from India!"
TheKnowing1
It's usually more like, "we couldn't find anything with a PhD and 20 years experience for $30k a year"
justcuzican
We need to see the entire posting so every single one of us can apply for it. Fuck them.
ILovedUnicornsFirst
I’ve been having a discussion with my SO and he believes that if college is free, (like I think it should be,) that this kind of thing will>
ILovedUnicornsFirst
>happen more frequently due to saturation of the job market. I told him it’s already happening and poor people deserve an education, too.>
ILovedUnicornsFirst
>I’m just kind of wanting y’all’s opinions on this. I’m willing to listen to opposing view points, also. Just wanted more input.
TummyTroubles
Not illegal just more people have graduated with degrees over the last couple years then in the history of degrees. They become devalued
TummyTroubles
Also, yeah thats shit on the pay part, what a joke
NomadGray
Fuck. This. Country.
lolhwat
"Oh no, nobody applied. Guess we will have to outsource the job to another country"
Fargus57
This is exactly what the company I work for is doing right now. "We haven't been able to fill positions with qualified U.S. applicants".
theclothesfolder
In some fields that they oversold degrees on... it happens
RideTheStimutacs
I see you there, willing to work some evenings and probably weekends. You can't hide from me.
thalesrr
Thing is there is someone who's gonna apply and accept that job just to get out of unemployment. It's a shitty salary I know!
Lethalcgreen
Happens in over saturated fields
phrancke9000
preferred is not required and minimum is not maximum
LasciviousHedgehog
There is currently a job on LinkedIn in the UK for a physical chemist with masters degree & 3 years experience for a max salary of £21k
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
I once interviewed with a place to replace a departing senior engineer. It was a shock to all that I made double in my current job what the
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
departing guy was making. M.S. degree + I think 5ish year experience working for like $40k in Houston, TX. Even that guy's managers didn't
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
seem to realize how underpaid he was until they had to replace him.
SpeedyCerviche
*Australians with a $21 minimum wage trying not to make eye contact*
SuntJack
Bro in my country if you get 600$ per month you're set. Also the prices at almost everything are the same...
ToobleBobbin
Looks like social work
ThisIsWhyIDontTrustPeople
I'd apply for the job and put my salary requirements in my cover letter. Make it known to these idiots what they should be paying.
masterschreck
I have a master's degree and that's what i earn.
Thephedora
That is fucking criminal
bongles
Seems like a problem
cemeterymeri
Same here. I work for a non-profit
EvilDeadTed
Oh, Honey...
alexhartang
sounds like poor job choice. Stop taking these jobs and companies will have less incentive to pay shit for grad degree holders.
MegaDeuce
Teachers have a bachelors at minimum, what do they make per hour?
Logwarrior999
My niece just graduated college and got hired in the Trophy Club, TX area school district for 53k a year to start. That's 1,580hrs, so 33.97
alexhartang
not to mention only working 9 months a year, makes it even higher.
Logwarrior999
My reply was based on 75% of the standard 2,080 work hours
MegaDeuce
34/hour at a 40 hour week, but how much if you include the time she spends grading and planning?
Logwarrior999
No idea. It's salary, so technically it's not easily converted.
Burgerdan2Tall
Minimum Salary, if you have a masters go for broke man, $40 an hour man. If they won't pay you that tell them no.
MaxRodrigues12
I worked with a guy who had a masters who was getting paid $12 an hour. Sometimes have to take shit just for some experience if no one hires
Burgerdan2Tall
Thats a good point, experience does seem to be more important in most cases.
dave262
Some masters degrees aren’t worth paying $40/hr
Burgerdan2Tall
True, I think the average is pretty close, this job mentions something in Microsoft so I'm assuming its business related or tech.
isthatwhatthemustacheisfor
Dude a master’s isn’t a magic ticket to a higher paycheck. That line of thinking gets people deeply in debt.
TypoNinja
The degree won't magically make cash appear in your bank, but if the job requires that, it needs to pay an appropriate amount.
Burgerdan2Tall
That's a fair point, but if you do have a master's taking a 15 $/hr job isn't gonna help pay it off. But if its a master's I'm guessing...
Burgerdan2Tall
...are doing it because you love the field not because your looking for more pay. I could be wrong though.
RCannaid
Not being able to pay off the cost of college up through a Masters degree because of insufficient pay also gets people in debt.
lupinypupper
Correct- to exaggerate the argument- me going to school and getting 5 degrees doesn’t earn me 5x more pay. Work is paid on supply and demand
Siptro
minimum salary is not paid to people with preferred qualifications
TheVenerableJudgeTaintyMcPoo
As a hiring manager, this is patently false.
vampirelibrarian
Wrong. Everywhere I've ever worked you're almost guaranteed to start at the bottom no matter what you're qualifications are
manofthewest1993
Yeah but you get hired, and you get a salary boost when you... Hahahaha, yeah fucking right, fuck these slave runners
ihavethelowground
Well in this case prefered qualification is quite high
OopsMeansTruLuv42
This isn't minimum salary. Check the federal minimum salary in your state.
polarpurple
/Federal/ minimum in their... State?
OopsMeansTruLuv42
I may have had a brain fart. I...did. I. Had. A brainfart.
SometimesIBuildThings
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Dranton12
Listen I’ll give you that it’s supposed to work that way but have you seen what’s going on out there?
1AMTHEBATMAN
Im applying for jobs now after getting my masters. it seems everyone wants experience as well as proof of awards and shit too
stevescubasteve
Very true. I have little to no qualifications and I have a minimum salary
funtobehad
I've hired a few hundred people. Minimum salary goes to whoever will take it, regardless of qualifications, unless it's union or government.
funtobehad
And you'd be surprised how many people take it without asking for more.
MyDadSaysButanesABastardGas
In my defense in the past, this is much more difficult for women to do than men. Ended up taking a seminar on women and salary negotiations
MyDadSaysButanesABastardGas
We sat there and literally practiced saying phrases like, “is there any room for negotiation” and now to try and aim higher to even out
CycloneSP
most ppl are afraid to ask for more, because they have no bargaining power. They think if they ask for more, they'll get nothing instead
CumsInPies
Well if you offer that as a minimum salary your not gonna get people who have the preferred qualifications
polarpurple
Think of it as their Amazon wish list. Then attempt to demonstrate why you're the best choice.
thorinsbeard
I get paid $26 an hour without a bachelor's degree. Don't be stupid, build valuable skills, and apply to places that value those skills.
CidColetti
I make the same and have no degree. That said, in my particular business I have nearly hit the high end of my salary potential w/o a degree.
nosaucesbutapplesauces
Bro. Those places are hard to find.
Zakn3fein
Same, no degree, no certs, just skill and experience. I make 30$hr
mattlmilitia
Doctors, therapists, nurses, educators, lawyers, and even (trigger warning) some police are required to have degrees.
HurtinAlbertan
Why do the rapists need degrees
mattlmilitia
Ok first I was confused, then pissed, then damn near pissed my pants laughing. Well done!
IndianTechSupport41
I am still confused
doppelfisch
Reference to this https://youtu.be/hElOag-1a0k
sortofkindamadbutnotreally
Are you me? Same here, and I agree completely. Find your niche and ply that shit like theres no tomorrow. I worked my way here from $9/hour.
IsThatA380InMyPocketOrAmIHappyToSeeYou
I make between $23 and $93 an hour with a GED. Thanks, trades!
Throrf
Also, don't live in a shit country. I get paid 11/hour with a PhD working in biotech :)
drcookieninja
I mean.... Bachelor's varies. Nursing is a bachelor's, MD is an undergrad. Engineering is bachelor's, comp sci, Enviro sci, chemistry...
defaultbunny
... as I struggle to pay rent & put food on the table. Ppl take these jobs out of desperation - people posting these job depend on that.
DI2EAD
$34.00 and some change with a GED and no formal education! Build skills people will pay for...
PrfctDrk
What are some steps you think I should take to get out of Home Depot and get in to some job that allows me this kind of moolah
DI2EAD
I could go on for a while, but I actually work in retail and I say to people all the time: show up and be willing to learn/work hard and 1/
DI2EAD
You will be ahead of 75% of *most* people. People are so quick to think retail (in our case) and Home Depot “isn’t good enough” and want 2/
DI2EAD
More - but truth be told, sticking around a little while and making yourself a go-to person, with a great attitude, pays off - in my case.
dafawkudoin
Apply for community college, any classes even if a trade is filled up. Pick welding, hvac, electrical. In the mean time, network with some
dafawkudoin
Of your customers. The obvious contractors not the “neighborhood guy” Contractors are ALWAYS looking for good help. A good can do attitude
dafawkudoin
A “can I have your card and submit an application” Always gets a yes. You’ll start out low but here’s the rule many have forgotten. Ready?
MikeAnK
Welding is an EXTREMELY valuable trade with constant demand and plenty of jobs. Get certified with your local community college.
WeeblesWobble
I’m paid well with only an Associates degree, but it required an incredible amount of luck to get where I am.
Leberbs
I'm there, but I feel like college was a waste. The market trend says I should be $10 or more than I'm making now.
UWAGAGABLAGABLAGABA
$46 no degree. This job posting is the dumbest.
MrKibbs
I get paid $22 an hour to watch potatoes. I tired college but soon learned I don’t need it to make money
princessweirdo23
Hi. Yes. What is your job title? I can totally watch potatoes
MrKibbs
Hello! Yes, I am the watcher of potatoes. My actual job title is “Forman” & I work for a large bakery in Indiana. I’m basically an overpaid
MrKibbs
Baby sitter. My coworkers are idiots but HR told me I can call them idiots because that upsets them so I call them my potatoes.
MrKibbs
I know I shouldn’t insult people but honestly the things I’ve heard and seen from my potatoes is just mind boggling.
Atomic2
Im ashamed to even say how much I got paid last year without a college degree. People skills go a LONG way.
squreky
$75/hr here. I have a masters in electrical engineering but I'm a construction manager for a company I've worked with since I was a laborer.
itsthevoiceman
I have people skills. But I'm not getting shameful amounts of money. Whatchu doing, goddammit?!
Atomic2
Do you have people skills or are you a good talker? Those are different things. I'm in sort of a B2B sales/consultant type roll now. Started
Atomic2
with B2B sales at a very blue collar type industry. Some people think they have great people skills but all they do is talk and never ask >
Atomic2
and listen. Nobody likes being sold to, they like to buy. When you do all the talking, you're selling. When you're engaging in a >
whereintheworldisfozziebear
I work in pharmaceutical manufacturing. Have no college degree, made 6 figures last year. All because of the connections I've made.
itsthevoiceman
Ah, networking. That part I suck at.
whereintheworldisfozziebear
It helps that I'm a sociable and outgoing person. I try to make friends at all my jobs, because of the help I've gotten in the past. 1/2
whereintheworldisfozziebear
For this job, it was someone I was just friendly to. She called me up 2 yrs after she quit and offered me a job she was a manager for. 2/2
Velonici
You and me both. :(
xcrit
$47/hr & expelled in grade 10, went straight to working shit jobs like cleaning accident scenes for $12, slowly became a nerd.
MrJwinkyface
9 years in the military and 5 years of college. None of it mattered for the job I got paying $25 an hour. All I need was my GED
Snooj
Well, maybe. When I was a hiring manager people with military experience were always far more professional. I hired people, not resumes.
Snooj
If there were two identical candidates except for one with military experience I guarantee you that person was on time and dressed well 1-
Snooj
and could answer questions like a human being. I've had people be late to interviews and admit they were hung over. Crazy shit. 2-2
BeefcakeMcStud
Worked 12 hours a day, six days a week for a year and then some. Now I make 28/hr and better hours. Im only 22. Takes grit in working class.
antidumb
I make ~38 an hour with a high school diploma. Agree 100%
Wsurower
I have a BS, making $31-33/hr, my co-workers all have a HS diploma except one old guy who only made it through the 9th grade. Learn a trade!
serokiCat
HS diploma here as well. Currently at 120k writing software in ohio. Started in help desk @ 11/hr 15 years ago
alex5775
I think it's harder now to get into software without a degree. Still one of the easier high paying careers to get into degreeless though
Xedi22
Especially if you can play the game. Got in on IT and moved to the business side. Made it to VP at Fortune 50...no college.
Xedi22
(I did get one credit a TESU so I could legit say “some college” and make HR happy at one point.)
SDev0
Disagree. You either need experience or a degree and experience is regarded to higher than a degree
alex5775
I think this is becoming less and less true as more people seek formal education for software. Especially because of classes like data 1/
Takuun
I don't suppose you could offer advice on where to start? I'm currently in a retail job and I don't know where to start to try improving.
TheD1C
Best decision I ever made was working at a managed service provider, 8 years later, I am a Sr Net Engineer for a bank. Never Stop Improving.
SDev0
Managed service provider?
serokiCat
Best thing I can say is pick up a book and start messing around with things. Python is a great place to start. Codeacademy has good starters
ZacharyPhillips
Call center, I make $17 an hour. Been there 2 years. Have them pay for your degree and look for somewhere better.
Takuun
That seems like a good idea, I'm terrified of a job where I have to interact with people being 70% deaf makes communicating difficult.
SharkPantsBabyShoes
I've got a fourth grade education and I bang your mom the weekends
squintWatcher
I, too, have a fourth grade education but much prefer my own mom on the weekends.
jellyonrooster
I make 28 an hour with full benefits and pensuin without finishing highschool
TheLeftNugget
I'm sorry, full benefits and WHAT?
MikeAnK
I think he means penguin... he gets full benefits AND a freaking penguin!!! That’s awesome. How often can you get another penguin?
TeacupCannibal
Penicillin.
clutchthepearls
They teach you spell pension in high school, but yeah.
jellyonrooster
Honestly I'm suprised the auto correct didnt catch that
Itchy73
I make $125/hr at 25. My BEng paid off. I would argue in specific instances, competence isn't proportionately awarded.
SDev0
What do you do that makes 125 an hour? Petroleum engineering or A.I. development?
Itchy73
Electrical Engineering. I'm paid in stock partially and ours has gone up. I was originally closer to $65/hr.
PrfctDrk
Apprenticeships can render life-long skills, massive money, but tons and tons of labor
Souljah42
What do you do?
antidumb
IT. Make more as a help desk monkey than I did as a jack of all trades at my prior employer.
servingmytimeinusersub
What training/qualifications do you have? I'm making 20 with no real education but would love to find something less physical.
antidumb
I tinkered a lot for a long time and make the right connections at the right time. I have zero formal education or qualifications.
TeacupCannibal
$32/hr with a college degree, but employer paid for the degree. Started doc. control, currently microbiologist.
BeckysaurusRex
Is that a bachelors or masters? :o
TeacupCannibal
Bachelors. They'll also pay a certain amount for masters but I'm not sure if I'm going to do that just yet.
Itsasnowconemaker
I agree ! High school diploma and I pulled in over 120k last year as a full time videographer. Determination & passion for what you do ?
Jaymezians
20 an hour high school dropout. Dropped out to start working. Those bastards tried to make me go to college!
dreamweaver35
I get paid $31 an hour and all I have a high school diploma
aronanon
IT specialist. I started slinging cable and now I’m maintaining networks. People will always pay well for you to fix the problems they can’t
johnvictor
Man if I could do it all over again I'd learn IT for my own enrichment and go into HVAC repair to make the money.
Zakn3fein
Whaddup fellow IT!!!
captain0marvel
Imma need a how to manual on this or at least a brief synopsis on all this right here
thorinsbeard
There's this man called Mike Rowe, he made a show called dirty jobs. You should watch it.
lindsayadult
Trades
duhqueenmoki
Seeing all the comments makes me sad. I had to go to school for 7 years to become a teacher. For $59k a year.
alittlesticious
Same. I’m a teacher in NC with 10 years experience and a Masters. I make 45 a year.
postingpandas
Teachers should be paid way more, it's criminal that you get paid that low
effigyoma
I was a web editor for a TV station and made $30k in 2010 with a master's. Job only needed a bachelor's, but it still hurt.
StandWithUkraine
Become teacher if you like working with children, not because of the pay. I know many people who studied for teachers but don't like
StandWithUkraine
working with kids. They have their job, just because is easier and well payed in my country.
duhqueenmoki
I didn't become a teacher for the money but still, it's disheartening that the qualifications are so high yet pay is so low
iAML8
I earn $80/hr cleaning windows - it's my own business.
xcrit
What if it rains?
iAML8
Put on a raincoat and careful not to slip :)
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
That's a legit price since you have to pay all insurances and materials and what not yourself.
iAML8
I only have about 2k/3k worth of gear (exc car) which I've accumulated and insurance and workcover is around $3k. Overheads are pretty low.
CycloneSP
is this the rate you charge your customers? or what you pay yourself after all other expenses are taken care of?
iAML8
I don't tell clients that rate, but that's how I work it out on my mind when quoting for them.
Sumtinstink
Darn right. 83/ 130hr depending on the job type (general contracting). I hr. Minimum...
Himalayiantortoise
I worked for a cleaning co. Mainly did floors but occasionally had to do windows. Wanted to shoot myself in the face when I had window jobs
Takuun
I'm currently sanitation in a grocery, Don't suppose you have an advice on where to look for better jobs to improve? I like Cleaning.
Himalayiantortoise
Well my company cleaned businesses in the pm. It didnt pay well, but if you're interested, go on indeed and search janitorial/cleaning
Himalayiantortoise
Companies. If carpets are your thing, carpet cleaning tech. Also did flood/fire restoration and that paid well but long hours and weekends.
Himalayiantortoise
Expertise was in floors, not in windows. No matter what people were never, ever, satisfied. Kudos to you, I couldnt do thay for a living.
iAML8
It's mostly new homes that I do which is even more tedious. It has its days, once you get your technique right it's a piece of cake.
veryfarawaycountry
Windows high up in buildings? like in the movies?
iAML8
Haha nah nothing that exciting. It's mostly new buildings so I work off scaffold snd ladders, also have a waterfed pole system.
veryfarawaycountry
How many floors is your range? I live in a country with very few buildings over 2 floors.
iAML8
Most of the houses we do are two storeys... Sometimes three. If you're on Instagram you can look at my work: regen_cleaning_maintenance
WeAreJustDustInTheWind
HS drop out and my local factories and mills pay more and have insurance, they will hire no Exp, made only 38K last year, was enough
RampantWolf
Simply become an electrician through their apprenticeship programs and flex on degree holders as you make 35 an hour in 5 years at age 23
GlobeWide
As a person without a college degree I'd like to think that a person with one would know better than to even bother applying to that job.
seakoos
That's the minimum / starting point. It goes up from their.
Babycl0wn
Up from their what, ass?
DianNaoChong
We're at or approaching 30 percent unemployment. So....
EmailFail
Crappy part for advanced degree folk is when that Bull shit comes out much later. Had a few lawyer job offers at 20k with no benefits
DungeonMaster69
You apply, get the job, and tell them to go fuck themselves when signing the contract. Waste their time for wasting yours
revivelocalmultiplayer
That's all of the jobs in sciences, bud. It's apply or starve
WelllllIllBeDamned
I would set up an appointment and not show up then call to reschedule
MicahtheMartian
When that's the market rate you don't have very many options.
rhmeclipse
It reminds me of the choosing beggars online that try to buy a $250 item for $75 and say you’re missing out when you laugh at them.
2graves
Lol yeah selling a laptop for about that and the offers are dumb
DeathdealerFox
I just got my MEd and applying for everything. I'll work at a grocery store if it makes me money.
GlobeWide
There is nothing wrong with working at a grocery store. My mother was a career checker. It can earn a living.
DeathdealerFox
I dont think there is anything wrong with it. I just mean that Im at the point in my life where making money is more important than my feild
GlobeWide
I understand. Almost all my friends got degrees and then went into trades. They wasted their money on arts degrees.
DeathdealerFox
I know a few people that did that. I got useful degrees and had a job lined up but with everything going on it lost funding.
OlderWiser
After the recession hit in 2008, we had quite a few masters degreed people working the shop floor in the factory i was in.
Ebo352
Did that a few times; got to drive the pallet movers and man-ups. Hated most of it but at least that was fun.
GlobeWide
Good for them. You have to start somewhere.
OlderWiser
Yep. I admire people who will do what it takes instead of ranting on social media about how they’re not being taken care of.
SantasAnagram
But at the same time, companies have been extremely undervaluing people's labour for an extended period of time with no consequences.
johnvictor
Overqualified and underpaid is a thing in our current job market. We have people with degrees barely making enough to get by.
lindaparker231624
Amen to that ‘
noctynight
There's nothing else available... Unfortunately...
RoryBlack1
Probably trying to take advantage of covid unemployment which is absolutely fucking diagusting
jtorni
Unfortunately this is what companies feel you are worth. Starbucks will pay you better
stridert212
Really hard to turn them down when your student loans start becoming due and you can't find anything else
NotGoodConfessionBear
I just found out my boss makes $5 more than me.
DracidWasTaken
If apply and go to the interview just to waste their time and tell them their hourly rate is bullshit
Samja192
Id say people are starting to realise they were sold into getting a very expensive piece of paper that's worth fuck all to employers
HotsauceIsLethal
I actually make more money in less time than I would have with my degree. Sad world we live in.
DovahKween
As a person without a college degree, even I wouldn’t apply for a job paying that little.
nero4ty2
Depends, my last job had that stipulation but I started at 35
CavendishBandana
Nah, you apply and then mention you want $40/hr (or something) and when they say $15.29 you say no, that was minimum. What's your max?
theillicittruth
Huh? Care to elaborate?
DonWrigley
They’re saying you don’t take the minimum and negotiate for a better starting salary. Just because they list the minimum, ask for more
funtobehad
SatanicSpirals
As a person with a college degree, I've worked for less than minimum wage to pay my Bill's after graduating.
uncletouchysbasement
You'd make more cutting grass.
johnvictor
As someone with a degree that was jobless for six months and starving sometimes you take what you can get for food on the table and a roof.
jwbc843
Or better yet not major in a degree that pays so poorly.
1AMTHEBATMAN
There is a problem beyond that though. Any job that requires an MA shouldnt pay so low.
jwbc843
I knew a girl in college that racked up $100k at a private school for a career choice that was majority volunteer. Her pay was $32k/year. /2
jwbc843
She was so made about it. Not mad at her self but the industry that wouldn't support her pipe dream. I wanted to be a park ranger but it /3
jwbc843
doesn't pay so I got an engineering degree. I'm making great money in construction. We've got to be smart about our careers.
4forensicExpertsSayHiToEveryoneWhoHasBeenWorkingHard
Not in a sellers market
Formalis
No degrees, spent the last 10 years working harder than the people in my office with them. I’m starting a degree course next year. Change!
tantalumRM
I have an MSc. Chemistry. Lab, research, and quality c/a jobs pay so low. Now doing pharma sales with my skills, make much more.
neuroscienceandaclockworkorange
For this exact reason, I decided to make the change from lab sciences to nursing. My ABSN starts next month.
CascadiaPNW
BS in chemistry realized even with masters there was shit for jobs. Work in healthcare now.
OmnibusLatinName
Man, I was really thinking about getting into chem eng. Glad I didn't
GlobeWide
I have a cousin living in New Zealand doing pharma. She does pretty well and she is young.
AnInkyBoo
It makes me sad you make more selling the chemistry than you did working with chemistry.
GlobeWide
https://youtu.be/ohguwyFECHI
InspectorA5
When I graduated with a master's degree, I applied to 672 job openings, 174 which led to interviews... 4 offers.
Spenne
I mean I don't want to make you jealous or anything but I'm on $45/h as an unqualified carpenter. I live in NZ
Lasgo
You went to 174 interviews....
MarkWithAQue
Bachelor degree in Emergency Management (working on a master's currently) 150 applications in, 4 interviews and 1 offer.
EmailFail
Good God you hit you that pavement. Way to work it
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
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EmailFail
Best of luck to you!
bustyalexa
Seriously! That’s so many applications!
KillerTofu615
not really.
goocie
Im at 98 aplications as of now, shits hard...
InspectorA5
2 offers died b/c the office closed and since worked the other 2 starting at $12.75 per hr. Was construction inspector. Now licensed P.E.
LadySorela
My husband works customer service from home for $13.25/hr, and we're still poor af. I'm currently studying for my BA hoping to make ends
FierceAndAdorable
What is your major?
LadySorela
English, w/Secondary Education. Wanting to teach and qualify for loan forgiveness (fingers crossed)
LadySorela
Meat, not feeling very hopeful right now
LadySorela
Family of 4, two kids under 16
CycloneSP
As someone with a BA in web tech and design, I wish you the best of luck. (I'm currently also a CSR making $13/hr)
LadySorela
It would be highly coincidental if you worked for DTV too
InspectorA5
Caucasian straight male born U.S., no past experience, no references, no family / friends in industry. Started bottom and still there; $72k
MikeMcAwesome91
Be proud of yourself and keep up the good work. When you get to the top, change things for the next generation.
Maviyakuku
What's caucasian got to do with it? America needs divine intervention.
theillicittruth
Probably to show that he belongs to the least discriminated group of people possible and it was still hard for him to land a job.
GlobeWide
Is this recently?
rob0tgot
Damn, I started construction inspection at $16 and moved companies to get to 23. Geology degree. Hope it's improved universally
DukeofKMS
72k is a not bottom. 35k is the Median. U a rich boi!
Hexxxxxxxxx
Depends on where they live
Cronos51101
$72K for a masters + PE definitely sounds low. I'm at about $84K with a BSME + 6yrs in west MI. For what I do I think I'm a little underpaid
BriefausdemGeist
Depends on state
Movietimeme
Really depends on where you live. In the SF Bay Area 72k won’t buy you a home.
YouThinkThisMatters
Yeah 72 may be the bottom for a Masters. But be glad you are making enough to support yourself. I've survived on half that my entire life
DonWrigley
Location? $72k could be high or low depending.
InspectorA5
Texas, industry ave for civil engr ~ 87k at 10 years. But that's private and I work for TXDOT.
adamlh642
Shoot my starting w masters will be near 50k. Not to bad XD
BubbleGumNuggys
12.75 is pretty low and nowhere close to 72k a year. That's almost double what I make and I get 22 an hour
lynxBeast
Interesting fact every 5/hr is about 10k a year.
lynxBeast
Wow I mean that’s a lot Im not sure there is even 600 job postings in my area
NebulousPugs
Wait, are you saying you make $72k a year and you're complaining? Am I missing something? I have friends who can't afford to eat, dude...
Flortzweich
My God that is awful...
SUREEMANN
No degree here. Making that and more in IT. My job description normally requires masters. Luckily IT puts skills over paper.
thevortexmaster
Wow, I make $70k and benefits as a chef. worked my ass off starting at 12 years old though. Now 38. I've applied to 2 places in my life
GlobeWide
70k is pretty dang good dude. You must be doing something right! ;)
Megadentron
72k is bottom wtf
chromed
For someone with 11 years of college and work to get their PE? Yes.
VitusApollo
I started at $43k with a masters, which in my area with rent prices I was losing $50/mo. 5y later I'm now at $92k from promotions.
chromed
Wait you get raises when you're promoted? I just got told my salary cap was higher and if I did a good job this year it would go up.