Anti-social personality disorder- also no conscience. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/trump-nyt-ad-george-conway-pac "Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) is characterized by a profound disregard for the rights and feelings of others. Individuals with ASPD consistently violate social norms, exploit others, and lack empathy or remorse for their actions. This can manifest in various ways, including deceitfulness, impulsivity, aggression, and a reckless disregard for safety."
What some people don't understand is empathy is a hindrance in a capitalist society. People literally cannot afford to be empathetic because they have enough problems trying to make ends meet..
"And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That's what sin is." "It's a lot more complicated than that-" "No. It ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts." Pterry getting it right, as usual.
Did they totally lack empathy or did the only lack it for their victims? One of the defining features of genocidal regimes is the dehumanisation of their victims. We don't have empathy for non humans generally (there are obvious exceptions) so that's how it works.
Yep, I read a quick synopsis on that book. There is no way that the woman who wrote “Toxic Empathy” is a Christian. She definitely a hateful bigoted piece of trash though
Man, the way Republicans and their supporters are now purely anti- everything that makes people human (love, empathy, caring for/about each other, trust, life, happiness, and so on) is getting to the point where I'm like, they're monsters that are trying to make the rest of us monsters like them. Like a genuine kind of vampire or something. Like an infectious, hungry evil.
This should always be followed by the fElon muskrats quote about how we are all getting weak bc everyone is empathetic and how we need to cut it out of society. But of course he's a billionaire so he's gotta be right
Yeah, bullshit. You can have complete lack of empathy and choose not to do things that are evil. It may make acting out impulses more likely, but alone it is utterly inadequate.
The inability or unwillingness to think and to distinguish between right and wrong, between good and evil, requires a lack of empathy in order to become a willing tool of evil.
Who has empathy that commits evil? I guess you gotta define what you think 'evil' is. A poor single father robbing a store to get baby formula isn't exactly the same kind of evil we're talking about.
You really don't need to define what evil is very carefully unless you're arguing that nobody without empathy can ever understand reasons why not to commit acts society has branded as evil, and come to a decision not to do them. Similarly why people who do not let their racist or murderous impulses out for reasons other than risk of punishment. The problem is not the lack of capacity, or particular impulses. It is the act.
The capacity to understand an act is what precedes any act, however. You will walk into traffic if you do not have any concept of self-preservation. And the post is talking specifically about Nazi-level antihuman evil, not mere moral compromises.
They also think being woke is a bad thing... Being *informed* about systemic, racial and social inequalities... Like okay, we know where MAGATs stand on racial equality, yes. But they take it one step further by saying that simply being informed about the topic is also a bad thing. The morons are literally denouncing intelligence (once again) and are cheering in favor of being a dimwitted moron... FFS.
Likely a response to "toxic masculinity". "Well, if you libs are gonna take something we like and slap 'toxic' in front of it, so will we!"
They don't actually understand what you're saying when you say "toxic masculinity", they're just appropriating the language to use for their own purposes. They look at it as a 'flavor enhancer' like so many of the other words they use - just sprinkle it onto anything you don't like! Same as "woke" and "socialism" and "communism".
That's the same short cut "we don't want you to think about what it actually means" BS that gave rise to "anti-abortion". The opposite of that is therefore pro-abortion and thus you're evil because you want to kill babies when it is actually more like "how about we all keep our noses out of other people's business and leave the decisions to the people who are pregnant and their doctor".
Funny how the catchy sound bites always win over thinking and reason.
on TV, the local news reporter was asking Republicans to define Communism & Socialism & every one was actually defining capitalism, & I sprayed Pepsi out of my nose from laughing at them so hard!
the thing was, yes, Bush jr. was dumb, BUT: he knew that he was dumb, he admitted that he was dumb, he didn't have an ego AND he could laugh at himself.
I don’t really associate with any particular party now but my parents were big republicans and I just remember as a kid watching him going “this is all it takes to be president? Omg”
Hindsight is all different of course, mostly in realizing that, as you said, he was taking ownership.
I don’t think that word is in Trump/magats vocabulary. Or if it is, I’d guess it has the word toxic in front of it 🙃
Calicoastin818
the gop republicans are sociopaths
nonickname23
Were they surprised when the leopards ate their faces?
Deadflower394857
That's not what it is. It's not that simple
michaelfire
Anti-social personality disorder- also no conscience. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/trump-nyt-ad-george-conway-pac "Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) is characterized by a profound disregard for the rights and feelings of others. Individuals with ASPD consistently violate social norms, exploit others, and lack empathy or remorse for their actions. This can manifest in various ways, including deceitfulness, impulsivity, aggression, and a reckless disregard for safety."
thinkstopthink
https://imgur.com/CoS0vZu
Safflower777
We sb seeing it again soon as 2025 trials begin. RIGHT?????
SteveTheEgg
What some people don't understand is empathy is a hindrance in a capitalist society. People literally cannot afford to be empathetic because they have enough problems trying to make ends meet..
beerkrump
🍊💩🤡 never had a dog.
JaneAirfryer
So my boss really IS evil...
hohohoooo
Bou77
"And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That's what sin is." "It's a lot more complicated than that-" "No. It ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts." Pterry getting it right, as usual.
Thorketil
ThanksForTheThing
TheFishFace
Did they totally lack empathy or did the only lack it for their victims? One of the defining features of genocidal regimes is the dehumanisation of their victims. We don't have empathy for non humans generally (there are obvious exceptions) so that's how it works.
ThanksForTheThing
ThanksForTheThing
https://paulwaldman.substack.com/p/conservatives-declare-war-on-empathy
mohavewolfpup
*checks notes* guilty as charged…. Love the empathy that pours out of a church towards the poor, lgbt, etc /s
ede77222
Yep, I read a quick synopsis on that book. There is no way that the woman who wrote “Toxic Empathy” is a Christian. She definitely a hateful bigoted piece of trash though
HowlingRollercoaster2
https://valentine-wiggin.medium.com/do-not-commit-the-sin-of-empathy-7af44b2b8d57
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
TOTAL COINCIDENCE that the republican party consistently says empathy is a weakness.... TOTAL coincidence...
redbear1999
I just want to see the end of it when they all get tried in Denmark.
Perkunas687
Man, the way Republicans and their supporters are now purely anti- everything that makes people human (love, empathy, caring for/about each other, trust, life, happiness, and so on) is getting to the point where I'm like, they're monsters that are trying to make the rest of us monsters like them. Like a genuine kind of vampire or something. Like an infectious, hungry evil.
DejDek
They’re miserable and believe everyone should be as miserable as or more miserable than them.
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
"If I have to suffer, so does everyone else"
GreenMnM
This should always be followed by the fElon muskrats quote about how we are all getting weak bc everyone is empathetic and how we need to cut it out of society. But of course he's a billionaire so he's gotta be right
huffnpuff72
At this point Mushy is pretty much no longer human.
Yarnham1
How weird, that explains a lot of US christians and conservatives to a tee!
koyote2033
It's so ironic with the Christians too. Christ is so proud, im sure 🙄
trojanbarfare
so unbiblical
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koyote2033
... What?
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koyote2033
I think I'm just having trouble with your vernacular. Nor do i really want to get into Christian dogma today.
SithElephant
Yeah, bullshit. You can have complete lack of empathy and choose not to do things that are evil. It may make acting out impulses more likely, but alone it is utterly inadequate.
Thorketil
The inability or unwillingness to think and to distinguish between right and wrong, between good and evil, requires a lack of empathy in order to become a willing tool of evil.
BrokenAnimal
“Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things.” — Terry Pratchett
Yarnham1
Who has had no empathy yet chooses not to do evil acts? You mean people who act a good way only b/c they fear retaliation for the bad?
coderay
Lack of empathy may not CAUSE evil, but it is a requirement.
newsguycraigevans
Well said
SithElephant
I disagree. A whole lot of evil is done by people who have empathy, but have been convinced or chosen to limit that to only some people.
Yarnham1
Who has empathy that commits evil? I guess you gotta define what you think 'evil' is. A poor single father robbing a store to get baby formula isn't exactly the same kind of evil we're talking about.
SithElephant
You really don't need to define what evil is very carefully unless you're arguing that nobody without empathy can ever understand reasons why not to commit acts society has branded as evil, and come to a decision not to do them. Similarly why people who do not let their racist or murderous impulses out for reasons other than risk of punishment. The problem is not the lack of capacity, or particular impulses. It is the act.
Yarnham1
The capacity to understand an act is what precedes any act, however. You will walk into traffic if you do not have any concept of self-preservation. And the post is talking specifically about Nazi-level antihuman evil, not mere moral compromises.
ede77222
Republicans are now calling it toxic empathy as if empathy is a bad thing. That’s some sad ass shit right there
mjperk
They also think being woke is a bad thing... Being *informed* about systemic, racial and social inequalities... Like okay, we know where MAGATs stand on racial equality, yes. But they take it one step further by saying that simply being informed about the topic is also a bad thing. The morons are literally denouncing intelligence (once again) and are cheering in favor of being a dimwitted moron... FFS.
TsukariYoshi
Likely a response to "toxic masculinity". "Well, if you libs are gonna take something we like and slap 'toxic' in front of it, so will we!"
They don't actually understand what you're saying when you say "toxic masculinity", they're just appropriating the language to use for their own purposes. They look at it as a 'flavor enhancer' like so many of the other words they use - just sprinkle it onto anything you don't like! Same as "woke" and "socialism" and "communism".
littleblueengine
That's the same short cut "we don't want you to think about what it actually means" BS that gave rise to "anti-abortion". The opposite of that is therefore pro-abortion and thus you're evil because you want to kill babies when it is actually more like "how about we all keep our noses out of other people's business and leave the decisions to the people who are pregnant and their doctor".
Funny how the catchy sound bites always win over thinking and reason.
alittleglassvial
Hahaha oh god “toxic empathy” are you for real
IGotTheMusicInMe425
That's the name of my anarchist punk band lmao
bigk001
on TV, the local news reporter was asking Republicans to define Communism & Socialism & every one was actually defining capitalism, & I sprayed Pepsi out of my nose from laughing at them so hard!
bigk001
10 years ago, I said "The Right cannot get stupider." & ... they prove me wrong every day... & I don't know how they do it?? AND they top themselves.
alittleglassvial
Remember when bush jr talking felt like their stupidest front?
bigk001
of course, now even Dems like Bush jr.
the thing was, yes, Bush jr. was dumb, BUT: he knew that he was dumb, he admitted that he was dumb, he didn't have an ego AND he could laugh at himself.
Trump cannot.
alittleglassvial
I don’t really associate with any particular party now but my parents were big republicans and I just remember as a kid watching him going “this is all it takes to be president? Omg”
Hindsight is all different of course, mostly in realizing that, as you said, he was taking ownership.
I don’t think that word is in Trump/magats vocabulary. Or if it is, I’d guess it has the word toxic in front of it 🙃