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angryscreechingnoise
the treatment of realism as if it is inherently superior to stylistic choices for the sake of greater expressiveness is stupid.
Futuristicfembot
This post made my night.
nobodygottimeforusernames
You should listen to Nightvale the podcast maybe
Futuristicfembot
I absolutely will!
motherfluffer
Most animation is *for children* and therefor 9/10 times styles are drawn for children to easily identify. And humans are monstrous enough
motherfluffer
to be the uncanny effect we don’t want to see reflected. Like Malificent cursing a baby, kids don’t want to know their sitter could curse
FishSausages
Https://i.imgur.com/pmtaudC.jpg
IvyWilde
Dirgekins
chewybacon
What is this meme style called?
Clarysage
Drawn that way to appeal to children by looking extra cute. Big eyes and pointy chins. Also its just that art style.
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
W/ limited characters; 1: Animations are done in a certain way to convey full emotional experssions of characters, not so much on "artistic"
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
values guided by "moral principles". 2: they've shown you 1 edited photograph to 'justify' their stupidity, try doing that for an entire
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
animated film, where theres cost involved and working in a team where certain criterias needs to be met. 3. We mated w/ them and we're them.
RestlessVagabond
What predator should man fear that has hunted it for centuries? Look in the mirror, yo.
TheGiantTater
Jesus, that was a wild rollercoaster of a fuckin' ride...
TheMademoiselle
nobody really read the uncanny valley Wikipedia article,no? its about acceptance ofhuman-like features in non-humans like MACHINES+animation
PhyshStycc
I didn't know tumblr survived after it stopped being a source for hentai
Seigeengine
It's interesting to me how echo chambery tumblr is, in how well isolated different segments of it are from each other.
SenselessSentiments
How many segments of it are there? (Or do you know exist) I have never ventured into that strange place; I need a guide.
Seigeengine
Who knows? It's just that because of the way tumblr pages link and interrelate, you basically only will see what you already are looking at.
Seigeengine
For example, if you're using tumblr for hentai, all you're likely to see are hentai pages. If you're using it for other porn, only that. If
Seigeengine
you're using it for fanfiction, or some radical nonsense, or whatever else. There isn't really the same injection of other that you see on
CitrusStrongman
It's almost as if cartoons are stylised.
nobodygottimeforusernames
Thanks @op I really dug into that. Check out Nightvale if you haven't yet and you like fantasy and things that are just slightly off
DraccoKnightblade
I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
CalluColorGod
Dafuk was dat shit about someone on tumblr being just an open monster that eats humans inshit and we all like look at dis caveman evidence
MarunAlister256
It's an author's in character blog made for their novel, the books name is "The Creatures Cookbook"
GoliathSkittles
Once again Tumblr just likes to make shit up on the spot and treat it as undeniable facts
observationalist
Talk about misinformation. What a tiresome bunch.
blamesimon
As an animation student, having lectures about the uncanny valley is both entertaining and mildly disturbing
Someshithead241
I enjoy this posts consists of tumblr mocking a certain art style, while everyone immediately knows what you mean when you say "tumblr
Someshithead241
Art style" and what that art is most likely going to be about.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
As a Homo Sapien, I have to say:
nobodygottimeforusernames
P'haps. But are we the winnies? P'haps...
Bambiprsi
Well.... look around the globe. We definitely are.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
Mos def
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Edited Elsa's eye is still as big as her mouth.
Seigeengine
Here eyes are too big still, yes, but... mouths and eyes are about the same size.
DisgruntledFerret
Aside from the journey it went on, I love when awkward people online are just offended by the very concept of cartoonish caricature.
yepthatguy
LokiOnTheCouch
Lmaooooo I had to zoom in
yepthatguy
Can you believe 3 people downvotes that? I mean come on, it's funny! ?
Fistouille
To me realistic animated characters is just not creative enough and doesn't provide enough escapism
GoldFrieza
Do movies with human actors also not provide escapism
nobodygottimeforusernames
I'll weigh in! Yes but it's different. You can go further with animation. Maybe bc you know right off it's fantasy. U use ur imagination mas
The16thSockMonkey
(1/2) Seriously. We have the ability to make animated characters look like whatever we want. Why would you make them look completely normal?
The16thSockMonkey
(2/2) If you want realistic looking characters, don't even bother with animation. Just do live-action at that point
periwinklepanda
THIS!!!
Kraken639
Has anyone ever experienced uncanny valley?
Raikupath
As a CG artist, every day.
electricsillygoose
I don't like the way people look when they have heavy plastic surgery, for me that's like an uncanny valley.
Marick2Die
Especially fake tits. I see them and just get uncomfortable. Like, they're supposed to be this amazing thing but the look so artificial
RickySpanishhhhh
Have you ever seen a mannequin or statue with makeup on it? It triggers some pretty heavy fight/flight reflexes.
5NoteHalf
Mannequin rigged with a motor to turn its head at you. It'll do the trick.
nobodygottimeforusernames
:(
orbitn
Been in some pretty uncanny valleys myself. I'm sure most of us have at one time or another.
nobodygottimeforusernames
I remember being a kid and seeing a withered arm for 1st time, I was disgusted and afraid. Had nightmares
DraccoKnightblade
Look at anyone in Congress.
louise5
Was going to say most hard republicans I know give me the valley feels
xKaraKx
We probably feared human-like features... because of all the other hominid species... not that hard to figure out
louise5
Is the uncanny valley effect partly responsible for racism? Sorry if it’s a dumb question.
nobodygottimeforusernames
Hey don't apologise! That's a good question. I don't have answer but if was betting person would reckon yeah ur prob right
WookieWookieWookie
I don't think so. Uncanny valley is that creepy feeling you get when you see something not quite human, like a really good cgi or some of
WookieWookieWookie
Those advanced robots. I rink the term comes from a graph of our emotional reasons to things as they get more human looking. When you get
WookieWookieWookie
Really close but not quite perfect our response drops rapidly into being creeped out and uncomfortable. I don't think that's what racists
WookieWookieWookie
Feel. I think racism just comes from the fact that humans are extremely tribal by nature and instinctively try to exclude people that are
WookieWookieWookie
From other tribes.
observationalist
No, but it is responsible for the slightly squirmy feeling you get from looking at the mentally handicapped
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
Eh, we mated with the other humans. But the most dangerous biological thing is a dead body, and would trigger uncanny valley.
CyborgScribe
Dead bodies are VERY uncanny to me at least.
Soufange
This is why YEARS LATER I still tweak out when I think about how I probably saw a beheading. Fake is cool. Not fake is... *deep exhale* nope
JackSnare
i prefer this idea rather than imagining actual hominids running around with anime eyes or some other terrifying nonsense.
Samthekiwiman
Is it wrong that I feel nothing when I see a dead body? The other day I went past a car crash and saw a mangled up body of the driver (1)
Samthekiwiman
And I felt nothing. Not even slight disgust. Yet again I don't cry or even feel grief when a family member dies, even if I loved them.
hippiteehoppitee
Lots of reasons for that. Could be autism or psychopathic tendencies.
Samthekiwiman
Huh. I'm not a psychopath (got tested when I was a kid.) could be autism but I don't freak out or panic when people touch me though.
hippiteehoppitee
Depression would fit the bill too and autism has a wide spectrum. I’m not here to diagnose you, just want to consider options
Samthekiwiman
I do love people though. Psychopaths don't love others. Sociopaths do, although it is alot harder for them.
Zeus541
How so? Like, the danger part.
WilliamKeith
Because something killed it and is probably still around.
SenselessSentiments
Decaying flesh in your water supply is bad; or if the source of danger that caused the death is still present, then you *should* be scared.
Zeus541
Oh okay, that makes sense, thank you.
Bambiprsi
But dead human body should not trigger uncanny valley effect. Its about sth looking and/or acting as human, but not quite. 1/2
Bambiprsi
Dead body IS human and its not acting/behaving at all, ergo it should not trigger uncanny valley.
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
I don't know, making love to a corpse just doesn't feel like making love to a living person. I'd call that uncanny.
minqapoc
Yet you look at a corpse and expect it to move any second because it's unsettling to see a dead person. We're used to the living.
Lassannn
You want uncanny valley?!
backoffman
The fact that he can legitimately do that trick with his eyes is truly terrifying
Lassannn
Yeah he freaked out Bill Hader on the set doing it.
InternetExplorer98
What trick?
Mrflabs
I'm not hanging out enough to know that
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
One weird trick that reduces cellulite
backoffman
Doctors hate him!
backoffman
RickySpanishhhhh
I was today years old when I realized that new Pennywise was Roman from Hemlock Grove
yay4me
We probably have the Uncanny Valley effect because not-quite-human beings register as unhealthy to our lizard brain.
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
It's a more general effect which allows us to see past the camouflage of both prey and predators. Not quite right is something hiding
Mophise
Basically, but more like we're all paranoid and anxious, so we sooth ourselves with "normalcy" to the point that things that make us...
Mophise
...reevaluate our subconscious classifications of "normal" and "safe" break out sense of normalcy, and give the terror a crack in the dam.
2cusswords
Which is why deviations from the norm are punished unless they are exploitable. Ask Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
LostInImgur
It isn't even specific to only us humans. Have you ever seen videos of people dressed up as cats, etc. and their pets freaking the fuck out?
nicoleoftheeast
Yah it's more like genetic abnormalities cause shifts in facial features which we evolved to find offputting
watergap
Corpses, etc, yeah. Stay away from people who don’t look quite right. It’s a survival instinct.
watergap
And by “not quite right”, I mean like they’re not moving and animals have made off with bits of them
nobodygottimeforusernames
Thank you for that clarification ☺️
Tarmaccian
This. The Uncanny Valley happens because our brain is really good at being lazy. We jump to a REALLY quick human/nonhuman judgement, and 1/4
Tarmaccian
that judgement makes us comfortable. When a more-complex part of the brain disagrees with that decision, we get uncomfortable, then we 2/4
Tarmaccian
respond in a variety of ways. In scary settings, we panic. In funny settings, we laugh. In neutral settings, we just don't like it. It's 3/4
Tarmaccian
the same mechanism underlying some racism, pareidolia, superstition, and religion… and it's just because our brains work too quickly. 4/4
trojanplatypus
I would disagree solely on the basis of past experience. I've been around a "person" for a few years now, and there's something not right
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
How would we even test the uncanny valley in animals? That claim was bullshit
2000CalToblerone
I was gonna say the Frozen edits looked uncanny, but then you look back at the originals and they also look uncanny lol
Badprenup
The edits only look uncanny because you are used to seeing them a specific way, the same way a relative visiting after a long time looks off
Egudahl
Or as lizard people to humans
trojanplatypus
Unhealthy and dangerous. I know a person who is...off. I can't put my finger on it, but they give me (and others) the creeps. Something
trojanplatypus
about the face is wrong. Like it slips. Not like the skin is loose, but slippery. It's hard to explain.
merelyadequategooglymoogly
How different is different enough? Where does garden-variety xenophobia cross into the Uncanny Valley?
yay4me
I’d say human at first glance but not upon closer inspection?
nobodygottimeforusernames
Right like I won't have a knee jerk reaction to a different ethnicity but definitely to a deformity in any ethnicity
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
That's why it's called a valley
RatFromADifferentSewer
No one going to talk about the cryptid dude?
observationalist
No, because edgy teenagers trolling for attention are boring
MarunAlister256
It's an in-character blog for his novel "The Creatures Cookbook".
HouseoftheRisingWaffle
Someone trying to be edgy/cryptic on tumblr. They most likely listen to the Nightvale podcast.
nobodygottimeforusernames
Yoooo I am so glad you brought this up! I just started listening and I am hooked. I've never heard anything like it before
HouseoftheRisingWaffle
Good for you! It didn't interest me quite enough but if it's enjoyable then go ahead, there's certainly nothing wrong with it.
NobuNagaa
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
I mean, it's not like he commit mass genocide of eight other similar races. He has been refreshingly honest.
ToastedEggSandwich
that's just how tumblr goes sometimes.
twofivefour
Probably a dude in his 20s who wanted to write and got very attached to a super-specific YA novel series alongside general edgy tendencies.
nobodygottimeforusernames
More posts about the Nightvale podcast!!
BlueFlame13
He's either mentally ill or extremely edgy, not much more to talk about. Funny that he claims people protect themselves from reality 1/2
awesomecat42
Could also be a weird promo for the book he mentioned.
MarunAlister256
It is.
BlueFlame13
with fiction, but then builds his entire internet presence around telling himself he's not human. 2/2
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FiveShiftOne
No I mean in spite of what he says it's just performance art. He's playing out the character to engage his fanbase.
JohnCheshirsky
Not to sound like a jackass, but I'm like 80% sure that that's probably a girl, not a dude.
DaveTBull
Forgetting we have neanderthal dna, we fucked them to extinction,
Mophise
Not a bad way to go
iLikeHockey
luxurygayspacecommunism
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is bruised!
ButtmoTerror
USA USA USA
Hashbrown123
Due to the fact rule 34 exists it proves our horniness will overpower uncanny valley almost all the time.
SirSmurfalot
You can bet at least part of the crossbreeding was in the form of captured sex slaves.
cyrusjoneslivedforever
There is also the horrible practice of ethnic genocide via rape that we've seen in some historic genocides
siyuri1641
Know anyone who has an eyebrow shelf to rest their sunglasses on? It's called a cro magnon ridge for a reason
MrControll
We killed the ones we couldn't fuck
SubZeroWithAFever
Daarst
Little bit of both. Pretty sure we killed those we couldn't fuck and vice versa.
jackpkmn
little of column a little of column b
PhyshStycc
I was gonna say, early neanderthals/human derivatives have much evidence suggesting to have mated/mixed into our modern speciation
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
Kill the men, rape the women. Just like all the other invaders since
giganticroboticpenguin
OP's mom fucked them to extinction.
veryirrelevantreplies
Literally or figuratively?
DaveTBull
Yes
LostInImgur
Both.
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
the enemy is always weirdly sexy.
FairyKingOberon
Found Zapp Brannigan
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
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For the sake of the galactic community, its a good thing we have brannigan's law
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
Please state this law.
carnagecosmosqueen
4% myself
RickySpanishhhhh
We fucked them to death. Mr. Garrison would be proud.
flaskfullofcoffee
Prima nocta
merelyadequategooglymoogly
From a genetic standpoint, we kinda Borged them.
ReaperCDN
This. Our species conquers and rapes in conquest. We mix our DNA deliberately to build better humans. We act like the xeno in Alien. No /1
ReaperCDN
Wonder it's so terrifying as a predator. It uses our own tactics against us. 2/2
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This comment reads far more ominously than it should
LittleLumberjack
PuncturedBag
walltastelikedingkeberries
Mr garrison was onto something
76000BatteryLlamas
Snu snu you say
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
SenfinaZeit
Extinction by snu snu
NuclearMonk
Uncanny sex is still sex
tanebot
Uncanny valley meet uncanny geographical penis metaphor.
EvPointMaster
backoffman
*raped, but sure
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backoffman
I was there, Gandalf. 20,000 years ago...
chronologicalvoid
In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened...
backoffman
And you have no way to prove it was consensual!!
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Dude... As someone who's had multiple years of studying animal repro, no, not at all, it's mostly all rape
DaveTBull
Ooooh.... yeah...no.... tell that to a duck
SamanosukeOnimusha
FetchMyBrownPants
More like we played "fuck, marry, kill" over and over, but without the middle bit.
Rosfmmmhzdrozzley
Denisovian as well
RuthlessRuben
Probably a bit of interbreeding, a lot of outperforming, some violence and a tad of climate change. This Tumblr post is a bit over-dramatic.
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What Tumblr post isn't tho?
DarknessfillsmyheartwithpainTIMMAY
Over dramatic in Tumblr? Nooooooooo
aPokal
It's all they have left. You know? Without porn.
axiomatik
Only “some” violence? I think our history suggests a little more than just some.
SugarRay59
If I move into your neighborhood and eat literally all the food you could possibly buy, I probably wouldn't have to kill you.
SugarRay59
Neanderthal was running on a shoestring caloric budget, sapiens showed up, devastated the large game pop, and N. starved.
stankginchfurbuger
Real good at hunting one specific thing (elk, mammoth, what have you). Humans are much better generalists
BitRoyal
Overdramatic plus a lot of nonsense leaps. No other animals experience uncanny valley? Almost no other animals recognize any representation.
RuthlessRuben
True. We can barely measure human cognition, so saying "no other animals experience XYZ" is usually the start of an inaccurate statement.
ParryLost
I've seen funny pet gifs that illustrate dogs and cats experiencing the uncanny valley in the form of toys/cakes right here on Imgur... :P
BitRoyal
Videos of cats and dogs reacting to their owner's excitement while a toy/cake was nearby. /fixed
ParryLost
Well, I was half joking, but in seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if at least some more intelligent dogs and possibly cats were quite →
aninvisiblemaniac
yeah for some reason we found the Neanderthals sexy as well as a threat
nobodygottimeforusernames
Like cats
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
Scaroused is a word for a reason.
ChemicalG
Probably some deep human trait that we just want to fuck anything remotely similiar a la captain kirk or like farmers
tanebot
If we have neanderthal DNA, they're not extinct, they evolved into us.
imabigasstree
Eh, not exactly. All that means is that they're our ancestors. A lot of ancestors of animals are extinct. Also, homo sapiens existed at the/
imabigasstree
Same time, meaning they are a separate, extinct ancestor.
theworldcouldbeflat
Not really only white people tend to have neanderthal DNA, other races have other hominid DNA sometimes, but none of it really changed us
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
Wait, what? I’m genuinely curious about this statement from a scientific perspective. Is that why some Americans appear to have 1/2
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
Almost Vampire-like fangs? Like, I’ve met a few Americans who legitimately had naturally longer canine teeth. 2/2
DaveTBull
I could be wrong but i think i heard Neanderthals could have had a more veggie based diet
theworldcouldbeflat
https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-012-0414-1
theworldcouldbeflat
Don't know about that, however it was believed we evolved from Neanderthal man because most of the DNA being sampled was white 1/2
AdmiralButtStuff
These are fun theories but it's likely that we just fucked them into extinction. A significant portion of modern humans have neanderthal DNA
StaringAtSidewalks
*significant portion of European humans have. Side note; we have determined that we had intercourse with chimps based on pubic lice.
dwilson0725
I have more neanderthal DNA than 63% of 23&me customers; <2%.
SometimesIUseAllOfMyCharactersAtOnceAndDontCareAboutTheConsequ
As indicated by those who voted for trump?
axiomatik
My mom got a 23andme analysis. The results said she has more Neanderthal dna than ~95% of the population.
POTUSBrown
Lol Encino-mom
ComicPi
WHY IS THIS NOT A MOVIE?!
theomni
We could have done both.
Beepity
Combination of that, of violence (from us and from other animals), and from them just plain needing more energy to live than us.
Vilgashem
I thought it was only 1-2 percent and only certain demographics...?
dwilson0725
European, Asian, and indigenous American populations today have between 1-2 percent neanderthal DNA.
Soufange
Unga bunga motherfuckers *drums beating in the distance*
StaringAtSidewalks
Depending on which subset of Asian population there is a different % crossbreeding with other primitive species. Not just Neanderthal.
Wheretheresawill89
Ii think the irish and that region have a lot of it
definitelyarealdoctor
Ok so we fucked the neanderthals. But what about the other 7-8 species? Killed then for sure
kadaeux
Turns out they were actually more Canid or Feline and are the ancestors of furries and otherkin.
mrmayortheiv
Bunch of south asian people have denisovan dna. And some people in the himalayan region have some other hominid dna which helps them live
definitelyarealdoctor
So they fucked yeti to create modern sherpa... i can see it
mrmayortheiv
At the high elevations better than the average human would.
merelyadequategooglymoogly
According to 23andMe, my peeps got pretty freaky with the Neanderthals.
kadaeux
According to the reason used to ban you from the Museum maybe past tense is the wrong one?
BlindGardener
According to Grandpa, my peeps got pretty freaky with the Sheep.
buddhafw
So you're Scottish too?
BlindGardener
Nope, grandpa is Hungarian.
HiddenSanity
Yup, it's why we're mostly right-handed, Lefties and ambidextrous individuals are slightly less neanderthal than the rest of us.
doppelfisch
Really? As a south paw, I find this fascinating.
BlindGardener
I'm ambisinister: I'm really bad with both hands.
AllysiaAiua
Last I knew, most of the research on this had to do with competition, not dna. It's why sports with competition have a higher degree of
AllysiaAiua
left-handed people (upwards of a 50/50 split, compared to the rough 5-10% that normally make up the population), and shorts with low degrees
AllysiaAiua
(sports*) of competition confirm closer to the population average.
psychologisttheologist
The handedness in sports typically has to do with being different from others. Whether baseball or tennis, things look different from a left
POTUSBrown
There's not much consensus. But from what I've read, handness can be affected by position in the womb. Genetics plays only a small role. 1/2
POTUSBrown
Handness is linked to brain hemispheres. Right controls left, Left controls right. I'm cross hand dominant, but I consider myself a lefty.
FirstThingThatCameToMind
I'm righthanded and both my parents are lefties. I'm confused
BlowOnItAndStickItIn
Uh oh
CardboardSea
Recessive genes. Or you're adopted.
KoalasArentReal
Uh oh, someone needs to draw a punnett square
GoIIum
It may mean that your grandparents likely have a different amount of Neanderthal DNA to each other. Also just a statistical likelihood.
Josherman17
I know my brother was told not to write lefty in school even though it was natural. Did the same happen to you?
RenegadeRed
I initially wrote with my left and my kindergarten teacher made me switch. I still use things with my left hand more but write with my right
FirstThingThatCameToMind
nope, also I hear thats really bad for you.
Josherman17
It is bad. My brother started writing lefty again in college and, had no more legibility issues.
Soufange
Knew a girl whose uncle was beaten until his left hand was crippled. He never got past childish scribbling with his right hand.