Probably not what anyone is hoping it means... more likely how conservatives always like to pretend they are being oppressed by the universe and that even saying "have a nice day" is a tyrannical order of some sort. MAGA crybabies love to trumpet the rhetoric they are oppressed, slaves of some imaginary woke conspiracy to usurp their freedom. I'll believe our armed forces actually care about the constitution when they are no longer under the control of Nazi sympathizers and fascist MAGAists.
Your giving people credit with out know if they planned this as they think they are over throwing the democratic regime for an authoritarian one, and they think they are justified.
I have to assume this was some subversive attempt by the band direction, it's just too implausible that someone involved in the arrangement was both that familiar with Les Miserables and didn't understand the context.
When the governor of Maine was being insulted by the Rapist In The Whitehouse, not one governor stood up for her. Not one. When Diaper Don threatened to take federal funds from states, not one governor stood up for their state. Not one. We need to remember what is done in our names.
I remember that my granddad got on a ship and spent months in europe finding and shooting every fascist they could find. You know, the good old days....
I’ve replayed that so many times in my mind. Just one person saying “you’re not a king”… or “my state will not follow this either”… Disappointed in Tina Kotek.
They’re still being blindsided by the Right’s zero fucks about decorum. They’re taking too long to switch gears. “If I sit here politely, I’ll lead by example”. Too late for that, mate. Time for Donna Martin Graduates!!
Generally, yeah. They have this idea that composure and decorum will win the day when it hasn't for 3 fucking decades straight. NO ONE IS THERE TO ENFORCE THE RULES. It's like they're waiting for the higher authority to met punishment, but there IS no higher authority. it's them, and they're abdicating that authority with reckless abandon to literal fascists. Thank god we're not as small as Germany or it really would be the Weimar republic all over again
"(Governor of RI) McKee told The Providence Journal during an end-of-day telephone interview that Gov. Janet Mills, a former Maine attorney general, didn't need anyone rising to her defense, saying she "knows how to take care of herself.""
while wonderfully sentimental and a catchy song the people of France very much continued to be salves of the monarchy more or less until 1870 as they believed that napoleons cousin when he said he would only be president of the second republic for 1 term. i mean why appoint anyone with the last name of Bonaparte to power... Checks notes... he was in monarchist exile in England but wrote several letters in support of the republic
and gave the assembly the impression that he would "be lead by the nose" of the assembly during his term. He proposed universal male suffrage to allow all men to vote garnering him 71% national popular support while the Orlean faction in the assembly moved to dissolve the universal male suffrage law and refused to amend the 1 term law. Bonipart then used his popularity to rally the military to take Paris. IRONICLY Victor Hugo (who was a member of the assembly) led a small
insurrection of his own against this move. He and assembly supporters took over several districts but of Paris for a day but were forcibly removed by the army 200 were killed.
Fun fact: Back in the 1980s, the US Army Band had a bigger budget than the entire US Peace Corps (but the Peace Corps could make a pejibaye casserole to spice up a fiesta).
They do, but what they think the song means and what it actually means are the exact opposite. Keep letting them think rebellious songs are about them, so you can still get the message out to the people.
Eh, could go either way. They always painted themselves as the silent majority, the people rising up against the 'tyranny' of the 'woke mob.' So it's as likely to be a subtle jab as it is a celebration.
Do you hear the people sing? Lost in the valley of the night It is the music of a people who are climbing to the light For the wretched of the earth There is a flame that never dies Even the darkest nights will end and the sun will rise
They will live again in freedom in the garden of the lord They will walk behind the ploughshare They will put away the sword The chain will be broken and all men will have their reward!
...Will you join in our crusade? Who will be strong and stand with me? Somewhere beyond the barricade is there a world you long to see? Do you hear the people sing? Say, do you hear the distant drums? It is the future that they bring when tomorrow comes! One Day More!
So, in fairness, this is the reprise version near the end sung by all those who had died previously. So the lyrics are a bit different.
It looks like the version they sang was the pre-barricades “we are going to rise up and fuck y’all up” version, which hits a bit different.
This is one of the few subjects where my nerd side comes out because I grew up watching the 10th anni version and basically have that one memorized word for word. 😅
The people attending the ball are the same people who play Fortunate Son at Trump rallies. I just don't think they have the mental capacity to get it, unless (I'm going to guess a non-conservative) tells it straight to their face.
I was raised in a very conservative household and I can tell you I didn't even START learning any kind of media literacy until I was well into my 20s. It's something I still struggle with today in my 40s. My parents are both bright, well educated people, but the ability to analyze the content of the media they consume beyond face value at all is simply not something they do.
Remember when they used to play 'born in the USA' at presidential rallies. Reagan and Buchanan did it. It's almost like Conservatives lack introspection.
Politics has always had a place in music. That is why countries have national anthems, why music was played on battlefields, and why songs get banned. Music brings people together and ignites a fire in them. In South Africa listening to Sixto Rodriguez's music became an act of defiance because the apartheid government banned it. Even though the ban was because of the references to drugs and not a political message, the act of ignoring the ban was a way to defy the government.
Greater context, Les Misérables is about the June rebellion of 1832 in which a secret society of ~3000 Parisian republicans (ie for the republic of France instead of the bourbons or the Bonapartists) took control of the central district of Paris for 2 days. 40000 regular army and 20000 militia killed 800 insurgences and took the rest prisoner. it would not be until 1848 that the monarchy would be overthrown. and even then the second republic would be short lived.
The congress elected Louis-Napoleon Bonaparte as the president and restricted him to a single term. He overthrew the republic in 1851 and declared himself Emperor Napoleon III. France would stay an absolute monarchy until 1870
1870/71 in turn also provides us with the Paris commune, itself an interesting experiment in how (not) to run a revolution.
Also an example of pro-status quo cross-country collaboration when the freshly-minted Germans did the french government a favor of keeping the communards contained.
French history is littered with this sort of thing. its crazy im like how do you keep making the same mistakes of rebelling against and successfully overthrow the monarchy only to immediately elect another monarch were they drunk... oh wait it was France so probably
CallMeMcGyver
Probably not what anyone is hoping it means... more likely how conservatives always like to pretend they are being oppressed by the universe and that even saying "have a nice day" is a tyrannical order of some sort. MAGA crybabies love to trumpet the rhetoric they are oppressed, slaves of some imaginary woke conspiracy to usurp their freedom. I'll believe our armed forces actually care about the constitution when they are no longer under the control of Nazi sympathizers and fascist MAGAists.
Kittensandyarns
(If only they could read.... )
dmcnama5
Who did they think they were singing to? Pffft. This is nothing. Take a page out of the book of the Ray Conniff singers when they performed for Nixon. Now THAT’s badass: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=98nhA0JlXII&pp=ygUYUmF5IGNvbm5pZmYgYWluZ2VyIG5peG9u
glovelyday
Heads will roll...let's just hope it's the ones that truly deserve it.
Blackfinity
The time has passed for mere trolling...
thiscantbtaken
Stop posting shit from Twitter!
LivingDeadX
Fairly certain that Trump and his ilk truly believe that they are said resistance, and that this song represents them.
jimell10tt
Your giving people credit with out know if they planned this as they think they are over throwing the democratic regime for an authoritarian one, and they think they are justified.
murderonamonkey
I guess. Personally I'd perfer the miltiary to do less singing and take back the democrazy. Guns. yanno
psuedon
video sauce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ1J0HCZS74
Like2Fox
It's not trolling at all
rudiboy2000
They haven’t got a clue 😂😂😂
iguessihaveto
The followup to Do You Hear the People Sing is Empty Chairs at Empty Tables. I don't have a point there, just tired and scared.
PunnyTiger
the people that it's directed at are too stupid and uneducated to get it even if it was explained to them
certainlynotaserialkiller
Fun history fact: the hindenburg only had a swastika on one side and the captain flew circles counterclockwise so people below could not see it.
6thsigma
I have to assume this was some subversive attempt by the band direction, it's just too implausible that someone involved in the arrangement was both that familiar with Les Miserables and didn't understand the context.
thatsawhiteceiling
3/1/25: Trump fires the army.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
When was this?
Zahnradfee
Asking the right questions! ... @OP From when is that picture?
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Looks like it was Saturday https://www.inquirer.com/news/nation-world/trump-governors-ball-2025-les-miserables-20250224.html
Zahnradfee
Thanks.
UncleRat
When the governor of Maine was being insulted by the Rapist In The Whitehouse, not one governor stood up for her. Not one. When Diaper Don threatened to take federal funds from states, not one governor stood up for their state. Not one. We need to remember what is done in our names.
WigglyBlondeNoodle
I want to believe that at least some of the blue states are coordinating next steps together but honestly I think I look pretty naive typing that out.
kudzoo
Maine stood up
certainlynotaserialkiller
I remember that my granddad got on a ship and spent months in europe finding and shooting every fascist they could find. You know, the good old days....
HillOfBeans
I’ve replayed that so many times in my mind. Just one person saying “you’re not a king”… or “my state will not follow this either”… Disappointed in Tina Kotek.
xj4low
I guess the republicans aren't about smaller government and states rights after all.
putzd63304
Never were.
xj4low
Kind of like the party of family values, Christian values, police and military support.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
They’re still being blindsided by the Right’s zero fucks about decorum. They’re taking too long to switch gears. “If I sit here politely, I’ll lead by example”. Too late for that, mate. Time for Donna Martin Graduates!!
Barantor
They've also got folks telling them to just wait and let the Republicans explode... any day now... just wait any day... any day....
The only people who will pay the price for this is the people, not any of them. We have incompetent leadership at a lot of levels right now.
netutoring
Are these the same people who reassured us all that Trump would be in jail before we had to worry about the election?
wabitgirl
Generally, yeah. They have this idea that composure and decorum will win the day when it hasn't for 3 fucking decades straight. NO ONE IS THERE TO ENFORCE THE RULES. It's like they're waiting for the higher authority to met punishment, but there IS no higher authority. it's them, and they're abdicating that authority with reckless abandon to literal fascists. Thank god we're not as small as Germany or it really would be the Weimar republic all over again
jimell10tt
Ah Illinois certainly did.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
Yah that’s my governor!! We love him.
LuminoZero
"(Governor of RI) McKee told The Providence Journal during an end-of-day telephone interview that Gov. Janet Mills, a former Maine attorney general, didn't need anyone rising to her defense, saying she "knows how to take care of herself.""
Sounds like an excuse for cowardice to me.
taez555
Do you hear the people sing, singing the song of angry men, this is the music of a people who will not be slaves again.
vurcease
Okayyy so you get the unique award of "first comment to give me goosebumps". In the context of... all this. Whew. These times we're living in.
sevenfingerman
When the beta of your heart echoes the beating of our drums
KilroyLichking
while wonderfully sentimental and a catchy song the people of France very much continued to be salves of the monarchy more or less until 1870 as they believed that napoleons cousin when he said he would only be president of the second republic for 1 term. i mean why appoint anyone with the last name of Bonaparte to power... Checks notes... he was in monarchist exile in England but wrote several letters in support of the republic
KilroyLichking
and gave the assembly the impression that he would "be lead by the nose" of the assembly during his term. He proposed universal male suffrage to allow all men to vote garnering him 71% national popular support while the Orlean faction in the assembly moved to dissolve the universal male suffrage law and refused to amend the 1 term law. Bonipart then used his popularity to rally the military to take Paris. IRONICLY Victor Hugo (who was a member of the assembly) led a small
KilroyLichking
insurrection of his own against this move. He and assembly supporters took over several districts but of Paris for a day but were forcibly removed by the army 200 were killed.
GreyKnightTemplar666
Yeah, unless the people putting on the show think the people that are rising up are the Nazis they serve...
Rendova
Fun fact: Back in the 1980s, the US Army Band had a bigger budget than the entire US Peace Corps (but the Peace Corps could make a pejibaye casserole to spice up a fiesta).
RayneOfSalt
"Epilogue" song? Has the person who uploaded that never seen Les Mis?
jtwood
Are we sure they don’t see themselves as the oppressed rebellion???
Tarrybelle
They do, but what they think the song means and what it actually means are the exact opposite. Keep letting them think rebellious songs are about them, so you can still get the message out to the people.
TheobromineAddict
They almost certainly do. "Warriors against the Woke", in their unwrinkled brains.
Frostycopper
That's my thought too, unfortunately. I think trumpers and non trumpers are seeing this message and both claiming it's them.
defensivebackhair
Sorry to be that person, but there was no indication that this was directed TO him. It could easily have been FOR him. One thing to notice was that he didn't make comments in xhitter. He also had this sang at a rally in 2016... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/19/donald-trump-upsets-les-miserables-song-rally-cameron-mackintosh
sgnight13
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
Eh, could go either way. They always painted themselves as the silent majority, the people rising up against the 'tyranny' of the 'woke mob.' So it's as likely to be a subtle jab as it is a celebration.
cenfou2tout
Even if you don't know, the lyrics are explicit
Do you hear the people sing?
Lost in the valley of the night
It is the music of a people who are climbing to the light
For the wretched of the earth
There is a flame that never dies
Even the darkest nights will end and the sun will rise
They will live again in freedom in the garden of the lord
They will walk behind the ploughshare
They will put away the sword
The chain will be broken and all men will have their reward!
cenfou2tout
...Will you join in our crusade?
Who will be strong and stand with me?
Somewhere beyond the barricade is there a world you long to see?
Do you hear the people sing?
Say, do you hear the distant drums?
It is the future that they bring when tomorrow comes!
One Day More!
Hammerwell
Might as well sing the Battle Hymn.
BlueCoyote42
Nanoline
So, in fairness, this is the reprise version near the end sung by all those who had died previously. So the lyrics are a bit different.
It looks like the version they sang was the pre-barricades “we are going to rise up and fuck y’all up” version, which hits a bit different.
This is one of the few subjects where my nerd side comes out because I grew up watching the 10th anni version and basically have that one memorized word for word. 😅
INeverWaitForIt
The people attending the ball are the same people who play Fortunate Son at Trump rallies. I just don't think they have the mental capacity to get it, unless (I'm going to guess a non-conservative) tells it straight to their face.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
It gets worse than Fortunate Son... (unmute)
GordonShumway42
Wearing a blue line flag as a cape while wobbling around to a song about police brutality is definitely a choice.
LordHelmetTheThird
Not just police brutality, about the whole white nationalism system that the police are just one part of.
johnnyhandbags
They also believe that Darth Vader is a liberal.
Madalchemist2018
Of course he is since he works for the empire and the
...conservatives are obviously the rebel rebellion.
DarkwingDuc
That's probably why it was chosen. A dog whistle. Those who need to hear it can.
MrStrigidae
I was raised in a very conservative household and I can tell you I didn't even START learning any kind of media literacy until I was well into my 20s. It's something I still struggle with today in my 40s. My parents are both bright, well educated people, but the ability to analyze the content of the media they consume beyond face value at all is simply not something they do.
PineappleLoopsBrOether
I have met people that just DO NOT UNDERSTAND how lyrics can have sad or scary meanings if the melody is fun or happy sounding….
Macewindow54
My feet are dangling off the edge!
torisenblack
🎶All the other kids with the pumped up kicks...🎶
Wafflesaur
What no capacity for irony or self reflection does to a motherfucker.
bhraal
Counterpoint: They see themselves as the oppressed ones who are now having their revolt against big government.
Unclescam
How could you say something so stupid and awful that I completely agree with?
ilikepot8os
Remember when they used to play 'born in the USA' at presidential rallies. Reagan and Buchanan did it. It's almost like Conservatives lack introspection.
Deathcameawienering
Then we MAKE them understand, we raise this song as an Battle hymn and shout it from the streets. This isn't a troll, this is a clarion call to rise
PostMoThoin
When did opera get sooo political? S
Tarrybelle
Politics has always had a place in music. That is why countries have national anthems, why music was played on battlefields, and why songs get banned. Music brings people together and ignites a fire in them. In South Africa listening to Sixto Rodriguez's music became an act of defiance because the apartheid government banned it. Even though the ban was because of the references to drugs and not a political message, the act of ignoring the ban was a way to defy the government.
Tarrybelle
I meant to say, including opera.
SmellingMistake
If they do understand I'm sure they would still play it as a form of mockery.
KilroyLichking
Greater context, Les Misérables is about the June rebellion of 1832 in which a secret society of ~3000 Parisian republicans (ie for the republic of France instead of the bourbons or the Bonapartists) took control of the central district of Paris for 2 days. 40000 regular army and 20000 militia killed 800 insurgences and took the rest prisoner. it would not be until 1848 that the monarchy would be overthrown. and even then the second republic would be short lived.
KilroyLichking
The congress elected Louis-Napoleon Bonaparte as the president and restricted him to a single term. He overthrew the republic in 1851 and declared himself Emperor Napoleon III. France would stay an absolute monarchy until 1870
Jyx123
1870/71 in turn also provides us with the Paris commune, itself an interesting experiment in how (not) to run a revolution.
Also an example of pro-status quo cross-country collaboration when the freshly-minted Germans did the french government a favor of keeping the communards contained.
KilroyLichking
French history is littered with this sort of thing. its crazy im like how do you keep making the same mistakes of rebelling against and successfully overthrow the monarchy only to immediately elect another monarch were they drunk... oh wait it was France so probably