Prepare for Olympic levels of mental gymnastics they will use to justify blaming democrats. So far I’ve heard “It may be getting bad under Trump, but just imagine how much worse it would be if Kamala were in his position”. Bitch she wouldn’t have caused the situation in the first damn place
Trump is bankrupting the small farmer so big corp can buyout their land. Did you know large recoverable deposits of oil and natural gas exist beneath America's farmland?
lol, fuck 'em. I've been out of sympathy for the dumb mfs voting for their own execution for around 8 years now. They won't change, they'll just shift the goalpost, blame the people who wanna help them, and keep voting for the devil.
I mean the one thing I can respect china over is that when they say they aren't going to take Trump's shit, they mean it. It's like the only people Trump can't just do is strongman routine are, other strongmen with actual wits
Was reading an interview with farmers about their support for Trump and how they are struggling but willing to stick with him for another couple of years so they can expect the pain to continue
He could announce that if they vote for him again that he'll have their properties carpet-bombed with napalm (with them still on the property) and they'd still vote for him.
We need a Ross Perot. Those MAGA dudes will never ever vote Democrat based on principle. We need a Diet Republican they can stomach and split the vote. Someone needs to take one for the team.
I just googled (I was 13 in 1995 and not caught up on politics) and it looks like Perot created his own party. Someone needs to create The Conservative Party or The Patriot Party, something that sounds Republican to those who don’t follow, but actually it’s pretty centrist (by American standards). And then it’ll split the vote.
Please do not slur that particular farmer with this brush. He was a tremendous champion of ecological and restorative agriculture through improved soil health management via things like no-till agriculture and cover cropping, including managing his grain crops in ways that meant he highly reduced or even totally eliminated herbicides and other pesticides while maintaining yields.
Most of the soybeans grown in the US are for animal feed or oil production; I don't think they're the varietals commonly used for producing food. It would actually be a much better opportunity for growing MORE animals and then deep-frying them!
You make a good point, however, soybean oil will kill you faster than a Big Mac diet, so prob not the best move. Could they possibly be converted into some form of bio-fuel?
Imagine being so stupid you'd vote for a gameshow host then watch that pedophile ruin your industry with a trade war. Then realize that they're even stupider than that when they voted to get that same guy back THREE TIMES and then it FUCKING HAPPENS AGAIN.
yep. this year: collapse family farms, no subsidies. next year: "to prevent any more farms going under, here's our new massive subsidies! available for any farm over 5000 acres!"
More likely crony capitalists paying off politicians to deny subsidies so they can swoop in and snatch up the bankrupt land and lease it back to the farmer. The US has entered into a rentier economy.
Ok this post is my first exposure to "Hair Furor." That is just fucking excellent. And, if we don't ALL know as Americans that this is EXACTLY what they're doing, we are past fucked. Everyone is screaming about how they pack the gubment, which is legit, but no one talks about this. Like, at all. Great post, one of my all-time favs. +1000000000000000000000
You probably mean rubbing their hands. Wringing has the connotation of being upset or worrying. You rub your hands together in anticipation, you wring your hands in sorrow.
Not just farms. Family owned anything. Any market in which a corporation can stomp them out, and acquire their liquidation. This is a class war disguised as a civil war. They want chains back on all common people.
Not once, but twice! Somehow I doubt Trump will give them a bail out this time since he no longer needs their votes but his friends could use their land.
TBH, the only soy I have consciously consumed is soy sauce... I am not familiar with it in any other food... it may be an ingredient in stuff, but I am not conscious of it.
they ran with an idea that "libruls" are all vegetarians/vegans, and only eating tofu made from soy or soy protein powders and soy food substitutes (like vegan hot dogs made from soy). And some studies suggest soy increases estrogen. So, they ran with the idea that eating soy makes you a pussy. So, it's ironic that these maga farmers are creating all this soy, but now nobody wants to buy it. (Mainly b/c China used to buy it, and China said "f trump")
I have eaten tofu twice and hated it, both times.... for dinner tonight I grilled up some thin ribeyes and made steak sandwiches... they were awesome...
Yep, and a lot of people dont understand this WILL effect their food prices as well. People need to be stocking up and learning how to grow their own for certain things because it's not gonna be good.
I was visiting family in rural Iowa last summer, and boooy howdy, the Trump Train out there was just...A Lot. We were just shaking our heads at the mindboggling levels of Stupid that my poor brother is surrounded by out there...oofdah...
It's not classist to not feel bad for stupid people. There are plenty of stupid rich people who think kissing orange ass will save them are gonna a learn the hard way it won't. He's already fucked Apple which sold out to him, and FB, and Tesla.
Not that they didn't deserve tobget fucked but ya know, not classist, just brainless morons.
I no longer care... I spent my adult life working to get them healthcare, clean air and water, good schools, fair and safe working conditions, consumer protections, and they hated me at every turn.
Nope... I am a lily-white Jewish kid from NYC who enlisted in the US Army after graduating from college cuz I graduated in the Bush The Elder's recession... spent four years in USAREUR as OPFOR, training NATO to fight low intensity conflict...
You want to have fun? Go through Infantry school with a college degree.
100% will blame the "damn dirty libtards" about losing their farms. They didn't learn anything the first time Cinnamon Hitler was in power, they will learn the same thing this time. Nothing. Only this time they'll be jobless and probably homeless because a conglomerate will have bought up their farm.
They learnt a lot when Cinnamon Hitler was in power - they made more from subsidies and selling their crops as animal feed than they could ever make exporting soybeans to China. They ignored the signs where subsidies were paid directly to banks to cover debt rather than farmers and that 70% of the subsidies went to farms with annual incomes above $1m. Big farms have the staff to fill out lengthy government subsidy forms and provide evidence required.
And apparently the unhoused will be jailed and euthanized, according to faux news... But I'm sure they're just talking about 'those people' and not 'real' (white, rural, Republican) Americans, right?
DYSBcero
Prepare for Olympic levels of mental gymnastics they will use to justify blaming democrats. So far I’ve heard “It may be getting bad under Trump, but just imagine how much worse it would be if Kamala were in his position”. Bitch she wouldn’t have caused the situation in the first damn place
ToenailClippingsJar
biggiej
How long until farmers understand that this policy is meant to help agribusiness grow, at the expense of the family farm.
OhIfIMust
None of them; All of them
flordelasantillas
Trump is bankrupting the small farmer so big corp can buyout their land. Did you know large recoverable deposits of oil and natural gas exist beneath America's farmland?
Ein0r
https://soygrowers.com/news-releases/soybeans-without-a-buyer-the-export-gap-hurting-u-s-farms/
UnblinkingSponge
lol, fuck 'em. I've been out of sympathy for the dumb mfs voting for their own execution for around 8 years now. They won't change, they'll just shift the goalpost, blame the people who wanna help them, and keep voting for the devil.
RocMage
kjbopp
Keep blaming the Democrats you fukin' idiots.
Subsound
It'll soon be a great time for trumps friends in agribusiness to buy up a bunch of small farms.
FaeVikingPrincess
I mean the one thing I can respect china over is that when they say they aren't going to take Trump's shit, they mean it. It's like the only people Trump can't just do is strongman routine are, other strongmen with actual wits
RCSpotz
JD Vance gonna get him some cheap farmland soon
iamthemanwithnoname
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SennenGoroshi
Hi there. You seem to be suffering from a shortage of pixels.
RevRagnarok
Hi there. You seem to be suffering from a shortage of bricks.
zeacorzeppelin10
ThisIsMyOnlySocialMedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_soybean_production
slyvaina
How do we learn about these numbers?
EroticZombiePants
If anyone would know, it's the American Soybean Association.
LordJebusVII
Was reading an interview with farmers about their support for Trump and how they are struggling but willing to stick with him for another couple of years so they can expect the pain to continue
RenaissanceFaireMan
So China was giving us billions of dollars and now they're not?
iusedtodream
Correct. And this is only one small area where we have lost massive Chinese trade and investment.
bashthefash1917
America is going to be the 5th Trump bankruptcy
TupacAintDead
I’d love to be able to say that these idiots have learned their lesson. But they’ll gladly vote for the orange cunt again.
modus0
He could announce that if they vote for him again that he'll have their properties carpet-bombed with napalm (with them still on the property) and they'd still vote for him.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
We need a Ross Perot. Those MAGA dudes will never ever vote Democrat based on principle. We need a Diet Republican they can stomach and split the vote. Someone needs to take one for the team.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
I just googled (I was 13 in 1995 and not caught up on politics) and it looks like Perot created his own party. Someone needs to create The Conservative Party or The Patriot Party, something that sounds Republican to those who don’t follow, but actually it’s pretty centrist (by American standards). And then it’ll split the vote.
Zetor
Maybe they can work on their farms for $8 after Black Rock buys them.
Kellendos
whywritemythesiswhenihaveinternet
Please do not slur that particular farmer with this brush. He was a tremendous champion of ecological and restorative agriculture through improved soil health management via things like no-till agriculture and cover cropping, including managing his grain crops in ways that meant he highly reduced or even totally eliminated herbicides and other pesticides while maintaining yields.
Kellendos
Yeah....should have mentioned that in the post. My bad.
OxfordWriter
Abundant, cheap soybeans? Seems like a great opportunity for the US to ditch meat and switch to vegetarianism.
FermentTheRich3000
Well let it rot in the fields before they even try a change like that.
EroticZombiePants
Even if you make an effort to redistribute that elsewhere, a whole bunch of that is going to rot before you can even get it there.
lordnequam
Most of the soybeans grown in the US are for animal feed or oil production; I don't think they're the varietals commonly used for producing food. It would actually be a much better opportunity for growing MORE animals and then deep-frying them!
OxfordWriter
You make a good point, however, soybean oil will kill you faster than a Big Mac diet, so prob not the best move. Could they possibly be converted into some form of bio-fuel?
IRPAZ
None, farmers don't understand, it hurts their brains.
MarlenaWatches
You've got to remember, these are simple farmers. They're people of the land; the common clay of the new west. You know... ...morons!
HollerinAtTheVoid
But all that tax revenue will make up for it!!!
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PrinceMaxx7
"iT's BiDeN's fAuLt fOr sElLiNg sO mUcH iN 2024!1!1!1"
dontrike
Imagine being so stupid you'd vote for a gameshow host then watch that pedophile ruin your industry with a trade war. Then realize that they're even stupider than that when they voted to get that same guy back THREE TIMES and then it FUCKING HAPPENS AGAIN.
Those farmers don't deserve a dime.
DoctorDang
Neither, they’ll blame china. The Sinophobia is real.
Rascael
"Socialist" subsidies incoming in 3, 2, ...
khora
They made an extrapolation from one dot. They were wrong.
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,….3,4,5,6,7,8,9 (continues counting up because those subsidies have been cut too)
OhHai2joo
The bailout won't come until the family farms are all sold to big business.
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
yep. this year: collapse family farms, no subsidies. next year: "to prevent any more farms going under, here's our new massive subsidies! available for any farm over 5000 acres!"
YuckFuMaga
That’s not what socialist means … MAGA!! https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlajByMno5NzFuN2d1OXRhOGp3cWhrdmxtNzBudjF4ejcyNXFlbHJpeSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/q5ZGrl0J65ivu/200w.mp4
forreference
More likely crony capitalists paying off politicians to deny subsidies so they can swoop in and snatch up the bankrupt land and lease it back to the farmer. The US has entered into a rentier economy.
rrlyrae
farm aid isn't socialism, just like TANF and SNAP benefits for white people are not welfare. just ask any farmer (seriously).
Nathanyel
it's not socialist when it's handouts for companies & rich people /s
tentaclefriendly
Hair Furor & co invested in companies that buy up failed farms.
There is no bailout coming.
PorkChopPanties
Ok this post is my first exposure to "Hair Furor." That is just fucking excellent. And, if we don't ALL know as Americans that this is EXACTLY what they're doing, we are past fucked. Everyone is screaming about how they pack the gubment, which is legit, but no one talks about this. Like, at all. Great post, one of my all-time favs. +1000000000000000000000
keystotheairlock
Fucken YIKES. Is there an article you might have on this?
tentaclefriendly
https://civileats.com/2024/09/18/jd-vance-invested-in-acretrader-heres-why-that-matters/
manymadmasks
Funny as that'd be, Vance and his group are wringing their hands waiting to scoop them up. Help is unlikely.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
You probably mean rubbing their hands. Wringing has the connotation of being upset or worrying. You rub your hands together in anticipation, you wring your hands in sorrow.
blarkk
Probably not. If you aren't planning on having any more elections you don't need to pander to your base.
FunWithUsernames
We can’t lose elections if we don’t have them *taps big GOP brain
lackinglife
They did a round of subsidies early on but there don't seem to be any more coming.
They did their usual schtick, just enough help for a photo op.
ProjectDA
its also guessed they want the farms to fail, so they sell cheap
Eyeetsass
Not just farms. Family owned anything. Any market in which a corporation can stomp them out, and acquire their liquidation. This is a class war disguised as a civil war. They want chains back on all common people.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Womp womp.
I will give those soybean farmers some credit, they voted to fuck themselves and they are gonna get fucked, hard.
michaeloberg
"Americans get the government they voted for. They get it nice and hard"
tzahtman
Not once, but twice! Somehow I doubt Trump will give them a bail out this time since he no longer needs their votes but his friends could use their land.
foo4thought
Propaganda works! Conservative media networks feed them a steady drip of civic poison.
sadurdaynight
(them then) these god damn soy boy libruls are ruinin america! (them now) why aren't the soy boys buyin my soys now?! Please, come back!
bippityboppitybuttsex
TBH, the only soy I have consciously consumed is soy sauce... I am not familiar with it in any other food... it may be an ingredient in stuff, but I am not conscious of it.
sadurdaynight
they ran with an idea that "libruls" are all vegetarians/vegans, and only eating tofu made from soy or soy protein powders and soy food substitutes (like vegan hot dogs made from soy). And some studies suggest soy increases estrogen. So, they ran with the idea that eating soy makes you a pussy. So, it's ironic that these maga farmers are creating all this soy, but now nobody wants to buy it. (Mainly b/c China used to buy it, and China said "f trump")
bippityboppitybuttsex
They grow soy cuz there used to be a market for all they could grow, trump killed that market and now the Chinese get their soybeans from Brazil
bippityboppitybuttsex
I have eaten tofu twice and hated it, both times.... for dinner tonight I grilled up some thin ribeyes and made steak sandwiches... they were awesome...
imaynotbeasmartmanjenny
It is quite a popular filler in food items you may not even have known you ate it! https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlbjNlNmw2YThrNG12dXR1dm1pM2trNXdxempyem5jNTRuazd6NXlzdCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/cKQksH9JmUus0/200w.mp4
bippityboppitybuttsex
I am certain of it... it just isn't a food I seek out and consume... I am sure there are other farm staples I consume without being conscious of.
lifeisadadjoke
It'll break the Bonnie Blue one-day body count record.
SirsSir
They sure did. I live in Iowa and rural Iowa voted for this, oops.
ViscousCousCous
rural Michigan did too. it's gonna be bad
IncognitoEnthusiast
Yep, and a lot of people dont understand this WILL effect their food prices as well. People need to be stocking up and learning how to grow their own for certain things because it's not gonna be good.
MarlenaWatches
I was visiting family in rural Iowa last summer, and boooy howdy, the Trump Train out there was just...A Lot. We were just shaking our heads at the mindboggling levels of Stupid that my poor brother is surrounded by out there...oofdah...
bippityboppitybuttsex
My favorite part is the videos of farmers complaining that they should not be punished for their vote, that it is Democrat's fault...
I will give those people credit, they made sure I would feel nothing for them when they lost their farms.
bashthefash1917
I really don't want to be classist but they don't make it easy
shadowdorothy
It's not classist to not feel bad for stupid people. There are plenty of stupid rich people who think kissing orange ass will save them are gonna a learn the hard way it won't. He's already fucked Apple which sold out to him, and FB, and Tesla.
Not that they didn't deserve tobget fucked but ya know, not classist, just brainless morons.
sobeman
They will just blame Biden and Obama. They won't ever realize what has happened.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I no longer care... I spent my adult life working to get them healthcare, clean air and water, good schools, fair and safe working conditions, consumer protections, and they hated me at every turn.
I am done.
absolutelymad
Is this you, Obama? Your imgur account?
bippityboppitybuttsex
Nope... I am a lily-white Jewish kid from NYC who enlisted in the US Army after graduating from college cuz I graduated in the Bush The Elder's recession... spent four years in USAREUR as OPFOR, training NATO to fight low intensity conflict...
You want to have fun? Go through Infantry school with a college degree.
acetothermus
100% will blame the "damn dirty libtards" about losing their farms. They didn't learn anything the first time Cinnamon Hitler was in power, they will learn the same thing this time. Nothing. Only this time they'll be jobless and probably homeless because a conglomerate will have bought up their farm.
SheepySleepySmuggler
They learnt a lot when Cinnamon Hitler was in power - they made more from subsidies and selling their crops as animal feed than they could ever make exporting soybeans to China. They ignored the signs where subsidies were paid directly to banks to cover debt rather than farmers and that 70% of the subsidies went to farms with annual incomes above $1m. Big farms have the staff to fill out lengthy government subsidy forms and provide evidence required.
SheepySleepySmuggler
Reference: https://sustainableagriculture.net/blog/farm-subsidies-encourage-big-get-bigger/
lifeisadadjoke
DEY TERK ER JERBS
powwerbottom
"Now that many of the farm workers have been deported, are you gonna get your jerb back?"
"Well no, I do not want that jerb"
lifeisadadjoke
"Quick! Back to the pile!"
Ginoawesomesauce
And apparently the unhoused will be jailed and euthanized, according to faux news... But I'm sure they're just talking about 'those people' and not 'real' (white, rural, Republican) Americans, right?
UncleMeaty
Hey. That's offensive to cinnamon.
Also, that's not a good name for him. People love cinnamon.
spangolio
Eet wuz JOWE BAHHHHDIN
acetothermus
And Hillary with her emails!
Darklinkinfinite
And Barack HUSSEIN Obama
acetothermus
Did that actually work. Did the (what became) MAGA crowd get fired up over that one part of his name?
Darklinkinfinite
It fed into the whole Birther conspiracy, in addition to calling to the racist feelings that were still subtext at the time
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Not just that, his skin colour was also an issue. But yes the "Hussein" part was constantly pointed out by the Tea Party, back in the day.