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Oh and lookie here, me putting in an edit at 11:58 pm when i have to be up super early tomorrow cause we have a field trip AND i’n going out of town after that for 2 days!
resolved
3pm-6pm dead tired, wide awake there after
C141Clay
WHOOPER13
I fell seen
permissiontolosedenied
No you are not
boognish115
Uh is this me?
rockingus
not sure how many you have on the ol' register but w/ 45+ in the bag I've found that a 20 min power nap between 2 and 3 PM does wonders.
between 3 and 4 also.
... and 3:30 and 4:30. ya, don't forget the 5 o'clock hour either. got 2 couches? ALTERNATE! RESPECT THE NAP!!!
IamWolfduke
Can confirm, as soon as I turn 40 I nap like a cat.... Also awake through the night like one. I don't quite have their zoomies though.
rain67
Same! then waking up at 3:00 in the morning and not being able to go back to sleep.
bot1010011010
same
--me at 4am
VendyMoviePrincess
Yep, I get that a lot. Home from work, sit in my chair, nod off.
Yufer
Yep and then when i finally start nodding off again my cat will wake me up.
Pebblebro
There are dozens of us!!
Emberskyes
Welcome to my nightmare.
encrypteddecryption
I feel like I just discovered a new community! I have been telling people this for years: I'm exhausted around 6p-8p, and then the circus comes to town around 10p-11p. Unless I'm on like my third or fourth day with > 5 hoirs of sleep, or sunburnt, If I fall asleep before midnight, I usually wake up after an hour, and usually stuck awake until the sun comes up.
mckjm2
I hear that.
I'm struggling to get through work and feel like I'm going to fall asleep.
Get home, get to bed, ALL THE ENERGY.
I'm like, where was this shit 8 hours ago, when I NEEDED it!
TommyDaCat
I gotta go to sleep before 11. If I don’t, the sun comes up.
Wasgoneforyearsbutambacktocopewiththecrazy
Have you tried mindless youtube rabbit holes?
DocTanner
It's not just you. My two-month-old daughter has the exact same problem. 😭
sabrae
That's normal. You have sleep cycles that are favorable to falling asleep, if you resist then your brain will need to wait for the next cycle.
Calicoastin818
Graveyard shift might be right for you
beerlady
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EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
Happens all the time. That's why I love gummies!
gitguuud
Every fucking day
Shiznit007
Exact same reason I'm up reading this right now
HeShallKnowYourWaysAsIfBornToThem
Nope. That's my life.
wfo87Stang
Yuh Mid forties and this is the pattern I can’t break but unfortunately need to be getting up at 5:30 AM for work. But by 5 I’m falling asleep and getting nothing done after work
hannibalbarcalounger
How much sleep do you think you get each night?
Have you ever woke yourself up from snoring?
Lots of people in their mid-40s fix their poor sleep with a CPAP.
You'd think it's about getting better rest each night but the actual effect is to gift you 3 more hours of wakefulness from 5:30-8:30 PM. No more coming home from work and plopping down in a chair too wiped to do anything but scroll.
BixbyConsequence
Sleep when it feels natural. There's nothing wrong with "segmented sleep"; people have slept that way through most of history. Make use of your wakeful periods until you feel sleepy again.
iamgnat
I'm in this meme and I don't like it.
Fairly common for me to fall asleep in my chair around 8, wake up around 9:30, and then rarely fall asleep before 2😒
BobbyMoonshine
Try this. When you start feeling sleepy, sleep for 20 minutes. No more! Put your alarm on and your phone somewhere you have to get up for. Helped me.
GilliamTheButcher
I wish naps did it for me. Instead I just wake up feeling like I shotgunned a gallon of vodka with a fresh hatred for consciousness.
ThomasTheWankEnglne
need to get moving at 6-8, go walk or be up. not just lounging.
Myowngrampa
But prime lounge time
aurifex
Yeah I get home from work between those times last thing I want to do is anything
QuantumPlonk
A light walk with a destination in mind like a bench or so to rest in nature goes a long way if you want to rather rest
ThomasTheWankEnglne
well yeah..thats the fuckin problem right there
GilliamTheButcher
Happens to me all the time. Except then I don't get tired again until 3am. And if I fall asleep at 6ish, I wake up at midnight.
spiceass9000
Yup
Nanowave
Same for me, dead tired 6pm but if I fight through it will be 2am before I can sleep
slightlybrokenegg
I am here having fallen asleep at 6pm awake at 12 am as it was foretold
lostwalllet
3:10 am checking in!
GilliamTheButcher
Guess who's still awake!
DrMcNasti3ID
For me it's depression. Severe depression. Nothing better than being tired, not being able to sleep long hours and waking up so much at night that you just give up on sleeping
Teratoid
I'm on an inverted schedule. I sleep from 6am-noon. I hate it.
racknoz
I'm a night owl and my natural sleep schedule is sleeping from 4-5 AM till 12-2 PM. But my job requires me getting up at 6 AM, so I struggle with sleep on work days and can not fall asleep before midnight.
Targe0
You have a schedule, so you're better than I am. Rolling sleep pattern. Where will it land, nobody knows.
Futchm
There's a theory that prior to widespread use of lighting at night humans went to sleep at dusk for 4 hours, woke up around midnight for a couple hours, then went back to sleep until dawn
Amomani
slipvyne
I did bi-phasic sleeping in college. I worked midnight - 8am, 8:30-4:30 was school. I did an 'everyman', sleep 4 hours with 3 15m naps.
hazelnuts4peace
I've read that. My sleep issues could be better explained by that and not shift work. (4-12 am) Thnx
freakdiablo
Surprisingly, I felt the most rested working nights following a similar pattern, even though I was getting <8 hours of sleep a day. I'd get home around 5am, pass out by 6, wake up at 10am, then pass out for another ~2 hours around 3pm. It was great cuz I had the middle of the day to run errands when stores were typically empty.
hullabanana
Loving these comments, so I’m not crazy, we all are
idontreadyourreplies
dawn and dusk are the prime hunting times, makes more sense we would sleep during dark night and have a siesta during the day
PosthumousExile
Along the same vein was a theory that we have different sleep cycles so that someone is always awake to keep watch
Kehy
That trait likely stuck around after need to night watch as someone who keeps the fire stored and burning through the night. A couple power outages points to this being quite important
manwithsevenlivers
I like to watch... Wait, what?
jadams999
I am the watcher
SonnyVabitch
Who watches the watchmen?
Shouldhavethoughtthisthroughabitbetter
the nightshift.
Saxytimes
That's me!
SonnyVabitch
Who shifts the nightshift?
Ginoawesomesauce
I wake up most nights for an hour or two, around 3. I used to hate it and thought something was wrong with me. Then I learned about this idea, and just started to embrace it. I just go to bed a little earlier, and get a little alone time while everyone is sleeping.
Purrsist
Same
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
Second sleep is so good
kaijacoaster
Second sleep is my favorite sleep
GTimgur
I've always wondered the basis for this could possibly be. It's never mentioned historically, and there's not much reason for us to have stopped in living memory. Doing anything productive at that due to the lack of convenient lighting makes it so impractical. Even rush lights aren't going to make life easy.
Ginoawesomesauce
I didn't have a lot of examples, but in War and Peace there's at least one party where the dad, who is the host, goes and lays down for a few hours, then awakes and rejoins, and its somewhat implied its normal for older folks to do so while the young ones can party all night. Also, at least the sleeping patterns in various places (Spain is a prime example) show one large continuous sleep is not a biological imperative, but instead cultural and malleable. I wake most nights for 1-2 hours
Amomani
Ryebread91
Rush lights?
KinetoPlay
It's a type of plant called a rush. They're long and thin. You gather and prepare them, then you can light one end on fire and have a reasonable light source for a while for practically free if you're doing your own collecting. Generally not as good as an oil lamp, but many times cheaper to operate.
OmNachoMama
I read some articles that suggested it was prime nookie time
https://www.sciencealert.com/humans-used-to-sleep-in-two-shifts-maybe-we-should-again
glenlochie
Time to go out and check the livestock - 2 to 4 horses, 3 pigs, 6 to 8 cows, chickens. Then back bed. Repeat at 6 am.
Amomani
It's very well documented in historic records. Furthermore, this is not the only model for bilhasic sleep. Siestas are another common one.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-bipha">p">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-biphasic-sleep
https://www.ancientpages.com/2024/06/10/what-was-the-medieval-two-sleeps-habit/
Their was also a very robust debate about the properties of "night air" in the 18th century and if it was dangerous or healthy.
astrangehop
I can speak to this in practice. Part of it is about not having light!
So—if candles, lamp oil, etc are $$$ you might go to bed at sundown. Northern clines That's a good 12+ hours half the year. Sleeping 12 hours sucks, so you get up and putter. Not like weaving cloth, but stoking the fire, maybe punching down some dough. Just peeing in an outhouse takes 15 minutes in the winter getting your boots on... Then it's thinking time.…
astrangehop
Even subsistence farming or woodcutting requires some planning, and if you're used to it your brain is pretty fresh after a few exact rem cycles then maybe some prayer, or a nice wank and you're ready to bed down again till dawn. If you do hard physical labor too, it helps to move about a bit after a few hours just to get the waste out and nutrients into cramped muscles.
Dreypen
It's generally overstretched and misstated . Think of it more as sleep hygiene attributes . For example you should only be in bed to sleep or make whoopie, is very much how things have been traditionally. Modern day we do other things, and a core step for insomnia is to go back to that older method. The same goes for lights in bed at night. Or if you can't sleep, it's recommended to get up and do a low energy activity like reading shortly than try again.
karajGiraffeMonster
It's definitely been mentioned historically
Amomani
I mean, the name Chandler alone reflects the importance of candles in the past. Museums have so many candle holders they aren't even usually a focus of the collection because they're considered such ordinary objects. Only the unique or significant ones get displayed.
GTimgur
Your time period is very late and short and EXPENSIVE for the common person. And not as convenient or illuminating in any capacity as electric light bulbs.
Amomani
You think all the candles and oil lamps were for fun and pure decoration?
GTimgur
Your time period is very late and short and EXPENSIVE for the common person. And not as convenient or illuminating in any capacity as electric light bulbs.
Amomani
I mean they had candle reflectors, multiple candles, single candles, wall mounted, handheld candles, bedside candles, and all the same in oil lamps.
Amomani
samuelthastings5
Candle salesman over here
Ryebread91
Til a ship is a candle. /S
Amomani
Blame Google wonky ass art search. You get the point I'm trying to make. People didn't just stumble around in darkness prior to electric lighting.