So the whole kitchen staff are hardened criminals? Trump and his people said that's who they're going for, right? ICE is getting $1 billion to become this administration's private police force.
So they're kidnapping girls in a police costume. Golf club meet windshield? Paring knife meet tire? I'm a mandatory reporter. Would that mean anything when I'm hauled into the Police station afterwards?
Don't actually join 50501, they're the idiots who condemned the victim of a shooting and called him a terrorist because a state-level subchapter hired basically-cops to provide security and said cops did a shooting.
National 50501 blamed the victim.
And all of that is after national50501 co-opted and stole the movement from the founder using COINTELPRO-level tactics. National wants money, that's it. Scumbags.
It was the guy who committed no crimes and was known to the local community as safe who was shot at by a stranger that was hired to act as a cop by idiots, and who was blamed and called a terrorist by the national organization.
But what is the purpose of open-carrying a gun in a crowd of people? It seems like something that is just waiting for someone to misinterpret and cause a tragedy. As a foreigner, the entire situation seems crazy by all parties.
But does defence require open-carry? Which is more likely to result: intimidating nazis or intimidating a stranger with a gun? Not everyone at the event are going to be locals or even familiar faces. You can't know that everyone at the event is going to recognise him or there won't be other armed individuals.
I believe he was well liked, I believe he had good intentions, and I believe the media slandered him. But I also believe this outcome was not unexpected.
As someone who was there when it happened. Both are in the wrong. But if you are going to open carry a rifle in a public group. Don't fucking carry it in a low ready stances. Have it slinged over your shoulder. It's still there and gives the message, but don't actively show that you are a threat to those around you.
"You're more concerned with your order than the criminal trafficking going on?" *trafficks people themselves* "This is a criminal search warrant." *shows nothing*
I wonder if he looks in the mirror and says affirmations to keep his sanity. "I am a good person. I'm the good guy. I'm doing good work. I'm NOT helping racist cunts clean out the country of brown people."
They're there on official government business, yet refuse to identify themselves, will not produce any kind of warrant, and are conducting official business in civilian vehicles. Yeah, no.
If they don't id themselves and are violating the law, why should anyone assume they are actually law enforcement? Seems like they are impersonating officers and should be handled appropriately.
Make sure you are armed as it is your second amendment right. The fascists won't care about your other rights unless you are armed. They're made this clear.
I'm a leftist and I'm willing to bet I'm farther left than whoever is reading this. Arm yourself before it is too late.
I saw somone going over if it is ACTUALLY illegal to not identify or show a warrant and by federal law they pretty much can do whatever. Very few states actually require it as a law and in court with enough excuses they can get away with it anyway. In short, ur fucked. The new SS is fully legal and the law won't protect you.
I hear if you go far enough left, you get your guns back. Peaceful protests only work if your oppressors have a conscience, and it's obvious these kid-fuckers and kid-fucker-defenders don't have a conscience.
Farther left than anyone here? I think you're not going to bet on that once you realise US radical left is at most moderate center in a lot of countries.
You said: "... I'm willing to bet I'm farther left than whoever is reading this." and I was doubting that, no need to hyperventilate. May I ask if you are US based, or do you live in the rest of the world?
Oh. You accuse me of hyperventilating when I drop a modicum of knowledge on you? Very telling.
You can ask whatever you like. Keep asking.
May I tell you that you don't appear to be bright enough for a casual conversation about any of the topics you've pretended to be interested in thus far to be interesting to me?
The US Democratic Party is a center-right party. Don't confuse the 'Radical Left' that US media (corporations) will talk about and interview with the left that exists outside of that sphere. We have Syndicalists, Democratic Socialists, Marxist-Leninists, Trotskyists, and Maoists, etc. Reform or electoral socialists are certainly more common than revolutionary socialists, but that's not surprising considering the history of the FBI routinely targeting any revolutionary group.
yoyopopo
Upvote for awareness. This is not the way. This is wrong.
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Maviyakuku
Dox this cunts to smithereens.
ThatSonOfaBitch
One of them has a badge on a t-shirt! Bet he's got a couple of those. You know, to keep them cycled in the laundry.
PAIGEtheRAAAGE
And he’s wearing a Cookies hat. That’s a chain of dispensaries 🤣🙈 what a clown
EmbedAndBreakfast
So the whole kitchen staff are hardened criminals? Trump and his people said that's who they're going for, right? ICE is getting $1 billion to become this administration's private police force.
theshinobi23
#2 the kid "you can do it, Dad's friends." That's a man showing his kid the truth, and doing as much right as he can. Good on him.
W92Baj
Is the first guy 'I see dead people' kid?
Copperbrat
Fuck Nazis.
DickMcStiffens
Why is the Department of History involved?
taez555
TheRedBaron8
If you are not ready to defend your rights up to an including deadly force, then your constitutional rights are just a piece of paper an mean nothing.
Dolenmorgul
What a fucking shithole of a country
RaspK
Yeah, the ante needs to go up.
kaytwit
So they're kidnapping girls in a police costume. Golf club meet windshield? Paring knife meet tire? I'm a mandatory reporter. Would that mean anything when I'm hauled into the Police station afterwards?
lemonofdoom2
I love the energy of protesting but guys, without a threat of violence to the SS they're going to keep doing it. Go full French citizen or stay home.
Rihn
Another protest. That'll show them.
JesaraB
ICE doesn't act on Criminal warrants, they act on Administrative (Civil) warrants, everything they said was a lie.
RibbleTPibits
tattywater
Are all ICE agents fat middle aged crackers?
beenbannedb4
The one in the T-shirt was kinda skinny...
Otteritup
These ICE agents aren't going after gang members and criminals, they're grabbing the low hanging fruit because they're a bunch of bitches.
dorklordsickus
As a brown person we need white people to help. Thank you white people who stand with minorities.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Don't actually join 50501, they're the idiots who condemned the victim of a shooting and called him a terrorist because a state-level subchapter hired basically-cops to provide security and said cops did a shooting.
National 50501 blamed the victim.
And all of that is after national50501 co-opted and stole the movement from the founder using COINTELPRO-level tactics. National wants money, that's it. Scumbags.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Support other movements, instead of these neoliberal cunts.
ScrotusFezziwig
Like which other movements
TheSwedishMoose
Was that the guy open-carrying at the protests?
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
It was the guy who committed no crimes and was known to the local community as safe who was shot at by a stranger that was hired to act as a cop by idiots, and who was blamed and called a terrorist by the national organization.
TheSwedishMoose
Those who shot him fucked up.
But what is the purpose of open-carrying a gun in a crowd of people? It seems like something that is just waiting for someone to misinterpret and cause a tragedy. As a foreigner, the entire situation seems crazy by all parties.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Defense against nazis. He is known to his community, he is local, he is liked.
TheSwedishMoose
But does defence require open-carry? Which is more likely to result: intimidating nazis or intimidating a stranger with a gun? Not everyone at the event are going to be locals or even familiar faces. You can't know that everyone at the event is going to recognise him or there won't be other armed individuals.
I believe he was well liked, I believe he had good intentions, and I believe the media slandered him. But I also believe this outcome was not unexpected.
DeathGear
As someone who was there when it happened. Both are in the wrong. But if you are going to open carry a rifle in a public group. Don't fucking carry it in a low ready stances. Have it slinged over your shoulder. It's still there and gives the message, but don't actively show that you are a threat to those around you.
Mirrormancer
"You're more concerned with your order than the criminal trafficking going on?" *trafficks people themselves*
"This is a criminal search warrant." *shows nothing*
LaW aNd OrDeR
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
Guy filming missed the opportunity to tell him it isn't human trafficking and he's a cunt
That ICE agent is muddying the waters so he can sleep at night
Mirrormancer
I wonder if he looks in the mirror and says affirmations to keep his sanity. "I am a good person. I'm the good guy. I'm doing good work. I'm NOT helping racist cunts clean out the country of brown people."
Superchao
If they actually thought it was an issue of human trafficking is arresting the victims the move? It doesn't make any sense.
JesaraB
ICE is not empowered to act on Criminal warrants, only Administrative (civil) warrants, their claim was blatantly a lie.
Mirrormancer
Yup. It's why this bloke was asking them that question but they never answered, only got angry and used physical force on him.
SavageDrums
Well, "administrative" is a five syllable word...
themadprofessor
They're there on official government business, yet refuse to identify themselves, will not produce any kind of warrant, and are conducting official business in civilian vehicles. Yeah, no.
bethefirsttocomment
So employers exploiting immigrants are the good guys? Got it.
FDMack
Axiomatic13
S'up bootlicker? What is your favorite flavor of shoe polish?
VinnieJonesDiary
Let's say you are right; why are the victims being taken out in shackles?
bethefirsttocomment
Because they broke the law as well
myotheralt
"as well" ok, but where are the people who are employing these illegals? Why are they not shackled "as well"?
LordHosk
What law?
chiefrunswithscissors
It's like they get the issue is the exploitation but they punish the innocent party instead of the guilty one
bethefirsttocomment
Is getting sent home a punishment.
Rulweylan
Being forcibly sent anywhere against your will is a punishment.
bethefirsttocomment
I’d say the punishment fits the crime then
Axiomatic13
I'd you're just a garden variety bigoted asshole.
Apathy86
If you are being sent home to somewhere you escaped from. A lot of these people were seeking asylum
bethefirsttocomment
They understand the hustle, which is why they’re “seeking asylum”.
LordHosk
Thats why you have investigations, and trials and court dates to determine the veracity of their claims.
its like there is a whole process... due to them. a DUE PROCESS if you will.
Tumescentpie
If they don't id themselves and are violating the law, why should anyone assume they are actually law enforcement? Seems like they are impersonating officers and should be handled appropriately.
Make sure you are armed as it is your second amendment right. The fascists won't care about your other rights unless you are armed. They're made this clear.
I'm a leftist and I'm willing to bet I'm farther left than whoever is reading this. Arm yourself before it is too late.
OGSnow
I saw somone going over if it is ACTUALLY illegal to not identify or show a warrant and by federal law they pretty much can do whatever. Very few states actually require it as a law and in court with enough excuses they can get away with it anyway. In short, ur fucked. The new SS is fully legal and the law won't protect you.
Grimmrog
Sadly protests won't do anythign at all except annying them, but it surely will not stop them.
Icantthinkofacleverusernametouse
Pretty sure this is EXACTLY what the second amendment was designed to prevent
jobe
Can you call the real police on them, tell them some armed men are impersonating police and not identifying themselves?
kJerAFK
ACAB
jobe
Yeah but cops hate cop impersonators and want to be 100% in control and in charge, so exploit that.
IdiotSavantTinker
I hear if you go far enough left, you get your guns back. Peaceful protests only work if your oppressors have a conscience, and it's obvious these kid-fuckers and kid-fucker-defenders don't have a conscience.
Tumescentpie
I'm a leftist. I've got a foid card because I'm currently in Illinois. I'm probably going to get my CCI soon.
DriveByPianist
Lmk where you go, I'm in Chicago and need to do that as well
Tumescentpie
I'm south of 30 and dont really want to take my class with a bunch of trumpers. It is part of why im dragging my feet.
DriveByPianist
I'll wear my Harris shirt and join you. Let those maggats kma
DrKonrad
As a French man I can tell you, your leaders will grow a conscience only after the people have guillotined a few
Ekibwurm
as a fellow french, i agree. but you might need to re-apply the remedy once in a while..
Acquiredtaste
Farther left than anyone here? I think you're not going to bet on that once you realise US radical left is at most moderate center in a lot of countries.
Tumescentpie
Hahahhahahahah. No shit? Wanna tell me water is wet or ice is cold?
I call dems right wingers often. My comment history is still public. Im to the far left of Bernie. Capitalism can't work to be a system of equality.
I'm not anywhere close to a moderate center. I want to cap wealth at 100 million right now and work towards a place where no one has personal wealth.
But yeah, my communist leanings are probably us centric center-right left. Fucking idiots talking to me, why?
Acquiredtaste
You said: "... I'm willing to bet I'm farther left than whoever is reading this." and I was doubting that, no need to hyperventilate.
May I ask if you are US based, or do you live in the rest of the world?
Tumescentpie
Oh. You accuse me of hyperventilating when I drop a modicum of knowledge on you? Very telling.
You can ask whatever you like. Keep asking.
May I tell you that you don't appear to be bright enough for a casual conversation about any of the topics you've pretended to be interested in thus far to be interesting to me?
WatchTheWorldLearn
The US Democratic Party is a center-right party. Don't confuse the 'Radical Left' that US media (corporations) will talk about and interview with the left that exists outside of that sphere. We have Syndicalists, Democratic Socialists, Marxist-Leninists, Trotskyists, and Maoists, etc. Reform or electoral socialists are certainly more common than revolutionary socialists, but that's not surprising considering the history of the FBI routinely targeting any revolutionary group.
Tumescentpie
The red scare and McCarthyism destroyed our actual left. I don't feel represented here.