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CrestoftheStars
"fewer rights than a corpse".....completely true
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
I pointed out this outrage on FB once and caught a suspension for "misogyny"
pilomotor
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IJustWantToMakeAComment
Only fewer rights than a male corpse. There was that woman who was brain dead but kept alive since she was pregnant despite her family’s desperate please to let her pass.
pilomotor
Yep, it's illegal to harvest life-saving organs from a fresh corpse unless the person gave explicit consent when they were alive. You can't even be forced to donate blood, even when somebody is 100% going to die if you don't. There's no logical reason for an unborn fetus to have such a priority over people who have already been born.
Fn0rd
Of course there is a reason: control. As if the “no abortion” rule is for everyone. It’s to create more children in poverty that can be exploited into military (if they want to go to college), or in what we called “essential jobs” in the pandemic. The Upper class can only exist if there is a bigger lower class that can be exploited. No ultra rich will serve food or clean toilets. There’s staff or services for that. But those people need to exist. What better way to force women to bear children.
Vroomvroomba
Real question, am I the only one that thinks birth rates should fall? That maybe our efforts need to be turned toward creating solutions to the problems that arise from a declining population? Instead it seems that we're going to just double down on the one thing that all societies ills can be directly attributed to. Overpopulation.
wannasee
Its so bad that not even white women want children - and those are the babies they want the most. The white babies are most succulent for eating...and raping.
White women - might be time to start considering the 4 B movement and keep ya legs closed..your men are the most dangerous, even to you!!!
ElectricChairJ
Been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding.
DeadWhiteMale
Low birth rates are good for everything except possibly the economy in the short run. Low birth rates are good for the economy in the long run..
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
Homelessness, mentally ill, crime rates, people not working or wanting to work, people not buying homes, getting married, or having families? It's all because of government policies. For giving the rich and powerful all the opportunities meant for the rest of us. Policies that enable the rich people or entities to commit crimes harmful to consumers with minuscule fines or none at all. Polices that keep any competition in the dark or have their work stolen. Fuck the US government, head to toe.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
From figure 2 at https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr74/nvsr74-1.pdf (page 4), the biggest change is a dramatic (~75%) drop in the rate for 15-19 year olds, which generally seems like a good thing. Ages 35-44 are doing their best to offset it.
nefroye
They're the same demographic though, just offset in time. Bottom line is:
- we are having kids later in life
- we are having less kids
FatBastardVegetarian
To be fair, my kids didn't want to bring one into Biden's America either. Or this planet, for that matter.
pilomotor
Biden's America existed after Trump had already botched the COVID response.
FatBastardVegetarian
Just sayin' this isn't new. This trend goes back at least 25 years. My kids decided "Nope!". I don't blame them.
evildadunit
daycare costs an average of $30/yr in Seattle. Both peasant parents are full-time employees for groceries and rent. But hell yeah! I'll knock her up for a $5k onetime payment
evildadunit
yes my fat thumbs missed the f'n k
OhMyYoureSexxy
$30/year you say? That’s the bargain of a lifetime
OhNooNotAgain
They meant $30k/yr, and that would be a bargain here from what I've seen..
Yakcakesfoodies
I think that might have been a 30K per year not to be confused with 40K lol.
Jimmytheeel
It's not just trump. I've been hear "i just cant see bringing a child into this world" since at least 2000
AuthGaeuvyen
fun fact: as a country modernizes and life expectancy rises and quality of life improves and they're industrialized the lower the birth rate. Because we don't need to have 20 kids because 12 will die before their 1st birthday and 4 won't make it to adulthood and then you needed as many hands to work a homestead
3Davideo
Besides, a declining birth rate just isn't the problem so many people claim it is.
DirectorFury
Under capitalism it's a massive problem for everyone, even the working class
Ducktheman2
*REPUBLICANS* America.
Good grief y'all, the president (their mascot) is one guy. He's a fucking idiot and he's one sad lil guy. Please start holding the correct party accountable. Only naming the president lets a lot of evil people off the hook.
Name the party. Not just their mascot. In fact, maybe get out of the habit of saying their mascot's name at all.
Republicans did this to us. The Republican Regime. Name them all.
LinkWieldsTheTriforceOfCourage
He's not just one guy, he's 74 million assholes in a trenchcoat, he's a walking dictatorship with or without McConnell and Johnson's help.
ImKindaDone
And the people who allowed them to stay in power..
PapaJoeNH
The Reich Wing
gearsmith
Let's be honest here, while Trump is -a- cause, it is not the main cause.
You want to know why the birth rates have dropped? Look at the fiscal burden that just one child puts on a family. In the past a child were more of a boon than a bane, they were more hands to work the fields, another source of income. Now they are a decades long obligation with no relief or assistance from the government.
I love that we treasure kids now, but the drop makes sense.
LydiaLPineault
So true!
kilgoth1
Its not even trumps america. Life as a whole is more expensive and more mentally taxing.
TheDaharMaster
You’d think it would increasing with all the traffic all day now.
astronomypictures
Birthrates are dropping worldwide and have been for years, nothing to do with Trump
VitaminJay
Wages stagnant, inflation runaway, maximized profits for a few entitled assholes, healthcare non existent, basic needs no longer met.
Yeah, no shit people aren't having kids.
deadman320
Its almost like when people can't even keep a roof over their heads, they dont have kids. That fact also explains the push for "pro-life" because it forces childbirth regardless of ability to provide. If they really cared about mothers and kids, the support wouldn't end the second the child is born
CaptainHyperbole
Its the opposite of satisfying to learn that the “pro-life-rs” that they literally just want to harm women and are making the world as bad as possible for these babies they’re forcing women to carry. For so long I hoped that when enough evidence was widely available that it was never about “life”it’s just about harming people they hate.
idiotsonfire
That's why the term "forced birthers" came about. They don't give a shit about making a better world for people to live in.
prowlerintheyard
I can barely afford to care for myself. I can't afford to have a child even if I wanted to
rchcopper
Donald Trump - never has one man put so many people off so much sex in the history of human kind...
LinkWieldsTheTriforceOfCourage
There's lots of Popes he'd lose that fight to, also the Chinese Premier who enacted the "one child" rule.
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originalhuman
Not turned off sex. Turned off being exploited to be baby making machines
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ExplodingPortaPotty
CrabbyBlueberry
Eugenicist bullshit
ExplodingPortaPotty
I never got that argument. To me the movie strikes more at culture than genetics when it comes to how Mankind "Became stupider at a frightening rate". If a culture shuns/debases intelligence then it will negatively impact academic pursuit regardless of race/genetics.
CrabbyBlueberry
people are outbreeding us people. Soon they will outnumber us!
ExplodingPortaPotty
More like "Intelligence and Academia is under attack and if it continues no one is going to want to be educated for fear of ostracization". It has nothing to do with breeding and everything to do with demonizing education and higher learning.
TheKoolEagle
I literally got a vasectomy because the entire world is going to shit.
Rogahar
I use the tried and tested method of only ever banging other dudes, but I recognize thats not everyone's idea of a solution.
ImKindaDone
The only part of sex with men i have a problem with is men. LOL
ObiWanKenobitch
I’m 37 and a woman and I got my tubes tied this year to ensure there’s no chance I get pregnant (birth control even done absolutely correctly is not infallible) because on top of the fact that I just don’t want to have a child, I have epilepsy and the chances of a defect or issue with the fetus are higher for me due to medications and even then I could still be denied the option to choose to end the pregnancy. The world’s fucked and I’m not being a child into this.
babayaghanoush
Got my tubes removed when they repealed Roe, but the surgical nurse tried to talk me out of it the entire prep time before surgery
TheKoolEagle
It’s gross, like bodily autonomy means we can make decisions. If we want to be sterile let us be fucking sterile! You aren’t any more of an adult than we are so fuck!
ObiWanKenobitch
I got my tubes removed early this year. Because of roe and trump winning and the fact that I’m older (37) so it would already be tougher being pregnant and I’m not looking for a huge life change at this stage. I also have epilepsy so the meds could cause a defect even if I did everything right and birth control still failed. Not having the option to end an unwanted pregnancy is something I never thought I’d possibly face so I made sure I never would. Tubal ligation was the only way.
MikeRInternetTraveler
We had one kid and stopped there. I still feel guilty about it.
enderite
I’m with you there.
TheKoolEagle
Literally I remember holding my less than 1 year old daughter telling her soon there was going to be the first woman president of the United States… I still had another child after that too because their mom wanted more kids. Then she left me so yeah, not going down that path again.
MoonBoots92
Why guilty?
MikeRInternetTraveler
Because the world has turned into shit, and it gets worse every single year. We can try and insulate that as much as possible, but my kid is going to have to deal with it. It doesn’t seem fair to her.
MoonBoots92
Ohhhhh guilty that she has to face the world, not guilty that you didnt havr a 2nd one. Got it.
MikeRInternetTraveler
Right right.
putzd63304
I tried. It didn't work :/
TheBigBadBonerBiter
I heard it just changes the skin color of the kid.
Jokes aside, that sucks.
stoots24
Well, doesn't their side preach abstinence?
HowlingRollercoaster2
Sure but they know people don't actually do abstinence. Everyone knows
TheKoolEagle
Rules for thee not for me is actually what they preach 😂
Affray
A buddy's brother made it through a vasectomy, birth control, and a condom. It happens.
crazyspelling
Just out of curiosity, how generous is the buddy's brother's uncle around Christmas time?
Affray
Oh they did a gene test just to be sure everything was on the level. The kid just wanted to live I guess.
bertchstudio
It's usually a small fuckup
Like the birth control went off in the heat of the car and someone got cum on their hand
Treating people like they come here from somewhere else, when all of us are just apes with weird memories
Is starting to piss me off
Like I no longer care if it gives y'all comfort it's fucked up and kids don't need the confusion anymore
Not after Gaza
YetiSpagettee
My 32 to, 6'4, athletic husband was denied a vasectomy FOUR times before we finally found a doctor that would okay the surgery. They kept trying to ask us to make more kids, we are so healthy and would have a great larger family, consider the consequences, we are so young, blah blah, what if something happens to the one you have now (first of all it would be devastating and we could never replace him??), and also the whole point is we don't want any more. I live in a very red area btw. Livid.
ilovetraveler
Love how those same people won't say "consider the consequences" to people about buying assault weapons.
Frostedjakes
I recently had mine done earlier this year in Colorado. I called a urology center (no referral needed) and they asked if I was absolutely sure and understood it is considered permanent and that was it. Made an appointment during the same phone call. Crazy how different the experience can be.
ObiWanKenobitch
I had my tubes tied (in Arkansas no less) this year. I’m 37, no kids, not married and I looked at some reviews from a place in my town (not a very big town either) and I made an appointment, talked to the doc, he made sure to emphasize it would be permanent and he said ok, we’ll get you on the schedule. I honestly expected to have to fight for it but he was super chill and understood it was my choice. He never did a guilt trip on not having kids or implied I could regret it. Great doc.
thricebakedxyz
Wow
TheKoolEagle
It’s wild. There is some animal mentality in people where it’s like yep gotta keep making babies. If something happens to one of my kids, that will be something I will carry forever anyways, another kid isn’t going to fix that.
My mom objected to me getting a vasectomy because she was like what if you want to start another family? I don’t. I have my kids. I love them. More kids is not in the picture for me and any future partner I have will have to be cool with that.
bleggs
I'm surprised the CDC isn't being forced to fake its data yet like the Soviet census.
amp99
I've also read it can cost tens of thousands of dollars for a delivery with no complications in the US, which is a genuinely disgusting amount of money.
peppymints
Yep. And previously something like half of all births were covered by Medicaid.
Psychobeanz
I went in for a natural vaginal birth and came out five days later after an emergency c-section. We would have paid about 60k for my hospital stay and delivery before insurance kicked in. Was still about 4k out of pocket, and I had good insurance. It's not realistic or affordable for most young couples to have kids anymore.
pyroshen
In Canada, the parking costs more than the delivery fees.
Rhythmaster
The republicans' forced birth agenda is even worse when you consider the hospital costs for these forced births... like, what the fuck, you're gonna force women to give birth against their will to unwanted children and also, that'll be 30 grand JUST for the delivery??? This is some truly dystopian shit. Poor people that get pregnant are unlikely to have both insurance AND an extra 4000 dollars on hand.
UniquenessReviewed
Thankfully we have millions of working age immigrants to make up the difference... wait
zeviazucks
Additionally, undocumented immigrants make up like 7% of the US birth rate. If you successfully deported them all, you'd have 225,000 to 250,000 less births per year.
There's also 122 million forcibly displaced people worldwide, including at least 6.2 million white people (as if that should be a concern) and 50 million children.
There's no problem finding people if you aren't xenophobic or racist.
KingKrabvoldIV
If they’re not white they don’t account (according to MAGA).
cytherians
Now blowback from farmers about losing their labor has Trump's administration making it now up to the farmers to determine "illegality"... which means indentured servitude. A form of soft slavery.
The Confederacy is alive and well in the Republican Party.
ImKindaDone
Always has been...
NotTheDevilYouKnow
When they said 'The South will rise again!' and no one took them seriously our fate was already decided.
Easykehl
As human birth rates fall globally, we’re soon entering a new era where nations will be competing for immigrants.
And Trump goes and destroys our branding worse than Elon did to Tesla.
idontreadyourreplies
genius business men always think ahead
amyamazeballs
Well if Trump loves Putin so much it makes sense to weaken USA in general and fuck it up however he can
DarthGoodguy
“The government should be run like a business!!1!” -people who elected a trust fund baby with a lifetime of bankruptcies, money laundering, and fraud
crazyspelling
The far right think tanks are hardening the borders and policies against climate refugees. When the sea level rise hits, there's going to be a billion homeless Indonesians, and millions of others displaced. They want to be able to launch Colonization 3.0 with as many forcibly-birthed Caucasian babies as they can muster.
Noevilgifs
Its not even the sea level rises we need to worry about its the average temps in an area rising we need to worry about
Arizona might have a mass exodus of people in the next 20 years due to rising temps
munkis
Wow, birth rates in Indonesia are going to have to be pretty epic to create a billion of them when there's a quarter of that right now
crazyspelling
You're right, I have no idea why that number was stuck in my head. Maybe it's the whole region?
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Nations are already competing for immigrants. It's always been a game of "who can pull the best people from their home countries?" That's what I don't like about it, that it's basically reverse colonialism now, with the rich countries sucking the educated and better-off people from the poorer countries. It should be that if you want to take one of their best, you also have to take one of their worst. Even it out. But of course that won't happen because it's the rich taking advantage of the poor.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Except the U.S., which is shutting down channels to bring in talented folks too
Rhythmaster
Smart and skilled workers such as scientists are already fleeing the USA, and it makes total sense to do so. Good luck getting any immigrant scientists in, who would risk that? Trump is attacking science AND immigrants.
TheCriticsWereConciseItOnlyTookFourLines
Certainly scientists whose funding has dried up and are seeing their fields kind of collapsing around them (say biotech, for instance) have a lot of incentive to find another country that still supports such work.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
It's certainly going to set them back. Not just compared to the other western nations, but compared to what they were a year ago.
WeatherWiz
I’m safe from having kids because I haven’t gotten laid in years. So woo!
c90007
Same man, same
Ffudmethen
Also the GOP wants to rape every kid now
thesameasyours
Youre about to get fucked by the trump administration https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1azB4MW4zOXA0Y2F1dWc0c3MwaGhveDJnZWJydGxydW9idnlxZXY1aSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/IV2DvTArF5b9u/200w.webp
ihavethelowground
Or ever. https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1Z2wxamZmam1qZXBzMG0yY2g5YTB3cjB0eHM4dWJmazRqNzhmb3VndiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/kSlJtVrqxDYKk/200w.webp
jayman0123
There's more than dozens, but they go by a different name and voted for Trump
ihavethelowground
Nah those people just rape
SaintSleepyWeasel
I am married and still a member of the dozens.
Itslukus
Is it a marriage if it isn't consummated? Asking legitimately... dont worry im having enough sex for this whole thread
Evenmoreuselessname
Aces get married...
rusrsdude
Marriage is just a bond between two people officialized, not much else to it. Sex is optional, talking is optional, hell, knowing each other is optional for the most part.
thricebakedxyz
This
78927x4No1
[Boomer Humor] Try telling my wife talking is optional! (Audience laugh) (Curtains)
Itslukus
Was just kind of teasing a little bit. i knew I should have put a /s lol... I get it though i just want people happy is all
Hyndisfox
This is poor reasoning, the cause and effect are not linked. Birth rates in developed countries have been rapidly falling before Trump took office. The trend line is just continuing as before.
ourari
If anything, birth rates may start to rise again as the U.S. regresses under current and future Trumpian regimes.
ourari
Because: They're further limiting access to healthcare, birth control, proper sex-ed. We also know they're trying to reinstate child labor, and they are creating more economic uncertainty. For lower economic classes, it will not just be the challenge of family planning, but they will need to have more kids to compensate increased child mortality, and they need the extra income those kids will provide down the line.
mardukkur
This is a very logical conclusion to draw given the reason birth rates fall, but we should take note that Orban's Hungary went down this path of reinstating patriarchal right wing women-oppressing nonsense and offered pro-natalist cash prizes, and their birthrates had a small bump (to grab some cash from the gov) and then fell off a cliff.
ourari
Good point. There's a lot more at play that I hadn't factored in like https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clynq459wxgo<">wxgo">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clynq459wxgo</a> and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_infertility_crisis
mardukkur
I think a bigger part is just that it's really hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube once women experience education, bodily autonomy, equal employment etc, and patriarchal soft forced birth policies like the global right nationalist/natalists are trying to impose wouldn't have effects over timescales shorter than a generation.
ourari
Oh, but I was talking about larger timescales, hence the "current and future Trumpian regimes"
mardukkur
The short to medium term reaction to this misogynist devolution is going to be women opting out from giving birth in a fascist society.
gesel
True, but there is political value in implying that falling birthrates are a bad thing (they're not, it is one of the few truly excellent trends going these days, we should all be doing everything we can to minimize the human burden on the planet) and in appealing to a reflexive response to blame the current administration for it. It's ok to let psyop/misrepresentations slide that reduce support for or galvanize resistance to the fascist regime.
Clockworkdancerobot
Birthrates naturally fall as science and medicine progress. Kurzgesagt did a video on it.
Booearth
Nah, it's the systematic rolling back of liberties fought and oftentimes died for by activists of the past. All started because evil people exploited large swaths of fearful bigots to allow for the systematic take over of society by an oligarchy. Reagan was a big tipping point, as was McCarthy, we're just at their endgame.
Booearth
This is what led to more people not being able or willing to have kids, until they enact threats of violence to make more. Which is one of their plans. Futures looking super bright.
idiotsonfire
Correlation does not equal causation, yes, you are correct. There is a significant correlation, though.
Tumescentpie
Trump being in office and low birth rates are related, but both caused by the same effect.
Isorikk
I want kids but I can't afford them, so in a way, they're correlated. But it didn't start with Trump, Reagan is probably where it really first appeared, Trump is just a pinnacle of that movement. As long as we continue to run as an Oligarchy and not a Republic then the birth rates will continue to decline until they take away education entirely. It'll need to be a slow boil, though.
TheEvenPrez
They're correlated. Did T**** cause the circumstances that lead to a low birthrate? No. Dd he pour gasoline on all of the underlying issues? (limited housing, high cost of living, increased cost of medical care, male-female social divide and identity politics)? Absolfuckinglutely.
armagetz
No, they are not. The data the CDC was looking at involved pregnancies that started long before inauguration. And maybe I dodged it but I didn’t see an increase in the upward slope of CoL from the trend in the past 5 years
rossimus
I'm sorry you're getting downvoted. You are objectively correct.
TheEvenPrez
You don't believe there's a correlation between increased cost of living and a rise in extremist sentiment? CPI jumped 2.7% since 2020, with a 3% increase in 12 months time: https://www.bls.gov/cpi/
More than that project 2025 stressed single family homes that are currently flipped by speculators instead of people looking to start families: https://www.planetizen.com/blogs/130699-project-2025-and-housing-policy
I'm not saying that's the only cause, but COLA is a factor, and worsened by policy
armagetz
The core statement was that any impact by Trump wasn’t part of the data they looked at. That isn’t belief. That is fact. Children born *today* were already 2 months into term on day 1 of Trump, and the study wasn’t looking at a window anywhere near that recent.
TheEvenPrez
We're talking past eachother here.
rossimus
Armagetz is correct. Birth rates in developed countries have been declining long before Trump took office. Any correlation is almost certainly not causational.
Cost of living has been rising regardless of Trump's political status. Doesn't make sense to pin it on him or "his America."
TheEvenPrez
Oh and a drop in teen pregnancies, of course
TheEvenPrez
I know, that's why I said correlation.
Birthrates generally declined in part because of austerity policies he picked the torch up on however. Because, again, it's hard to start a family without resources.
Particularly they began in the late 70s, along with another far right politician people like to herald as America's savior...