candiedyms
1467
56
8
Aug 15, 2025 10:27 PM
candiedyms
1467
56
8
MirroredImage
If they have more than one home, we have a problem. Otherwise, I think we should continue taking care of our elderly, thank you, instead of borrowing from it til the Tantrum Throwing Baby Party figures we won't notice if it's just gone
Them3OtherGuys
When Social Security was first implemented, it was 100% OUR money, hands off to any government agency. At one point, there was an insane amount of funds just from the interest. Unable to resist the honey pot, bills were passed over the years that let the Federal government "borrow" from SS with no intent of ever paying it back. I'll give you one guess as to which party created the majority of those bills, and it's not the one that starts with a D.
DrenLithear
The Green Party?!
alcamar
And now that so many are going to need the system that is likely to collapse from the decades of drain, they're going to shut it down so they don't get found out. I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to make it a democrats fault
RenaldoMooon
Regan announced he was taking the surplus (receipts in excess of payouts) to plug holes in the budged, and successive Presidents followed suit until Obama, when Social Security payouts started exceeding receipts. The Bloated Brainless Bill could have made SS solvent again, but did not create enough ass kissery for DJT’s liking.
Frostycopper
Pretty short sited. This is how we get people wanting private health coverage.
medimr
"I'm stupid enough to think that all the elderly on social security are homeowners."
IJustWantToMakeAComment
Student loan forgiveness!!!!! Give us that and let’s try to fix ss in the meantime. But while us workers are supporting the very people who destroyed the housing market we should get loan forgiveness
KillingTlme
They have been talking about how SS won't be around for future generations, since my grandparents were kids.
BeckyLookAtHerButt
Well, duh. It takes until you are 70 to be able to afford a home.
RomanValkre
If they get rid of it I want a refund. Been paying in for almost 30 years now...
UWAGAGABLAGABLAGABA
Don't forget the interest
Ijustheartthings
It’s only a serious political question if you understand nothing about how social security works. Those people drawing it today already paid into it their entire working lives. We may be paying into a system that will soon be insolvent, but it’s wrong to claim those receiving their benefit today don’t deserve it. Let’s fix it instead of making shitty strawman arguments.
Ijustheartthings
Oh and here’s a two word solution: Tax Billionaires. Your welcome.
ontarioOT
It's not even that difficult. All you have to do is remove the contribution cap. You know, the one that makes it so that someone earning $176,000 a year makes the same contribution as someone making double, triple, quadruple, etc. that amount.
mksu
So fix social security instead of ruining it further.
RoyDMercer
That would be too simple.
FukcTedCruz
Yeah but that would require increasing the taxable income on the wealthy. We obviously can't do something that crazy.
JStengah
But that's their whole plan. Chip away at useful programs until they're so broken people won't complain when they're stopped entirely.
NotGoodAtUserNames1
They’ve been it doing with public education since at least Regan, too.
aflarge
How? The Republicans WANT it ruined, and the Democrats' response to demands are typically something to the tune of "and what are you gonna do if we don't, vote Republican? Fuck you, know your place."
Chereazi
Improving it requires to have actual solid majority and time, and voters insist on not giving them either and instead electing sledgehammers to get rid of all progress again...
aflarge
So, given that I vote blue, live in a blue state, the answer is.. exactly what I've been doing, even though it's done fuck-all, so far?
mksu
aflarge
How many have YOU eaten?
ZaphodBbx
"Why should *MY* car insurance premiums go to pay for some other guy car repairs?"
phant0mfoxes
That metaphor doesn't work particularly well. With insurance, as long as you pay it you're reasonably guaranteed (depending on shittiness of the company) to get your own repairs paid for when needed. The point here is that we are paying for everyone else's, when the forecast is that we won't get ours paid for. If you tax me for forty years under the promise that I'll get it back to support me in retirement and then yank the rug out at 41 years, I better get that money back.
phant0mfoxes
And I don't care about taxes in general - I'm happy to pay for roads and schools I don't use etc, because that's society and other people are paying for the roads and services I do use. But this is like me paying for their roads and not getting any road at all in return.
ZaphodBbx
Social Security, and Medicare, literally *are* insurance. And like car insurance in most of the US, they are legally mandated.
phant0mfoxes
"legally mandated"? SS is currently on track to be insolvent by 2032. Medicare is facing $490 billion in cuts from 2027-2034 under the current rules and recent budget bill. Mandate away, but current people paying out the ass for Social security have every reason to believe they won't get that back. At the minimum, without improvements, every beneficiary will have at least a 24% cut in their benefits from what we were told we would get. There's a whole website where you track your
phant0mfoxes
contributions and what you should be getting, and we are not on track to actually get that, so "legally mandated" is a nice phrase signifying nothing