For me to cut a piece of drywall like that I have to go and find a place to lay it down that's big enough for it and nice and clean and flat measure three times score it flip it over measure again score the other side and realize the two cuts are offset by a quarter of an inch so I wreck to piece
I used to deliver sheet rock and co structuring supplies. Our company was supplying a huge condo complex, we had just finished brining the rock into this one room before we broke for a 30 minute lunch.
Came back, the whole thing was sheetrocked. The walls, the ceiling. It’s not worth explaining the layout except to say that it was a lot of weird angles they would have done - lots of cuts, not an easy job.
Holy shiet. I love it when a craftsman goes to work, regardless of the discipline. That was a thing of beauty. The same work would have taken me 20+ minutes and maybe a helper (definitely a hoist otherwise). My hat's off to this man. Bravo!
I did the inside of my garage, taking my time and it took me about six hours or so. This guy would have done it in about thirty minutes I reckon. And it would have looked neater than my work as well.
As much as I love watching skilled craftsmen work, when it comes to things that are largely aesthetic rather than functional I see a lot more value in the satisfaction of doing the job yourself and gaining skills/resources/knowledge rather than paying someone else to do it.
Same goes double for functional work assuming it can be done right without undue cost/risk.
This random internet stranger is proud of you for doing the job yourself (again not intended to knock professionals)!
Thanks! There's certainly a lot of things I'll do myself. The skills are so useful in everyday life. I love when I have the time to diy as it lets me learn. I can fix so many things around the house and car that my friends have never even heard of.
Helped a friend and her teenaged daughter fix their own ceiling (gyprock not structure) when they bought a house. The mum was so happy and the kid had a lot of stories about joists and spiders to share at school lol.
You want to keep the long tapered edges that meet in a visually conspicuous zone to be as tight and clean looking as possible. If the wall isn't exactly 8 feet, any trimmed edges or gaps can go along the bottom where it'll be covered with skirting board.
More important to have it good and flush with the ceiling than with the floor where there will be a gap anyway hidden by the baseboard. So easier to start up top rather than have to measure super careful to make sure the middle seam and ceiling are tight.
See I watched that lil video and now I'm sure I could just like, finish a basement singlehandedly. I cannot stress enough how misplaced this confidence is, but I'm still convinced.
Our water main line valve was very hard to shut off/on. My plan was to not replace the defective valve but close it, place a new one and then open it up for the last time, the second one acting as our on/off valve. Watcedh a video, looks so fucking easy, go buy all the shit, place the cutter and deluge. I cut BEFORE the valve. it was winter, on a sunday, municipal services could not be reach to shut the curb stop, firefighter did it, AFTER shoveling 6 feet of snow yo reach it.
So I'm over here thinking, "I'm a casino cocktail waitress..I carry shit all day! I got this!" Our job requires lifting up to 35lb trays for 8 hours, but a sheet of drywall weighs at least 50. And we don't carry our trays like that... At least not more than once. My hubris will land me in the hospital with a blown out back and nail thru my hand.
I'm 100% sure I could do anything with that kind of technology. I would be unstoppable. I have no skills and I'm out of shape but I swear to god I would be Bob Villa if turned loose.
We actually built a lift out of 2x4s and a couple deck screws, called it the DumFuk3000 cause we were dumb fuckers for trying to hang 10' 54 wide type X on a fukin ceiling with no real knowledge of what we were getting into. But we got it done! Lots of cursing and mud later, we have a ceiling in the kitchen.
That's the carpenter's job, not his. But to answer your question, most places in the US don't require it for non-load bearing, interior walls. If that shocks you, I will refrain from telling you some of the stories that I've seen in subdivision construction.
Stupid question, probably...are all,or most of the houses in America built with this kind of material? It looks like that doesn't give so much isolation concerning noises from one room to the other...as a Portuguese, and living in the Netherlands,that always have lived on houses built with bricks or stone ( my grandparents house was built with a very large block of stones). How durable is this kind of material? Sorry for my silly question.
My mom is a very sweet 80 year old lady, with heart problems, diabetic, reumatic, and a bunch of other medical problems and a war survivor...so what's your point?
Yes, this is normal. The sound isolation is better than you'd think (drywall on both sides with dead air between), you might be able to tell someone is having a conversation on the other side but you won't be able to understand it without pressing your ear to the wall, and maybe not then. Durability: you can make a hole with a hammer easily, but it stands up to most accidental impacts, and it's easy to repair.
We do use drywall in Europe as well, but it is a lot thicker than the one found in the US, so it does have better sound insulating properties as well you cannot punch a hole through it without breaking your hand.
Didn't know that... I don't think that in the Netherlands they have it... even the new buildings are built to integrate the area and architecture of the city and villages. Even most of the buildings are not very high... but maybe I'm wrong. I'm not a Diy person but I love to watch the house flips programs.
If it's similar to Germany (and I'd assume it is), as far as I know most of the interior / non-load-bearing walls are made out of plasterboard, at least in newer buildings. I may be wrong, though.
This material is called drywall, but more specifically, gypsum board. It's crushed stone with a few propriatary glues bonded between sheets of paper. The stone has miniscule pockets of variable materials, air, glues, some stones, etc, so the soundproofing is actually pretty decent. It's significantly lighter than comparable lathe and plaster walls, which was our old way of doing wood framed houses, and allows for easier access to the space between the studs for pipes and wires.
It's actually super easy to patch, but the panels themselves can't be 'repaired' on site like a rebuild or anything. But if you have a hole or damage, you just cut that section out and put a new section in, the section can be as small as the hole or as large as the entire sheet depending on what you did. You use a paper 'tape' and mud to seam it, and a quality crew can make this shit look as seamless as a sheet of paper across an entire room. DIY, we usually get some wobbles.
Two layers isn't required unless you're putting non-fire rated drywall in a fire room like the kitchen. Some places do it as a quick fix to damage, easier to slap up a new layer than fix all the bad behind it or remove the old. But I wouldn't go so far as to say 'usually', more like sometimes.
It's cheaper and much easier to make structural or utility changes to (running new electrical, plumbing, etc.) than solid masonry, but yeah it's lighter and hollow so it's not nearly as soundproof, or as secure from fire, tornadoes, flooding, etc.
I've done plenty of drywall, just as I said. The AC isn't running because no one wants that dust in the system. We sweat too much, the masks clog up in seconds. I would tie my shirt over my face sometimes. I did it just as I said, and my most recent MRI shows my lungs are perfectly healthy. What worried me is when I installed above-ground pools and had to pour the silica filter media into the filters. That is the fine kind of dust that never leaves your body. I just held my breath for that.
Really? Did you get an MRI for that or are you just another one of the millions of annoying people on the internet? Mofo doesn't even know what kind of sponge to use on corners wants to bitch about how I do my job. So fun at parties, that's you... /s
Came to the comments to say the same thing. In the UK we have to screw 300mm centres minimum. In structural applications the external edges are often 150mm or 50mm centres.
We also feature 125 year old houses with plaster walls and asbestos inside those walls! Harder to punch holes, but tastier when you get a snack for it!
Correctly living in the US: I was carrying a chair with skinny legs and tripped on my dog, the chair ended up impaled in the wall. Made me laugh manically that that can even happen
Also, the crate he stands on is used for four one gallon milk jugs, the insulation on the exterior walls is US standers R31, and the logo on his hoodie takes a simple google search.
I can't believe how long I scrolled to see this. I was impressed by the precision and other stuff, sure, but my jaw dropped when he picked it up like it was made of smoke
I find the worst part isn't so much the weight (though they are rather heavy), it's the bulkiness with no easy way to grip it. So the wildest part of this whole video for me was the confidence in which he threw it upwards and re-centered himself to carry it.
That'll be 500,000 to pay the salaries of the entire team who used their expertise to help build this thing. From the project manager, the site manager, the safety guy, the quality control guy, the plumbers, the electricians, the bricklayers, the carpenters, the kitchen fitters, the drywallers, the roofers, the window fitters, the tilers.. oh and the skilled laborers and general laborers. Oh, and can't forget the guys in the office who actually sold you the house. And then materials, permits..
Here we see the drywaller fastidiously building in his natural habitat. His haste is not out of hobby but necessity knowing upon completion a threat looms. Sadly all of his hard work will be undone in a matter of seconds when his greatest foe appears. The Kool-Aid man.
The wooden frame it's screwed on to is what has the structural strength. So no more than plaster's lack of structural strength when applied to a brick wall.
The perks of drywall are it's relatively cheap, fast and easy to install. Downsides are the walls are hollow, easily damaged and they don't reduce much sound/noise. Great for some situations, absolutely shit for most others. Like with pretty much any alternative.
In some countries, even drywall has a bit more structural strength. https://forstconsultingllc.com/blog">tion/">https://forstconsultingllc.com/blog/european-vs-american-home-construction/ https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sB-P8HnkvKo
They’re responding to the commenter saying that drywall (sheetrock) in other countries has more structural strength and then showing a video where drywall isn’t even used in the “other” country.
Though I know it's meant as a joke, only someone who has never done it before would call it unskilled labor. This would take many times longer for the unskilled to do and the finishing can easily show defects through the paint if done wrong
"It took you half a day! Why are you charging so much?" You're paying for the decade-plus of experience to get it down to half a day from a week with twice as much material.
Unskilled implies no skill. We shouldn’t use such a misnomer to refer to something that obviously necessitates skill to do well. Misnomers are dangerously confusing—especially to an uneducated population.
Sure. And in some time, people will complain about this exact thing, claiming that certification-less is demeaning, and that we should call it something else.
Language evolves, but everything stays the same. It's literally the exact same thing as why all the old words for mentally disabled are seen as swears or slurs today.
It is not so much about whether it is demeaning but that unskilled is ambiguous. While it is also used as meaning not requiring or lacking certification, it mainly means lacking or not requiring skill.
One of the wisest thing I’ve ever heard: “When a guy who’s been doing something for 15 years comes over and does the job in 10 minutes, you’re paying for the 15 years, not the 10 minutes.” That totally reframed how I felt about paying a lot for ‘short’ jobs.
It is "neat" but you could learn this trick in about 10 minutes after doing it 2-3 times... At most from 1 day on the job. He didn't need to study for 4-10 years to do it. That is what is meant by skilled labor. I'll happily stop repeating this when people stop saying "unskilled labor" daftly. smh 🤦
You're not wrong about the semantics of "skilled labor", but it's devious to say this is performance you can learn in a day. What you see here is a lifetime of experience.
a lifetime of experience to cut some drywall... Seriously? In a hypothetical scenario I could even teach this skill to someone as out of touch as you in under a day assuming you didn't have a physical disability.
I don't think you meant wilding, but maybe some other impotently delivered slur? I've worked with drywall several times despite not making a nifty video. I'll spare you the suspense.. it's not rocket science.
My father hung drywall for many years comerically, and after helping him more than a few times with projects for family with him I can promise you that making it look that wasy takes more than a day. Learning to hang drywall is very easy, learning to do it fast and well takes a lot longer
Understood, however the point remains that it is not what is considered skilled labor for a good reason. While you have a point that making it appear easy takes practice I would point out that we also don't know how many attempts were required to give that impression in the video. Like all things online that look easy.. most likely there were many failures in the process of achieving the end result.
How is it not skilled, knowing how to read a tape measure, how to use a tape and knife to cut instead of a square, while standing and making sure you cut the right edge on the right side of the board. How to carry boards without breaking them then hang them by yourself using a screw gun, knowing where the studs land without marking them ect. All skills
You're confused by the term 'skilled labor' because it is combining two words that are common. It refers to work that requires specialized training and technical expertise usually acquired through formal education. It's not Classist, Elitist or whatever people on imgur are getting offended by.. it simply means it takes years to learn. If I can learn something and apply it that same day, no matter the elegance of the execution, then it is not 'skilled labor". Ffs
When building a house once, I asked about adding some sort if insulation, anything for sound dampening. Everyone thought I was insane. It's unheard of. You see in America the idea that you might have privacy in you own room/apartment/house is heresy.
Common inside interior walls - acoustic insulation for some rooms. Expensive. Sometimes just regular insulation or even double sheets of drywall if you want to save a buck.
Another option is staggered studs. For the same wall thickness with 2x4 plates, you use 2x3 studs instead (often closer than 16" on center) but with every other stud alternating which edge it's on. That way vibration can't travel via studs, bc any given stud is only touching one side of the wall. Can also just make the wall thicker with 2x6 plates. Also makes electrical & plumbing easier bc you can just snake wiring/PEX around each stud instead of putting holes in them. If done on exterior 1/
walls you also significantly prevent thermal bridging from studs contacting both sides of the wall, and have no gaps in the insulation. Or if you're doing on exterior, you can go for broke and just not stagger them, having a girthy as fuck wall that's essentially two normal 2x4 walls sandwiching a fuck ton of insulation 2/2
Fiberglass insulation. Interior gets less dense rolls so that the heat can dissipate a little more freely, while providing a measure of sound dampening. Without insulation the walls are resonance chambers.
Drywall/gypsum walls are very good at sound dampening on their own if there are enough studs in contact to let the sound go somewhere other than open air in the wall. Source: dad's building a studio in his garage and he has a degree in sound systems and stuff. I don't understand that part, but I do know drywall is pretty good at absorbing sound from knocking around in em while running cable for work. It doesn't ricochet if studs are where they should be. That said, cheap places don't do that :)
But yeah for a studio you'd want fiberglass insulation like the other guy said, which isn't in most interior walls usually. Dad's also hanging an isolated wall inside. They tend to be echoey in apartments and houses and terrible at insulating for neighbors. Lived in a place with one 18ft shared wall and it had maybe 2 studs. Horribly constructed place, neighbor could hear us clear as day, not other way around.
joshuasplinth
Why not do the bottom one first? Then the upper level could sit on the edge of the bottom one.
torp
Is... Is this what they call a wall in the US ???
Zetor
"Unskilled"
flexstar
thatwoodguy
For me to cut a piece of drywall like that I have to go and find a place to lay it down that's big enough for it and nice and clean and flat measure three times score it flip it over measure again score the other side and realize the two cuts are offset by a quarter of an inch so I wreck to piece
UraniumMan
That gentleman is worth every single penny, and much more, he could ever be paid for his absolutely top-notch and efficient skilled labors.
elmesito
That is someone who is not paid by the hour
yamamasyamaha
I used to deliver sheet rock and co structuring supplies. Our company was supplying a huge condo complex, we had just finished brining the rock into this one room before we broke for a 30 minute lunch.
Came back, the whole thing was sheetrocked. The walls, the ceiling. It’s not worth explaining the layout except to say that it was a lot of weird angles they would have done - lots of cuts, not an easy job.
Like 2 guys did the whole room in half an hour.
Shoutrr
i've seen quite a lot of plaster/dry wall work in europe and i don't remember seeing one put horizontally like that.
azimir
Holy shiet. I love it when a craftsman goes to work, regardless of the discipline. That was a thing of beauty. The same work would have taken me 20+ minutes and maybe a helper (definitely a hoist otherwise). My hat's off to this man. Bravo!
Bytencoder
It's all fun and games until herniated disks happen. Good luck then if it is in the US.
Quizz25S
Holy sheet
TheNLK
Just wait til you see the dudes doing this shit with stilts.
cardinal29
Mudding is my jam. Slap, slap, smooooth.
tomalt
I did the inside of my garage, taking my time and it took me about six hours or so. This guy would have done it in about thirty minutes I reckon. And it would have looked neater than my work as well.
frozenlake247
As much as I love watching skilled craftsmen work, when it comes to things that are largely aesthetic rather than functional I see a lot more value in the satisfaction of doing the job yourself and gaining skills/resources/knowledge rather than paying someone else to do it.
Same goes double for functional work assuming it can be done right without undue cost/risk.
This random internet stranger is proud of you for doing the job yourself (again not intended to knock professionals)!
tomalt
Thanks! There's certainly a lot of things I'll do myself. The skills are so useful in everyday life. I love when I have the time to diy as it lets me learn. I can fix so many things around the house and car that my friends have never even heard of.
Helped a friend and her teenaged daughter fix their own ceiling (gyprock not structure) when they bought a house. The mum was so happy and the kid had a lot of stories about joists and spiders to share at school lol.
DrGrue
Watching skilled craftsmen do their work is like competency porn
firlefranz
emarieshanks28
I'm stealing "competency porn," thank you. And I agree, from any discipline, the grace born of muscle memory is impressive.
opportunitywaster
Americans building houses from paper, surprised when a stronger wind rips it apart.
egoAristippos
He looks like he would be a target for ICE agents.
mantabloke
many many rodeos
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Billy2sweet
Why did he start at the top and not the bottom of the wall so he could have rested the top piece to make it easier?
ubnty
Because he would have had to cut in the holes for the electrical boxes first, rather than just screw it straight to the wall. That takes a bit longer.
BronyDanza
You want to keep the long tapered edges that meet in a visually conspicuous zone to be as tight and clean looking as possible. If the wall isn't exactly 8 feet, any trimmed edges or gaps can go along the bottom where it'll be covered with skirting board.
bingotown
More important to have it good and flush with the ceiling than with the floor where there will be a gap anyway hidden by the baseboard. So easier to start up top rather than have to measure super careful to make sure the middle seam and ceiling are tight.
toolzgalore2
Fuck, it is so impressive to see people who have perfected their trade
MrMarlin
No sound proofing, no insulation.
America?
DonMc
Nope
d3ltabrav00
That costs extra, even if you tell the contractor, it may be up to you to procure the supplies and install.
harbengerprime
Might be wrong, but I believe insulation is only used on exterior facing walls. I agree with the sound proofing though
poopfromabove
Why would you put insulation on an interior wall?
Goblinpunker
You wouldn't.
MrMarlin
Noise insulation. Rock wool.
You would hear a spider fart on the other side of that wall.
PerthAussieMike
Over here (Australia) we also use a stud adhesive.
tanebot
Nah, bricks.
IUpvoteLOTRMemes
So do we if you dont want your screw holes showing a week later. This is just fast cheap construction.
EasierToPrayWhenIMasturbate
And insulation
Snooj
We already know you guys are weird, no need to remind us.
Orzahn
This would take me 2 hours, 3 sheets of drywall and a lot of cursing.
fhguy2021
This would have taken me a week. One day to destroy a few sheets of drywall and six days to find a contractor and get him scheduled to start the job.
Huttulungaronk
Add one broken toe due to safety sandals.
noFAOM
Nope, after just 4 or 5 sheets you literally will be this good it is actually super easy.
ProbeGT
This would take me 2 years, 3 cubic miles of drywall and the sacrifice of all mankind to the Old Gods and I would probably still fail.
CardeasIV
*Crying
Orzahn
That too.
Pelican3
Would have taken me three hours cuz the third sheet of drywall was still at Lowe’s
thelonepig
See I watched that lil video and now I'm sure I could just like, finish a basement singlehandedly. I cannot stress enough how misplaced this confidence is, but I'm still convinced.
iChase79
Our water main line valve was very hard to shut off/on. My plan was to not replace the defective valve but close it, place a new one and then open it up for the last time, the second one acting as our on/off valve. Watcedh a video, looks so fucking easy, go buy all the shit, place the cutter and deluge. I cut BEFORE the valve. it was winter, on a sunday, municipal services could not be reach to shut the curb stop, firefighter did it, AFTER shoveling 6 feet of snow yo reach it.
thelonepig
Oh my god. See, I need stories like this to keep me in check.
FlyingDestinyTitan
You definitely can, it´s just gonna be worse on your back and it´s gonna take a lot longer because you´re not proficient
Hypothesist
Only if you have standards and quality
Genriu
I mean you probably could, but I'd recommend smaller sheets of drywall.
thelonepig
So I'm over here thinking, "I'm a casino cocktail waitress..I carry shit all day! I got this!" Our job requires lifting up to 35lb trays for 8 hours, but a sheet of drywall weighs at least 50. And we don't carry our trays like that... At least not more than once. My hubris will land me in the hospital with a blown out back and nail thru my hand.
cardinal29
Screws. Nail heads pop.
BrotherOwl
Don't diminish yourself! We've got some cool tools to help 1 person contractors get it done
thelonepig
I'm 100% sure I could do anything with that kind of technology. I would be unstoppable. I have no skills and I'm out of shape but I swear to god I would be Bob Villa if turned loose.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
We actually built a lift out of 2x4s and a couple deck screws, called it the DumFuk3000 cause we were dumb fuckers for trying to hang 10' 54 wide type X on a fukin ceiling with no real knowledge of what we were getting into. But we got it done! Lots of cursing and mud later, we have a ceiling in the kitchen.
DrElihuWhipple
Same here and I kinda know how to do it. He is a true artisan
3wattbulb
But why are there no nogs in the framing? Seems flimsy.
EverybodyLives
Nogs is so much better than "blocking"
DrElihuWhipple
That's the carpenter's job, not his. But to answer your question, most places in the US don't require it for non-load bearing, interior walls. If that shocks you, I will refrain from telling you some of the stories that I've seen in subdivision construction.
IJUSTLOVEIT
Stupid question, probably...are all,or most of the houses in America built with this kind of material? It looks like that doesn't give so much isolation concerning noises from one room to the other...as a Portuguese, and living in the Netherlands,that always have lived on houses built with bricks or stone ( my grandparents house was built with a very large block of stones). How durable is this kind of material? Sorry for my silly question.
skibbletydibblety
It’s quick, cheap, and easy. Like your mom.
IJUSTLOVEIT
My mom is a very sweet 80 year old lady, with heart problems, diabetic, reumatic, and a bunch of other medical problems and a war survivor...so what's your point?
arqtype
Yes, this is normal. The sound isolation is better than you'd think (drywall on both sides with dead air between), you might be able to tell someone is having a conversation on the other side but you won't be able to understand it without pressing your ear to the wall, and maybe not then. Durability: you can make a hole with a hammer easily, but it stands up to most accidental impacts, and it's easy to repair.
IJUSTLOVEIT
Thank you for telling me. 😊 It's always good to learn new things.
SaltyNick95
And you can put soundproofing material between two sheets, like mineral wool or glass wool.
IJUSTLOVEIT
Thank you.
elmesito
We do use drywall in Europe as well, but it is a lot thicker than the one found in the US, so it does have better sound insulating properties as well you cannot punch a hole through it without breaking your hand.
IJUSTLOVEIT
Didn't know that... I don't think that in the Netherlands they have it... even the new buildings are built to integrate the area and architecture of the city and villages. Even most of the buildings are not very high... but maybe I'm wrong. I'm not a Diy person but I love to watch the house flips programs.
ParallelParkingInABurka
If it's similar to Germany (and I'd assume it is), as far as I know most of the interior / non-load-bearing walls are made out of plasterboard, at least in newer buildings. I may be wrong, though.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
This material is called drywall, but more specifically, gypsum board. It's crushed stone with a few propriatary glues bonded between sheets of paper. The stone has miniscule pockets of variable materials, air, glues, some stones, etc, so the soundproofing is actually pretty decent. It's significantly lighter than comparable lathe and plaster walls, which was our old way of doing wood framed houses, and allows for easier access to the space between the studs for pipes and wires.
IJUSTLOVEIT
Thank you for your explanation. It's really a different way of building... but now I know a bit about it 😄
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
It's actually super easy to patch, but the panels themselves can't be 'repaired' on site like a rebuild or anything. But if you have a hole or damage, you just cut that section out and put a new section in, the section can be as small as the hole or as large as the entire sheet depending on what you did. You use a paper 'tape' and mud to seam it, and a quality crew can make this shit look as seamless as a sheet of paper across an entire room. DIY, we usually get some wobbles.
aslum
It's also worth noting that usually there are 2 layers of this with possibly some insulation between them.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
Two layers isn't required unless you're putting non-fire rated drywall in a fire room like the kitchen. Some places do it as a quick fix to damage, easier to slap up a new layer than fix all the bad behind it or remove the old. But I wouldn't go so far as to say 'usually', more like sometimes.
aslum
I meant two layers as in since this is an internal wall there's probably going to be dry wall on the other side also. Not two layers on each side.
Neurisko
It's cheaper and much easier to make structural or utility changes to (running new electrical, plumbing, etc.) than solid masonry, but yeah it's lighter and hollow so it's not nearly as soundproof, or as secure from fire, tornadoes, flooding, etc.
IJUSTLOVEIT
Thank you.
Silkyninja1
Looks like maybe he's done this a couple times
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
So. I do love the clear display of skill. But sliding his hand across the top there, that would be a hellish paper cut.
grandfalloon
Pretty sure he's got a sanding block there
JimFromMarketing
I oh I thought it was maybe a scoring tool
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
I would have no doubt. That's why he's a professional and I'm terrified by the thought of said paper cut.
itsokimaussie
Hey! Paper cuts fucking hurt, and you should be terrified of them!
MioTaalas
And no mask to protect against the dust... Yeah...
Goblinpunker
What dust? Every post seems to have a safety nazi who doesn't know shit popping off.
MioTaalas
If you can't see the dust coming off of that when he's working on it, that's even more reason to use a mask.
When dust's small enough not to be seen, it's more dangerous getting into your lungs.
Goblinpunker
I've done plenty of drywall, just as I said. The AC isn't running because no one wants that dust in the system. We sweat too much, the masks clog up in seconds. I would tie my shirt over my face sometimes. I did it just as I said, and my most recent MRI shows my lungs are perfectly healthy. What worried me is when I installed above-ground pools and had to pour the silica filter media into the filters. That is the fine kind of dust that never leaves your body. I just held my breath for that.
blzrdphoto
“I smoked for 40 years and didn’t get cancer, that must mean smoking is safe”
Goblinpunker
Really? Did you get an MRI for that or are you just another one of the millions of annoying people on the internet? Mofo doesn't even know what kind of sponge to use on corners wants to bitch about how I do my job. So fun at parties, that's you... /s
Ree81
A decade or two of doing it the manly way will give him an early grave.
blzrdphoto
Nothing about this is the “manly way”. This is the “I don’t care about my workers so I don’t provide PPE” way.
Ree81
Mmmmmmmasks aren't *that* expensive dude.
Relictivity
I bet the inside of his nose looks like a 1970s coke head.
Goblinpunker
Coke was clean back then so nope.
gumblemuntz
He only inhales once in the morning, then exhales at lunch...
Wrexis
I was thinking of COPD in retirement, yeah.
Banana369
Early retirement on medical grounds.
NoUserNameIsTaken
drywall screws should be spaced a maximum of 16 inches apart on wall fields and 8 inches on wall edges
DonMc
Yep, the state inspector should (should) sign off if it meets standards.
todayok
12 inches or less in some states, 7" on edges. He def cheaped out on the fasteners.
killakrust
Came to the comments to say the same thing. In the UK we have to screw 300mm centres minimum. In structural applications the external edges are often 150mm or 50mm centres.
Ragganmore
Is this the reason it's so easy to punch holes into walls in the u.s.? Because you guys life in upscale cardboard boxes?
OnFridaysWeWearBeskar
Work on your anger management, dude. You shouldn't be punching walls.
BoopScoopZoop
We also feature 125 year old houses with plaster walls and asbestos inside those walls! Harder to punch holes, but tastier when you get a snack for it!
SidewalkWidflower
Correctly living in the US: I was carrying a chair with skinny legs and tripped on my dog, the chair ended up impaled in the wall. Made me laugh manically that that can even happen
seheim
Asking the real questions
clarkWhogotsanity
More or less, we went away from plaste and lath years back.
FatBastardVegetarian
Most us never punch a wall.
BeardicPerformance
Yes
LuciusNeedful
Aaaaaaaaaand kidnapped by ICE and deported to a camp. Good luck finishing that house.
PrincessBatCat
What makes you think they're in the US?
LuciusNeedful
The frame work and wiring seams to match US building code, and he is using a tape measure in inches, kind of a dead giveaway.
PrincessBatCat
I was thinking that too, but then tape measurers can read both metric and imperial, so I was curious what else would've given it away.
PrincessBatCat
Turns out, the easiest giveaway is his hoodie. Quick google search shows they're in Illinois.
LuciusNeedful
Also, the crate he stands on is used for four one gallon milk jugs, the insulation on the exterior walls is US standers R31, and the logo on his hoodie takes a simple google search.
SebastianCrab
Slinging a 12' board like that all by himself. My back hurts just thinking about it.
JeremyGabbard
OK I thought it looked bigger than 4x8 but didn't know they came in 12'
jelisaveta
I can't believe how long I scrolled to see this. I was impressed by the precision and other stuff, sure, but my jaw dropped when he picked it up like it was made of smoke
Fluffy314
I find the worst part isn't so much the weight (though they are rather heavy), it's the bulkiness with no easy way to grip it. So the wildest part of this whole video for me was the confidence in which he threw it upwards and re-centered himself to carry it.
givemepickles
1) this is badass
2) this highlights how USA houses are basically made of little more than “cardboard” though. (Compared to houses in other countries).
3) House selling company: “That’ll be $500,000 please.”
SnowmanHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
That'll be 500,000 to pay the salaries of the entire team who used their expertise to help build this thing. From the project manager, the site manager, the safety guy, the quality control guy, the plumbers, the electricians, the bricklayers, the carpenters, the kitchen fitters, the drywallers, the roofers, the window fitters, the tilers.. oh and the skilled laborers and general laborers. Oh, and can't forget the guys in the office who actually sold you the house. And then materials, permits..
SnowmanHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
Shit.. the groundworkers and the cost of hiring the machinery as well, really bumps that cost up.. the painters, the plasterers..
chri21
Yep. A 200 sqm house in my country could depending on the area sell for the same as USD 500k and be built from brick. The cost thing is a lie.
spittleteets
::David Attenborough Narration::
Here we see the drywaller fastidiously building in his natural habitat. His haste is not out of hobby but necessity knowing upon completion a threat looms. Sadly all of his hard work will be undone in a matter of seconds when his greatest foe appears. The Kool-Aid man.
hiyo365
OOOHHH YYYEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!
thotterpop
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DonMc
Or the new gestapo, AKA ICE. Or better known as cunts
spittleteets
I'd be lying if said I didnt think that.
arrowfred
His greatest foe will be the heavly armed and militarized ICE agents. Fuck them!
HorseonaBike
Cucumberclouds
Your narration https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlcjd6OGNtNXZjajF2aWhxd2Y5eG85NWJ0Z3hlZXc0bWpvMGwxcDJkdCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/yEtdF8oVH4rESm2dOl/giphy.mp4
spittleteets
:: Takes a deep bow ::
crcinau
The Kool-Aid man? Nah, the electrician.....
spittleteets
Hahaha very true
Supaji
nah bro kyle
eepsheep
Or... *gasp! A plumber
spittleteets
Yup, def worse hahaha
StabbyBaker101
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Rihn
Or ICE.
gumblemuntz
Should I be concerned that the only structural strength of the drywall seems to be the paper?
drinkthederpentine
The drywall isn't structural
TheNameIWantedWasTakenSoIEndedUpWithThisOneInStead
The wooden frame it's screwed on to is what has the structural strength. So no more than plaster's lack of structural strength when applied to a brick wall.
The perks of drywall are it's relatively cheap, fast and easy to install. Downsides are the walls are hollow, easily damaged and they don't reduce much sound/noise. Great for some situations, absolutely shit for most others. Like with pretty much any alternative.
That said, I prefer my brick walls over these.
somnif
Eh, not really, drywall isn't meant to support anything. Just there to hide wiring, keep in insulation, and be a bit fire proof.
ExTechOp
In some countries, even drywall has a bit more structural strength. https://forstconsultingllc.com/blog">tion/">https://forstconsultingllc.com/blog/european-vs-american-home-construction/
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sB-P8HnkvKo
Hexidimentional
plaster isnt the same thing as sheetrock
seheim
isn't the point here that things *aren't* the same?
MaleekTheFreak
They’re responding to the commenter saying that drywall (sheetrock) in other countries has more structural strength and then showing a video where drywall isn’t even used in the “other” country.
captainhappen
"unskilled labor"
tankerofquetzals
No one says drywallers were unskilled labour. In fact, they're explicitly used as examples of skilled construction labour. Cheap karma farming.
squillis
Though I know it's meant as a joke, only someone who has never done it before would call it unskilled labor. This would take many times longer for the unskilled to do and the finishing can easily show defects through the paint if done wrong
arehon86
My thoughts exactly. Never discredit a craftsman.
freakdiablo
"It took you half a day! Why are you charging so much?" You're paying for the decade-plus of experience to get it down to half a day from a week with twice as much material.
G0MeatCube
Don't let them divide us
akrabbim
It's called that because he doesn't need some sort of degree or certification to do the job, not that he has no skill.
MaleekTheFreak
Unskilled implies no skill. We shouldn’t use such a misnomer to refer to something that obviously necessitates skill to do well. Misnomers are dangerously confusing—especially to an uneducated population.
akrabbim
I assume it comes from the fact that a lot of places have something called a "skilled tradesman", so this would differentiate the two.
MaleekTheFreak
Are drywallers not skilled tradesmen?
akrabbim
I don't think there's any certification they have, but I could be wrong. But, obviously, if they do, they wouldn't be classified as unskilled.
Quixus
Then call it certification-less or something like that, not unskilled.
interesseret
Sure. And in some time, people will complain about this exact thing, claiming that certification-less is demeaning, and that we should call it something else.
Language evolves, but everything stays the same. It's literally the exact same thing as why all the old words for mentally disabled are seen as swears or slurs today.
Quixus
It is not so much about whether it is demeaning but that unskilled is ambiguous. While it is also used as meaning not requiring or lacking certification, it mainly means lacking or not requiring skill.
SIDSOS
"He did it so quickly so clearly its easy and I don't need to pay him that much"
MikeRInternetTraveler
One of the wisest thing I’ve ever heard: “When a guy who’s been doing something for 15 years comes over and does the job in 10 minutes, you’re paying for the 15 years, not the 10 minutes.” That totally reframed how I felt about paying a lot for ‘short’ jobs.
Lethous
He is probably paid by the hour, with a quick search, high end pay for undocumented labor is $30, so this 3 min clip earned about $1.50.
aobDog
If he's running the job, he's laid by the project
Arbitrarynamehere
Wish I could get laid by the project
implosion3
It is "neat" but you could learn this trick in about 10 minutes after doing it 2-3 times... At most from 1 day on the job. He didn't need to study for 4-10 years to do it. That is what is meant by skilled labor. I'll happily stop repeating this when people stop saying "unskilled labor" daftly. smh 🤦
seheim
You're not wrong about the semantics of "skilled labor", but it's devious to say this is performance you can learn in a day. What you see here is a lifetime of experience.
seheim
I want to see you learn in a day on the job. Or if you can already do it, teach someone in a day.
implosion3
a lifetime of experience to cut some drywall... Seriously? In a hypothetical scenario I could even teach this skill to someone as out of touch as you in under a day assuming you didn't have a physical disability.
MaleekTheFreak
You wilding. It’s really not as easy as he made it look. I challenge you to try it.
implosion3
I don't think you meant wilding, but maybe some other impotently delivered slur? I've worked with drywall several times despite not making a nifty video. I'll spare you the suspense.. it's not rocket science.
Xique
My father hung drywall for many years comerically, and after helping him more than a few times with projects for family with him I can promise you that making it look that wasy takes more than a day. Learning to hang drywall is very easy, learning to do it fast and well takes a lot longer
implosion3
Understood, however the point remains that it is not what is considered skilled labor for a good reason. While you have a point that making it appear easy takes practice I would point out that we also don't know how many attempts were required to give that impression in the video. Like all things online that look easy.. most likely there were many failures in the process of achieving the end result.
LateNightBunnyParty
You're an ass.
implosion3
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Xique
How is it not skilled, knowing how to read a tape measure, how to use a tape and knife to cut instead of a square, while standing and making sure you cut the right edge on the right side of the board. How to carry boards without breaking them then hang them by yourself using a screw gun, knowing where the studs land without marking them ect. All skills
implosion3
You're confused by the term 'skilled labor' because it is combining two words that are common. It refers to work that requires specialized training and technical expertise usually acquired through formal education. It's not Classist, Elitist or whatever people on imgur are getting offended by.. it simply means it takes years to learn. If I can learn something and apply it that same day, no matter the elegance of the execution, then it is not 'skilled labor". Ffs
Xique
And no you can't "learn this in a day" you imbecile
powerrangerpl
Is there any sound dampening material put between the drywall sheets? Asking for a friend living in a brick & mortar interior wall country.
ThatJerkOnTheInternet
When building a house once, I asked about adding some sort if insulation, anything for sound dampening. Everyone thought I was insane. It's unheard of. You see in America the idea that you might have privacy in you own room/apartment/house is heresy.
todayok
Common inside interior walls - acoustic insulation for some rooms. Expensive. Sometimes just regular insulation or even double sheets of drywall if you want to save a buck.
50m31AW
Another option is staggered studs. For the same wall thickness with 2x4 plates, you use 2x3 studs instead (often closer than 16" on center) but with every other stud alternating which edge it's on. That way vibration can't travel via studs, bc any given stud is only touching one side of the wall. Can also just make the wall thicker with 2x6 plates. Also makes electrical & plumbing easier bc you can just snake wiring/PEX around each stud instead of putting holes in them. If done on exterior 1/
50m31AW
walls you also significantly prevent thermal bridging from studs contacting both sides of the wall, and have no gaps in the insulation. Or if you're doing on exterior, you can go for broke and just not stagger them, having a girthy as fuck wall that's essentially two normal 2x4 walls sandwiching a fuck ton of insulation 2/2
DonMc
No
thatlamer
Fiberglass insulation. Interior gets less dense rolls so that the heat can dissipate a little more freely, while providing a measure of sound dampening. Without insulation the walls are resonance chambers.
todayok
"Resonance chambers" not true at all. The majority of interior residential walls as shown in the video are not insulated.
InkGoat
I have never once in my life seen or heard of insulation in the interior walls.
yqpqfrdp625772
Cool. I’ve installed it.
InkGoat
You've worked on fancier houses than I've ever lived in or worked on.
PectorialMuscles
Drywall/gypsum walls are very good at sound dampening on their own if there are enough studs in contact to let the sound go somewhere other than open air in the wall. Source: dad's building a studio in his garage and he has a degree in sound systems and stuff. I don't understand that part, but I do know drywall is pretty good at absorbing sound from knocking around in em while running cable for work. It doesn't ricochet if studs are where they should be. That said, cheap places don't do that :)
PectorialMuscles
But yeah for a studio you'd want fiberglass insulation like the other guy said, which isn't in most interior walls usually. Dad's also hanging an isolated wall inside. They tend to be echoey in apartments and houses and terrible at insulating for neighbors. Lived in a place with one 18ft shared wall and it had maybe 2 studs. Horribly constructed place, neighbor could hear us clear as day, not other way around.