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PoorSucker
Funny guys get laid most, just joking...
Zreen
Tywin Lannister once said "Any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king."
TheFatAussieGuy
I’d like to think I’m a nice guy I’m just ugly as fuck
SirDistic
"nice guys" have an unspoken social contract with women. Real nice guys are just nice. No expectations or contract
ace5762
What I've gleaned, (mostly from observation x.x), is that it's not really about being nice or nasty. It' a matter of being interesting.
dontrike
In my experiences nice guys tend to get used more. It's why after giving people money I never saw them again.
MeowMachine12
There's a huge difference in being nice and being a pushover or being too trusting.
PMmeYourFeetLadies
This isn't true
aCheekyFingerUpTheBum
foreverinchains
If you're the type of guy who has to constantly tell people you're a nice guy, you probably aren't a nice guy.
spookyactionatadistance
Had a landlord always telling "Je suis pas un salaud moi" before being a "putain de salaud"
StevieTheAussie
I’m an asshole.
GiftedMagnet
*ooh de oh de ooh’s in Dennis Leary*
BELGIANfries
Well hello there
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
Do you drive really slow in the ultra fast lane, while people behind you are going insane?
Eramik
Goes for most things; If you have to tell people you are *something*, you probably are not that *something*
TheUseriestName
Except for people who brag about how much of an edgy asshole they are, and how they hate people. They're usually right ?
CubwardOHulihan
See Christians.
Noughmad
Any guy who must say "I'm a nice guy" is no true nice guy.
okyouwin
Even if they somehow are, they'll never live up to the claim.
ToSisPoS
Decitron
Such an underrated episode.
Xen300
It's not about being nice or being a jerk. You can be either one of those, but if you have charisma, people will be drawn to you regardless.
ShieldAnvil1
I was very close friends with so many girls, they just did not like me that way and it can be depressing but if you take it out on them 1/2
then you are not a nice guy. My simple real nice guy test is, do you have have to tell girls you are a nice guy? then you are probably not.2
Stenosa83
#1 saw something in a DnD campaign once. "I'm sure you're a nice guy but what are you doing to make yourself more interesting/attractive."
Larktonguesinadicecup
Jerks are more comfortable approaching people, because they don't worry about how they might come across. Their arrogance is equivalent to,
or a good enough substitute for, real confidence. They approach women more, and more aggressively, and rebound from rejection more quickly.
Pure percentage wise they succeed more often; doesn't mean it's happy or lasting. Caring people are more careful and simply end up trying a
lot less often, and much more selectively. In any case tnetea high failure rate for relationships.
Grurim
I always was nice, but I was ugly, so it took me longer than a lot of jerks. But hey, Im married now, so it worked out in the end.
GravyEducation
Congrats on the sex
SilverNicktail
Being good with your tongue helps.
Polysloth
Living is a bit like writing; show, don't tell. As soon as you feel you have to tell someone what you're like, they probably think 'nope'.
jazzskeletor
Drix1942
Wooh, I posted that. \ ( ^ o ^ ) /
The post has 6 points and is favorited by 1; you. I guess I made it specifically for you, then. ^ _ ^
Match made in heaven :) I gave you some upvotes, sorry for stealing your meme
The hell you talking about "stealing your meme"? You've made it in meme biz when your OC is good enough for someone else to use. ^ _ ^
johnwilliamsistheman
That’s the funniest shit I’ve seen all day
TheEvenPrez
Doing kind things with an expectation of a reward isn’t nice
Chareu
Or it could be that your niceness holds you back from trying
KiwiGameDev
Also… nice isn’t a personality? It’s kinda a prerequisite for a healthy long term relationship.
MasterElements
I try my best to be a nice person, but I am autistic, ADD and have very bad luck, I've been rejected because she was with her first cousin.
jimplaysgames10
You're better off trying to be interesting. Find someone who shares your interests and bond over that. Luck changes
So far it has not, my hobbies are very male dominated so most women are already in relationships.
Have you considered polyamory? You don't need to find someone who is single if they're poly
Yeah, it isn't helping, I am just not what women want, not everyone gets a happy ending.
NotaCPA
dodging bullets like Neo over here.
You're not wrong but when people ask me why I have never been in a relationship, in my 30s, I tell them that
debthepleb
Hahahaha. Wow. You seriously lucked out on that one bruv
pretendthisisagoodusername
I'm a nice guy, my failures at romance is cause of my depression and crippling anxiety and general lack of confidence (caused by those two)
zFUBARz
Eh, where that shit on your shoulder, lack of confidence becomes confidence when you're open and up front about it.
superbob201
I put "showers regularly" front-and-center on my resume, but I don't get any call backs. Seems like employers only want stinky workers.
JabesMcJabesface
That was brilliant, genuinely an amazing comparison.
Lol that’s a perfect analogy
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Yeh, but some of us are just kinda autistic and don’t know how to do romance. I’ve been called a nice guy dozens of times. Doesn’t help lol.
Well I know how to do it once I’m in it, I just don’t really understand how to get to it again. (I’ve had one long-term relationship in 32y)
reindeercrossing
Have you tried dating autistic women? NTs don't always get it, but other people on the spectrum tend to be less judgmental.
Ahhh I’m just sort of in that horrible place where adhd means I can be super engaging, or just slightly incoherent and bizarre…. I have 1/
Autistic traits most people I know don’t even accept my adhd diagnosis as legitimate or meaningful. I’ve had great chats with adhd people 2/
Who happily ghost me without any indication why. Often it’s when they find out I’m not working at the moment (so no difference to normies)
Dasiana
I think "I'm a nice guy" guys think giving compliments for a short period of time or listening while half-tuned out then making their move
SteelKnight
Be nice for just long enough to fill the love meter like in a Bioware RPG.
ENCHANTMEN
But... That's how it works in video games
Gayforbae
Video game romances have ruined them. Say nice things to someone every day for a week and youre supposed to be rewarded with a sexy cutscene
DanFendi
They existed long before that. Men are raised to believe obedience, industry, and politeness are rewarded with what they want.
They also think the respect women when in reality, they don't respect any women and they pretend to respect women they find attractive
SpeedyCerviche
I'm a nice guy and I get laid. I'm a fat 35 year old uggo. If they're not with me cause I'm nice, I don't know wtf they're doing with me.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Out of curiousity, is this an accurate depiction of you?
I am also rather broke lol and work in sales. Nothing special. Not a dr or anything
RevLegoFoot
Awesome username ?
Clearly not for my confidence either!
HomeRunWoman
Congrats on the sex, but don’t be so hard on yourself!
LordAndSaviourBirdJesus
Sounds like OP is hard on others too, not only himself
clearly you've got something going on for you, maybe you're genuinely nice and connect well with people (as opposed to the "nice guy" creeps
the post is talking about) roll with it and enjoy!
is "being nice". this is completely anecdotal but it feels like "I said nice stuff and then pushed the sex button and sex didn't come out
TheNameYouLoveToTouchButYouMustntTouch
‘Pushed the sex button and the sex didn’t come out’ LMAO you win the internet for me today.
from the machine immediately so clearly girls just want to be with assholes"
Chereazi
Self proclaimed "nice guys" are typically sexist as fuck. Big no thanks to that.
yeah the "nice" vanishes real quick if you don't give them what they want. and it's sad that they don't understand the difference between
"acting nicely" and the kind of genuine connection that leads to good sex
dohcohv
I am a nice guy and it turns out I wasn't picking up hints or women thought I was gay. All I did was drive a Miata, go out drinking with the
Gay guys from work, buy fruity drinks and I can see how that would look. Tbf Miata is fun, gay guys talked about more than sports, and
Fruity drinks are delicious even when 30% alcohol.
Same with my husband. I have to give chicks the stink eye to ward them off while he's just oblivious and building Lego smh lol
The stink eye. I got that. Two of mine are blue, the other is brown. That's the stinky one.
I'm not really sure what it is but I think a lot of people assume I'm gay too, I'm just not trying to hit on women at every opportunity 1/
But it is flattering to get hit on by gay guys. The women aren't so forward
I feel like this is stigmatized a lot. And when I tried and got rejected, I couldn't cope well :/ apparently women are supposed to just...
Valyndris
I like jerks, I also like nice guys too. Okay, I'm just thirsty.
Can I recommend a sex toy? :) Genuinely asking. Lol
Sure, I'm due for a new one anyway.
Oh dang. I bought it a few months ago from Amazon (I know, shit company) and its no longer available. It was a licking vibrator though.
I order on Amazon Canada and yeah they come and go often. A lot of scammers in that section though.
JumpBaconSpy
Don't worry, the guys are too :)
Two years of Covid will do that to a body
oldguyexlurker
Prepare your inbox...
Not this time, the most DMs I've gotten on here was when I mentioned that I use a dildo gag. Oops, now I might get messages. ?
You seem to have been correct, but surprisingly few given the titillating nature of your comment. 'Interesting adventurousness, though.
darkfero
Whats a dildo gag?
Instead of using a ball to gag myself it's a dildo that reaches the gag reflex, it's intense to use. It can even be locked with a key.
Ty for the clarrification.
acetothermus
I'm a nice guy and I never get laid. Being nice isn't enough. You also have to be assertive.
That's not what you're missing. You just need to make a connection. Go on enough dates and someone will be a good match sooner or later.
Calise425
Unfortunately often the people who go for nice, more timid guys are also nice and timid themselves.. and both parties are too shy to assert
RamsesMCMXCI
Jesus, no. It's about being genuine, most girls can smell a fuckboy from a mile away. Nice guys think they're smooth but they're not.
Oh I know I'm not smooth. I don't even pretend.
thezookeeper
I know a lot of good guys (and girls) who are off putting because they come across as desperate.
RoodKontjeAapje
You have to be attractive. If so, you don't need to be assertive. If not, being assertive will earn you a 1 way trip to Me Too land.
JEMbalaya
Hence why I will die alone
User7631234
Its more that you just cant be a cowardyou have to ask and be direct. No dumb games trying to read signals, just go for it. But take noasano
thepuppeteer777
You, me, where fucking tonight. (L...like that?)
poopslave
Could work at the bars if you ask enough.
JaromirAzarov
At the very least you have to make the move eventually. That used to be my problem back in the day...
Sageypie
I mean, "nice" really isn't anything. It's a baseline. You've got to bring something to the table with it. Learn some jokes, learn a magic-
-trick, pick up some fun trivia. Just something to catch some interest there beyond being nice. If you're genuine about it, people will dig-
-it. Trust me, I am also a chronically nice dude, but I know a bunch of trivia stuff, and I try to keep witty. Goes a long way there.
This. Its like a job advert blurb: "We offer competitive wages". Colour me unimpressed. Offer superior wages.
garuffthehorse
You don't have to be assertive at all - you have to be open to social cues and receptive to implied (as well as active) consent.
I have sex as often as someone wants to have sex with me and that is the right amount. If people don't want to fuck you, work on yourself
qyrriqat
On the one hand, I don't think it's a truism that "nice guys finish last." On the other hand, I think there are plenty of guys who are 1/
genuinely trying to be nice and are just socially clumsy and awkward. The late bloomers, the gray-ace and demi, the ones who can't figure
out how to fit in, the ones who were always picked last in school... They don't quite know how to make it work and just stumble through 3/
as best they can. 4/4
Kjasi
I'm in this post, and I'm not sure if I like it...
otiumCatulli
Did you not read the scroll of truth. It literally says you might not be as nice as you think you are.
kuhzoo
Women like 'confidence'. Unfortunately 'confident' and 'asshole' look very similar.
RumbleNtheJungle
No they don’t. You can know your worth without having to shit on anyone else’s.
As a 30 year old seasoned women, they only look similar to inexperienced women. And often times abused women
DrippingWithSarcasm
This. My gf is still strung up on her ex, he is emotionally abusive but she just keeps trying to help him. Can't get her off that guilt
Indeed. And often have significant overlap. That's okay, I'll do my single thing. I'm better alone anyway. ?
word. I'm also learning to just appreciate my own company and focus on my own stuff. there's so much better more energy for everything
else important when you're not stressing over romance. enjoy yourself +1
imnotgoodwithschedules
Not to me. I'm quite sure I can distinguish.
neomagus00
I think it's more that one person's confident is another's arrogant or assholey. Just like the romantic/creepy continuum.
You're one of the lucky ones then?
It's not luck, it's experience in most cases.
This is an oversimplification and most girls mature enough that someone would want to be interested in could tell the difference.
True, that maturity often takes some time and experience to develop though ... on all sides.
ProgeriaProstitutes
Why do so many girls keep choosing men that beat them up then?
Because it's a result of being abused and not believing they deserve better, and many other reasons too long to post here.
have you heard of the term..."Hot Girl Summer" I wouldn't put my money on women maturing until they start getting rejected by guys they like
UpvoteFairyCakes
I mean… if you’re hanging around the groups that would ever use that phrase, that’s your first mistake my friend. That’s like if I hung 1/2
around guys who said ‘lads lads lads’ and believed in ‘top banter’ and then claimed they’re all immature. Yeah, *those* guys generally are.
I'm not sure. "Dates Assholes Syndrome" isn't pleasant and can convince women to re-think how they judge guys ... eventually.
it's the eventually that gets me. I'm almost 40 and divorced. I've dated a few older women and many younger women. They age skews younger 2
PoorSucker
Funny guys get laid most, just joking...
Zreen
Tywin Lannister once said "Any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king."
TheFatAussieGuy
I’d like to think I’m a nice guy I’m just ugly as fuck
SirDistic
"nice guys" have an unspoken social contract with women. Real nice guys are just nice. No expectations or contract
ace5762
What I've gleaned, (mostly from observation x.x), is that it's not really about being nice or nasty. It' a matter of being interesting.
dontrike
In my experiences nice guys tend to get used more. It's why after giving people money I never saw them again.
MeowMachine12
There's a huge difference in being nice and being a pushover or being too trusting.
PMmeYourFeetLadies
This isn't true
aCheekyFingerUpTheBum
foreverinchains
If you're the type of guy who has to constantly tell people you're a nice guy, you probably aren't a nice guy.
spookyactionatadistance
Had a landlord always telling "Je suis pas un salaud moi" before being a "putain de salaud"
StevieTheAussie
I’m an asshole.
GiftedMagnet
*ooh de oh de ooh’s in Dennis Leary*
BELGIANfries
Well hello there
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
Do you drive really slow in the ultra fast lane, while people behind you are going insane?
Eramik
Goes for most things; If you have to tell people you are *something*, you probably are not that *something*
TheUseriestName
Except for people who brag about how much of an edgy asshole they are, and how they hate people. They're usually right ?
CubwardOHulihan
See Christians.
Noughmad
Any guy who must say "I'm a nice guy" is no true nice guy.
okyouwin
Even if they somehow are, they'll never live up to the claim.
ToSisPoS
Decitron
Such an underrated episode.
Xen300
It's not about being nice or being a jerk. You can be either one of those, but if you have charisma, people will be drawn to you regardless.
ShieldAnvil1
I was very close friends with so many girls, they just did not like me that way and it can be depressing but if you take it out on them 1/2
ShieldAnvil1
then you are not a nice guy. My simple real nice guy test is, do you have have to tell girls you are a nice guy? then you are probably not.2
Stenosa83
#1 saw something in a DnD campaign once. "I'm sure you're a nice guy but what are you doing to make yourself more interesting/attractive."
Larktonguesinadicecup
Jerks are more comfortable approaching people, because they don't worry about how they might come across. Their arrogance is equivalent to,
Larktonguesinadicecup
or a good enough substitute for, real confidence. They approach women more, and more aggressively, and rebound from rejection more quickly.
Larktonguesinadicecup
Pure percentage wise they succeed more often; doesn't mean it's happy or lasting. Caring people are more careful and simply end up trying a
Larktonguesinadicecup
lot less often, and much more selectively. In any case tnetea high failure rate for relationships.
Grurim
I always was nice, but I was ugly, so it took me longer than a lot of jerks. But hey, Im married now, so it worked out in the end.
GravyEducation
Congrats on the sex
SilverNicktail
Being good with your tongue helps.
Polysloth
Living is a bit like writing; show, don't tell. As soon as you feel you have to tell someone what you're like, they probably think 'nope'.
jazzskeletor
Drix1942
Wooh, I posted that. \ ( ^ o ^ ) /
jazzskeletor
Drix1942
The post has 6 points and is favorited by 1; you. I guess I made it specifically for you, then. ^ _ ^
jazzskeletor
Match made in heaven :) I gave you some upvotes, sorry for stealing your meme
Drix1942
The hell you talking about "stealing your meme"? You've made it in meme biz when your OC is good enough for someone else to use. ^ _ ^
johnwilliamsistheman
That’s the funniest shit I’ve seen all day
TheEvenPrez
Doing kind things with an expectation of a reward isn’t nice
Chareu
Or it could be that your niceness holds you back from trying
KiwiGameDev
Also… nice isn’t a personality? It’s kinda a prerequisite for a healthy long term relationship.
MasterElements
I try my best to be a nice person, but I am autistic, ADD and have very bad luck, I've been rejected because she was with her first cousin.
jimplaysgames10
You're better off trying to be interesting. Find someone who shares your interests and bond over that. Luck changes
MasterElements
So far it has not, my hobbies are very male dominated so most women are already in relationships.
jimplaysgames10
Have you considered polyamory? You don't need to find someone who is single if they're poly
MasterElements
Yeah, it isn't helping, I am just not what women want, not everyone gets a happy ending.
NotaCPA
dodging bullets like Neo over here.
MasterElements
You're not wrong but when people ask me why I have never been in a relationship, in my 30s, I tell them that
debthepleb
Hahahaha. Wow. You seriously lucked out on that one bruv
pretendthisisagoodusername
I'm a nice guy, my failures at romance is cause of my depression and crippling anxiety and general lack of confidence (caused by those two)
zFUBARz
Eh, where that shit on your shoulder, lack of confidence becomes confidence when you're open and up front about it.
superbob201
I put "showers regularly" front-and-center on my resume, but I don't get any call backs. Seems like employers only want stinky workers.
JabesMcJabesface
That was brilliant, genuinely an amazing comparison.
KiwiGameDev
Lol that’s a perfect analogy
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Yeh, but some of us are just kinda autistic and don’t know how to do romance. I’ve been called a nice guy dozens of times. Doesn’t help lol.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Well I know how to do it once I’m in it, I just don’t really understand how to get to it again. (I’ve had one long-term relationship in 32y)
reindeercrossing
Have you tried dating autistic women? NTs don't always get it, but other people on the spectrum tend to be less judgmental.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Ahhh I’m just sort of in that horrible place where adhd means I can be super engaging, or just slightly incoherent and bizarre…. I have 1/
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Autistic traits most people I know don’t even accept my adhd diagnosis as legitimate or meaningful. I’ve had great chats with adhd people 2/
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Who happily ghost me without any indication why. Often it’s when they find out I’m not working at the moment (so no difference to normies)
Dasiana
I think "I'm a nice guy" guys think giving compliments for a short period of time or listening while half-tuned out then making their move
SteelKnight
Be nice for just long enough to fill the love meter like in a Bioware RPG.
ENCHANTMEN
But... That's how it works in video games
Gayforbae
Video game romances have ruined them. Say nice things to someone every day for a week and youre supposed to be rewarded with a sexy cutscene
DanFendi
They existed long before that. Men are raised to believe obedience, industry, and politeness are rewarded with what they want.
MeowMachine12
They also think the respect women when in reality, they don't respect any women and they pretend to respect women they find attractive
SpeedyCerviche
I'm a nice guy and I get laid. I'm a fat 35 year old uggo. If they're not with me cause I'm nice, I don't know wtf they're doing with me.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Out of curiousity, is this an accurate depiction of you?
SpeedyCerviche
I am also rather broke lol and work in sales. Nothing special. Not a dr or anything
RevLegoFoot
Awesome username ?
SpeedyCerviche
Clearly not for my confidence either!
HomeRunWoman
Congrats on the sex, but don’t be so hard on yourself!
LordAndSaviourBirdJesus
Sounds like OP is hard on others too, not only himself
Dasiana
clearly you've got something going on for you, maybe you're genuinely nice and connect well with people (as opposed to the "nice guy" creeps
Dasiana
the post is talking about) roll with it and enjoy!
Dasiana
is "being nice". this is completely anecdotal but it feels like "I said nice stuff and then pushed the sex button and sex didn't come out
TheNameYouLoveToTouchButYouMustntTouch
‘Pushed the sex button and the sex didn’t come out’ LMAO you win the internet for me today.
Dasiana
from the machine immediately so clearly girls just want to be with assholes"
Chereazi
Self proclaimed "nice guys" are typically sexist as fuck. Big no thanks to that.
Dasiana
yeah the "nice" vanishes real quick if you don't give them what they want. and it's sad that they don't understand the difference between
Dasiana
"acting nicely" and the kind of genuine connection that leads to good sex
dohcohv
I am a nice guy and it turns out I wasn't picking up hints or women thought I was gay. All I did was drive a Miata, go out drinking with the
dohcohv
Gay guys from work, buy fruity drinks and I can see how that would look. Tbf Miata is fun, gay guys talked about more than sports, and
dohcohv
Fruity drinks are delicious even when 30% alcohol.
debthepleb
Same with my husband. I have to give chicks the stink eye to ward them off while he's just oblivious and building Lego smh lol
okyouwin
The stink eye. I got that. Two of mine are blue, the other is brown. That's the stinky one.
GravyEducation
I'm not really sure what it is but I think a lot of people assume I'm gay too, I'm just not trying to hit on women at every opportunity 1/
GravyEducation
But it is flattering to get hit on by gay guys. The women aren't so forward
debthepleb
I feel like this is stigmatized a lot. And when I tried and got rejected, I couldn't cope well :/ apparently women are supposed to just...
Valyndris
I like jerks, I also like nice guys too. Okay, I'm just thirsty.
MeowMachine12
Can I recommend a sex toy? :) Genuinely asking. Lol
Valyndris
Sure, I'm due for a new one anyway.
MeowMachine12
Oh dang. I bought it a few months ago from Amazon (I know, shit company) and its no longer available. It was a licking vibrator though.
Valyndris
I order on Amazon Canada and yeah they come and go often. A lot of scammers in that section though.
JumpBaconSpy
Don't worry, the guys are too :)
GravyEducation
Two years of Covid will do that to a body
oldguyexlurker
Prepare your inbox...
Valyndris
Not this time, the most DMs I've gotten on here was when I mentioned that I use a dildo gag. Oops, now I might get messages. ?
oldguyexlurker
You seem to have been correct, but surprisingly few given the titillating nature of your comment. 'Interesting adventurousness, though.
darkfero
Whats a dildo gag?
Valyndris
Instead of using a ball to gag myself it's a dildo that reaches the gag reflex, it's intense to use. It can even be locked with a key.
darkfero
Ty for the clarrification.
acetothermus
I'm a nice guy and I never get laid. Being nice isn't enough. You also have to be assertive.
jimplaysgames10
That's not what you're missing. You just need to make a connection. Go on enough dates and someone will be a good match sooner or later.
Calise425
Unfortunately often the people who go for nice, more timid guys are also nice and timid themselves.. and both parties are too shy to assert
RamsesMCMXCI
Jesus, no. It's about being genuine, most girls can smell a fuckboy from a mile away. Nice guys think they're smooth but they're not.
acetothermus
Oh I know I'm not smooth. I don't even pretend.
thezookeeper
I know a lot of good guys (and girls) who are off putting because they come across as desperate.
RoodKontjeAapje
You have to be attractive. If so, you don't need to be assertive. If not, being assertive will earn you a 1 way trip to Me Too land.
JEMbalaya
Hence why I will die alone
User7631234
Its more that you just cant be a cowardyou have to ask and be direct. No dumb games trying to read signals, just go for it. But take noasano
thepuppeteer777
You, me, where fucking tonight. (L...like that?)
poopslave
Could work at the bars if you ask enough.
JaromirAzarov
At the very least you have to make the move eventually. That used to be my problem back in the day...
Sageypie
I mean, "nice" really isn't anything. It's a baseline. You've got to bring something to the table with it. Learn some jokes, learn a magic-
Sageypie
-trick, pick up some fun trivia. Just something to catch some interest there beyond being nice. If you're genuine about it, people will dig-
Sageypie
-it. Trust me, I am also a chronically nice dude, but I know a bunch of trivia stuff, and I try to keep witty. Goes a long way there.
okyouwin
This. Its like a job advert blurb: "We offer competitive wages". Colour me unimpressed. Offer superior wages.
garuffthehorse
You don't have to be assertive at all - you have to be open to social cues and receptive to implied (as well as active) consent.
garuffthehorse
I have sex as often as someone wants to have sex with me and that is the right amount. If people don't want to fuck you, work on yourself
qyrriqat
On the one hand, I don't think it's a truism that "nice guys finish last." On the other hand, I think there are plenty of guys who are 1/
qyrriqat
genuinely trying to be nice and are just socially clumsy and awkward. The late bloomers, the gray-ace and demi, the ones who can't figure
qyrriqat
out how to fit in, the ones who were always picked last in school... They don't quite know how to make it work and just stumble through 3/
qyrriqat
as best they can. 4/4
Kjasi
I'm in this post, and I'm not sure if I like it...
otiumCatulli
Did you not read the scroll of truth. It literally says you might not be as nice as you think you are.
kuhzoo
Women like 'confidence'. Unfortunately 'confident' and 'asshole' look very similar.
RumbleNtheJungle
No they don’t. You can know your worth without having to shit on anyone else’s.
MeowMachine12
As a 30 year old seasoned women, they only look similar to inexperienced women. And often times abused women
DrippingWithSarcasm
This. My gf is still strung up on her ex, he is emotionally abusive but she just keeps trying to help him. Can't get her off that guilt
acetothermus
Indeed. And often have significant overlap. That's okay, I'll do my single thing. I'm better alone anyway. ?
Dasiana
word. I'm also learning to just appreciate my own company and focus on my own stuff. there's so much better more energy for everything
Dasiana
else important when you're not stressing over romance. enjoy yourself +1
imnotgoodwithschedules
Not to me. I'm quite sure I can distinguish.
neomagus00
I think it's more that one person's confident is another's arrogant or assholey. Just like the romantic/creepy continuum.
kuhzoo
You're one of the lucky ones then?
MeowMachine12
It's not luck, it's experience in most cases.
RamsesMCMXCI
This is an oversimplification and most girls mature enough that someone would want to be interested in could tell the difference.
kuhzoo
True, that maturity often takes some time and experience to develop though ... on all sides.
ProgeriaProstitutes
Why do so many girls keep choosing men that beat them up then?
RamsesMCMXCI
Because it's a result of being abused and not believing they deserve better, and many other reasons too long to post here.
NotaCPA
have you heard of the term..."Hot Girl Summer" I wouldn't put my money on women maturing until they start getting rejected by guys they like
UpvoteFairyCakes
I mean… if you’re hanging around the groups that would ever use that phrase, that’s your first mistake my friend. That’s like if I hung 1/2
UpvoteFairyCakes
around guys who said ‘lads lads lads’ and believed in ‘top banter’ and then claimed they’re all immature. Yeah, *those* guys generally are.
kuhzoo
I'm not sure. "Dates Assholes Syndrome" isn't pleasant and can convince women to re-think how they judge guys ... eventually.
NotaCPA
it's the eventually that gets me. I'm almost 40 and divorced. I've dated a few older women and many younger women. They age skews younger 2