It isn't a coincidence that the absolute assholes at school end up being the most popular. People go along with the bullying to avoid becoming targets themselves and eventually end up believing it. Same shit.
I comment similar things not infrequently, I either get upvoted or hated. Personally, I just want all politics and gripes about politics off *my* Imgur.
hell, last time we rode this train and we had no way to filter out tags, I advocated for folks to mute people that spammed this subject and got sent to my room by the mods.
I've said it al ot recently, and though I am not proud to think this way, trumps next term has to be so catastrophically bad that it's remembered for generations. People are going to suffer, but then there's 70m+ people that need to see just how bad this type of regime is, and to do that, they need to experience the pain that comes with giving MAGA full control
LOL! You think they're gonna blame Trump? There's always an excuse, and it's never his fault. No one who voted for Trump will ever admit things went to shit because of Trump. Ever.
If it wasnât for all the terrible things he does Elon is fucking hysterically stupid. The whole âIâm dark gothic magaâ line is like a child telling you what his Halloween costume is.
when people hate their lives enough that they hate to see others enjoy their own lives, they enjoy punching down, and there are comics enough who turn punching down into jokes, that these people can feel validated in their misanthropy. It's not funny, but that's not really why their fans are laughing at it
I can't remember who it was, but I was watching a YouTube video talking about Jim Breur and maybe Jimmy Dore. The commentator said that these comedians were looking for applause, not laughter. If you watch a clip of these comedians, you can't unsee it.
I think this is one of the factors that really radicalizes right wing people deeper. They don't have any enjoyable funny late night shows and comedy. Their media is almost all hate based
I don't know like. They do have some hilarious skits here and there. Some of the funniest jokes come at the expense of the left (whom I am a supporter of).
If you can't laugh at yourself, what's the fucking point?
Humor is humor. I'm not talking about insults and bullying being PORTRAYED as humor. I'm talking about actual comedians taking the piss out of our (sometimes ridiculous) stand on a number of heated topics.
I'm all for good comedy and definitely don't take myself too seriously. I'd love it if you could share some examples of good right-wing comedians using humor to poke fun at the left.
If a comedian made their political standpoint known they wouldn't be very good comedians. Any that are opening left or right are almost guaranteed to suck.
Bill Burr is a funny comedian. He pokes fun at the extremes of the left along with the majority of the right. His politics are definitely left-leaning.
Gervais hasn't been funny for like 8 years and half his jokes now are just about hating trans people (decidedly a right-wing pasttime).
I don't understand why Trans jokes are off limits? Comedy is Comedy. It is an art form. When I was young it was dead baby jokes, then HIV jokes, black jokes, gay jokes. I am Italian, I grew up on Italian and Polish jokes. Look at Anthony Jeselnik his dark humor includes a lot of pedophilia- and if you have a sense of humor it's funny. Lossen up Francis.
I'll remind everybody that at the time only wealthy white (mostly) educated property owning men could vote and Congress chose the president. So... Thomas Jefferson also wrote extensively on the tyrant of the majority and that democracy, if opened to everyone, would devolve into ignorant mob rule
Well... The current Republican party is made up of two distinct factions; the capitalist top 5% who own most property and businesses thru stocks and bonds and banks and only care about lowering taxes and regulations on themselves, and the uneducated masses that care about organized conservative religion and dislike immigrants and Brown people. Educated white middle class men that own small amounts of property and business interests are surprisingly progressive on social issues and even taxes 1/2
Trumps voters are not intelligent or mature enough to understand buyers remorse, or the concept of self awareness. So the entire concept of this meme is imaginary to begin with. Stop pretending theyâre human. They arenât.
yup exactly. I've tried to reach out and discuss topics with them. There is no discussion. They genuinely believe America would be better off under Trump the fascist. They also don't learn from or understand history. The brainwashing is so embedded I might as well be talking to a parrot. It's sad. I'm also furious because these fuckers are ruining the lives of actual, good people.
It's extremely important to remember that these are people. It is people that do monstrous things. They are not inhuman. They are regular people have this in their heart.
Look at Germany in the 40s. They believed in Hitler- so did Americans. Henry Ford was a big Hitler supporter. Hitler showed his true colors and the MAJORITY of the people saw the light. Their were still faithful Nazis because some people actually believe in that shit. We need to watch what is being taught from the pulpits. They are pulling the strings now.
Bruh, stupid I will entirely agree with but not human? Aside from being deliberately dehumanizing, it's also hilariously wrong. Humans are ALL ABOUT being dumb, panicky animals. We excel at it.
Ah so you agree with their belief that non human people and sub human people exist, and have moved the arguement to deciding what group of people are sub human filth that should be removed. Do you now see why we shouldnt be calling them non human? you undermine your own ethics. Calling them out by their own actions and stances is enough.
While I fundamentally agree with the point you're making, there's a big of difference between the belief in sub-humans as a demographic and the belief that a human can lose their humanity through action. The very concept of a legal system (if not justice itself) is based on the notion that society can restrict freedoms/undermine human rights (punish) to those who violate the humanity of others (do crime). OP is radical, but doesn't undermine any ethics if they sees trump votes as criminal.
I get it but I would raise the point that still raises the question of what action makes someone sub-human? we would probably agree that being a bigot but it still changes the dialogue, they would then argue transitioning makes you lose humanity. it also makes it harder for people to deradicalise or even realise they are in a cult, we all imagine we could spot a radical but its harder when its geoff your mate who lent you his mower. you know hes human so the people calling him trash are wrong.
To be clear what these people are doing is vile, But a portion of these people arnt "evil" nor do they consider themselves evil. they are hurt, lashing out, literally manipulated into thinking this man will help them. they are bombarded with propaganda literally 24/7, I have heard 1000s of stories of people parents and friends who were good people but got sucked in. hell I almost did, I noticed. It is a machine built to drag people to that creed. Calling them sub human gives them no way out.
excellent points all around. I personally think the neglect ones place in a social environment is inherently a self-dehumanizing act because it is to the detriment of another's. I don't think it's binary and immediately switches you to "non-human" nor do I think it's permanent. Dehumanization is a state one assumes in a moment that judgment only applies to these moments. In this, it is the failure to acknowledge one's faults that makes them "less human." Ie: because humans are capable of 1/2
I really think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average Trump voter. Also, an insight from bitter experience: Trump voters want those things to happen, they just don't want those things to happen to them. And when they do happen to them, they blame Democrats. Because the difference between Trump supporters and a bucket of shit is the bucket.
But it IS going to happen to them. THAT will be their awakening. Granted, not all of them have a conscience. When those tarrifs start hitting their pockets, when the mass deportations start causing them food insecurities- you are going to see a mass burning of red hats.
They're not going to wake up. Trumpers are stupid, and they've made a huge investment in their ignorance. They will do ANYTHING to avoid having to admit that they were/are wrong
HurkWurk
Brodo's got what plants crave!
dixxienormus
You will get you anus reamed out because you voted to have your anus reamed out without any hope of lube.
ElbowDeepInAGoblin
This scene lives in my head rent-free because the actual dialogue is about flan and Angelica calls it "yucky" and BIIIIIIIIITCH...
Vamp13
bold of you to assume the chimpanzees closest relative isnt down for some tyranny.
TI99Kitty
BurnieCinders
Woo, US politics.
alcamar
That was their "research". That should effectively dismiss the personal blame once they get to the acceptance part of the stages of grief
somnif
My research was (lived through 2016 to 2020). First thing he did in office was kill my paycheck (epa grant). That was... fun.
vissago
snowinmyboots
Popularity contest.
Digitalwolf
I need a better pixelly version.
SamuthNBS
It isn't a coincidence that the absolute assholes at school end up being the most popular. People go along with the bullying to avoid becoming targets themselves and eventually end up believing it. Same shit.
RexRexroththe1st
OnlyPositiveFavourites
Would you be so kind as to tag your posts? đ
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Just days ago this was a sure way to put a comment into Earth's mantle. There were even calls to -not- tag political posts.
OnlyPositiveFavourites
I comment similar things not infrequently, I either get upvoted or hated. Personally, I just want all politics and gripes about politics off *my* Imgur.
mixiekins
hell, last time we rode this train and we had no way to filter out tags, I advocated for folks to mute people that spammed this subject and got sent to my room by the mods.
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CorvidPrime
Do you know for certain that they live in the US or a country effected by our politics?
OnlyPositiveFavourites
Hm what did they say? they deleted the comment
CorvidPrime
Something along the lines of âArrogant if you to assume youâll come out unscathed by his policiesâŚâ Not an exact quote, but the gist is there.
OnlyPositiveFavourites
Wow they really look a lot from a simple request for tags eh
SubiBryant
Still out here doing this huh? Good on ya.
jewbacca001
Gonna be doing this for the next four years. Buckle up
zanaria
You hope for just 4 years...
garfieldstwin
I've said it al ot recently, and though I am not proud to think this way, trumps next term has to be so catastrophically bad that it's remembered for generations. People are going to suffer, but then there's 70m+ people that need to see just how bad this type of regime is, and to do that, they need to experience the pain that comes with giving MAGA full control
Syxcfaq
LOL! You think they're gonna blame Trump? There's always an excuse, and it's never his fault. No one who voted for Trump will ever admit things went to shit because of Trump. Ever.
sarahrienzi33
Agree
lightfoot2
We'll learn.
zanaria
Nah, you wont get the chance. Enjoy being part of russia...
JamesTDG
I learned pretty fucking quickly after covid happened
lightfoot2
Hell I learned before COVID. That's why I had P100 respirators.
FoxPesdassi
THEY fucked around, but now we ALL have to find out.
squigglebaketerraform
If we havent learned by now...
captainfakeypants
Evidence proves you do not learn fast enough for it to matter.
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
That seems unlikely.
Last century was called âthe American centuryâ but Americans seem to prefer letting someone else take charge.
skwint
If I've learnt just 1 thing from history, it's that you won't.
Frederf
Will I haven't thus proving your point that I disagree with. Chessmate.
lightfoot2
Some will. Some will not.
MoonRiverFrost
It's a group project, and if one person doesn't learn from it, all of us are doomed to repeat it.
ontarioOT
Funniest?
I call bullshit as right-wing comedians are terribly unfunny.
algoritham
Bullying trans and gay people is 'funny' to the right-wing.
Strategicgnomer
No no, they think cruelty is hilarious. Stark, blatant cruelty and lack of empathy, picking on the weakest and most vulnerable, that's Trump's comedy.
IWasACatAllAlong
Right wing comedy is just confident bullying.
AndroidSoul
Its easier to be the funniest politician than the funniest comedian, since traditionally it was hard to get elected if you were a painted clown
TheMightyMollusk
Not any more it ain't.
Zeddicuszull
Conservatives are unintentionally funny and extremely so.
SavageDrums
Yeah, but they're mean and stupid people don't know the difference
anonymouschameleon8
They laugh at jokes that are meant to degrade groups they don't like openly. Which is every group other than them (ahem- cisgender-white-straight).
Dustorm
If it wasnât for all the terrible things he does Elon is fucking hysterically stupid. The whole âIâm dark gothic magaâ line is like a child telling you what his Halloween costume is.
RevolutionOnHerLips
when people hate their lives enough that they hate to see others enjoy their own lives, they enjoy punching down, and there are comics enough who turn punching down into jokes, that these people can feel validated in their misanthropy. It's not funny, but that's not really why their fans are laughing at it
ontarioOT
I can't remember who it was, but I was watching a YouTube video talking about Jim Breur and maybe Jimmy Dore. The commentator said that these comedians were looking for applause, not laughter. If you watch a clip of these comedians, you can't unsee it.
LordOfAllImgur
Have you seen Jim Breuer lately? Oof.
TheCobb1
Yea but it makes the right people laugh.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
He's not funny. He doesn't joke, he just mocks, insults, and belittles. And he sure as hell can't take a joke.
darthnerdus6236
How many jokes can you really make about hating your spouse? Conservative comedy just isn't sustainable.
Sensiblyinteresting
I think this is one of the factors that really radicalizes right wing people deeper. They don't have any enjoyable funny late night shows and comedy. Their media is almost all hate based
astrangehop
It is now. They used to have stuff like KOTH.
glanceaway
King of the Hill is not right wing. It satitirizes that aspect of American culture.
squigglebaketerraform
Their existance is almost all hate based
Doopapotamus
They're funny to the people who were already assholes but didn't admit it to themselves.
litelbrown
If Trump wasn't an existential threat, the stuff he does would be hilarious. Not intentionally and we wouldn't be laughing with him, but hilarious
blwoodcock
Tr45son is nothing but clown shoes stomping around the nuclear button.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
You don't like The One Joke To Rule Them All And In The Bigotry Bind Them?
ontarioOT
The "LGBTQ double-minus, apostrophe, tilde" joke that Ben Shapiro has been letting rip for 12 years? Yeah...
depoetics
Careful, you draw its attention here. I can hear the echoes of it already. "I identify as a..."
HolyShitDudeCalmDown
I don't know like. They do have some hilarious skits here and there. Some of the funniest jokes come at the expense of the left (whom I am a supporter of).
If you can't laugh at yourself, what's the fucking point?
Humor is humor. I'm not talking about insults and bullying being PORTRAYED as humor. I'm talking about actual comedians taking the piss out of our (sometimes ridiculous) stand on a number of heated topics.
Stop taking yourself so seriously.
HolyShitDudeCalmDown
Haha, I just imagine someone reading "stop taking yourself so seriously" and instantly being like
HolyShitDudeCalmDown
Enjoy your joyless life you sad bastard.
ontarioOT
I mean, thanks? But I'm not the one posting multiple replies to myself here, my dude.
ontarioOT
I'm all for good comedy and definitely don't take myself too seriously. I'd love it if you could share some examples of good right-wing comedians using humor to poke fun at the left.
HolyShitDudeCalmDown
If a comedian made their political standpoint known they wouldn't be very good comedians. Any that are opening left or right are almost guaranteed to suck.
Ricky Garvais and Jimmy Carr spring to mind.
sarahrienzi33
I think Ricky Gervais is funny
ontarioOT
Bill Burr is a funny comedian. He pokes fun at the extremes of the left along with the majority of the right. His politics are definitely left-leaning.
Gervais hasn't been funny for like 8 years and half his jokes now are just about hating trans people (decidedly a right-wing pasttime).
sarahrienzi33
I don't understand why Trans jokes are off limits?
Comedy is Comedy. It is an art form. When I was young it was dead baby jokes, then HIV jokes, black jokes, gay jokes. I am Italian, I grew up on Italian and Polish jokes.
Look at Anthony Jeselnik his dark humor includes a lot of pedophilia- and if you have a sense of humor it's funny.
Lossen up Francis.
coach365
"the people are safe depositories of their own liberty, and ... are not safe unless enlightened..."
- Thomas Jefferson
Ginoawesomesauce
I'll remind everybody that at the time only wealthy white (mostly) educated property owning men could vote and Congress chose the president. So... Thomas Jefferson also wrote extensively on the tyrant of the majority and that democracy, if opened to everyone, would devolve into ignorant mob rule
CheetoDustedMalcontent
How do wealthy property owning white men lean politically today?
sarahrienzi33
Is that a rhetorical question? Seems obvious
Ginoawesomesauce
Well... The current Republican party is made up of two distinct factions; the capitalist top 5% who own most property and businesses thru stocks and bonds and banks and only care about lowering taxes and regulations on themselves, and the uneducated masses that care about organized conservative religion and dislike immigrants and Brown people. Educated white middle class men that own small amounts of property and business interests are surprisingly progressive on social issues and even taxes 1/2
Grenateh
Trumps voters are not intelligent or mature enough to understand buyers remorse, or the concept of self awareness. So the entire concept of this meme is imaginary to begin with. Stop pretending theyâre human. They arenât.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Dehumanizing those who do awful things is a cop-out from the unsavory parts of humanness. Hitler and Charles Manson were human.
HeresYourSauce
They are. Like it or not they're people too, and dehumanizing them like this is wrong, and won't stop them.
Syxcfaq
You spelled fascist wrong.
AchDuLieber
They are barely sentient assholes who have killed off our Democracy with their fucking ignorance and laziness. Fuck them and their existence.
onlymostofthetime
yup exactly. I've tried to reach out and discuss topics with them. There is no discussion. They genuinely believe America would be better off under Trump the fascist. They also don't learn from or understand history. The brainwashing is so embedded I might as well be talking to a parrot. It's sad. I'm also furious because these fuckers are ruining the lives of actual, good people.
MagusoftheMoon
It's extremely important to remember that these are people.
It is people that do monstrous things. They are not inhuman. They are regular people have this in their heart.
sarahrienzi33
Look at Germany in the 40s. They believed in Hitler- so did Americans. Henry Ford was a big Hitler supporter.
Hitler showed his true colors and the MAJORITY of the people saw the light. Their were still faithful Nazis because some people actually believe in that shit.
We need to watch what is being taught from the pulpits. They are pulling the strings now.
wodensday
Syxcfaq
Nazis aren't "political opponents". They're Nazis. And no, I don't have to be nice to Nazis.
wodensday
If they are not your opponents, they are your allies. Itâs up to you to pick, but I wouldnât go that way.
Isnât language fun?
squigglebaketerraform
"political opponents" is an excellent way of whitewashing "fascists"
GadenKerensky
Fascists are still human. Shitty, terrible humans, but still humans. Remembering that helps with combatting them, hard as it is.
HeresYourSauce
It doesn't whitewash them. The fascists are our political opponents, and humanity is well capable of fascism.
wodensday
Who are still human beings. Which makes them more dangerous.
BluePaladin42
Bruh, stupid I will entirely agree with but not human? Aside from being deliberately dehumanizing, it's also hilariously wrong. Humans are ALL ABOUT being dumb, panicky animals. We excel at it.
pandemicpolemic
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BluePaladin42
Abso-frighten-lately. It was an absolute banger of a line
BluePaladin42
Autocorrect why do you keep betraying me today
elbowdeepinastupidsexycentaur
Ah so you agree with their belief that non human people and sub human people exist, and have moved the arguement to deciding what group of people are sub human filth that should be removed. Do you now see why we shouldnt be calling them non human? you undermine your own ethics. Calling them out by their own actions and stances is enough.
RufusPimperton
While I fundamentally agree with the point you're making, there's a big of difference between the belief in sub-humans as a demographic and the belief that a human can lose their humanity through action. The very concept of a legal system (if not justice itself) is based on the notion that society can restrict freedoms/undermine human rights (punish) to those who violate the humanity of others (do crime). OP is radical, but doesn't undermine any ethics if they sees trump votes as criminal.
elbowdeepinastupidsexycentaur
I get it but I would raise the point that still raises the question of what action makes someone sub-human? we would probably agree that being a bigot but it still changes the dialogue, they would then argue transitioning makes you lose humanity. it also makes it harder for people to deradicalise or even realise they are in a cult, we all imagine we could spot a radical but its harder when its geoff your mate who lent you his mower. you know hes human so the people calling him trash are wrong.
elbowdeepinastupidsexycentaur
To be clear what these people are doing is vile, But a portion of these people arnt "evil" nor do they consider themselves evil. they are hurt, lashing out, literally manipulated into thinking this man will help them. they are bombarded with propaganda literally 24/7, I have heard 1000s of stories of people parents and friends who were good people but got sucked in. hell I almost did, I noticed. It is a machine built to drag people to that creed. Calling them sub human gives them no way out.
RufusPimperton
excellent points all around. I personally think the neglect ones place in a social environment is inherently a self-dehumanizing act because it is to the detriment of another's. I don't think it's binary and immediately switches you to "non-human" nor do I think it's permanent. Dehumanization is a state one assumes in a moment that judgment only applies to these moments. In this, it is the failure to acknowledge one's faults that makes them "less human." Ie: because humans are capable of 1/2
Kbantar
Villains are made, not born.
BlackHoleSon01
I really think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average Trump voter.
Also, an insight from bitter experience: Trump voters want those things to happen, they just don't want those things to happen to them. And when they do happen to them, they blame Democrats.
Because the difference between Trump supporters and a bucket of shit is the bucket.
sarahrienzi33
But it IS going to happen to them.
THAT will be their awakening. Granted, not all of them have a conscience.
When those tarrifs start hitting their pockets, when the mass deportations start causing them food insecurities- you are going to see a mass burning of red hats.
BlackHoleSon01
They're not going to wake up. Trumpers are stupid, and they've made a huge investment in their ignorance. They will do ANYTHING to avoid having to admit that they were/are wrong
thereitis101
This is a dumb take and exactly what causes the left wing to push away those that may come over. How about the 15 million Dems that sat out again?
Zeddicuszull
Those 15 million were also colossally stupid.