Feb 28, 2022 8:08 PM
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https://variety.com/2022/tv/global/netflix-russian-propaganda-channels-1235192082/
darthtempest2005
Too little too late, not uncancelling and glad I put the hurt in them. Thanks “other” field!
commentsivehadafew
Finally
Cookie0fPower
I feel like they came to this decision after so many sub cancellations.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
Fuck Netflix, I canceled months ago and never looked back. So expensive and I was watching literally nothing ever
Splittmark
I will keep my subscription.. I have however lost $400 because of their stock...
notthatkaren
That rate increase doesn't bother you any?
zanaria
Good, but too bad it took massive threat of cancellations before they made that choice...
CloudStrife101
Something to keep an eye on.
DewiMorgan
That didn't take long. Well done all :)
okbruh
Smart. An obvious decision.
CirB
Good, but I'll be wary and watching for a while. They only did it due to public outcry, and may still change their decisions in secret.
sparkletempt
But we have to take it as a small win, average people have this power if we just work together, it is a small win but it is a win
Hrafna55
Yeah, I am not going to re-sub yet. I will watch this space and see what transpires.
CoBr2
They never showed any propaganda? Russia said they had to and they took their time responding. Why did you even cut it for a poss. future?
pockpock
I mean even Facebook is banning their stuff and BP and Shell are giving up their russian assets. It's all because of the public backlash
IAmNotNSAsodonotbeparanoid
Public backlash has merits. Pressure works.
Roehcai
The way this is worded is amusing. Russia "Here have some propoganda channels". Netflix: *politely* "No thank you."
amiurume
Cool. I'll restore my account now.
justadude41123
Pretty sure this wouldn't have happened because it would require significant changes to their infrastructure with no investment or return
BobRossHB
That Anon hack also had something to do with it
Mcknizzle
What where they doing?
rongoins1
Thank you NetFlix
MeatraffleJackpot
Prove it.
ClickCheeseCat
Not a noble act of integrity. If it were, it would not have taken an invasion of a country to make it happen. This is pure monetization.
MissySassy
Why isn’t this getting more public news attention?
saganworshipper
Y'all stay clear of RT [Russia Today].
RCSpotz
I'm still gonna search for those channels tomorrow, just to be sure.
CatEyebrows
Yay Netflix! And yay FIFA!
annalessthan3
Good!
shawnemack
we did it!
buttdestroyer
I think I'm still going to cancel it. 1. Because they considered it & 2. Because it isn't that great of a service anymore. It's like the >
BrokenJarofHotWingSauce
I am leaving before the March 28 increase. Don't anyone ruin Ozark or Stranger Things tho please I may buy the season later I dunno
Jherden
I've already been out over the transphobic shit.
most or second most expensive streaming service in my country but still they don't offer that much good shit I haven't already seen, and >
instead of adding good shows they add reality tv shit.
Itcanbedone
So it's a win win and you wouldn't cancel it if it was more beneficial to you
SteveMND
Well, it wasn't so much "they considered it" as much as the fact that under Russia law they are REQUIRED to carry them in order to operate >
< within Russia in the first place. However, Netflix is the first external source that's gotten large enough within Russia to fall under >
< that specific threshold of viewership & the law itself has not yet been "fully implemented," so it looks like Netflix (no doubt because >
< of the outcry) has decided to ignore that requirement until it actually becomes (if it becomes) an issue. They may end up following >
< Russia law down the line in order to continue operating over there, but as the first to deal with this, their decision to not >
SomeDetroitGuy
Punishing them now only convinces them that they made a mistake refusing to carry it.
Willowknowsall
Also I thought it was a requirement not an optional thing that you can just opt out of? Doesn't sound very Russian...
To me this entire russia thing was just the final nudge towards cancelling it. I've been disappointed in the service for months. They have >
only decided not to do one shitty thing. That doesn't fix all the other problems I have with the service. It's not like they have earned my>
money by default so it's really not a punishment from my part IMO.
knowallknownothing
I’ve been on the fence about canceling, I hardly watch anything, would’ve had they gone through. Now I can keep watching F is for Family.
T3hi84n2g
Make no mistake; if there wasn't public backlash they would have done it.
tomyironmane
Oh sure, but let's reward the corporations for remembering who holds the fucking leash without having to be beaten.
internetfox
Assume this about all business, including politicians. Nobody's perfect (or far from it). Set checks and balances. Push them to do right.
ultramega64
Maybe, but either way, that's what makes democratic people great. We can make enact change when it matters!
drhobotron
I have to wonder how many subscribers their delay cost them.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Yup.
Yep. And while I'll keep my Netflix account, I'll keep watch whether Netflix will try any shenanigans in secret.
Bdtry
Nah, they will just raise the subscription cost yet again instead.
adamant
They already decided not to air the content.
Iliketacos42
When unsubscribing starts to trend
SometimesISayDumbShit
Good thing there was a public backlash then, eh?
spookyactionatadistance
No. The boycott had no effect just like the boycott for Cuties or Chapelle which had much more momentum. It's the optics possible sanctions
crazyspelling
Yah, they would have. They can't afford to have any government tell them they have to carry unprofitable stuff.
someone496
More accurately with all the sanctions, I'm not sure how anyone in Russia could even pay their subscription fees.
pudaheh
It's funny that the fact that they're widely known as propaganda is only a problem *now*.
AuntieCoddswaddle
Which is why public backlash is important, even when people try to say it ultimately means nothing. Because it does move the needle.
froggy2x4
Why carry something for someone who has a no value dollar now.
eetsumkaus
I mean, yeah? Corporations aren't people, they're profit-seeking entities. It takes another group of people to make them do what you want
TheDogEnd
Citizens United seem to think corporations are people
beardedheathen
Citizens united it's as evil as Putin
The worst Supreme Court decision since Dred Scott
GuacamoleMoleMolester
Democracy is all about public backlash tbh.
asanaustralianwhyareyourpostsupsidedown
That's exactly how a capitalist society should work. Public threat to withdraw money influences corporate policies.
Doubtful.
flyingaardvark22
Yeah, with sanctions ramping up it probably wouldn't have been possible to continue to do business in Russia.
Case71
Time to restart my account! Glad the outcry had the desired effect.
NotAPervert
I would wait til the 2nd or 3rd to confirm they actually do not comply, but so far it’s looking up!
VeritasRex
Perhaps you should boycott Canadian goods, seeing the police state they've become.
GregJeremy
Canadian here, in no way is this country a police state. As well, your comment is reductive of the suffering of those in true police states.
Good lord. You navigate the world with that brain? You should get a better one. One that works.
fridaySantaCruz
I think you’re wrong. I worked at Netflix and one thing I always found is that Reed and his leadership have a strong moral compass
BreakThis
The movie Cuties and all the narco romanticism say otherwise...
Yah, I mean, they even stay in Los Gatos and pay ridiculous city taxes they could avoid by moving offices just to be good neighbors.
They just are cautious when responding. Personally I think they should’ve made an announcement way sooner.
darthtempest2005
Too little too late, not uncancelling and glad I put the hurt in them. Thanks “other” field!
commentsivehadafew
Finally
Cookie0fPower
I feel like they came to this decision after so many sub cancellations.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
Fuck Netflix, I canceled months ago and never looked back. So expensive and I was watching literally nothing ever
Splittmark
I will keep my subscription.. I have however lost $400 because of their stock...
notthatkaren
That rate increase doesn't bother you any?
zanaria
Good, but too bad it took massive threat of cancellations before they made that choice...
CloudStrife101
Something to keep an eye on.
DewiMorgan
That didn't take long. Well done all :)
okbruh
Smart. An obvious decision.
CirB
Good, but I'll be wary and watching for a while. They only did it due to public outcry, and may still change their decisions in secret.
sparkletempt
But we have to take it as a small win, average people have this power if we just work together, it is a small win but it is a win
Hrafna55
Yeah, I am not going to re-sub yet. I will watch this space and see what transpires.
CoBr2
They never showed any propaganda? Russia said they had to and they took their time responding. Why did you even cut it for a poss. future?
pockpock
I mean even Facebook is banning their stuff and BP and Shell are giving up their russian assets. It's all because of the public backlash
IAmNotNSAsodonotbeparanoid
Public backlash has merits. Pressure works.
Roehcai
The way this is worded is amusing. Russia "Here have some propoganda channels". Netflix: *politely* "No thank you."
amiurume
Cool. I'll restore my account now.
justadude41123
Pretty sure this wouldn't have happened because it would require significant changes to their infrastructure with no investment or return
BobRossHB
That Anon hack also had something to do with it
Mcknizzle
What where they doing?
rongoins1
Thank you NetFlix
MeatraffleJackpot
Prove it.
ClickCheeseCat
Not a noble act of integrity. If it were, it would not have taken an invasion of a country to make it happen. This is pure monetization.
MissySassy
Why isn’t this getting more public news attention?
saganworshipper
Y'all stay clear of RT [Russia Today].
RCSpotz
I'm still gonna search for those channels tomorrow, just to be sure.
CatEyebrows
Yay Netflix! And yay FIFA!
annalessthan3
Good!
shawnemack
buttdestroyer
I think I'm still going to cancel it. 1. Because they considered it & 2. Because it isn't that great of a service anymore. It's like the >
BrokenJarofHotWingSauce
I am leaving before the March 28 increase. Don't anyone ruin Ozark or Stranger Things tho please I may buy the season later I dunno
Jherden
I've already been out over the transphobic shit.
buttdestroyer
most or second most expensive streaming service in my country but still they don't offer that much good shit I haven't already seen, and >
buttdestroyer
instead of adding good shows they add reality tv shit.
Itcanbedone
So it's a win win and you wouldn't cancel it if it was more beneficial to you
SteveMND
Well, it wasn't so much "they considered it" as much as the fact that under Russia law they are REQUIRED to carry them in order to operate >
SteveMND
< within Russia in the first place. However, Netflix is the first external source that's gotten large enough within Russia to fall under >
SteveMND
< that specific threshold of viewership & the law itself has not yet been "fully implemented," so it looks like Netflix (no doubt because >
SteveMND
< of the outcry) has decided to ignore that requirement until it actually becomes (if it becomes) an issue. They may end up following >
SteveMND
< Russia law down the line in order to continue operating over there, but as the first to deal with this, their decision to not >
SomeDetroitGuy
Punishing them now only convinces them that they made a mistake refusing to carry it.
Willowknowsall
Also I thought it was a requirement not an optional thing that you can just opt out of? Doesn't sound very Russian...
buttdestroyer
To me this entire russia thing was just the final nudge towards cancelling it. I've been disappointed in the service for months. They have >
buttdestroyer
only decided not to do one shitty thing. That doesn't fix all the other problems I have with the service. It's not like they have earned my>
buttdestroyer
money by default so it's really not a punishment from my part IMO.
knowallknownothing
I’ve been on the fence about canceling, I hardly watch anything, would’ve had they gone through. Now I can keep watching F is for Family.
T3hi84n2g
Make no mistake; if there wasn't public backlash they would have done it.
tomyironmane
Oh sure, but let's reward the corporations for remembering who holds the fucking leash without having to be beaten.
internetfox
Assume this about all business, including politicians. Nobody's perfect (or far from it). Set checks and balances. Push them to do right.
ultramega64
Maybe, but either way, that's what makes democratic people great. We can make enact change when it matters!
drhobotron
I have to wonder how many subscribers their delay cost them.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Yup.
CirB
Yep. And while I'll keep my Netflix account, I'll keep watch whether Netflix will try any shenanigans in secret.
Bdtry
Nah, they will just raise the subscription cost yet again instead.
adamant
They already decided not to air the content.
Iliketacos42
When unsubscribing starts to trend
SometimesISayDumbShit
Good thing there was a public backlash then, eh?
spookyactionatadistance
No. The boycott had no effect just like the boycott for Cuties or Chapelle which had much more momentum. It's the optics possible sanctions
crazyspelling
Yah, they would have. They can't afford to have any government tell them they have to carry unprofitable stuff.
someone496
More accurately with all the sanctions, I'm not sure how anyone in Russia could even pay their subscription fees.
pudaheh
It's funny that the fact that they're widely known as propaganda is only a problem *now*.
AuntieCoddswaddle
Which is why public backlash is important, even when people try to say it ultimately means nothing. Because it does move the needle.
froggy2x4
Why carry something for someone who has a no value dollar now.
eetsumkaus
I mean, yeah? Corporations aren't people, they're profit-seeking entities. It takes another group of people to make them do what you want
TheDogEnd
Citizens United seem to think corporations are people
beardedheathen
Citizens united it's as evil as Putin
TheDogEnd
The worst Supreme Court decision since Dred Scott
GuacamoleMoleMolester
Democracy is all about public backlash tbh.
asanaustralianwhyareyourpostsupsidedown
That's exactly how a capitalist society should work. Public threat to withdraw money influences corporate policies.
justadude41123
Doubtful.
flyingaardvark22
Yeah, with sanctions ramping up it probably wouldn't have been possible to continue to do business in Russia.
Case71
Time to restart my account! Glad the outcry had the desired effect.
NotAPervert
I would wait til the 2nd or 3rd to confirm they actually do not comply, but so far it’s looking up!
VeritasRex
Perhaps you should boycott Canadian goods, seeing the police state they've become.
GregJeremy
Canadian here, in no way is this country a police state. As well, your comment is reductive of the suffering of those in true police states.
Case71
Good lord. You navigate the world with that brain? You should get a better one. One that works.
fridaySantaCruz
I think you’re wrong. I worked at Netflix and one thing I always found is that Reed and his leadership have a strong moral compass
BreakThis
The movie Cuties and all the narco romanticism say otherwise...
crazyspelling
Yah, I mean, they even stay in Los Gatos and pay ridiculous city taxes they could avoid by moving offices just to be good neighbors.
adamant
They just are cautious when responding. Personally I think they should’ve made an announcement way sooner.