Once, while looking for a room in an apartment, I read an ad that stipulated "Must own shoes". At first I thought what authoritarian BS is this? The ad ended with "No sucka' MCs!" and that's when I knew... living there would not be worth buying shoes.
I was going to say this! This is the version of the Boomers and Gen Xers referring to everyone under the age of 20 as Millennials for 30 years. They've finally figured out that Gen Z exists, just in time for Gen Z to be the ones having kids and starting careers.
#3 Tried to buy an item from someone online. They said I had to pay before they'd give me an address. I said I needed to see that the item existed before I paid a dime. Have a nice day.
#3 IMO he's framing the question wrong. It's a male/female power dynamic thing. I think men should be willing to share first because women legitimately fear for their safety. In same sex couples you do you, probably fewer safety concerns but I guess that might vary regionally (gay bashers and whatnot).
#1 there will probably only be a small window of time where AI people have six fingers. The concept will probably long outlive the problem and future people will just be confused by it.
#3 I am closer to the first guy. The second boggles my mind. Like you don't go see a band live and then buy their album. I'm going to see if this person is a loon online and if they are I know I don't have to hang out with them
#4 he'll probably know the exact number of steps he took between the car and the door to the doctors office you brought him to to get him tested for autism, but not what the doctors name was or if they were wearing glasses. I wouldn't be worried, encourage his passions enthusiastically but also introduce him patiently to the wider world. I am so lucky to have 5 siblings and grown up moving around often, I was forced to learn human interaction and it's been important.
#3 I didn't go on dates with guys before checking my states criminal record system on them... Before and after social media. I kinda feel bad, but it the same time I'm glad my face is on my head instead of on their face.
#3 imgur is my only social media, I see this a lot on grindr and people are confused that I don't have social media. Fuck that shit, jumped off that bandwagon years ago.
Sonic fandom's especially perverse and full of obsessive autists, most famously with CWC but also like the furry fandom at large. But I think it's more about "he's gonna have a hard enough time in life for being a weirdo, please make him get a hyperfocus in something that will earn a living and be specialized in a way useful enough to give people a reason to put up with his weird ass."
Sonic fandom notorious for lots of autistic individuals to enjoy and they often become obsessive over, and the fandom is very weird and cringey. Sonic OCs being a very popular meme about it.
Sonic fandom is perverse, weird, and full of obsessive autists. For some reason Sonic just itches autistic brains well, and the fandom is full of weirdos. Last thing you'd want your kid becoming part of.
I’m reading it as any game that required perfect timing and memorizing of the play through. Sonic (the originals) were speed runs of what Mario was before it. He’s basically be unstoppable at those games, where being in engineering or architecture would be a most likely preferred subject of study.
Its about the weird and perverted fandom behind Sonic, and how Sonic really attracts autistic people for some reason. And an autistic child will have hard enough time in life without getting mixed into that crowd.
Maybe not controversial, but my opinion on shoes is you should be able to get a shoe in any size. It's really disheartening to see a shoe that I like and only have it available up to 13 or something
Assuming you’re AMAB, it’s the width at the toe box making it difficult. I have narrow feet and still look for styles that let my toes have plenty of room. You may need to size up a half size in those styles if you can. Or a number size or two when using European sizing.
Not really controversial, but while I feel for you I understand why making a shoe that isn't going to sell more than a few isn't in a companies best interest. I have the most average shoe size which believe it or not means I also can't find my size in a popular shoe often when they're popular. Not even close to your struggle I'm sure
I'd like if a given size meant anything and I didn't have snug size 13 sneakers right next to double-sock-loose size 11 work boots at the foot of my bed
Like everything we wear, we need to move away from sizes. The best part of being a man is that at least with pants the waist and inseam are listed in inches. All clothing should be in inches or cm or mm. I want to buy a shoe that measures the length and the width of the toe box. We need more exact measurements. Marketing departments should be fired for this crap.
I think gender plays an important role here. Women justifiably have greater safety concerns than men so men should be more open with their social media. (in same sex situations, you do you, I dunno how that works)
I don't use anything like tiktok, IG, or Facebook. So I'd be screwed if anyone ever asked this of me. Not that I'd need to since I already have a partner. Imgur and reddit are basically all I ever use and even then never post pictures or details about myself.
Imgur and reddit are my only social. Reddit is just to ask a question and wildly different. When I met my wife she found it refreshing. Thank GOD Myspace is no more.
exactly. my social media footprint (outside imgur) is basically null. and whats there isn’t for people i don’t know. but i do understand someone, especially a woman, wanting to verify who the stranger from the internet they are about to meet is. (though this is also why i prefer a mid-day coffee meetup for first meetings. much MUCH safer environment, so less need to pre-vet.
Lol, "my social media footprint is basically null"
I don't HAVE social media. Any. No Facebook, insta, xitter, nothing. I dealt with reddit some years ago when they went heavy Nazism and never looked back. People have trouble believing a millennial doesn't have social media. Fuck em, look me up and find zero. Lol
exactly! my facebook only exists for FB marketplace and because my old job *required* a FB profile to work there. (yes it was toxic as hell). no IG, or any of the others except an old xitter account with false info i haven’t closed. i *should* close it. but a few things i need to track still only post updates to there for some ungodly reason. so i can’t *entirely* ditch it yet. then it’s just imgur, and a subreddit for my fav game. not as good as i’d like. esp the xitter, but working on it
Yeah this is grindr and is atm full of scammers and some not so nice people splashed in amongst all of the gays so I 100% get both of them being a bit wary.
oof yeah makes sense. feels like a great pool of “targets” for anyone looking to go commit some hate crimes. so i totally get the layer of caution, especially in this environment.
Woman not wanting to share contact info until they know the guy isn't crazy or a creeper. Man not wanting to meet up until they know she actually exists and he isn't being scammed or targeted somehow.
I always google everyone im gonna hook up without. Usually name, location and age can help you pinpoint who it is and then you can look em up on socials. Anyone not doing this is just nuts.
Also age... Unless they have an unusual name you might have to look up a few on fb... im old enough that most people i meet are on fb...also might be a small city... About 1 mil people
As an Indigenous dude who teaches land acknowledgements to non Indigenous Peoples of turttle Island. land acknowledgements are given to show allyship and progress towards Reconciliation. Its about learning the history of the Land and understanding the impacts of Colonization on Indigenous Peoples. Its about shareing your Reconciliation jorney and spreading awareness of the positive impacts that can be had when we work together. Together we can create positive narratives that fight stigmas.
Thank you for your interest. :) As an Indigenous Liason I can not express how helpful it can be to improving your relationships with Indigenous Peoples. Showing honesty, heart, knowledge and actively valueing Indigenous Peoples. Goes a long way. I used to help communities and non profits improve relationships and get projects started that otherwise would of gone nowhere without establishing good relationships. Any how cheers yo.
If I'm reading it right, it's a statement that acknowledges the indigenous/traditional keepers of the land; it's a way to be respectful of old traditions.
The joke is that even the apartment rentals have gone woke by acknowledging the traditional owners of the land - Natives. Now they don’t give them the land back or anything, but they seem to think that a few words will appease them.
So woke is this advert in fact that the reply suggests that we should make the spelling of “Landlord” into “Landlxrd” in a sort of “Latino v Latinx” battle of the MOST woke.
That's the real estate equivalent of YouTube posters thinking they're cool with the people they're ripping off by adding "no copyright infringement intended".
I thought it was like a censoring edit because they consider landlord a slur or swearword, kind of like, "slxt" instead of "slut". But now that I think of it, it's more commonly done with an asterisk... F*ck
Theres no need for new gender neutral terms, we can already just call them all parasites
You ever notice the only people who do land acknowledgements are white dickheads who actually have some power to help improve things and choose not to?
See it all the time, it’s infuriating and often condescending.
With the “Welcome to Country” it should always be a Native Elder from the local area, but I don’t blame them if they would not want to welcome the people that took everything from them.
Main thing is I don’t like seeing some non-native try hard welcoming people to land that isn’t theirs.
Also the gender stuff in the post is just kind of mean and unnecessary. Maybe it’s an effort at a pun but why pick on another vulnerable group?
Yeah it doesn't sit right. I remember a line from a movie: "What's going on Chief?" "Don't call me Chief" "Aren't you the tribal chief?" "Yeah but it just sounds racist coming from you" There's an uncanny valley esque feeling from some people over compensating, like you can tell it's backhanded acknowledgement that they have to use the language or lose business but they're not happy
As an Indigenous dude who teaches land acknowledgements to non Indigenous Peoples of turttle Island. You got it wrong. Hosts dont give the acknowledgement, visiters do or non Indigenous Peoples do. I would happly teach about this.
It’s such a fascinating part of culture. Greeting each other is very honoured all across the world but in the western world people often skip that just start ranting at each other.
I will once again bring up the fact that Latinx was invented by Latinx people to describe **themselves**. Did white Americans then absolutely RUN AWAY with it? Yes. But it started with Latinx people just wanting a better word to use. Latinx also predates Latine by at least 5 years. While neither has an exactly clear origin, it seems likely that: Latinx was created by English speaking Latinx people, then a few years later Latine came about in Spanish or Portuguese speaking places for Latine folks
If you have proof of that, or just more knowledge than I have, then I'll defer to you, but the only sort of etymology I can find says they came about around the same time.
Spanish is a highly-gendered language, there's not really a gender-neutral suffix. Latino, latina. A proposed solution is latinx. Don't ask me how that's pronounced.
I have never seen it used by an actual person referring to themselves. Only by white people and overwhelmingly politically correct people applying a label to people that never asked for it.
It’s a very interesting word. It’s not proper Spanish at all.
As you may know the letter X itself is pretty rare in Spanish.
“Latinx” is an ENGLISH-language invention designed for inclusivity of all genders. I guess this is people trying to do the right thing, which is good, but…
It’s pretty offensive to take a word from Spanish, modify it and foist it upon native speakers
Several native Spanish groups have said (paraphrased) We appreciate the consideration and being seen but that's not how our language works so if you could please just not "
Yeah, I'm not surprised. We can see that they are trying to do a good thing. The thing is Spanish Speaking people have rich and diverse cultures, and know best how to use their own languages. This has that whiff of "White Normative" about it. Europeans having colonised half the world now want to "save the poor people" of the developing world from the problems they wouldn't have if it wasn't for colonisation.
As pointed earlier, the spanish version already exists... "Latine". Inclusivity starts with knowledge, some people should give it a try before thinking the world depends on them
I mentioned this elsewhere, and have a longer comment on it elsewhere in the chain, but Latinx predates Latine, and was created by Latinx people to have a word to describe themselves. Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries looked at it, rightfully thought it was not great, and somewhere in there Latine was formed as a word that was both pronounceable and applicable to the same goal.
Rogerwilco1974
#15 That empty section is one piece of cake, is it? Tell me you're American without telling me you're American...
Sh1tMovieGroup
#11 and the asshole still shared it on the internet...
Jonson71
#3 just share your social media. If you don't like them, block them.
Wapusk
Once, while looking for a room in an apartment, I read an ad that stipulated "Must own shoes". At first I thought what authoritarian BS is this? The ad ended with "No sucka' MCs!" and that's when I knew... living there would not be worth buying shoes.
eetsumkaus
#1 Zoomers are already working or in school. It's Gen Alpha that are being raised on AI porn
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
I was going to say this! This is the version of the Boomers and Gen Xers referring to everyone under the age of 20 as Millennials for 30 years. They've finally figured out that Gen Z exists, just in time for Gen Z to be the ones having kids and starting careers.
umbrellamaker
#11 as a fan of old 007 movies this really speaks to me
somethingnotyettaken
#1 Reminds me of the Fifty Shades of Grey quote where he has like 6 thumbs.
pxlphile
#1 as usual xkcd did it first

https://xkcd.com/598/
CelestialSea
#9 Why is the "face swap" a cooked waffle when he's clearly pouring liquid batter into the iron?
AgathaHarkness
#3 Tried to buy an item from someone online. They said I had to pay before they'd give me an address. I said I needed to see that the item existed before I paid a dime. Have a nice day.
FlyingInABlueDream
That was definitely a scam, never pay in advance
CelestialSea
#3 IMO he's framing the question wrong. It's a male/female power dynamic thing. I think men should be willing to share first because women legitimately fear for their safety. In same sex couples you do you, probably fewer safety concerns but I guess that might vary regionally (gay bashers and whatnot).
TattoosAndTENS
#3 the Blue Guy is correct. https://www.them.us/story/grindr-salisbury-university-maryland-assault-hate-crime-charges
This is just one of the more recent hate crimes perpetrated by people faking on Grindr
apathyboy
#9 Why is he pouring batter onto an already cooked waffle then?
Pokedthebear
Came her to say this. Def not a faceswap pic
SedatedSl0th
#4 no. Only two non-consecutive lines are accurate. He’s typical.
yoyo42
#1 there will probably only be a small window of time where AI people have six fingers. The concept will probably long outlive the problem and future people will just be confused by it.
coolbrood
#10 The one time 'MILFs in your area's isn't a scam.
Ryebread91
#4 why away from sonic?
z3xyNinja
Christian Weston Chandler is why
Ryebread91
I know who that is but what does drawing a ruler from memory have to do with it?
z3xyNinja
Autism I imagine
JamueLSaxon4thEdition
#3 I am closer to the first guy. The second boggles my mind. Like you don't go see a band live and then buy their album. I'm going to see if this person is a loon online and if they are I know I don't have to hang out with them
applesforjuice
#4 he'll probably know the exact number of steps he took between the car and the door to the doctors office you brought him to to get him tested for autism, but not what the doctors name was or if they were wearing glasses. I wouldn't be worried, encourage his passions enthusiastically but also introduce him patiently to the wider world. I am so lucky to have 5 siblings and grown up moving around often, I was forced to learn human interaction and it's been important.
VaultGirl69
#3 I didn't go on dates with guys before checking my states criminal record system on them... Before and after social media. I kinda feel bad, but it the same time I'm glad my face is on my head instead of on their face.
oozabooza
Whatever you do, take care of your shoes
InvidiousSquid
Whatever you do,
Always take care of your shoes,
Show me that butthole.
morningxafter
CakeOrGlory
#10 Then you get there and realize they meant cougars.
gayvillian
#3 imgur is my only social media, I see this a lot on grindr and people are confused that I don't have social media. Fuck that shit, jumped off that bandwagon years ago.
pandasmakemehappy
#11 the amount of dudes who don't appreciate things like this is too damn high.
Righteousdew
#4 I don't understand this one.
IFoldlyGo
Dad is worried his son has 'The Knack' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6HojLBsnw
Righteousdew
What does Sonic have to do with it?
ColdestOne
#4 why keep him away from sonic the hedgehog?
Superchao
I think it’s a reference to the kid being Dr robotnik or however you spell it. He’s the main antagonist and good at engineering.
DWRPIconDumper
Sonic fandom's especially perverse and full of obsessive autists, most famously with CWC but also like the furry fandom at large. But I think it's more about "he's gonna have a hard enough time in life for being a weirdo, please make him get a hyperfocus in something that will earn a living and be specialized in a way useful enough to give people a reason to put up with his weird ass."
TacticalSpoon
Sonic fandom has the weirdest seedy underbelly you can imagine. Not the place for a quirky kid to get more quirky.
Senderoth
Sonic fandom notorious for lots of autistic individuals to enjoy and they often become obsessive over, and the fandom is very weird and cringey. Sonic OCs being a very popular meme about it.
hickorybakedbeans
I also want to know, and will come back later to see if it's been answered
Senderoth
Sonic fandom is perverse, weird, and full of obsessive autists. For some reason Sonic just itches autistic brains well, and the fandom is full of weirdos. Last thing you'd want your kid becoming part of.
gatormarc
I have little hope but am clinging to it.
iGotFOLDERS
I’m reading it as any game that required perfect timing and memorizing of the play through. Sonic (the originals) were speed runs of what Mario was before it. He’s basically be unstoppable at those games, where being in engineering or architecture would be a most likely preferred subject of study.
Senderoth
Its about the weird and perverted fandom behind Sonic, and how Sonic really attracts autistic people for some reason. And an autistic child will have hard enough time in life without getting mixed into that crowd.
z3xyNinja
Christian Weston Chandler is why
nils311
Maybe not controversial, but my opinion on shoes is you should be able to get a shoe in any size. It's really disheartening to see a shoe that I like and only have it available up to 13 or something
QotU
My size 14 husband feels your pain.
squirrelgirl86
I don't even have very large feet, but the number of brands that refuse to do half or wide sizes is crazy.
xizar
Going from mens shoes where I can pretty much find what I need, to womens and I can't find shit that's even comfortable has sucked.
QotU
You can still wear men’s shoes. Many are pretty gender neutral if you are a pants wearer (I’m a jeans and t shirt person myself).
xizar
Yeah, I tend to stick with sneakers, but my gripe is specifically with some styles. Like boots, goth shoes, heels, stuff like that.
QotU
Assuming you’re AMAB, it’s the width at the toe box making it difficult. I have narrow feet and still look for styles that let my toes have plenty of room. You may need to size up a half size in those styles if you can. Or a number size or two when using European sizing.
xizar
I know *why* they don't fit. I'd be happy to size up, if they still made shoes that size (in a price range I can afford.)
applesforjuice
Not really controversial, but while I feel for you I understand why making a shoe that isn't going to sell more than a few isn't in a companies best interest. I have the most average shoe size which believe it or not means I also can't find my size in a popular shoe often when they're popular. Not even close to your struggle I'm sure
0RocketCat0
I feel you, fellow sasquatch.
AgentTasmania
I'd like if a given size meant anything and I didn't have snug size 13 sneakers right next to double-sock-loose size 11 work boots at the foot of my bed
THEcableguy
I feel that.. workboots are sz 10, AF1 are size 10.5 most other shoes are 11 and puma suedes are 11.5 like wtf is going on here
freshthrowaway1138
Like everything we wear, we need to move away from sizes. The best part of being a man is that at least with pants the waist and inseam are listed in inches. All clothing should be in inches or cm or mm. I want to buy a shoe that measures the length and the width of the toe box. We need more exact measurements. Marketing departments should be fired for this crap.
cameloDancer
#3 response = that is fair and understandable. We have two viable points of view. Good luck, have a nice day, and farewell.
JesusofMethlehem
Over here simply annoyed that "Yes" wasn't combined with the explanation
CelestialSea
I think gender plays an important role here. Women justifiably have greater safety concerns than men so men should be more open with their social media. (in same sex situations, you do you, I dunno how that works)
thepunchline710
I don't use anything like tiktok, IG, or Facebook. So I'd be screwed if anyone ever asked this of me. Not that I'd need to since I already have a partner. Imgur and reddit are basically all I ever use and even then never post pictures or details about myself.
Iwouldbenick
Imgur and reddit are my only social. Reddit is just to ask a question and wildly different. When I met my wife she found it refreshing. Thank GOD Myspace is no more.
ThomasThundersword
exactly. my social media footprint (outside imgur) is basically null. and whats there isn’t for people i don’t know. but i do understand someone, especially a woman, wanting to verify who the stranger from the internet they are about to meet is. (though this is also why i prefer a mid-day coffee meetup for first meetings. much MUCH safer environment, so less need to pre-vet.
Zalm
Lol, "my social media footprint is basically null"
I don't HAVE social media. Any. No Facebook, insta, xitter, nothing. I dealt with reddit some years ago when they went heavy Nazism and never looked back. People have trouble believing a millennial doesn't have social media. Fuck em, look me up and find zero. Lol
ThomasThundersword
exactly! my facebook only exists for FB marketplace and because my old job *required* a FB profile to work there. (yes it was toxic as hell). no IG, or any of the others except an old xitter account with false info i haven’t closed. i *should* close it. but a few things i need to track still only post updates to there for some ungodly reason. so i can’t *entirely* ditch it yet. then it’s just imgur, and a subreddit for my fav game. not as good as i’d like. esp the xitter, but working on it
ArgumentativeArguerJustBecause
Yeah this is grindr and is atm full of scammers and some not so nice people splashed in amongst all of the gays so I 100% get both of them being a bit wary.
ThomasThundersword
oof yeah makes sense. feels like a great pool of “targets” for anyone looking to go commit some hate crimes. so i totally get the layer of caution, especially in this environment.
spartanatreyu
I'm confused, how are they messaging each other if they don't know each other's socials or phone number?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Dating app?
spartanatreyu
Ah, anonymous social network, gotcha
TheKnifeGuy
its a dating app, looks like grindr (mostly for gay men)
ArgumentativeArguerJustBecause
It's grindr
BarnegatLight
Woman not wanting to share contact info until they know the guy isn't crazy or a creeper. Man not wanting to meet up until they know she actually exists and he isn't being scammed or targeted somehow.
ArgumentativeArguerJustBecause
This is 2 dudes. But your point stands none the less.
Semphir
I always google everyone im gonna hook up without.
Usually name, location and age can help you pinpoint who it is and then you can look em up on socials. Anyone not doing this is just nuts.
Semphir
Weird to downvote security. Guess being murdered is preferable to looking someone up. Also, if you don't use friends only, you weird.
BlueDsc
Out of curiosity I just googled my name and location and the only thing relevant to me that comes up is my mom's obituary.
Semphir
Also age... Unless they have an unusual name you might have to look up a few on fb... im old enough that most people i meet are on fb...also might be a small city... About 1 mil people
BlueDsc
Adding my age actually made it so literally nothing related to me popped up.
MPatt08
#15 one piece can be any size, I suppose. I like the trick of saying 2 pieces and I ate both.
humuhumunukuapuaa
That’s my kind of cake slice!
applesforjuice
I've never seen anyone mention the colossal size of that one piece, any of the many many times I've seen this. At least you ate 1/4 of the cake already
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ejY1YnlxaGh6cDJ2cGkwaGw3OWw1bHZuNXJ1cngydTR2Z3RqZWc5aSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/5xtDarmwsuR9sDRObyU/200w.webp
Geistbar
Right center of the cake is to the right of the slicing point.
They only ate 1/5 of it! Which clearly makes a huge difference.
applesforjuice
Ah I was hoping nobody would call me out on my hyperbole. I'm just dramatic, blowing things out of proportion for shock value
Geistbar
Yeah, I was only trying to be funny with it, not drag you over it! Sorry if it came across as a "correction" instead of an extension of the joke.
applesforjuice
Lol nah I thought it was funny you're good
ViolentlyJaded
What does #2 mean?
awildcharmander
usually it means to take a poop
cepacolusmaximus
TheUntiss
As an Indigenous dude who teaches land acknowledgements to non Indigenous Peoples of turttle Island. land acknowledgements are given to show allyship and progress towards Reconciliation. Its about learning the history of the Land and understanding the impacts of Colonization on Indigenous Peoples. Its about shareing your Reconciliation jorney and spreading awareness of the positive impacts that can be had when we work together. Together we can create positive narratives that fight stigmas.
rob0tgot
Thank you for explaining, I've always wondered if it's actually helpful in some way or if it was just virtue signalling
TheUntiss
Thank you for your interest. :) As an Indigenous Liason I can not express how helpful it can be to improving your relationships with Indigenous Peoples. Showing honesty, heart, knowledge and actively valueing Indigenous Peoples. Goes a long way. I used to help communities and non profits improve relationships and get projects started that otherwise would of gone nowhere without establishing good relationships. Any how cheers yo.
nouseforaheart
If I'm reading it right, it's a statement that acknowledges the indigenous/traditional keepers of the land; it's a way to be respectful of old traditions.
captainenhancement
The joke is that even the apartment rentals have gone woke by acknowledging the traditional owners of the land - Natives. Now they don’t give them the land back or anything, but they seem to think that a few words will appease them.
So woke is this advert in fact that the reply suggests that we should make the spelling of “Landlord” into “Landlxrd” in a sort of “Latino v Latinx” battle of the MOST woke.
QotU
Folx
CakeOrGlory
I'm sorry, a land acknowledgement is WHAT!?
That's the real estate equivalent of YouTube posters thinking they're cool with the people they're ripping off by adding "no copyright infringement intended".
thotterpop
I thought it was like a censoring edit because they consider landlord a slur or swearword, kind of like, "slxt" instead of "slut". But now that I think of it, it's more commonly done with an asterisk... F*ck
captainenhancement
You could be right but I’ve gone ALL IN with this explanation 🤣😂so I hope I’m right
thepatioheater
Land Bastard is the only correct gender neutral term for those wankers
MeeseOnABeam
does that imply the existence of landlard
SnozzBerries6969
Thanks, I hate it.
spiritussancto
Theres no need for new gender neutral terms, we can already just call them all parasites
You ever notice the only people who do land acknowledgements are white dickheads who actually have some power to help improve things and choose not to?
captainenhancement
See it all the time, it’s infuriating and often condescending.
With the “Welcome to Country” it should always be a Native Elder from the local area, but I don’t blame them if they would not want to welcome the people that took everything from them.
Main thing is I don’t like seeing some non-native try hard welcoming people to land that isn’t theirs.
Also the gender stuff in the post is just kind of mean and unnecessary. Maybe it’s an effort at a pun but why pick on another vulnerable group?
applesforjuice
Yeah it doesn't sit right. I remember a line from a movie: "What's going on Chief?"
"Don't call me Chief"
"Aren't you the tribal chief?"
"Yeah but it just sounds racist coming from you"
There's an uncanny valley esque feeling from some people over compensating, like you can tell it's backhanded acknowledgement that they have to use the language or lose business but they're not happy
TheUntiss
As an Indigenous dude who teaches land acknowledgements to non Indigenous Peoples of turttle Island. You got it wrong. Hosts dont give the acknowledgement, visiters do or non Indigenous Peoples do. I would happly teach about this.
captainenhancement
I’ve had training on this actually.
Welcome is by the land custodians themselves and acknowledgement is from the others.
captainenhancement
It’s such a fascinating part of culture. Greeting each other is very honoured all across the world but in the western world people often skip that just start ranting at each other.
applesforjuice
Would love to learn more if you feel like making a post!
qtRaven
Latinx? I haven't heard of this.
athena0219
I will once again bring up the fact that Latinx was invented by Latinx people to describe **themselves**. Did white Americans then absolutely RUN AWAY with it? Yes. But it started with Latinx people just wanting a better word to use. Latinx also predates Latine by at least 5 years. While neither has an exactly clear origin, it seems likely that: Latinx was created by English speaking Latinx people, then a few years later Latine came about in Spanish or Portuguese speaking places for Latine folks
PubMed12927120suckssobad
Thank you, I did not know this. Perhaps the word is a shortening of "of Latin extraction"?
Righteousdew
It's stupid because Latine already exists as a gender neutral word.
athena0219
Latinx predates Latine by several years.
Righteousdew
If you have proof of that, or just more knowledge than I have, then I'll defer to you, but the only sort of etymology I can find says they came about around the same time.
mouseasw
Spanish is a highly-gendered language, there's not really a gender-neutral suffix. Latino, latina. A proposed solution is latinx. Don't ask me how that's pronounced.
PubMed12927120suckssobad
While recognizing the word's gender-neutral origin, I always low-key read it as " of Latin extraction"
qtRaven
Ah. Thank you for explaining. I'm familiar at a high school level with Spanish but was unfamiliar with this new term.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
It's pronounced latin-ex
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Or la-ti-nex?
Asadsadsadclown
I have never seen it used by an actual person referring to themselves. Only by white people and overwhelmingly politically correct people applying a label to people that never asked for it.
captainenhancement
It’s a very interesting word. It’s not proper Spanish at all.
As you may know the letter X itself is pretty rare in Spanish.
“Latinx” is an ENGLISH-language invention designed for inclusivity of all genders. I guess this is people trying to do the right thing, which is good, but…
It’s pretty offensive to take a word from Spanish, modify it and foist it upon native speakers
salunatics
Several native Spanish groups have said (paraphrased) We appreciate the consideration and being seen but that's not how our language works so if you could please just not "
captainenhancement
Yeah, I'm not surprised. We can see that they are trying to do a good thing. The thing is Spanish Speaking people have rich and diverse cultures, and know best how to use their own languages. This has that whiff of "White Normative" about it. Europeans having colonised half the world now want to "save the poor people" of the developing world from the problems they wouldn't have if it wasn't for colonisation.
chiefrunswithscissors
That's what anyone who does it to English is doing. Just because your native language is my native language doesn't mean you make the rules.
qtRaven
Yeah. I live in an area with a large Hispanic population and I'd never heard that particular phrase before. So it had me curious.
leedi
As pointed earlier, the spanish version already exists... "Latine". Inclusivity starts with knowledge, some people should give it a try before thinking the world depends on them
athena0219
I mentioned this elsewhere, and have a longer comment on it elsewhere in the chain, but Latinx predates Latine, and was created by Latinx people to have a word to describe themselves. Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries looked at it, rightfully thought it was not great, and somewhere in there Latine was formed as a word that was both pronounceable and applicable to the same goal.