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Angel337
"Teen" Titans
CISMaleScumLord
The one on the right looks like a hooker in a 9pm American cop show from the early1980s
SPE825x
Aimela
I heard some stuff about this and was merely skeptical, but now that I've seen this I am horrified. None of them look like the characters--
and if you showed me this without context I wouldn't have remotely guessed it was supposed to be Teen Titans.
Whiskers7
This just seems all too familiar after "Riverdale". Lets take established characters and then stray as far from the source as we can.
themuttonisniceandlean
DC needs to stick to Arrow/Flash/Supergirl, but improve those, and REALLY work or cancel Legends. That show is lacking comparatively.
TheVampireDante
That "Robin" costume looks like they dug out parts of Chris O'Donnell's old one from the movie.
BoloPodoleo
"Fuck Batman"? Wow. Such edge
Iamflev
I'm so happy that it wasn't shit. The story and acting are both fantastic
KungFuMexican
Robin's posture is so bad lmao not what I would expect from an expert martial artist and semi-pro crime fighter
Someshithead241
And expert gymnast/trapeze artist
VigorousButtstuff
"WHAT'S GOIN ON TWITCH IT'S YA BEAST BOI SHOUTIN OUT TO YA WE PLAYIN SOME FORTNITE TONIGHT"
howmanyprofilesarenamedEric
What the hell is this. Why the hell is beast boy white. Why the hell is Starfire un-orange. Why the hell isn't cyborg here
WeenusMaGee
It's bizarre that DC continues to make all these bad decisions and learn nothing. This will suck just like all of the past DC movies.
M4GNETR0N
Its called no respect for the audience/fans. Xmen and FF had the same issue
InquisitorLexaeloftheOrdoHereticus
Batman is fine, leave him alone. Unless you mean the other kind of f**k, in which case he'd like you to know his secret identity...
ChicketyChinatheChineseChicken
Raven and robin kinda looks like that...don't they?
liesuponlies
Not really with Robin. If this is supposed to be Dick he still had his red/green color scheme until he became Nightwing.
Raven originally had more of a dominatrix style with a cloak on top of it, not really a Hot Topic emo. But styles change to stay relevant.
muhvitus
Think about if they made live action tv series as good as batman the animated series.
Think about if we stopped putting live action on such a pedastol, even though it churns out constant shit, and let animation be just as good
rootintooincowboi
Starfire more like starhire
DustingIsForFools
If this is the flagship show to get folks to sign up for the DC streaming service...someone’s losing their job
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LasciviousHedgehog
mofreckle
The only thing that interests me is Young Justice season 3. This titans show actually puts me off to the point that I'll just download YJ
It's 7.99 a month I think and only available in the US. But Then, I wouldn't pay even if I had the option. Money talks, so will lack of it
TheJudgingCat
I think one of their flagships is they're bringing back Young Justice... but you can only see it on their streaming service.
Calling it now the first season will be a crime story. Robbin will get pissed and stray from the bat while investigating new allies for his
hokagenaruto
Uhhh everyone whose following the show has known this already...
absolutezero182
From the trailer it's Raven who finds Robin. Story will probably revolve around him helping her and collecting allies
Thank you
cause.
elShiz
Well both Robins are in the show & it seems Jason Todd may actually don the Red Hood. Honestly speaking, it feels more like a Robin show.
RealScienceMan
Sooooo the plot of the Titans comic?
With more swearing and self loathing.
Eh if comics didn't need to be PG to be sold during the time, I'm sure the swearing would be there.
CP3oh
It's like they blew their entire costume budget on Robin's costume and just hit up TJ Maxx for the rest.
IJerkOffAlot
Please...the costumer didn't have TJ Maxx money. Those were thrift store finds at best.
Mikeiller
It's like somebody at a con dressed up as Robin and everybody else just wanted their picture taken with him
BlueLanternBraxx
I love DC, hell, my username is DC. This looks like a travesty. Deathbattle is doing live action Daredevil vs Nightwing and Dick looks great
Dc holds a special place in my heart and this dumpster fires stench can already be smelled.
newsguycraigevans
It's odd that you threw in a sexual preference at the end of your comic book rant.
TLR01
What show is featuring them? The flash? Gotham?
somethingnotyettaken
Nope - their own. An entire series of... that. Enjoy.
None for me thanks.
You'd need to pay 7.99 a month for it. Only if you are in America that is. Anywhere else you get it for the cheap price of you don't.
Wait hold on this series isnt even open, was never bought by a networks
Nope. Dc's own streaming service that's only available in the US. The only place you can get young justice S3, except from the pirate bay
BurlRavenscroft
I thought this was shitty Mystery Men cosplay at first
CouldBePossibleMaybeWeAreOntoSomething
I kind of understand beast boy's design to make it fit and at least they TRIED with Robin. Still kind of sad to look at though.
FutureHylian
DC : We know what you want, but fuck you
khensu83
No that’s not real, tell me it’s not real, someone tell me it’s not real PLEASE.
middlehead
It's not real. But it is.
And where is cyborg.
They've been pretending he was good enough for the adult team for a while now. That's why he was in the movies.
That, or the team doing this one just didn't want to spend money on costume designs and decided that Cyborg couldn't be done with that.
0fficerDoofy
Is he a teen in teen titans or older than them?
He is in some and not in others.
Djjazzyhorn
I'm telling you it looks like shit. Complete shit.
SethCronyn
PlesiosaurWithElementsOfAnIdeaOfTheLochNessMonsterBoy
It doesn't just LOOK like shit, I mean it seems like Grayson had a personality transplant with Jason Todd
Tudagub
The actors HAVE to know how bad it is. They are just as much to blame being willful participants.
DnDInsanity
No, the actors are simply anxious for real work, like a TV show. They have nothing to do with decisions, and may not even be fans. No blame.
HuevosDiablo
I don’t blame them for collecting a paycheque. I blame the production team who are desperate to do something original even if it’s shit.
GSCultist
Ah yes, every day they wander down to the studio whistling as they make a bad tv show. No contractual obligations or anything.
FrostyOblivion
That's because it's shit. The token black person was fucking Cyborg, and he isn't even in the damn show! BB IS FUCKING GREEN! What?!
makesense
Again, people care too much about 'exactness'.
Totorodroppings
I think they care because beloved fantastical characters have be reimagined as real world awful characters. It's a slap in the face of fans.
tremonti
No, you’re just projecting your insecurities...or whatever. Obviously.
HitlersRupturedColon
"...or whatever" i smell a troll
Too much about exactness? Are you fucking blind? This isn't even close to what the characters look like, or even are!
So a picture tells you how they are? Because all we have is a preview.
It's one thing when maybe 1 char is different, but changing two rather iconic chars is just bad. Not to mention SF looks like hooker! So ya
We have a trailer as well. It's equally garbage.
ClapTrapConjurerOfTheDarkArts
Its not 2005 anymore appealing to edgy 12 year olds is not a smart business practice now a days.
lenonymes
that's not true, that's like twitch's entire business model.
DoYouGuysNotHavePhones
yup
HankThePropaneTank
EXTREEEEEEEME
TheWanderingBard
Neither is it appealing to any form of SJW agenda. Every time it's been done, it's lead to losses and market failures.
splitalterego
Alternatively they try to make it about politics when they know their product is shit.
Because to no one's surprise that crowd is not the consumerbase for the product they're offering. See gaming industry, comics and films.
Shenaniganz80
Is DC even trying in their live action film division anymore?
DrPanzerfaustus
Warner Bros. is a dick
mattrixk
The man in charge is actually a Marvel Spy sent to sabotage the DCEU. And succeeding.
vinpolo
Short answer....no
GINGGONGBONG
Long answer, also no.
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
*Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
koops
The retards are driving the bus now.
qaaaaa
I think they have to use the characters or the IP reverts to a previous owner
VolCana
I think it's their things to have bad live action and good animation
Well they are nailing it
TanithRosenbaum
Do they need to? They're essentially drowning in money at this point. :)
UntamedNarwhals
Watchmen is an amazing example of what DC and WB are capable of
BahamutBBob
I mean, they changed things uneccesarily, but them cutting out the shipwreck comic saved a lot of time. (And kept the movie from getting an
X rating)
ZMan9001
And the dark night
FiveShiftOne
The epic superhero film directed by the visionary Nistopher Colon.
ennuii
Were*
mrvadge
Well yeah, when you have a director who can only make something good when they copy the source material scene for scene, it'll end up okay.
Its all the extra non-comic stuff in the Watchmen movie that sucks. Snyder can't write to save a life.
Jiim52
That was before the dceu.
7grims
true, but that was way before the marvel-dc wars, now they are just rushing and failing
Allen Moore would disagree. I know the movie and motion comic were on par and amazing but I also understand his discontent. Watchmen
LearningOnImgur
Alan Moore is brilliant but he's also...different. He basically hates the entire medium of "the movie". Hated V For Vendetta movie too.
Indeed, I read with watchmen what he hated the most was the mediums inability to use the same structure of the comic giving scenes much
depth and focus
was not meant for any other medium but a graphic novel. The style he used in the graphic novel was revolutionary and risky at that time.
So I find my self in a paradox since I enjoyed all three mediums it has been released through.
RobertVanJovi
The movies are trying, but DC universe live action shows are taking the actual characters and destroying them
Legends of tomorrow is great
This is a show not movie
JessSpile
This is pretty accurate in relation to the original comics though
Hear me out. I know for a fact dc is able to create amazing properties look at any of their animated movies/tv shows they are all amazing.
NomDeImguerre
'All'?
That is my opinion considering the big budget movies they are passing off as amazing side from Wonder Woman and the directors cut of BVS
In recent years ie excluding burtons batman movies those were good. However this is my opinion not fact.
Teen Titans Go.
hamberglar
That doesn't really prove anything. The only people who watch animated DC stuff are straight up fans, but live action stuff "needs" to
appeal to a wider audience to get more viewers and therefore make more money. Or at least that's what the bean counters say.
mormacil
Legends of Tomorrow is fucking gold and live action.
Alkuam2
BTAS
HaniiPuppy
Their animated works are amazing. Their live action works (apart from occasional gems like The Dark Knight or Watchmen) are travesties.
FirexBeard
I thought man of steel was pretty good and I hate superman
Zaayl
There might be a correlation to those two things. Because he wasnt really superman in Man of Steel.
MrFerrovax
Even some of the animated movies have been bad lately.
Its been real downhill lately, last good ones I watched came out in like...2012ish? And it was just alright, not amazing.
boblives
I have an uncle that's a travestie /s
Having said that the arrow verse plot lines and stories are even better than their block buster movies. To solve the issue with DC all they
twozerooz
Wait hold up, what? Arrows plot is absurdly thin and repetitive
Camelspotting
Yeah but it's TV, people don't expect anything.
That was true 10 years ago....
BenSnow97
Well, he compared it to the movies, which are even worse
Toqueman
need is to let the people that work on the animated movies and the arrow verse to create the movies and new tv shows they plan on making.
thefatgnomeinyourdreams
Greg Berlanti is working on titans and he is the show runner for the arrowverse.
Doctor who shows us that good writers can be bad showrunners, so maybe it's happening the other way around. Or studio interference since >
It's really that simple so the question becomes who the hell is responsible for putting a collar on those amazing creators that respect
and understand the content. They are even able to adapt and change some things to bring in new audiences.
brrpr
Is arrow good again? I kinda stopped watching as they started fighting like highschool-girls all the time for stupid reasons
stuey909
Season 5 was amazing.
Yeah that was a very low point however to my knowledge and from what I have seen they fixed that issue.
If you want something more light give Legends of Tomorrow a chance. First season struggles, takes itself to seriously but then, gold.
fizzlebuns
Outside of Christopher Nolan, have they EVER tried?
paragraph
Gotham? Did they have anything to do with the few seasons that we're good? (This is what ringing praise is these days kids...)
spacestationalpha
Superman 2 is a classic
Mask of the Phantasm comes to mind....
Animated movies arent in question here
1989 Batman
KyloRekt
Tim burton
gr33narrow
I really enjoyed Wonder Woman as a standalone.
I did not. There were so many issues I had with that movie and I'm still appalled that 80% of the movie made it to the screen.
Patty Jenkins is a good director, but holy shit did that movie need a script consultant and producers questioning a LOT of decisions.
The accent work by every single person was amateurish and they should be ashamed. The CGI was Green Lantern level. Ares was a bad joke BBEG.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
The classic Superman and Batman movies were good for their time, especially the first Keaton Batman
pegina
This isn’t a film.
he said specifically, live action film, filming in live action, this can refer to anything that involves a camera and real humans on screen.
Nobody refers to TV as “live action film.”
Devious11
If you want to get that pedantic then it would apply to almost nothing since actual film is rarely used today.
You get it, friend.
Ive been having trouble finding good DC content anywhere lately, every comic I pick up is alt universes and evil superman.
Or Batman jumping the shark and assuming status as a mary sue, or overdoing things with Joker cause hes the fan favorite and sells books.
Fulgrim
Have you tried Tom kings batman or mister miricles runs? Brian Michael bendis superman run? Even wildstorm is worth checking out.
Just been picking ones out on characters I want to read for, tried to read the new 52 constantine run
but it felt like I needed to be reading 3 other comics to keep up with what was happening.
aselfdefeatingattitude
Wait if you're buying Injustice then you ARE finding the good DC content.
Injustice is final destination for superheroes, it devolved quickly into "heres how supes killed X guys who didnt appear in the games."
Tie that with already knowing the endings cause the games, and knowing how crap and unsatisfying they are :/
Not especially. It has fun stories like Croc and Orca getting married, or them getting Green Arrow back. https://imgur.com/X0LKqbp
FoolishOwl
Beast Boy seems fine, I hate Starfire's and Raven's hairstyle - they would be fine otherwise too - for me atleast. And Robin just seems off.
OrangeFlavours
Yeah. Well turning the orange alien black is weird, could've just been the best actor they had, but those 2 hair styles suck horribly.
Laxeey
I heard that instead of turning into green animals Beast Boy will just turn green and grow some claws/get animal eyes etc.
To be fair I head this on imgur and never bothered to confirm it since I have 0 interest in the show so this might be wrong.
Rapiecage
Robin has boob plate. And also a gut plate
Well, he's not green, that's a bad start
He atleast seems like he could portray the energy of beast boy, I can live without him being green.
They were able to paint Lou Ferrigno green in the 70s. have we got that far backwards where they don't know how to do that stuff anymore?
ilovedogknots
Why make starfire black for no reason just bring in cyborg
TolstoyTheFox
NoSleepTilBrooklyn
Why give a fuck if an orange alien is black? It's far more offensive that they all look like they raided the Hot Topic discount rack.
MisterManatee
I don't mind if she's played by a black actress, but she should be orange!
JustAnotherWiseGuy
Cyborg is way older now and in the Justice league already.
He's being used for a seperate show on the streaming service actually. Doom Patrol
drfarren
Cyborg is in the movies, its copyright. They need Static to come in to this one.
laboon
Yeah why didnt they hire an Orange girl. This is Bull
HorselesHeadsman
Can't, good ol' cyborg is in a movie called ummmmm what was it again.....
angelghoul
If Marvel can paint Gamora Green then DC could've painted Starfire orange.
tyrunn
Why would you make her white for no reason though? She's not white in the comics
WookieWookieWookie
We're not upset that the actress is black, we're upset they didn't paint her orange.
Does it look like they have the budget for that?
Absolutely true. But, I remember on TV she came across like an avg US white person turned orange. And was voiced by a white person.
Br0doSwaggins
I guess they cant afford orange body paint
Roserapaine
IDC what skin color she has. I care about her not looking like a street hooker.
I care about her skin color. The actress doesn't matter, paint her orange.
Eh, to me the skin color is trivial, but I can understand peopel wanting a more authentic skin tone for her :)
AccidentProneTheSecond
Hot take here, but her actress being black isn't the issue imo. She's often portrayed similarly to one in the comics anyways 1/2
2/2 The issue is the lazy costume design and lack of any recognisable features of the actual Starfire, outside of "lol purple dress"
daromander
What is recognizable about starfire in general that she doesn't have instead of orange skin?
Glowing green eyes and fiery flowing hair (closer to diop's normal hair than to this style) A child like ignorance and a bit of a temper.
Well we haven't really seen her personality yet until the show comes out. Though I agree the eyes should stand out
AranaDiscoteca
Starfire being white makes as much sense as her being black because she's straight up orange...
fireassassine
I have only one upvote to give.
Equality police fuck them. I'm black and I can't stop cringing they could have made that woman BumbleBee
Why not bring Static? WAY more relevant to diversity issues in TV. As a white dude, he's one of my favorite male heroes on DC's side (1/x)
along with John Stewart's Green Lantern and Batman. (2/x)
She would actually make a kick ass starfire if they just gave her a good costume. Paint her Orange and show her like that, no one would care
It would go a bit of the way to make up for recent Hollywood white washing. "We're not like that, we made an orange character black." Say DC
ABillionDucks
Then that wouldn't have been the teen titans that most people think of...
Ya know Starfire isn't white, right? Orange people don't exist naturally, and nobody is getting full-body spray tanned for this garbage.
Not even an actress suddenly making 6 figures by working on TV with actual fans? Carrie Fisher hated Leia's metal bikini, but she wore it.
You compared an established actress in a beloved production and fancy underwear to no-names making not a ton for tv worse than a fan film.
It's not that she's established or beloved, it's that she's white, which sets expectations.
Besteger
Cyborg is attached to JL project. Too confusing to the marketplace to have in both places.
Too confusing? Have you ever tried to figure out pre-CoIE DC comics? That shit was straight undecipherable at times.
Strangely, he is being used for Doom Patrol instead of this. I think they are keeping T.v. and movie universes separate, while the movie>
Universe implodes as 2 of the big 3 leave their roles. Which is a shame because I liked them as the characters, just had shitty stories.
HootSloot
Why is she wearing a cocktail dress and fur coat?
SilentMic
The fur coat right in front of Beast Boy, no less
TheS4ndm4n
Her pimp got her the outfit
lmonkeymann
I’m hoping she was just the best to audition but there’s no real excuse for making her look like a hooker that caters exclusively to clowns
WoahMyDudeThatsCrazy
I mean it could be that she's in hiding?
Medwards86
CheifyMcDANKk
Fucking A+ response
GuardsmanMiku
could be, everyone raged (including me) when the deathnote movie cast a black L but he actually played the roll really fucking well
grimwyrd
Taste the rainbow?
RandomAbscessMemories
I'm on that same boat. The actress is fine with me. What the fuck is that costume? That WIG?
Chaxinitus
Yeah, that's suicide squad Harley's job!
phacemelter
I disagree. I'm not a clown and would hire the heck out of her.
To be fair... Starfire usually was dressed like a stripper that caters to clowns. They made it reasonable for the animated Teen Titans.
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/820/0*zksgIcoRbpzfq6-v.jpg
GaryCXJk
Fun fact: In Teen Titans Go! Starfire actually has coulrophobia, as seen in the episode "The Return of Slade".
meskarune
I mean, as a comic reader... starfire ALWAYS looked like a hooker. Seriously, look at her costumes.
SharkyMcSnarkface
He at least looked like an alien hooker. Here she just looks like a normal hooker
KinetoPlay
Nobody cares that she's black. We care that they didn't paint that black lady orange! I'd be exactly as annoyed if she was white.
+ the terrible trashass Halloween wig & thrift store special fur coat/dress. It all equals a corner walking hooker regardless of ethnicity!
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Well, not NOBODY. Lots of people are upset she's black. But the majority are upset shes not orange, I agree
The last orange painted person on TV is getting horrible ratings.
Chirikain
idk about that, that one seems to get a lot of publicity tho.
black is fine as long as they would make it look correct, too bad they didnt
NullSeven
She really does look good, wow.
So the curly hair also is more true to the comics than the thin hair... BUT the wig is just terrible. There are better options, like (1)
wdasm42
I bet you would be fine if she was white despite the character being an alien with colored skin. Imgur's hypocrisy
She's orange in the comics and white in the shows. More valid question: why not use an actual black hero? Where's Static?
She was voiced on TV by a white person and seemed more like an avg US white girl who was just orange instead. Can't call that hypocrisy.
CardboardStomach
You say imgur hypocrisy, yet all the comments above yours say they don't care that she's black,they care that the costume is ugly/not orange
jrntn
The comment saying her being black is a problem is one of the top comments on the post though.
No the fact that they cut the black character to make an orange alien black
Leopluridon666
Instead of orange....
It is a problem. She should be painted orange. The underlying actress doesn't matter, the character is supposed to be orange.
thankgodfordeaddinosaurs
Diversity, to appease the loud voices on the interweb.
notblat
Just leave.
I think I'll stay. I like it here.
So why cut out the actual black person of the group just to make an orange skinned alien black instead? Sense, this show makes none.
Because they put him in Justice League, plus he probably would have been more expensive for the special effects budget.
Actually No, they are using him for Doom Patrol. Another show they will be sticking on the streaming service this is spearheading.
SimonTheeDigger
Did they really switch out robotman with cyborg?
rangermcfadden
Diversity? yes, absolutely. We need more diversity in film and TV. Poor production value and crappy looking costumes? no thanks.
xane
Casting because the actor is good but happens to be black is fine. I literally have no clue who this woman is. It's just pandering.
BatmanRidingANarwhal
Not if the character it's based off has never been portrayed black. What's the point of basing it off the char in that case
The only logical conclusion I've been able to come up with is it saves on production costs not having to make her orange.
pezlex
Then they shouldn't have made the show if they can't afford to make starfire and beast boy orange and green
HiddenSanity
She's never been portrayed white, either.
Orange >.> sue
theshinobi23
Is that what we're mad about? Not that Raven doesn't even have her forehead jewel, or BB just dyes his hair green instead of being green?
VariousConditions
Both. Both is good
Rifneno
We're mad about it all. But yes, Crackfire not being orange is definitely on the list.
Rebellion777
The green hair might work if it's gonna be a thing where his fur/feathers/whatever is green when he transforms so that's why it's just 1/2
His hair in human form. . .but I doubt it'll be that. 2/2
generichumanname
maybe its based before she locks her father in the jeweland starts wearing it? like that one movie
Jusmar
I think that's the tip of the iceberg here.
Pretty sure raven gains the forehead jewel because of Triton. Sometjing they might fail at trying and I suspect will be what season 1 is >
About. You know, her rising darkness being her demon side, fighting Triton and doing that shiz. BB is green in trailer, but not star.
Rogahar
Someone tried to tell me they're CGId to green and orange but if that's true then why have none of the promo images shown it?
IsACouchASeat
I'm pretty sure they are only going to be colored when actively using their powers.
That's garbage.
No argument from me on that.
Why do that that didn’t work good with green lantern just use makeup like they painted drax for guardians of the galaxy
Could be a budget thing, if true, but idk. Is it cheaper in the long run of a tv series to do CG makeup vs full body paint?
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
It's a fair question, though we definitely have a green beast boy in the trailer.
Bb is green in the one second he is shown in the trailer, but star isn't. Although, it is kind of a silky green instead of a good bright one
Cyanide555
I'm not even sure it's really green. Could just be lighting in that scene. Or maybe he's only green when using vixens powers...
Vixen has similar but different powers. You could be right about the lighting, idk it really focused raven and robin. You can completely >
Angel337
"Teen" Titans
CISMaleScumLord
The one on the right looks like a hooker in a 9pm American cop show from the early1980s
SPE825x
Aimela
I heard some stuff about this and was merely skeptical, but now that I've seen this I am horrified. None of them look like the characters--
Aimela
and if you showed me this without context I wouldn't have remotely guessed it was supposed to be Teen Titans.
Whiskers7
This just seems all too familiar after "Riverdale". Lets take established characters and then stray as far from the source as we can.
themuttonisniceandlean
DC needs to stick to Arrow/Flash/Supergirl, but improve those, and REALLY work or cancel Legends. That show is lacking comparatively.
TheVampireDante
That "Robin" costume looks like they dug out parts of Chris O'Donnell's old one from the movie.
BoloPodoleo
"Fuck Batman"? Wow. Such edge
Iamflev
I'm so happy that it wasn't shit. The story and acting are both fantastic
KungFuMexican
Robin's posture is so bad lmao not what I would expect from an expert martial artist and semi-pro crime fighter
Someshithead241
And expert gymnast/trapeze artist
VigorousButtstuff
"WHAT'S GOIN ON TWITCH IT'S YA BEAST BOI SHOUTIN OUT TO YA WE PLAYIN SOME FORTNITE TONIGHT"
howmanyprofilesarenamedEric
What the hell is this. Why the hell is beast boy white. Why the hell is Starfire un-orange. Why the hell isn't cyborg here
WeenusMaGee
It's bizarre that DC continues to make all these bad decisions and learn nothing. This will suck just like all of the past DC movies.
M4GNETR0N
Its called no respect for the audience/fans. Xmen and FF had the same issue
InquisitorLexaeloftheOrdoHereticus
Batman is fine, leave him alone. Unless you mean the other kind of f**k, in which case he'd like you to know his secret identity...
ChicketyChinatheChineseChicken
Raven and robin kinda looks like that...don't they?
liesuponlies
Not really with Robin. If this is supposed to be Dick he still had his red/green color scheme until he became Nightwing.
liesuponlies
Raven originally had more of a dominatrix style with a cloak on top of it, not really a Hot Topic emo. But styles change to stay relevant.
muhvitus
Think about if they made live action tv series as good as batman the animated series.
Someshithead241
Think about if we stopped putting live action on such a pedastol, even though it churns out constant shit, and let animation be just as good
rootintooincowboi
Starfire more like starhire
DustingIsForFools
If this is the flagship show to get folks to sign up for the DC streaming service...someone’s losing their job
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mofreckle
The only thing that interests me is Young Justice season 3. This titans show actually puts me off to the point that I'll just download YJ
Someshithead241
It's 7.99 a month I think and only available in the US. But Then, I wouldn't pay even if I had the option. Money talks, so will lack of it
TheJudgingCat
I think one of their flagships is they're bringing back Young Justice... but you can only see it on their streaming service.
EyesOnICE
Calling it now the first season will be a crime story. Robbin will get pissed and stray from the bat while investigating new allies for his
hokagenaruto
Uhhh everyone whose following the show has known this already...
absolutezero182
From the trailer it's Raven who finds Robin. Story will probably revolve around him helping her and collecting allies
EyesOnICE
Thank you
EyesOnICE
cause.
elShiz
Well both Robins are in the show & it seems Jason Todd may actually don the Red Hood. Honestly speaking, it feels more like a Robin show.
RealScienceMan
Sooooo the plot of the Titans comic?
EyesOnICE
With more swearing and self loathing.
RealScienceMan
Eh if comics didn't need to be PG to be sold during the time, I'm sure the swearing would be there.
CP3oh
It's like they blew their entire costume budget on Robin's costume and just hit up TJ Maxx for the rest.
IJerkOffAlot
Please...the costumer didn't have TJ Maxx money. Those were thrift store finds at best.
Mikeiller
It's like somebody at a con dressed up as Robin and everybody else just wanted their picture taken with him
BlueLanternBraxx
I love DC, hell, my username is DC. This looks like a travesty. Deathbattle is doing live action Daredevil vs Nightwing and Dick looks great
EyesOnICE
Dc holds a special place in my heart and this dumpster fires stench can already be smelled.
newsguycraigevans
It's odd that you threw in a sexual preference at the end of your comic book rant.
TLR01
What show is featuring them? The flash? Gotham?
somethingnotyettaken
Nope - their own. An entire series of... that. Enjoy.
TLR01
None for me thanks.
Someshithead241
You'd need to pay 7.99 a month for it. Only if you are in America that is. Anywhere else you get it for the cheap price of you don't.
TLR01
Wait hold on this series isnt even open, was never bought by a networks
Someshithead241
Nope. Dc's own streaming service that's only available in the US. The only place you can get young justice S3, except from the pirate bay
BurlRavenscroft
I thought this was shitty Mystery Men cosplay at first
CouldBePossibleMaybeWeAreOntoSomething
I kind of understand beast boy's design to make it fit and at least they TRIED with Robin. Still kind of sad to look at though.
FutureHylian
DC : We know what you want, but fuck you
khensu83
No that’s not real, tell me it’s not real, someone tell me it’s not real PLEASE.
middlehead
It's not real. But it is.
khensu83
And where is cyborg.
middlehead
They've been pretending he was good enough for the adult team for a while now. That's why he was in the movies.
Aimela
That, or the team doing this one just didn't want to spend money on costume designs and decided that Cyborg couldn't be done with that.
0fficerDoofy
Is he a teen in teen titans or older than them?
khensu83
He is in some and not in others.
Djjazzyhorn
I'm telling you it looks like shit. Complete shit.
SethCronyn
PlesiosaurWithElementsOfAnIdeaOfTheLochNessMonsterBoy
It doesn't just LOOK like shit, I mean it seems like Grayson had a personality transplant with Jason Todd
Tudagub
The actors HAVE to know how bad it is. They are just as much to blame being willful participants.
DnDInsanity
No, the actors are simply anxious for real work, like a TV show. They have nothing to do with decisions, and may not even be fans. No blame.
HuevosDiablo
I don’t blame them for collecting a paycheque. I blame the production team who are desperate to do something original even if it’s shit.
GSCultist
Ah yes, every day they wander down to the studio whistling as they make a bad tv show. No contractual obligations or anything.
FrostyOblivion
That's because it's shit. The token black person was fucking Cyborg, and he isn't even in the damn show! BB IS FUCKING GREEN! What?!
makesense
Again, people care too much about 'exactness'.
Totorodroppings
I think they care because beloved fantastical characters have be reimagined as real world awful characters. It's a slap in the face of fans.
tremonti
No, you’re just projecting your insecurities...or whatever. Obviously.
HitlersRupturedColon
"...or whatever" i smell a troll
FrostyOblivion
Too much about exactness? Are you fucking blind? This isn't even close to what the characters look like, or even are!
makesense
So a picture tells you how they are? Because all we have is a preview.
elShiz
It's one thing when maybe 1 char is different, but changing two rather iconic chars is just bad. Not to mention SF looks like hooker! So ya
FrostyOblivion
We have a trailer as well. It's equally garbage.
ClapTrapConjurerOfTheDarkArts
Its not 2005 anymore appealing to edgy 12 year olds is not a smart business practice now a days.
lenonymes
that's not true, that's like twitch's entire business model.
DoYouGuysNotHavePhones
yup
HankThePropaneTank
TheWanderingBard
Neither is it appealing to any form of SJW agenda. Every time it's been done, it's lead to losses and market failures.
splitalterego
Alternatively they try to make it about politics when they know their product is shit.
TheWanderingBard
Because to no one's surprise that crowd is not the consumerbase for the product they're offering. See gaming industry, comics and films.
Shenaniganz80
Is DC even trying in their live action film division anymore?
DrPanzerfaustus
Warner Bros. is a dick
mattrixk
The man in charge is actually a Marvel Spy sent to sabotage the DCEU. And succeeding.
vinpolo
Short answer....no
GINGGONGBONG
Long answer, also no.
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
*Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
koops
The retards are driving the bus now.
qaaaaa
I think they have to use the characters or the IP reverts to a previous owner
VolCana
I think it's their things to have bad live action and good animation
Shenaniganz80
Well they are nailing it
TanithRosenbaum
Do they need to? They're essentially drowning in money at this point. :)
UntamedNarwhals
Watchmen is an amazing example of what DC and WB are capable of
BahamutBBob
I mean, they changed things uneccesarily, but them cutting out the shipwreck comic saved a lot of time. (And kept the movie from getting an
BahamutBBob
X rating)
ZMan9001
And the dark night
FiveShiftOne
The epic superhero film directed by the visionary Nistopher Colon.
ennuii
Were*
mrvadge
Well yeah, when you have a director who can only make something good when they copy the source material scene for scene, it'll end up okay.
mrvadge
Its all the extra non-comic stuff in the Watchmen movie that sucks. Snyder can't write to save a life.
Jiim52
That was before the dceu.
7grims
true, but that was way before the marvel-dc wars, now they are just rushing and failing
EyesOnICE
Allen Moore would disagree. I know the movie and motion comic were on par and amazing but I also understand his discontent. Watchmen
LearningOnImgur
Alan Moore is brilliant but he's also...different. He basically hates the entire medium of "the movie". Hated V For Vendetta movie too.
EyesOnICE
Indeed, I read with watchmen what he hated the most was the mediums inability to use the same structure of the comic giving scenes much
EyesOnICE
depth and focus
EyesOnICE
was not meant for any other medium but a graphic novel. The style he used in the graphic novel was revolutionary and risky at that time.
EyesOnICE
So I find my self in a paradox since I enjoyed all three mediums it has been released through.
RobertVanJovi
The movies are trying, but DC universe live action shows are taking the actual characters and destroying them
Shenaniganz80
Legends of tomorrow is great
hokagenaruto
This is a show not movie
JessSpile
This is pretty accurate in relation to the original comics though
EyesOnICE
Hear me out. I know for a fact dc is able to create amazing properties look at any of their animated movies/tv shows they are all amazing.
NomDeImguerre
'All'?
EyesOnICE
That is my opinion considering the big budget movies they are passing off as amazing side from Wonder Woman and the directors cut of BVS
EyesOnICE
In recent years ie excluding burtons batman movies those were good. However this is my opinion not fact.
NomDeImguerre
Teen Titans Go.
hamberglar
That doesn't really prove anything. The only people who watch animated DC stuff are straight up fans, but live action stuff "needs" to
hamberglar
appeal to a wider audience to get more viewers and therefore make more money. Or at least that's what the bean counters say.
mormacil
Legends of Tomorrow is fucking gold and live action.
Alkuam2
BTAS
HaniiPuppy
Their animated works are amazing. Their live action works (apart from occasional gems like The Dark Knight or Watchmen) are travesties.
FirexBeard
I thought man of steel was pretty good and I hate superman
Zaayl
There might be a correlation to those two things. Because he wasnt really superman in Man of Steel.
MrFerrovax
Even some of the animated movies have been bad lately.
Zaayl
Its been real downhill lately, last good ones I watched came out in like...2012ish? And it was just alright, not amazing.
boblives
I have an uncle that's a travestie /s
EyesOnICE
Having said that the arrow verse plot lines and stories are even better than their block buster movies. To solve the issue with DC all they
twozerooz
Wait hold up, what? Arrows plot is absurdly thin and repetitive
Camelspotting
Yeah but it's TV, people don't expect anything.
twozerooz
That was true 10 years ago....
BenSnow97
Well, he compared it to the movies, which are even worse
Toqueman
EyesOnICE
need is to let the people that work on the animated movies and the arrow verse to create the movies and new tv shows they plan on making.
thefatgnomeinyourdreams
Greg Berlanti is working on titans and he is the show runner for the arrowverse.
Someshithead241
Doctor who shows us that good writers can be bad showrunners, so maybe it's happening the other way around. Or studio interference since >
EyesOnICE
It's really that simple so the question becomes who the hell is responsible for putting a collar on those amazing creators that respect
EyesOnICE
and understand the content. They are even able to adapt and change some things to bring in new audiences.
brrpr
Is arrow good again? I kinda stopped watching as they started fighting like highschool-girls all the time for stupid reasons
stuey909
Season 5 was amazing.
EyesOnICE
Yeah that was a very low point however to my knowledge and from what I have seen they fixed that issue.
mormacil
If you want something more light give Legends of Tomorrow a chance. First season struggles, takes itself to seriously but then, gold.
fizzlebuns
Outside of Christopher Nolan, have they EVER tried?
paragraph
Gotham? Did they have anything to do with the few seasons that we're good? (This is what ringing praise is these days kids...)
spacestationalpha
Superman 2 is a classic
EyesOnICE
Mask of the Phantasm comes to mind....
Shenaniganz80
Animated movies arent in question here
EyesOnICE
1989 Batman
KyloRekt
Tim burton
gr33narrow
I really enjoyed Wonder Woman as a standalone.
fizzlebuns
I did not. There were so many issues I had with that movie and I'm still appalled that 80% of the movie made it to the screen.
fizzlebuns
Patty Jenkins is a good director, but holy shit did that movie need a script consultant and producers questioning a LOT of decisions.
fizzlebuns
The accent work by every single person was amateurish and they should be ashamed. The CGI was Green Lantern level. Ares was a bad joke BBEG.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
The classic Superman and Batman movies were good for their time, especially the first Keaton Batman
pegina
This isn’t a film.
Zaayl
he said specifically, live action film, filming in live action, this can refer to anything that involves a camera and real humans on screen.
pegina
Nobody refers to TV as “live action film.”
Devious11
If you want to get that pedantic then it would apply to almost nothing since actual film is rarely used today.
pegina
You get it, friend.
Zaayl
Ive been having trouble finding good DC content anywhere lately, every comic I pick up is alt universes and evil superman.
Zaayl
Or Batman jumping the shark and assuming status as a mary sue, or overdoing things with Joker cause hes the fan favorite and sells books.
Fulgrim
Have you tried Tom kings batman or mister miricles runs? Brian Michael bendis superman run? Even wildstorm is worth checking out.
Zaayl
Just been picking ones out on characters I want to read for, tried to read the new 52 constantine run
Zaayl
but it felt like I needed to be reading 3 other comics to keep up with what was happening.
aselfdefeatingattitude
Wait if you're buying Injustice then you ARE finding the good DC content.
Zaayl
Injustice is final destination for superheroes, it devolved quickly into "heres how supes killed X guys who didnt appear in the games."
Zaayl
Tie that with already knowing the endings cause the games, and knowing how crap and unsatisfying they are :/
aselfdefeatingattitude
Not especially. It has fun stories like Croc and Orca getting married, or them getting Green Arrow back. https://imgur.com/X0LKqbp
FoolishOwl
Beast Boy seems fine, I hate Starfire's and Raven's hairstyle - they would be fine otherwise too - for me atleast. And Robin just seems off.
OrangeFlavours
Yeah. Well turning the orange alien black is weird, could've just been the best actor they had, but those 2 hair styles suck horribly.
Laxeey
I heard that instead of turning into green animals Beast Boy will just turn green and grow some claws/get animal eyes etc.
Laxeey
To be fair I head this on imgur and never bothered to confirm it since I have 0 interest in the show so this might be wrong.
Rapiecage
Robin has boob plate. And also a gut plate
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Well, he's not green, that's a bad start
FoolishOwl
He atleast seems like he could portray the energy of beast boy, I can live without him being green.
Mikeiller
They were able to paint Lou Ferrigno green in the 70s. have we got that far backwards where they don't know how to do that stuff anymore?
ilovedogknots
Why make starfire black for no reason just bring in cyborg
TolstoyTheFox
NoSleepTilBrooklyn
Why give a fuck if an orange alien is black? It's far more offensive that they all look like they raided the Hot Topic discount rack.
MisterManatee
I don't mind if she's played by a black actress, but she should be orange!
JustAnotherWiseGuy
Cyborg is way older now and in the Justice league already.
Someshithead241
He's being used for a seperate show on the streaming service actually. Doom Patrol
drfarren
Cyborg is in the movies, its copyright. They need Static to come in to this one.
laboon
Yeah why didnt they hire an Orange girl. This is Bull
HorselesHeadsman
Can't, good ol' cyborg is in a movie called ummmmm what was it again.....
angelghoul
If Marvel can paint Gamora Green then DC could've painted Starfire orange.
tyrunn
Why would you make her white for no reason though? She's not white in the comics
WookieWookieWookie
We're not upset that the actress is black, we're upset they didn't paint her orange.
tyrunn
Does it look like they have the budget for that?
DnDInsanity
Absolutely true. But, I remember on TV she came across like an avg US white person turned orange. And was voiced by a white person.
Br0doSwaggins
I guess they cant afford orange body paint
Roserapaine
IDC what skin color she has. I care about her not looking like a street hooker.
WookieWookieWookie
I care about her skin color. The actress doesn't matter, paint her orange.
Roserapaine
Eh, to me the skin color is trivial, but I can understand peopel wanting a more authentic skin tone for her :)
AccidentProneTheSecond
Hot take here, but her actress being black isn't the issue imo. She's often portrayed similarly to one in the comics anyways 1/2
AccidentProneTheSecond
2/2 The issue is the lazy costume design and lack of any recognisable features of the actual Starfire, outside of "lol purple dress"
daromander
What is recognizable about starfire in general that she doesn't have instead of orange skin?
Someshithead241
Glowing green eyes and fiery flowing hair (closer to diop's normal hair than to this style) A child like ignorance and a bit of a temper.
daromander
Well we haven't really seen her personality yet until the show comes out. Though I agree the eyes should stand out
AranaDiscoteca
Starfire being white makes as much sense as her being black because she's straight up orange...
fireassassine
I have only one upvote to give.
EyesOnICE
Equality police fuck them. I'm black and I can't stop cringing they could have made that woman BumbleBee
drfarren
Why not bring Static? WAY more relevant to diversity issues in TV. As a white dude, he's one of my favorite male heroes on DC's side (1/x)
drfarren
along with John Stewart's Green Lantern and Batman. (2/x)
Someshithead241
She would actually make a kick ass starfire if they just gave her a good costume. Paint her Orange and show her like that, no one would care
DnDInsanity
It would go a bit of the way to make up for recent Hollywood white washing. "We're not like that, we made an orange character black." Say DC
ABillionDucks
Then that wouldn't have been the teen titans that most people think of...
BurlRavenscroft
Ya know Starfire isn't white, right? Orange people don't exist naturally, and nobody is getting full-body spray tanned for this garbage.
DnDInsanity
Not even an actress suddenly making 6 figures by working on TV with actual fans? Carrie Fisher hated Leia's metal bikini, but she wore it.
BurlRavenscroft
You compared an established actress in a beloved production and fancy underwear to no-names making not a ton for tv worse than a fan film.
DnDInsanity
It's not that she's established or beloved, it's that she's white, which sets expectations.
Besteger
Cyborg is attached to JL project. Too confusing to the marketplace to have in both places.
newsguycraigevans
Too confusing? Have you ever tried to figure out pre-CoIE DC comics? That shit was straight undecipherable at times.
Someshithead241
Strangely, he is being used for Doom Patrol instead of this. I think they are keeping T.v. and movie universes separate, while the movie>
Someshithead241
Universe implodes as 2 of the big 3 leave their roles. Which is a shame because I liked them as the characters, just had shitty stories.
HootSloot
Why is she wearing a cocktail dress and fur coat?
SilentMic
The fur coat right in front of Beast Boy, no less
TheS4ndm4n
Her pimp got her the outfit
lmonkeymann
I’m hoping she was just the best to audition but there’s no real excuse for making her look like a hooker that caters exclusively to clowns
WoahMyDudeThatsCrazy
I mean it could be that she's in hiding?
Medwards86
CheifyMcDANKk
Fucking A+ response
GuardsmanMiku
could be, everyone raged (including me) when the deathnote movie cast a black L but he actually played the roll really fucking well
grimwyrd
Taste the rainbow?
RandomAbscessMemories
I'm on that same boat. The actress is fine with me. What the fuck is that costume? That WIG?
Chaxinitus
Yeah, that's suicide squad Harley's job!
phacemelter
I disagree. I'm not a clown and would hire the heck out of her.
AranaDiscoteca
To be fair... Starfire usually was dressed like a stripper that caters to clowns. They made it reasonable for the animated Teen Titans.
AranaDiscoteca
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/820/0*zksgIcoRbpzfq6-v.jpg
GaryCXJk
Fun fact: In Teen Titans Go! Starfire actually has coulrophobia, as seen in the episode "The Return of Slade".
meskarune
I mean, as a comic reader... starfire ALWAYS looked like a hooker. Seriously, look at her costumes.
SharkyMcSnarkface
He at least looked like an alien hooker. Here she just looks like a normal hooker
KinetoPlay
Nobody cares that she's black. We care that they didn't paint that black lady orange! I'd be exactly as annoyed if she was white.
elShiz
+ the terrible trashass Halloween wig & thrift store special fur coat/dress. It all equals a corner walking hooker regardless of ethnicity!
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Well, not NOBODY. Lots of people are upset she's black. But the majority are upset shes not orange, I agree
TheS4ndm4n
The last orange painted person on TV is getting horrible ratings.
Chirikain
idk about that, that one seems to get a lot of publicity tho.
Chirikain
black is fine as long as they would make it look correct, too bad they didnt
NullSeven
She really does look good, wow.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
So the curly hair also is more true to the comics than the thin hair... BUT the wig is just terrible. There are better options, like (1)
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
wdasm42
I bet you would be fine if she was white despite the character being an alien with colored skin. Imgur's hypocrisy
drfarren
She's orange in the comics and white in the shows. More valid question: why not use an actual black hero? Where's Static?
DnDInsanity
She was voiced on TV by a white person and seemed more like an avg US white girl who was just orange instead. Can't call that hypocrisy.
CardboardStomach
You say imgur hypocrisy, yet all the comments above yours say they don't care that she's black,they care that the costume is ugly/not orange
jrntn
The comment saying her being black is a problem is one of the top comments on the post though.
ilovedogknots
No the fact that they cut the black character to make an orange alien black
Leopluridon666
Instead of orange....
WookieWookieWookie
It is a problem. She should be painted orange. The underlying actress doesn't matter, the character is supposed to be orange.
thankgodfordeaddinosaurs
Diversity, to appease the loud voices on the interweb.
notblat
Just leave.
thankgodfordeaddinosaurs
I think I'll stay. I like it here.
FrostyOblivion
So why cut out the actual black person of the group just to make an orange skinned alien black instead? Sense, this show makes none.
thankgodfordeaddinosaurs
Because they put him in Justice League, plus he probably would have been more expensive for the special effects budget.
Someshithead241
Actually No, they are using him for Doom Patrol. Another show they will be sticking on the streaming service this is spearheading.
SimonTheeDigger
Did they really switch out robotman with cyborg?
rangermcfadden
Diversity? yes, absolutely. We need more diversity in film and TV. Poor production value and crappy looking costumes? no thanks.
xane
Casting because the actor is good but happens to be black is fine. I literally have no clue who this woman is. It's just pandering.
BatmanRidingANarwhal
Not if the character it's based off has never been portrayed black. What's the point of basing it off the char in that case
thankgodfordeaddinosaurs
The only logical conclusion I've been able to come up with is it saves on production costs not having to make her orange.
pezlex
Then they shouldn't have made the show if they can't afford to make starfire and beast boy orange and green
HiddenSanity
She's never been portrayed white, either.
BatmanRidingANarwhal
Orange >.> sue
theshinobi23
Is that what we're mad about? Not that Raven doesn't even have her forehead jewel, or BB just dyes his hair green instead of being green?
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VariousConditions
Both. Both is good
Rifneno
We're mad about it all. But yes, Crackfire not being orange is definitely on the list.
Rebellion777
The green hair might work if it's gonna be a thing where his fur/feathers/whatever is green when he transforms so that's why it's just 1/2
Rebellion777
His hair in human form. . .but I doubt it'll be that. 2/2
generichumanname
maybe its based before she locks her father in the jeweland starts wearing it? like that one movie
Jusmar
I think that's the tip of the iceberg here.
Someshithead241
Pretty sure raven gains the forehead jewel because of Triton. Sometjing they might fail at trying and I suspect will be what season 1 is >
Someshithead241
About. You know, her rising darkness being her demon side, fighting Triton and doing that shiz. BB is green in trailer, but not star.
Rogahar
Someone tried to tell me they're CGId to green and orange but if that's true then why have none of the promo images shown it?
IsACouchASeat
I'm pretty sure they are only going to be colored when actively using their powers.
elShiz
That's garbage.
IsACouchASeat
No argument from me on that.
ilovedogknots
Why do that that didn’t work good with green lantern just use makeup like they painted drax for guardians of the galaxy
theshinobi23
Could be a budget thing, if true, but idk. Is it cheaper in the long run of a tv series to do CG makeup vs full body paint?
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
It's a fair question, though we definitely have a green beast boy in the trailer.
Someshithead241
Bb is green in the one second he is shown in the trailer, but star isn't. Although, it is kind of a silky green instead of a good bright one
Cyanide555
I'm not even sure it's really green. Could just be lighting in that scene. Or maybe he's only green when using vixens powers...
Someshithead241
Vixen has similar but different powers. You could be right about the lighting, idk it really focused raven and robin. You can completely >