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blaghart
How many times do I have to say this: It doesn't matter that you want to punish Democrats for their crimes, the Democratic Party DONT. THATS THE FUCKING ISSUE.
jeips
jail criminals. doubly jail pedos. also, find a way to break from the insane 2-pary system
hotaru251
A criminal is a criminal regardless of gender, political position, religion, etc.
Oust every fkn person.
akrabbim
I'm a Republican, and I agree completely. I voted for Trump, and if the evidence shows he was involved with underage girls, bury him too.
ceallachdon
Did you ever read this account from one of Epstein's victims? /gallery/katie-johnson-vs-trump-epstein-ZqFL2HZ
akrabbim
Just saw that. The one thing I'll say is that it looks a bit convenient. Trump's a pedo, oh and he's racist and attracted to his daughter too. But if he was there, he'll be on the recordings. If that info can be corroborated or proven, bury him. Though, it's not the first time non-credible accusations have come up. For example: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-child-rape-settlements/
VibratingNipples
Even Trump?
MoreButterForMyHam
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5m4llP0X
YES.
NZSheeps
All the Trumps
PhailRaptor
*Especially* Trump.
Sinasohn
MAGA doesn't agree.
/gallery/fucking-gross-doesnt-even-begin-to-describe-IIS0hCa
MoonBoots92
It is so much bigger than just left/right leaning politicians. It spams THE ENTIRE GLOBE. Movers and shakers of the current world order are all up in that client list. The world as we know it would go down (which ngl would be great) but it would require mass upheaval. The ones with the knowledge are too chickenshit to do what is right and release the names. I wonder how they sleep at night.
MirroredImage
The last time anyone put that together and DID attempt to draw attention to it, he got suicided, it still got out, and then nothing happened.
I question what the point is of *not* releasing all of it, since 80% of the population is bread and circus even now. It'll just go from an open secret to an open fact.
TheGrassIsSlightlyGreener
Ah but then there wouldn’t be any politician’s left :/
supervillin
OK.
Zetor
Republicans:
PinkyTheUnicorn2
Exactly. Republicans don’t care if those people can give them power
Santorrr
Gee, I'm all in on jailing molestors and abusers, but you know you can also treat the disorder. It's always a "shoot them in the face" solution with you yanks.
Kbantar
The disorder would be thoughts. R*pe is about purposeful actions. Very different. But I want criminals in jail, not executed.
Becker37
I know people say it's an illness but so is Trump and all the other pieces of horrible shit in this world. Life is sad but that doesn't mean we don't put down those who are a big threat to the public. You can just go throw these ass hats out because they'll figure out w way to get back into power and hurt everyone. We put down dangerous animals and they have no idea what they're doing is "wrong". Why would we not with humans?
ZeroVektor
Make em all wear these shoes too...
rossimus
Watching the reversal of many in MAGA over whether releasing the list would be worth potentially losing political power was perhaps the most predictable thing that has yet happened, ever
rojelioenescabeche
But see, they don’t.
JayEnfield
For most of them, it's just something to hit us over the head with because it's something that you can't disagree with and it produces a viceral emotional reaction. But then when combined with a mentality of " Everybody on your side is doing the evil thing and nobody on my side is doing the evil thing" regardless of any sort of evidence... Now it's just a convenient lever for demonizing opponents.
trancie27
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
They won't agree though. They think we'd protect Clinton with the same fervor they protect Trump, which is absolutely not the case. As soon as they find out we'd throw both of them into a volcano they'll harumph out of the deal.
bluekracker
The thing is about 1/4 of the people given this label are innocent and the real ones run free.... source: 5 years of life experience. In prison the sex offenders have certain noticeable habits. It's easy to sort them out from others
Illinifan88
We don't, though. Republicans only want to jail democratic pedophiles. Because Republicans don't care if someone is a pedophile. But they'll use it as an excuse to jail their opponents.
SirWhiskersThe3rd
I’ve met republicans who believed it was okay to marry children as long as the genders were man and (in their words) woman.
I have NEVER met a democrat who believed something as sick as that.
AnOceanOfStars
Apparently not.
/gallery/maga-s-perfectly-reasonable-response-to-epstein-news-uRM4Gze
Oneblueeyerighthandguy
My wife and I wholeheartedly agree. Get ‘em all
BumroyV2
I mean, you say that, but any timr I've seen someone on here say Bill Clinton is on the Epstein list, they get downvoted. He's not some paragon of virtue; I'm not sure why anyone's going to bat for him.
InternetAnonymityplz
We should not be throwing around wild accusations about people who might be pedophiles, but we should be jailing people proven to have harmed children. Those are two very different things, and saying Clinton is on the Epstein list is in the first category. If it's true though, yeah, lock his ass up.
Honestly, we shouldn't be saying Trump is on the list either, but with all those old pictures and how generally detestable he is, he can suck it.
ArkoneAxon
Honestly, there's more evidence against Clinton than there is against Trump. Trump's a scumbag, but when it comes to sex crimes his known rap sheet mostly involves cheating on his wives (who are all big tittied blondes) with other big tittied blondes. The scummiest thing he's said about his own antics is that he started getting attracted to his own daughter... when she grew up and became a big tittied blonde.
That being said, both men DEFINITELY harmed kids with their policies in office.
ceallachdon
And the whole thing with Epstein's victim who said that Trump had sex her when she was 13?
/gallery/katie-johnson-vs-trump-epstein-ZqFL2HZ
ArkoneAxon
Three things in response.
1: IF it's true, then I wholeheartedly support punishing Trump alongside the others. No, that's not a MAGA having integrity, because I'm not a MAGA.
2: the constant stream of fake accusations against Trump makes this one harder to believe. It's "the Boy Who Cried Wolf" dilemna. Simply put, the TDS stuff has INSULATED Trump with much of the country.
3: If true, it's STILL less than what Clinton's been credibly accused of. Though both men are evil for OTHER reasons.
Frogasmol
It's cute of you to think we can all agree
JonWallace1985
Anthony Weiner talked to some little girls. Dem: WTF, get the fuck outta here! POLICE!!! Donald Trump does it: GOP: Imma vote for this guy.
We can’t all agree on that unfortunately.
CuntCrotchula
swofromtherock
Honestly, you can change half of the blue hat to MAGA and the MAGA hat to $$$$.
Catodactyl
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Hayashima
I enjoy the "with apologies to" credit.
Zixtank
Hilarious, because that is literally what we're campaigning for.
thematman92
Bold of you to assume I don't think Bill is a piece of shit. Heck I'm still pissed at Hilary for how terrible of a campaign she ran.
cantdo3456
She gets a lot of hate because they gamed the primary and I have to say most of it is deserved.
Sypurist
I've been saying it for years, literally any male candidate would have beaten Trump in 2016.
The facts back me up on this too, Trump has never won an election against a male candidate.
rshini
There's a lot of low-key sexism on the left sadly, they don't want to control women like Republicans, but they do believe women aren't as capable/logical/experienced or that they should step aside (see how man berniebros screamed at Warren to drop out for Sanders despite her actually doing better than him in the primary polling)
Kotose88
🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
Sypurist
Yup. I knew Trump had won as soon as they announced Harris was their candidate. Joe Biden's shrink-wrapped skeleton propped up at the lectern could have won this last election.
Also, a Walz Harris ticket would also have won.
rshini
sadly, I can believe you, though god damn it the media was playing hard for a Trump win, we imgurians tend to be waaay more polticially aware than most of the voting public
ImurevJourhein
-jail +execute. They can never be reformed or redeemed. Send them all to hell where they belong.
Horsebatteries
A friend's mum recently made a remark that she thought it was unfair rapist catholic priests were being persecuted since there's so much sexual abuse in other religious groups not being followed up on.
We had a serious conversation about that and I think she actually came to a new understanding. But the knee-jerk reactions people have sometimes, they worry me.
If you're stuck in groupthink, ask yourself which group you're meant to be in. For me, it's every decent person vs rapists.
frozenlake247
Problem there is that quite a few really awful people have deep faith in their “decency” which often leads to excusing evil in others and eventually decency loses all relation to any actual moral concept or objective measure.
What fundamentally makes a person “decent”?
(Not JAKing off, putting my answer in response but would like to see others’, hopefully at least somewhat independent, thoughts.)
Horsebatteries
Character limit made me me concise. I think the primary moral question is "Does this person intend to make victims?"
If the answer is yes, you're out. There's a lot of ways you can turn it, but once you're at the point where you understand your gratification results in harm to unwilling others, and not see that as a crucial limit, you're no longer on my team. More qualifications may apply.
Terry Pratchett was right. "People as things, that’s where it starts."
frozenlake247
To me, in semi simple form, “good/decency” is not “taking” from the world more than is reasonably needful. Giving/sharing whatever you can for the common good. Minimize harm, maximize benefit. Increase and enrich life whenever possible. This applies across species, communities, etc.
Life is essential to meaning (w/o life existence could blink out without apparent consequence). There are more steps in the chain but yeah…
Rape/murder is pretty much the antithesis of all of that.
LadyofHats
If it is without judgement or due process i disagree. The us has lost all sence of legality.
SmashySashimi
Jail is usually for holding people before trial/sentencing. If they can't post bail, are considered a flight risk, or some other important circumstances, then they're held in jail while the due process gets worked out.
matbella
I absolutely hate that system… talk about a corrupt freaking system! “You go to jail!…. Unless” so god damn stupid.
SmashySashimi
The fact that there's (bail) money involved totally isn't a giveaway at all as to who set up the system.
PorkFriedSquirrel
What about 34 convicted felonies?
Pilgrymm
In that case you get to be president.
ConfederacyOfDunces
You don't agree that pedos should be locked up?
Real talk: why not?
cenfou2tout
Because in a normal country you need to be condemned by the judiciary system before going to prison (yeah there are cases they put you in prison preemptively).
We sometimes tend to forget that in case of atrocious crimes (terrorism, child murder/rape...).
But the law is what makes us "westerners" civilized, if we don't fallow it we loose a big part of our progress.
ConfederacyOfDunces
Ok but the post doesn't say w/o due process. I read it as what we should aspire to as a fundamental value.
cenfou2tout
I mean, that guy commentis literally saying it : "If it is without judgement or due process i disagree."
ConfederacyOfDunces
Well that's a good point
MAN9000
Under a dictator, only the opposition is found guilty.
ConfederacyOfDunces
So, downvote and no response?
ConfederacyOfDunces
Okay so that's a cute little trite message but how do you actually apply that to this situation? I'm not asking what the saying means, I'm asking what YOU mean by it in the context of today in America.
clutch26
I mean in context of today in America, there are plenty of people being taken by law enforcement that aren't given any due process (a day in court)
All that is being said here is, give people a chance to defend themselves so history doesn't repeat itself
ConfederacyOfDunces
How does that actually relate to the post, though, to which is about what we should all agree is right and just?
ConfederacyOfDunces
And yes I know you're not the commenter I asked originally, but you joined in with this Hallmark card bullshit.
LadyofHats
I am the original commenter and i ment exactly what clutch26 said, in america people is arrested, deported even killed just by pure suspicion . You can loose your job just for the claims of someone else. There is no longer due process. Rule of law, justice. Your own president boast of being above the law. Your police force can damage property, kill innocents by desire or negligence and there are no consequences. Yes in principle a pedophile is a bad actor and should be stoped…1/2
quade
*jail pedos
Germhole
Right, can't discriminate here other then against the fact they're Pedos, we no care what color your feathers are or which party/cult aligned with. Sick is sick, period.
MrWobblyHead
*jail paedos
SailorPupitar
*gaol paedos
BabyWitchErika
My stance: jail pedos who hurt kids. Pedo who resist? get them therapy and help, so they continue not to hurt kids.
Higure
Also jail kiddy diddlers who aren't pedos. In fact, whether a person is a pedophile or not doesn't really matter at all. What they do to kids matters.
BabyWitchErika
aren't they pedos if they diddle kids?
Kbantar
Most r*pists of children do so because children are simply among the easiest to control and abuse, not because they have a sexual preference for them.
WeekendWarriorMark
Depends whether you go with the conflated common slur usage of pedo (perpetrator of sexualised violence against children) or the medical condition (being sexually attracted to pre pubescent children; there is also hebo for older children). Statically most diddling happens within families (highly likely those aren’t medical pedos) or persons of trust (sport coaches, priests,…). Maybe think of it like prison rapists not being gay in most instances (just being a POS - unless they raping rapists)
Solkin
For some sick bastards its all about the power imbalance and the age and gender of the victim is less relevant than hurting someone
Higure
No, they are pedos if they have feelings and desires towards kids. What they DO to kids is entirely separate from that.
MasterMookie
True I bet some people in the pedophile sexual abuse pictures/videos business just do it for the money. Act is where it counts.
Higure
(More or less entirely in parallel to how homophilia is about who you want to be with, not who you actually are and aren't with.)
Badprenup
Yeah specifically it's being a pedophile vs being a child molester. There's a lot (a LOT) of overlap, but there are pedophiles that realize their desires are wrong, don't act on them, and seek help. And there are some child molesters who do it to exert power and control over others without having actual attraction to children.
fititallinyourmouth
Lethous
I see on X all the time of MAGAs thinking we want to protect bill and Hillary.
Like I give a flying fuck about bill and Hillary Clinton. If they are that list, fuck em.
Feanordidnothingwrong3000
They fundamentally don't understand that non-trump people don't worship their politicians. For example, they think when they're "dunking" on Biden it "owns the libs" because when people dunk on trump, it hurts their feelings, so turnabout is fair play, right? Only, nobody really cares about Biden, and that also makes them angry
drochleprechaun
I've always voted democrat, because they have been the least evil option my whole life. Never liked one. Obama was my favorite and if he got jailed for war crimes with all the drone strikes on civilians I wouldn't disagree with the decision.
Politicians need to earn respect and very few even try.
LokilairTTV
Mamdani, Bernie, and AOC are the closest I've ever seen to politicians actuslly trying to earn the respect of the public.
drochleprechaun
Sorry, I meant that I've never liked one that I voted for in a presidental general election.
There are a few governors/mayors/congress people that I quite like, but the Dem establishment tends to shit on them constantly.
Lethous
Haven't really read enough to Mandani. But there's been several times I've successfully convinced MAGA people I know that Bernie and AOC are good politicians. I've framed it they aren't in the pocket of interest groups like some of the "brand names" in congress, they aren't gonna parrot the company line. They have beliefs, and they stand by them. Disagreement is okay, but respect them because they actually believe their own words and aren't fake. Flip side of this is Massie and sometimes Rand.
OctaviaMinor
Yet we still get those not a drag queen post reporting pedophiles when there are quite a few of them. I can supply the sauce if you'd like
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
A list of 2, both coming from non-credible links. Yeah, that definitely counteracts the literal 1000s of "not a drag queen" posts...
fititallinyourmouth
Not sure what point you're trying to make but this still applies. Do try and keep up.
Killerman1997
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kittyfajitas
So do it
OctaviaMinor
https://readlion.com/child-pornography-charges-against-drag-queen-move-to-federal-court/
kittyfajitas
Two does not an epidemic make. I doubt you'll find many people on this platform that would claim drag queens and trans people are *incapable* of being pedos. That is statistically impossible. It's not prevalent in the community, though. Esp not enough to justify fucking legislation against them. But if you look at the pages and pages and pages and pages and PAGES of nadq posts, I think it's pretty clear which demographic the problem is stemming from. It's not the LGBTQ community.
OctaviaMinor
I’d say if you weigh the stats by number of priest convicted to drag queens/lgbt members it’s not a far off comparison. And it sucks because I’m trans and want the best for my community but the constant push that there are no weirdo’s in it, well is weird to me.
OctaviaMinor
https://thepostmillennial.com/drag-queen-sex-offender-arrested-again-for-sexual-offenses-with-minors
TheHornyCactus
Give us a source from an actual credible source or website, not some slap together crap, give us a CNN, NBC, BBC etc link
OctaviaMinor
almost always the other ones are using local new sources but sure.
Here is one from NBC:
https://www.nbc26.com/news/local-news/sex-offender-arrested-after-volunteering-with-children-at-green-bay-dance-studio
NoxiousRed
Zeeall
Everyone but the republicans agree on it.
16KTS
I think some Republicans are seeing this differently now too. Some not all.
jasondeslin
Yeah, when a Dem is caught, they have to resign and vanish because their careers are over and their friends turn on them.
Reps turn on the victims for speaking out, and say the pervert should be forgiven and never face any consequences.
The two sides are NOT the same.
ArkoneAxon
Oh, so Bill Clinton had to resign and vanish... oh wait, no he didn't. Stop pretending that Epstein wasn't friends with Trump AND Clinton (AND Obama, AND a whole host of others on both sides).
frozenlake247
Look at the top comment (currently). That rapid button pressing even though it says “but Clinton”?
The position as top comment (and that the gif has been all over Imgur etc for a few days at least) suggests pretty clear agreement/consensus that few folks around are interested in defending Clinton if he/they are on the list.
ArkoneAxon
Look at the downvotes that happen every time someone points out that Clinton has been demonstrably guilty of sexual crimes (including actual SA) for decades. That suggests pretty clear hypocrisy - people like to claim they'd go after both sides, but the moment you call on them to do so they start trying to rationalize and defend their own side. (again: BOTH sides... as in, Republicans did it too when Newt Gingrich and others got caught being ALMOST as scummy as Clinton)
HitandRyan
You just proved his point.
jasondeslin
With President Clinton there are rumors that have never been investigated. He should be investigated, but those rumors didn't appear until long after he was out of office.
As to President Obama, you've just outed yourself. Typical lying pos stealth Nazi. Trump has dozens of sworn statements and has bragged about security assaulting minors on national TV. It's not rumor, it's fact.
No pedo gets reelected by Dems. Most Dem careers don't even survive an accusation.
ArkoneAxon
You misspelled "with President Clinton there are open accusations that resulted in the accusers being mocked and villified by the media, and those accusations took place both when he was president, and earlier in his career."
As for Obama, you've just proven my point. I neve said Obama raped kids. But he was DEFINITELY friends with Epstein, just like all the other oligarchs and politicians
https://www.yourtango.com/2017307907/bill-clinton-sexual-assault-rape-allegations-list-women-timeline
westPAguy
I perfer the 3rd option.
Tifandi
Oh no.. I hadn't heard that
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
The day he was arrested was a dark day of Imgur, indeed.
Seventytonsofmettle
What a fall from grace!
mksu
Never meet your heroes, especially if you're a 12 year old boy whose hero is Fluke Skywalker.
W0lfsbl00d
I've met, and actually partied with some heroes in metal bands and the comics/movie industry and some of them were damn amazing, made me love them even more. Others were letdowns though.
Etherealvalentine
Always felt there was something off about this guy...
forg0tton
Godamnit, people suck.
Rogerwilco1974
Oh man, what a fucking roller coaster that was.
CommunCreator
Like the old saw goes: just when you think you have lost all hope something happens and takes away a little bit of hope you didn’t know you had.
trythebleucheese
Saved the taxpayers. Good.
AnimalShenanigans
Oof, bold move to bring up bad memories, but I get it. It’s a real bummer that he was among us and someone we cared about turned out to be …. That.
zoeytg
Is it odd that I'd always thought there was something odd about him. I couldn't point to anything. But since the posts about him seemed positive and I just figured it was just me. Not that I'd really have said much, "he seems off to me." Isn't really a thing except for someone in person. And certainly not reliable. I've felt that way about someone before but got to know them and far as I know nothing wrong about them.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
I thought the third option was https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlcWd0em4xNDM1b3lzbG1ienluZ2tiY2dwdDVzZnBndnp3bDB5OXZ3cCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/qjOF6DEM3qiwo/giphy.mp4
L4dead2
CeterumCenseo
We've had a doozy of a day ...
ironymus
Rookie mistake, you put them in legs first
clarkWhogotsanity
That the more environmentally friendly option. You can use them as fertilizer now so they actually did something useful in theory
zombiejedediah
This is how I want to be put to rest
Disclaimer: I'm pretty bloody far from being a pedo
Ivalicenyan
I remember all the downvotes I got for disliking this guy for giving off pedo vibes while everyone on imgur fawned over him.
tentacularfleshscape
What was it that alerted you
Moonthatspellsmoon
Hey look on the bright side, otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell us all "I told you so"
TheDogEnd
This one actually hurt me when it happened. I was such a fan of Fluke Skywalker...I thought he was one of the good ones. Broke my heart
Gibleteousjack
I mean in all seriousness if we're talking felony 3 strikes take them out behind the jail. Why pay for someone to live in a box their entire life if they just fuck it up for others every time they get let out. Guy that stole crap from me a few years ago got caught red handed then was arrested while breaking into someones home. Served like 6 months on his 19th felony conviction before they let him out again due to over crowding. I'm sure he's a stand up citizen now and learned his lesson.
PrecogFrogOnALog
Oh wow, i saw when he was arrested, but hasn't heard about this
housev1l
Same! I only recently was wondering how far he was into his sentence but hadn't checked yet. I guess he finished it a couple years ago.
MrWobblyHead
I'd rather see them rot in prison. Death is an easy way out. They don't suffer the consequences when they're dead, because you don't experience being dead. There's no proof of an afterlife where they could be eternally punished, so we shouldn't presume there is one. So they should be punished in life.
MutantTurd
Death doesn't have to be the easy way out if you have somebody creative doing the killing.
RedOrbTalon
Yeah, but killing yourself is plenty traumatic. Also, inducing suffering in others is a secondary consideration; the primary consideration should be protecting people from harm – in this case, children. This guy won't harm any more kids
sylkysmooth
Eh. I'd prefer they die. Why let them burden both the victims and the rest of society? Cut that cancer out, don't continue to feed it, I feel.
Etherealvalentine
Yes, this is how I also feel. I don't want abusers to be given anything at all that they don't deserve. They deserve death. They don't get rehabilitated. Why allow them to continue to take from others? They should get nothing they didn't earn. They earned death by their actions. Why give them another meal at all? Why should they be given the opportunity to dream while sleeping? Or to taste again, anything good? Why should they have anything at all, that they did not earn? They earned Death.
PoopSammich
plus, sometimes you get judges that say boys will be boys and let Brock "the rapist" allen turner (who goes by his middle name the last I heard) off or a reduced sentence. That's a short time or even no time of a punishment, so mulch is a way better deal
BoobJiggle
Same, I'd rather they die. Otherwise they just burden society at the cost of like $30k - $50k a year .. PER INMATE.
Yeah, multi murderers, rapists, and especially pedos- to quote Shakespeare and the Queen of hearts: "off with their heads!"
Findrek
Incarceration should be rehabilition, not intentionally inflicting suffering on someone to feel retribution, a desire that will never really be fulfilled no matter how long they're in there. I abhor anyone who harms children, and I also dont what our penal system to continue to be and grow into even worse of a shithole where we inflict suffering and only encourage recidivism.
ayeseaturtles
This still breaks my heart. Can we trust anyone?
WarThunderLeakedMySpecs
The real trick is dusting your heart off and learning to trust again. No one is perfect and over time anyone will let you down eventually. Learning what relationships are worth fixing and how to do that is a skill.
twistedjoint
Me
ayeseaturtles
Really? https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bDRpNmhpcTV5bGZkNmQ5ZmFhY2hoYWZxeXBnMjM4czFxN2o3bHlkYSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/UTm86phGUMMQE/200w.webp
Germhole
Good fucking god, have I been asleep at the wheel for a couple of years? I only ever hear about Fluke through imgur posts. Such a waste.
Malak224
Yeah this was an absolute shocker to everybody when we found and it really makes you feel dirty for liking anything he posted.
vegivamp
He used to be a regular here, then suddenly disappeared. Shortly after, the news broke.
CrabbyBlueberry
It's difficult finding time to post on imgur when you're busy being dead.
Freakscar
"The news" at the time of his disappearing was the "he's a pedo", not the "he commited suicide" part.
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
Heard*
For all of imgur's faults. The second there was solid reason to believe the charges were accurate imgur collectively said "fuck Fluke" and I haven't seen shit on him since.
No defending him. No rationalizing.
OffStageSpring9
As it should be
LordSithis
Well, considering he died, you probably won't be hearing more about/from him
thematman92
There are very few in justifiable crimes but child pornography is one of them.
GutsTheStruggler
I'm assuming you meant unjustifiable because for a second I thought you were saying child pornography is justifiable, and I almost went off
Druidhunter77
I somehow completely missed this happening
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
It was sudden. He was everywhere on imgur. Then news broke. It was as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced by their anger
Akurei00
It was a gut punch. I think we all felt betrayed. He seemed like he was putting good out into the world and then it was shattered. We collectively decided that his presence here should basically just completely disappear. Similar thing happened with iseenipple, but that was definitely not as big of a surprise. If lassan or tinyoctopus turns out to be pedos Imma lose my shit.
Bloodsense
Imagine reading a comment seeing a stranger say they hope you aren't a pedo. What a time to be alive.
karashu2000
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scaredshirtless
I remember hearing he'd gotten caught, but I didn't hear about the suicide. Damn. I remember being shocked because he seemed like a good guy on here, but I suppose seeming like a good person is what allowed him to get away with it for as long as he did.
Medionsinger
Here in the U.K. there was a very famous celebrity called Jimmy Saville, you may or may not have heard of him. He was kind of like the Make A Wish foundation all by himself and had a television program where children wrote in for wishes and he granted them. He even got knighted. People loved him across the country. After his death all his dirty secrets came out and he was an actual monster.
qwertdeep
Yep, and BBC higher ups helped cover it up or at least had a culture where complaints weren't taken seriously. It has a lot of parallels with what the police are saying about the asian grooming gangs with how complaints weren’t taken seriously and the police claiming they didn’t do anything out of fear of jeopardising careers (they claim they’d be seen as racist if they cracked down on it, even though that has never stopped them from disproportionally targeting brown people for other crimes)
scaredshirtless
Yeah, I heard of him as a predator, but didn't realize his charitable work. It makes you wonder why these people do the good stuff - trying to make up for their evil deeds, more access, or is this who they would be if they didn't have that evil side of themselves?
GutsTheStruggler
I'm gonna guess it's a bit of all of the above
tentacularfleshscape
Maybe penance, maybe its how they rationalize "deserving" to get what they want. Lotta options
jonhamsandwich11
I don’t hate it, because now he can’t got some obscenely lenient sentence, but he still evaded the consequences of his actions
MaybeIllDisappear
I mean, what's worse than death? Especially suicide, as no matter what you do it hurts like hell while you are dying.
vegivamp
Ask the Hiroshima survivors what's worse than death.
MaybeIllDisappear
I have no doubt that surviving an atomic blast sucks, the lifetime of pain would be horrible, but they chose to survive the after effects. This study shows the amount of suicide from Hiroshima survivors was extremely low, less than 1%. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8193967/
Pevinsghost
There's an account of a woman who, when her house collapsed, her and her husband were desperately trying to dig their crying children out when the fire storm forced them away and she had to apologise to her children before abandoning them to die that she wasn't strong enough to stay and die with them. Her husband died within weeks. And she had to go on with all her reasons for living being gone.
Statistics don't really cover things like that.
Germhole
Not every suicide is the honorable Seppuku where you disembowel yourself with a Samurai blade.
MaybeIllDisappear
Dying is painful no matter how. Obviously some ways are more painful than others.
DarkBusterBaron
Isn't morphine overdose pretty painless?
FlatPlutoSociety
I dunno, spending your remaining years alternating between crippling boredom and being beaten and raped and then dying definitely sounds worse than suicide to me.
PoopSammich
Say that to Brock "The Rapist" Allen Turner (goes by his middle name the last I heard) and even then (the average prison sentence imposed in the United States is around 14 years. However, the actual time served can be shorter, averaging around 5 years. About 2% of convicted rapists receive life) soooo that doesn't sound like much of a punishment for one of the worst things a human can do to another
andwings2go
Overdose fentanyl, you just pass out and stop breathing
MaybeIllDisappear
In opioid/fentanyl overdoses your ability to breathe shuts down causing you to pass out. Your pain receptors may not be working, but it is still terrifying. (I unknowingly smoked weed laced with fentanyl).
andwings2go
It’s only terrifying because you survived ;-)
roboirishrumpelstiltskin
Hahahahaha
NudesDicksAssesBoobs
Better have trial first, as that'll help the victims and their families with trauma management etc.
Ialwayslookhungover
Im sure knowing your abuser turned themselves into a windchime helps.
Etherealvalentine
I can attest to this.
GutsTheStruggler
As someone whose abuser died unexpectedly, it actually did not help me at all and was a very emotionally confusing and tumultuous time for me. I can get it to the whys of it if need be, but I'd rather not and have you just take me at my word. It is generally not a boon for the victims the way you're implying it is.
Ialwayslookhungover
People heal in different ways. You're more mentally healthy than i am.
GutsTheStruggler
I would NOT currently describe myself as mentally healthy (going through a lot of shit right now) so thanks I guess
NudesDicksAssesBoobs
It's very common for victims to be upset about the purp dying before trial.
NotSomoneElse68
It's often upsetting for them to die, period. It's a guilt trip. I human being that they at one point liked died because of something they did. "If I hadn't said anything they wouldn't be dead"
NudesDicksAssesBoobs
Often it's good and meaningful for victims to see the creep get convicted. Sense of justice and all that. The perp can die after that, sure, but not before.
InTangier
And we can make an argument that it should probably be studied better so we can talk prevention and rehabilitation. Folks may not act upon their sexual desire, but it would be good if they had a chance to get some kind of treatment or managing the issue. It's kind of dangerous to turn this into a taboo, only addressing it when it's time to punish folks that get caught, while many are free, spreading CSAM. Threat of punishment is clearly not enough to prevent the issue, unfortunately.
Ghandiisabeast
This is what I agree with. There are those who have CSAM and spread it, and those who are MAPs and feel sick about it but are afraid to seek help because of the "quick to violence" way society is with them. People who haven't done anything and don't want to can get by, but we have no understanding with it at all to even begin to help those with the issue sort things out and feel like a functioning member of society.
InTangier
Very good point regarding how society deals with people in those circumstances. The stigma works in favour of enabling abusers because it's an ugly issue society wants to ignore. I know a situation about a dude that was pretty much lynched, while most of his life he spent time in therapy to deal with it. He had little recourse.
I get that it's a very sensible topic, but I believe all steps that can be taken towards prevention are preferable to what we have been doing so far.
GutsTheStruggler
I think you both hit the nail on the head, even as someone who was abused
InTangier
I'm really sorry about what you experienced, and I realise I have been talking out of place. I hope one day we all can look behind us and see all this as a relic of the past, and future generations are protected from abuse.