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For anyone who has the stomach to read the full statement from Bono and U2:
https://www.u2.com/news/title/on-gaza/
SquirrelBrisket
Bono has grown to over 80 courics in weight and is almost six feet tall
quietwalker
Why would you think someone who's good at singing in the 80's and 90's is a relevant political or moral or ethical source, just because they're a celebrity?
BoboTheIceMan
This just in Bono and U2 say Bloody Sunday in January of '72 was just a misunderstanding and Britain was just peace keeping. Anything you might have gathered to yhe contrary from their Sunday, Bloody Sunday track is an error on your part. This ends the announcement.
anosebyanyothername
I would question the sanity of anyone who did not think that Israel's response to the Oct 7 attack was disproportionate in the extreme and I would go on to say that it seems obvious, IMHO, that they knew the attack would happen, they had already planned their response (in the lies about beheadings etc) and planned to escalate far beyond the level Hamas was ready for. The war crime that was the pager bombs is testament to this. That said, the idea that Hamas are saints is ridiculous. 1/2
anosebyanyothername
2/2 Bono manages to mention himself, the band various other excruciating details through his article; here is a man assured of his place in the World and it is clear that nobody has gainsaid Bono for an appreciable period of time. HOWEVER the entire article does not read as badly as reported by these sensationalists and it is reasonable to posit that Bono has access to information from people on the ground that helped shape his words. I don't like what he wrote but this opprobrium is unfounded.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
You are 100% correct. This is not the pro-Israel piece that people are making it out to be.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
I'm curious why "Israel's right to exist " is highlighted ?
Do they question Israel's right to exist then?
That seems to be what they mean.
Unreasonable positions are the problem.
wadeye
Israel has existed since 1948. They will always exist. Palestine on the other hand does not currently exist. Israel goes on and on (and on) about their right to exist, while denying the Palestinians the right to exist.
Israel is starving 2 million Gazans to death, yet Bono and his ilk go on about Hamas ‘using starvation as a weapon’, but not Israel.
2,000,000 Arabs are being starved to death - but let’s make it all about the 20 Israelis who are receiving the same rations as their captors.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
"Israel is starving 2 million Gazans to death, yet Bono and his ilk go on about Hamas ‘using starvation as a weapon’, but not Israel. " You are selectively quoting the article, and you are unequivocally wrong.
Yes, Bono mentions that Hamas is using starvation as a weapon. The very next line, he says that Israel is as well, and he feels revulsion at the moral failure.
There is nothing in this piece by Bono that suggests Bono is being one-sided.
Hexrowe
If you asked me - which you didn't, but here we go; sorry in advance - I'd say no country has an inherent "right" to exist. Countries are abstract entities, made up for our convenience. PEOPLE have rights; countries, corporations etc. do not, except inasmuch as it's necessary to uphold people's rights, and if the existence of a country destroys people's rights and lives more than it safeguards them, then it probably SHOULDN'T exist.
(Disclaimer: it's pre-coffee, I may be talking out my ass.)
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Because everyone who has been kid-gloving Israel while ranting about Hamas yammers on about "Israel's right to exist", but none of them -ever- pay any service to "Palestine's right to exist". You know, the people who have lived there without interruption since antiquity, and who welcomed the Jews back with open arms.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
You did read the rest of the sentence right?
It went something like "in a two state solution "
I'm not sure if you can say U2 wasn't paying service to Palestine's right to exist can you?
That is literally why I ask the question what exactly do they mean by that highlighting those words in that sentence.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Did you read the entire rest of the piece? My point is, note, he didn't say "both nations have the right to exist". He's basically saying it's either only Israel, or maybe a 2 state solution, if that's the only thing that keeps Hamas from forcing Israel to make him sad by committing more crimes against humanity.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
I need you to explain to me what "a two state solution" means to you then.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
I need you to understand that he is throwing that in there as a last-ditch option. He doesn't -want- Palestine to exist. He wants Israel to exist. You can see in this he has never before entertained the idea of "2 states". But because Hamas has been so mean to his beloved Israel, and Israel has resorted to brazen atrocities in front of the world, now he wonders if a 2 state solution might be the only way to safeguard Israel's "right to exist".