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IwishIwasJamesBond
My mother raised me, had a job and did the household all by herself.
Tryingmybestsorta
As selfish as it is, I’m grateful the furlough due to Covid gave me a break from that. I’m dreading the return to normal.
ccffeebeanxx
Yet both spouses have to be working anyway to afford all bills collectively. Even with no kids. Fucking ruined
Xenadon
Yup usually a tradeoff between enjoying the weekend and keeping the place clean...
crateo
You can do it perfectly if you really only work 40h a week and you don't have to commute. If you do overtime and drive 90m to work, then no.
TheFishFace
Or if you walk/cycle to work, then you get your exercise in then. But yeah, it's *possible* to do all this, but it's not easy. Some can't.
DoggiesAndHedgehoggies
It’s hard. I try hard but can’t do it, I am so overwhelmed all the time. I always think next week will be better but it’s a hamster wheel.
EuroCakes
This is why its called the rat race
DerFoxeh
We cook on Sundays and just have leftovers for a week.
fitlex
Just call it 'meal prep' and now you're trendy healthy fitness people!
DerFoxeh
We even meal prep for the pupper now, she gets chicken thighs or a pound of turkey a week for treats.
TheDementation
You can, you just dont get much time for hobbies, leisure, learning another skill, helping other family members, building something etc.
Calicious
I’m super excited for my first 40hr job. No more 60+ hour work weeks. No more coming home, passing out, dreaming of work & heading back in.
afahrlig
40 hour weeks? Last week I worked 119 hours. I don't even leave the hospital any longer.
MyCatLovesToHateMe
That leaves 7 hours a day for sleeping/eaiting/showering etc. - how are you on imgur?
Buffaromuffin
The secret is to have a partner the works opposite to you. Haven't seen my wife in 2 years but the laundry is folded.
Captain77
I needed that. Thank you.
Squigbobble
I didn’t know I needed that. Yet here I am, somehow relieved..
MasonHess
I'm married with a chronically ill wife and a special needs son and I can manage the first two... that't it.
burnseybuzz
That’s great! You should be proud of yourself.
ijustwantsnacksandnaps
Now add in taking care of the kids.
brucom
And sex twice a week.
aspiringgamedev
yeah but making society work less for more is humanity progression into a more evolved species AND WE CANT FUCKING HAVE THAT CAN WE
HereIsThere
Ummm... Wat? That list can totally be done with not a lot of effort. The dinner part just takes a little planning.
embytes
You guys can work 40 hours and get enough to live life ?
boberino
I somewhat agree with the argument if we’re basing it off postwar USA. But then we should also assume 2.4 children to add to the chaos.
letuswatchtvinpeace
And yard work
Katabare
I manage doing this by only sleeping 5-6 hours a night
tyrpestdeath
Then you have psychos who work refinery jobs 6/12s. Yeah you're making bank but you'll never have time to spend it.
Thorn14
Humans aren't built to work 40 hour work weeks, if you ask me.
AllTheCoolKidsPeeTheirPants
I would argue that humans worked much longer for much less back then. Cooking dinner? Okay go hunt, prep, chop wood, and milk the cow.
Omni21
You could at least do all this with your family involved. I would kill for that kind of life.
AllTheCoolKidsPeeTheirPants
I’m not so sure you would enjoy a 1700s lifestyle knowing what exist today lol
DanFendi
Good news! Your perspective is backed up by science. Prior to industrialization in the last 150 years, humans had a lot more free time.
JanglesPrime
I mean when I'm working 40 hours I'm not really working the full 40 hours. Buffer time!
LookinFineLayinDimes
I work 60 hrs a week... doomed
whiskeyvillage
40 out of 168 hours is paying for the other 128 hours you have free. You can’t do it cause you don’t want to do it.
hawks88
I cooked professionally for 5 years and cooking a meal for myself is the biggest inconvenience.
Doctorfatherson
Says a guy who has probably memorized the entire office series
ChrisMorray
This is a couple's job, yeah.
kittykat25909
I do all that. well I don't exercise but everything else is done. and I still manage to occasionally find people to date my out of shape ass
Tesseract09
So much of the western world's sense of normal was defined in the period of post war prosperity
NotASecretVampire
So what your saying is we need a new war?.....understood chief.
Tesseract09
But we've already got a war back at home at home
leperoutcastunclean
Yes, our society was based on a family structure we've spent 60/+ years trying to destroy. Longer than that, counting the extended family.
fluger
I say this all the time. Never before or after has this been possible for a majority of people.
nonfamousperson
Like people going off to live on their own after 18. Before WWII that wasn’t a thing. I am planning for my kids to have to stay longer.
cfbshank36
It was financially possible back then, not anymore though :(
ACSwineburne
That really only applies to the US, the rest of the world had to rebuild after the end of WWII.
Tesseract09
But due to the spread of US media, it's sense of normal did too.
rbudrick
You could also pay for college with a minimum wage part time job then.
MrHaveANiceDay
Clarification: so much of our sense of normal was defined during a period where we taxed the rich much more.
abobeaver5772
Except the effective tax rares were not significantly higher. No point in a 90% rate if people pay 30% after breaks. In fact it is worse
abobeaver5772
Than just having a 30% rate. People forget Reagan also purged a massive amount of these rates in his second round of reforms
chad0692
This guy's gets it
ChodeChodington
Reagan saw an incoming decline, so he sacrificed the lower to middle class top stop it. Bad move mcgroove
ButIWanttobeanonymous
The US decline is directly related to that moron's actions in the white house.
fluger
Its more than that though, white Americans were benefiting from genocide and the US was the only major power not crippled by WWII.
ZackWester
there was a few other contries that was not crippled by WW2. (Sweden).
Tesseract09
The US probably seized more German assets than Sweden did though
fluger
I meant of the major powers: USSR, UK, Germany, Japan, and USA.
pynergelado
This isn't true, self discipline has been a thing since the beginning of time. Just read ben franklin's a-biography good read and insightful
Tesseract09
Do you mean that women's rights guy?
pynergelado
On how to be successful. We just tell ourselves that society is lying to us and it's not our fault a were lazy and unmotivated
mydogisbetterthanyourdog
Ehhh...I’m a SAHP now and our family work life balance is much better since I can be household executive and get shit done during the day.
Xenolith166
That may well be the case, but the economy is a very hostile place to survive right now. Those with money are predatory to those without.
Drunkablancas
Youre suggesting we take tips on self discipline from a man who owned other people? Sure would easy to take care of my house if I had slaves
crazyspelling
http://www.benjamin-franklin-history.org/slavery-abolition-society/
Drunkablancas
I know about BF and his eventual realization that owning humans was bad. Fucking hell, the bar is low.
crazyspelling
Ben Franklin changed his mind about slavery after seeing evidence that Black children could be educated just as easily as white children.
crazyspelling
He then freed his slaves, joined the abolitionists, and petitioned congress to free all slaves. Required his kids to free their slaves too.
jaguar36
So much of our sense of normal was defined before having all this extra crap we ‘need’. Like cable, internet, cell phones, netflix, iPads..
LateNightBunnyParty
I know, right? And all that electricity and indoor plumbing has made us soft and weak, too.
DeviousWay
Fun fact, 2 complete suits in the 50s/60s cost the same as the median price of a smart phone.
AnyUsernameWillDoForMe
Whereas now the smartphone to suit ratio is 1
q2grapple
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AnyUsernameWillDoForMe
Nah, $1000 for the newest phone, sake for a half decent tailored suit.
DeviousWay
True. But the point being that suits were “required” wear for men. Kinda like cell phones are today.
AnyUsernameWillDoForMe
Still required in my line of work.
DeKetsendeRechter
Ah yes, internet, crap that we don't actually need.
pynergelado
Hit the head on the nail here, the things listed above are supposed to be personally gratifying. But we have all this extra junk now. + & -
Excludos
What has the internet ever done for us anyways?
Flowerlady0
Memes?
Excludos
Except for memes
DeKetsendeRechter
I can't tell if you're being sarcastically suave, or serious with that question.
Excludos
Let me try to make it obvious: What has the internet ever given us except massive leaps in general knowledge...
Asikar
Imma gonna have to call bullshit. I do all of those things on a weekly basis, all for the cost of a social life and or relationship...
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Whatifidontrememberthis
Imagine people complexity. Not everyone has the advantages of health or other you have. Maybe make helpful suggestions if you've cracked the
yallmfsneedjesus
Totally agree. This person is lazy. Try having a full time job, kids, a yard and do all the rest. I mean eff that guy for complaining
crazyspelling
I think the idea is that you're supposed to do all those things on a daily basis though?
AlecCorvander
Kind of same. I wish my friends would realize hanging out every moment we’re not working effects our health and mental well being...
nclu
Yeah, the 40hr work week was a hard fought battle to *make* that list possible. It doesn't even include family. May need to evaluate commute
LariCheltsy
PuzzledCompletely
Do you enjoy your weekends?
Asikar
Mostly. Working through some stuff to fix that relationship issue too. (read: in the closet till last year cuz of a "christian" upbringing.)
PuzzledCompletely
I'm proud of you, in several ways.
BlueDuckPale
Its seems to be a general observation. Some will, I can, you can, but not everyone can. 40hr works are a little old school.
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
45 hours in my country. Unless you're under article 22 of labour code. Then they own you.
DeKetsendeRechter
I think it was a sarcastic joke; they're sacrificing their social life and/or relationship to be able to pull it off. Which are basic needs.
Thneitis
I think a lot of the time, especially for exempt workers, it’s much more than 40 hours
ThePastmaster
I have half time and I barley manage.
BlueDuckPale
Just here to make you feel worse lmao. I'm also a parent, and study full time for a degree, my gym is very close by.
ThePastmaster
Good on you. Personally I need lots of down time to not rip peoples heads off.
Plaguestorm172
Especially with the "at the cost of social life and relationship" which if we are working so often to just make it by then whats point?
cphug184
A lot of jobs are salary so 50-60+ hour weeks. Doesn’t help the equation.
BlueDuckPale
A lot of jobs where are salary? My industry is the largest in uk (non gov) and we are almost exclusively 0hr contracts.
BolenArrow
This is what I was thinking... I mean really it's forming a habit and having a routine for cleaning. Dialing your habits in is a lot harder>
BolenArrow
for people now because they add in 10-30 hrs of losing their train of action to their phone. No phone, 2 hrs of focus work, crazy results.
JPRiddles
Exactly. If I didn't have my phone I'd get out of bed when I woke up on weekends and not spend 4 hours looking at it like I did today :(
philopsyche
This is me. I'm in great shape, make good money, cook, clean, and have never had a relationship. I'm 30 ?
RiverRoyal
Get fat, live In squalor, eat takeouts. Fuck.
MrJackedBroccoli
I currently have a a full time job and a personal trainer part time. House is spotless and have a social life. It's really not all that hard
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
You are one of the rare people who manage then I guess.
batmanbumantics
Do you live alone?
Ironyminefield
How dare you have your life together.
PunchyFromCleveland
It may not be for you, but some of these people have kids and other responsibilities or difficulties that you may not.
MrJackedBroccoli
I agree theres always variables. But people can't act like there life is unmanageable because of other things
PunchyFromCleveland
I get it, but severe depression, PTSD, physical disabilities, etc. can make everyday tasks insurmountable. I’m just saying not everyone>>
greentights
It helps when you're getting paid more than $15/hour or have a trust fund
MrJackedBroccoli
I worked 2 jobs throughout college to afford rent and food. And continue to work 2 jobs. People will always find excuses. In human nature
greentights
I worked throughout college too. But being a workaholic isn't healthy. Working means that you've fundamental rights to basic needs. They >>
crazyspelling
What about cooking though?
MrJackedBroccoli
When ever I cook throughout the week I make more than one portion at a time. Refrigerate or freeze some. When I'm short on time heat one up.
MrJackedBroccoli
And I'm ready to go
mmmdonutss
Yes. I hope working from becomes the regular if that is an option for people. It adds hours to MY time
Asikar
Kinda hard to work from home in manufacturing. ;)
mmmdonutss
What type!?
Asikar
Electronics mostly.
RickyIWannaGoFastBobby
Robotics will help with that in the future.
iamthugnasty
It will also help him not have a job...
redpandabanana
It’s the same with any innovation. You will lose jobs in what the robots do but you gain other jobs such as building/maintaining the robots
RickyIWannaGoFastBobby
Robotics could be remotely operated. Saw a video recently of miners who sit in a room in a city and operate the equipment remotely in a mine
fennecbutt
I suppose we should be crying for horseback couriers, too.