It won't last. They'll take advantage of the current crop of high-debt young men, but after that, they'll remember that it's generally a bad idea to have your jackbooted thugs educated to any meaningful degree. Hell, the G.I. Bill is very likely the only reason they couldn't arrange a real military coup on Jan. 6th...
How about people with brains applying for ICE jobs, getting all the benefits but at the same time being extremely inept at apprehending people? Two flies and all that.
I was thinking this. Except instead of "quit" I was thinking "quietly sabotage as much as possible, while making it look like you're doing a good job, for as long as possible until they find you out and fire/murder you"
I remember my son getting screwed out of college when he left the military (they dragged out approval until he gave up). I'm expecting more of the same.
I wonder what the contracts look like. If I get fired after training, do I keep the money and not need to be an evil POS? We should all sign up and quit.
This really makes it obvious that ICE recruiting is way under what Nazis like Miller want them to be to cary out their forced relocation (some call it genocide, which is one of its definitions) of non-white people.
Honestly, keep harassing ICE agents wherever you see them. It's working.
Kids don't have any short term profitability. And those that don't undergo a decent education are willing to take lower wages as adults and are more willing to join the military. That's why they want to put them to work in agriculture during the summer, as stated by the head of agriculture. What is this, the early 19th century? Goddamn. And it's probably more dangerous to be a teacher, what with the weekly school shootings.
That was my first thought. Get rid of the student loans and do everything possible to fuck up ICE from within. But they'll surely have a 90 day or even six month waiting period before it goes into effect and I'd absolutely get fired for fucking things up well before then. Also it's Trump - even if you do everything right, they'll find a way to renege instead of paying.
Y'know what though, think about this: the kind of people who want to do this job are the kind of people you want out of your society. And he's just gathering them together. Without guns for the most part. I mean....
This has been the deal for the military for idk how long (more or less) and its a deal I took in 2013. They are trying to poach those that would've enlisted instead.
They do not give up to $50k sign on bonus to pay off most of your drop out loans while offering a payment plan for being a government employee to forgive the rest.
Generally true when it comes to dropping out. They do have loan forgiveness opportunities though as well as a variety of additional benefits (much more than ICE is offering) but the point stands that they are imitating recruitment strategies (speaking as an Army vet that landed a job at the VA after)
They are not imitating anything. Nowhere else is giving you up to a $50k sign on bonus for an entry level job. As for the rest of your comment, READ the comments you respond to.
The military does offer that.. not to everyone and may depend on the timing and level of necessity but it is and has been offered and available at 18 years old..
Partially true. PSLF is still being processed but IDR forgiveness has been put on hold so they can hit borrowers with tax bombs when the tax-free deadline expires at the end of 2025. Really fucked up.
I'm sure Trump thinks he's intimidating people by pretending the DEpt of Ed doesn't exist. He's not. He just looks like a fool. But who am I to say. I'm sure those people who voted for him are going to be pretty upset when we can't afford to pay teachers and school is half a day long. No more "daycare". You've gotta work? Oh well.
They're also giving vouchers for private schools to the wealthy. Saying they're helping because they have vouchers at all but giving them to the people who need it the least.
I thought the current loan issue is in regards to the government not discharging loans through income based repayment plans during the litigation hold when they should have. A hasty search doesn't show major concern about TLF (but i would happily be proven wrong). Also, the post does frame it as if TLF and PSLF aren't already things. Or at the least, it is knowingly ignoring existing loan forgiveness to make it sound worse that ICE would get it. Which ICE shouldn't, to clarify.
The post is outlining the bonus that was discussed 3 comments ago. The fact that they are trying to frame this as a ten year career choice to pay off what loans remain is also an issue. They are brown shirts. This is offering something not available to others in order to entice citizens to disregard the constitution.
F*CK it man, new plan, sign up to be an ICE agent, get a fat cheque, loan forgiveness, a dartboard, and intel on ICE raids to leak then make them fire you for incompetence. The perfect crime.
Well after America falls into depression, these guys can go to school and learn about their atrocities gets PTSD then not get any help and commit suicide
DwaneDibbley
Join gestapo for privileges. Hitlers handbook.
or0b0ur0s
It won't last. They'll take advantage of the current crop of high-debt young men, but after that, they'll remember that it's generally a bad idea to have your jackbooted thugs educated to any meaningful degree. Hell, the G.I. Bill is very likely the only reason they couldn't arrange a real military coup on Jan. 6th...
NudesDicksAssesBoobs
How about people with brains applying for ICE jobs, getting all the benefits but at the same time being extremely inept at apprehending people? Two flies and all that.
Zezustammany231
Join it, get your loans forgiven and then fuck shit up at ICE. And then quit.
tesseract4d2
I was thinking this. Except instead of "quit" I was thinking "quietly sabotage as much as possible, while making it look like you're doing a good job, for as long as possible until they find you out and fire/murder you"
ToSisPoS
Oh gee a paramilitary force personally loyal to a head of state.
But thank god we stopped the Gaza Genocide by not voting against him.
AgathaHarkness
I remember my son getting screwed out of college when he left the military (they dragged out approval until he gave up). I'm expecting more of the same.
Rascael
Democrats need to sue just like Republicans did to Biden,
brainkandle1
Agreed.
MySushi
The courts are irrelevant under fascism. Everything is a joke. Burn it all down and start over from scratch
sideeyehussle
He’s creating his own loyal army. I’ve heard they also get $30k bonus for the raids.
myppburns
Yea. They are getting PAID. Worst scum on the planet. Be a shame if they actually had some resistance
BestUsernameYouHaveEverSeen
I wonder what the contracts look like. If I get fired after training, do I keep the money and not need to be an evil POS? We should all sign up and quit.
SciFiGuy2018
I would join ICE and then leak every bit of information about them...I would doxx their asses
OhIfIMust
Heh, I wonder if some clever folks find ways to game this, and wind up hindering ICE while taking their cash.
SacrificialClam
Trump posters!? Sign me right tf up
Rainbowdaesh
This really makes it obvious that ICE recruiting is way under what Nazis like Miller want them to be to cary out their forced relocation (some call it genocide, which is one of its definitions) of non-white people.
Honestly, keep harassing ICE agents wherever you see them. It's working.
Plifplafpluff
Release the files
kriswinters
But it's too ExpENsIVe for teachers.
VaultGirl69
Kids don't have any short term profitability. And those that don't undergo a decent education are willing to take lower wages as adults and are more willing to join the military. That's why they want to put them to work in agriculture during the summer, as stated by the head of agriculture. What is this, the early 19th century? Goddamn. And it's probably more dangerous to be a teacher, what with the weekly school shootings.
CronShawsby
WHY WONT TRUMP DIE?!
RigelKent
Not to take away from this shitshow, but any public service employee can have their student loans forgiven under PSLF.
haIucid
Plus there’s a $30,000 bonus for kidnaping a certain quota of brown people. All paid for by you and me.
DaddyDune
Not me - the American Tax payer!
haIucid
You lucky foreigner you
LogicalLimes
Shout out to @op for scribbling out the X social button. 😀
LogicalLimes
Also, this is shit. WTF America?
Sinasohn
Okay, so join up, get your student loans forgiven, and be absolute shit at being an ICE agent. win-win.
sehven
That was my first thought. Get rid of the student loans and do everything possible to fuck up ICE from within. But they'll surely have a 90 day or even six month waiting period before it goes into effect and I'd absolutely get fired for fucking things up well before then. Also it's Trump - even if you do everything right, they'll find a way to renege instead of paying.
OmarAlHadeen
If you're required to go on a raid, accidentally lock the keys in the van and then set off the car alarm.
Sayagain
"I thought this was a work from home position?"
IDownVoteJerks
Haha I was thinking this. Just slowed down and mess up anything that I’d be assigned to.
SkyHighInc
Those are the roles that go to the sons and nephews of donors
Monkeynutsjoe
Let's not be sexist, I've seen more than a few ICE agents that were female.
straha242
Yah, that's how you get a goon squad loyal to you personally. All that will be painted as coming from him, not from the taxpayers.
Strategicgnomer
Y'know what though, think about this: the kind of people who want to do this job are the kind of people you want out of your society. And he's just gathering them together. Without guns for the most part. I mean....
pinkguyismyhero
They're trained to ignore/hurt people for a reason then when they're used to do it, you can have them hurt people for any reason.
ImTired2
This has been the deal for the military for idk how long (more or less) and its a deal I took in 2013. They are trying to poach those that would've enlisted instead.
THISISYELLING
They do not give up to $50k sign on bonus to pay off most of your drop out loans while offering a payment plan for being a government employee to forgive the rest.
ImTired2
Generally true when it comes to dropping out. They do have loan forgiveness opportunities though as well as a variety of additional benefits (much more than ICE is offering) but the point stands that they are imitating recruitment strategies (speaking as an Army vet that landed a job at the VA after)
THISISYELLING
They are not imitating anything. Nowhere else is giving you up to a $50k sign on bonus for an entry level job. As for the rest of your comment, READ the comments you respond to.
ImTired2
The military does offer that.. not to everyone and may depend on the timing and level of necessity but it is and has been offered and available at 18 years old..
THISISYELLING
“It has offered similar and might do it again” is not the same as offering it now.
Your excuse falls apart when the military is NOT currently offering that but the brown shirts are. Sit down, champ.
KilroyLichking
jokes on them department of edu is so fed up right now no ones loans are being forgiven
victell
Partially true. PSLF is still being processed but IDR forgiveness has been put on hold so they can hit borrowers with tax bombs when the tax-free deadline expires at the end of 2025. Really fucked up.
atrielienz
What department of education? *Debo stare intensifies*
KilroyLichking
it has a building... but that is about it right now
atrielienz
I'm sure Trump thinks he's intimidating people by pretending the DEpt of Ed doesn't exist. He's not. He just looks like a fool. But who am I to say. I'm sure those people who voted for him are going to be pretty upset when we can't afford to pay teachers and school is half a day long. No more "daycare". You've gotta work? Oh well.
KilroyLichking
um they want child labor to come back....
atrielienz
Lol. They don't. They just think they do.
GenesisNynja
He is building a private army of loyal thugs. ICE is just a cover.
EstellaOsoka
Sign up. Do your job as poorly as possible until they pay off your student loan. Quit and then leak all their secrets.
taez555
ICE agents have student loans? That's like giving loan forgiveness to single mothers who are also virgins.
wannasee
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZGJpc2hsamg5ZzB6OWZhM2hxamQ0a3oyeDRwazdubXU2MG45bW0xdSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/CoDp6NnSmItoY/200w.webp
XEndeadX
That's just asking to create new religions.
Junktrunkjunkie
Way to call out my Asexual sister with her 3 adopted kids
BenderRodriguz1010
They're also giving vouchers for private schools to the wealthy. Saying they're helping because they have vouchers at all but giving them to the people who need it the least.
taez555
I'm sure they'll cut our social security next to pay for it.
illogicbomb
There s already loan forgiveness for teachers https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/teacher
THISISYELLING
And hundreds of thousands are suing the government for not actually following through with that plan.
SirSage
I thought the current loan issue is in regards to the government not discharging loans through income based repayment plans during the litigation hold when they should have. A hasty search doesn't show major concern about TLF (but i would happily be proven wrong). Also, the post does frame it as if TLF and PSLF aren't already things. Or at the least, it is knowingly ignoring existing loan forgiveness to make it sound worse that ICE would get it. Which ICE shouldn't, to clarify.
THISISYELLING
The post is outlining the bonus that was discussed 3 comments ago. The fact that they are trying to frame this as a ten year career choice to pay off what loans remain is also an issue. They are brown shirts. This is offering something not available to others in order to entice citizens to disregard the constitution.
Johwin
Like anybody who works for ICE went to college
iMakeFakeLegs
This! Lol
azazyel
IIRC a lot of student loans are for people who never finished their degree
phisteen
I paid $70,000 for not a degree
ToenailClippingsJar
But… there’s posters!
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
I guess you would be surprised to learn there are "christian" colleges.
doctorId
sleepinggreenidea
Not the doorkickers, no, but there are other jobs that are needed to make the gulag work.
hellodarknessmyoldweasel
Gas chamber operator, mass grave digger…
NKato
Pencil pushing motherfuckers, is what I call them.
teberoth
F*CK it man, new plan, sign up to be an ICE agent, get a fat cheque, loan forgiveness, a dartboard, and intel on ICE raids to leak then make them fire you for incompetence. The perfect crime.
sidewayCitizen
Infiltrate and dismantle. Do what they did to our government.
FrozenCoast
Start arresting other ICE agents for deportation.
ItsMeFromTheFuture
And start doxxing the fick out of those masked cowards.
Wheee12
Ya know, keep an air tag in your pocket... that could be amazing
Magnar1183
Are there Android versions of Air Tags?
Wheee12
Yep, no idea what they are called, honestly never used one of either brand.
Ttoften
Well after America falls into depression, these guys can go to school and learn about their atrocities gets PTSD then not get any help and commit suicide
wadatahmydamie
Right? Every both of them will be thrilled
Imfamousdante
Likeanybody who works for ICE understands "forgiveness."
DiracsDelta
That’s how they get someone who did go to college to abandon their principles and work for ICE
digitreal
Offer something that no one will need to use, gift keeps grifting.
Vungor
Offer them more college to not take?
Fightdisinfo
I'd start recommending ppl go work for ice to let plenty of asylum seekers slip loose. Get all the benefits n help from the inside