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Another dystopian idea to secure the system keeps a healthy influx of indentured servants.
Mar 23, 2025 6:37 PM
espaciopantalones
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Another dystopian idea to secure the system keeps a healthy influx of indentured servants.
Svartsinn
You are closer to being homeless than you are to being a billionaire. Don't think it can't happen to you. Automation is coming for us all and even stable, secure federal jobs are no longer safe.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
AnUnfortunateFreezeFrame
taking out loans to feed yourself on takeaways was not on my bingo card of dumb things people spend money on.
boobookittyfuc
I just saw this was a thing yesterday…. How….
Rynestrm
My old neighbor use to get DoorDash delivers like 3-4 times a week. Nothing was stopping him from getting it himself. I can’t imagine the money he spent on just delivery fees. Probably a month’s rent. Cooking is so easy. I spent 30 min cooking today and now have 4 dinners ready to go.
bekindtoanimals
Cook.At.Home.
TNSCLuotaMEa4fVN
Dear Lord!
RevolutionOnHerLips
I gotta be honest I haven't eaten in a few days and if I could put a frozen pizza on loan I absolutely would lmao. I don't get my social security payment until next week. It's so fucking hard to think about anything when you're hungry.
TheMightyMollusk
People act surprised when I tell them I only have one credit card, and it only has a $300 limit. I only use it for a couple of subscriptions and the occasional preorder, and only that because I needed at least one card to build a credit history. If I can't afford something, I either save up or don't buy it.
hushpuppyextraordinaire
Be smarter than the system trying to enslave you . Only you can because the the government it trying to help the enslavers
CatSparkleBreaker
chipotle-away
InablueMule
Solution. Kuners pinto beans with Jalapenos and chips. Always keep stocked. Been on the road 9 days had 1 restaurant meal. Lots of McDs senior coffees tho. Going out for lunch tomorrow tho, Pacific Coast
dixxienormus
Why oh why do people choose to pay 22% more for food unless they are unabled to do it themselves by cooking nutritious food at home. Then complain about inflation.
putcleverusernamehere
This is nothing but another payday loan scam.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
People who need an installment plan for McDonald's probably aren't going to be tipping very well. Door dash base pay is $2 for any distance. Fucking unsustainable bullshit.
DragoWhooves
what's next? paying Dashers in DoorDash Credit?
SnorHEEdenRAden
Put it on my tab
Eldibs
This sounds like they're intentionally saddling themselves with bad debt. The kind of people who would build up "DoorDash debt" seem like the kind of people to not pay it off.
itsallaboutthecones
Fuuuuuuuuuuck Dave Ramsey. He is an out of touch, ivory tower, christofacist prick.
flavivsaetivs
Dave Ramsey is completely out of touch with reality, dude thinks the economy still works like it's 1970.
psstuphere
Fuck Klarna. Kick them out while you can. Been using poor swedes for years
RickRollEditor
Norway here. Unfortunately, Klarna is by FAR the best and quickest way to pay online in Norway. Unless you count PayPal, but very few sites up here support PayPal. Paying by card is a whole process in Norway, having to pull up the BankID app for verification and all that. We do have Vipps though, but again, very few sites support Vipps as well.
MissSiesta
I always try to use Vipps. I don't like anyone siding with fascists.
whatsisname
Dave Ramsey is a Trump supporting piece of shit that should die choking on his own vomit.
Avenkal19
InablueMule
Would not know if he walked past me.
itsallaboutthecones
He's such a fucking asshole that acts like his very basic budgeting principles are something revolutionary.
MAup
I have my bank attached with klarna. Klarna offers a spoofed card each time you pay online. Pretty secure and billed later is a choice, you can pay directly too
CaptainWeirdoMcBeardo
Can't wait to see Caleb Hammer reach new octaves in anger.
WoopDeFrickenDoo
this timeline can't end well for him
Cmbyrd0001
11k in Door Dash debt? That's what, like dinner for two?
baldewok
The payment was 5 minutes late.
Rendova
Door Debt?
lostlittletimeonthis
They both wanted omelette
Ffudmethen
Time to order some 150 proof liquor some rags and a lighter
kickmyballsrealhard
They also got drinks
Level21Magikarp
I Uber eats for a bit and people would get a soda from a separate gas station with their order. They typed well and it is their money so I got them the orders.
Youragent
That's how they get ya.
loma45
"Place order and continue Dashpass"
Fuckers check that by default every time
arajad
The first time I saw a deal like this on a website, I was ordering like $15 of stuff, and was told I could make four interest-free payments of $4.50. Do the math. These people can get stuffed.
itsallaboutthecones
20% interest in "fees"?
Ambipolar
Imagine in the 2040s when the US are having their (mock) elections and the politicians are talking about forgiving Pokémon card vending machine debt and one of the newly appointed government officials is a former Pokémon vending machine fighting star.
GrandmasterSpank
You're talking about 2026.
PhoenixFalling
Like he fights the vending machines?
ToastedEggSandwich
I haven't played pokemon since it moved to the Switch but I'm told that basically everything is a Rotom now, so yeah, he probably fights the vending machine
Ambipolar
No, they uh.. fight over the privilege of using the vending machine. It's already a pro sport but I'm foreseeing actual championships might still take a few years.
NoneGone
The US isn't going to make it to the 2040s. At this rate it'll be lucky to make it to the 250th anniversary as a single nation.
transhumanisticrecluse
maybe they'll lay down a memorial parking lot.
freshthrowaway1138
The Holy Roman Empire lasted for a hundreds years after the fall of Rome and Constantinople. It just got smaller. By the 2040's, the US will probably be a relocated to Raven Rock to control the town there.
Enoan
Yeah. The American Golden Age is over, but that doesn't mean the whole country and people just evaporate. There's a lot of ways things can decay.
freshthrowaway1138
Agreed, I just thought it would be funny to see some form of government still calling themselves the USA while only controlling a tiny town and a bomb shelter inthe mountains of PA.
reformedxile
people shouldn't go into debt to buy food, nor to get medical help
1010001
Wasting money on Door Dash/Uber Eats/etc. is another thing though.
itsallaboutthecones
It's almost like there should be a central authority, one that "governs?" I don't know if that's the correct word. Maybe that govern...ment? Could take....tax? a little of what people make each year and use that to help pay for food and medical bills for those that don't make as much. Nah, it could never work. Not sure what I was thinking....
UncleRat
I was working with a member trying to help them set up a basic budget when I looked at their credit union statement and saw they spent a third of their after-rent income on DoorDash. I could not convince them it was an unnecessary expense.
TheAdjuster
i don't understand doordash (unless you can't drive due to disability/dui/no car). the price is already a few bucks higher if you order food through their app and then you gotta tip the driver, so you're paying 5-10$ more per order than if you drove there to get it yourself. i've never used any of their apps and i don't order from restaurants that use them on their online ordering either.
porphyre1e00
Unfortunately, in my area, Doordash is taking over pizza delivery. So $15 for a pizza, $2 tax, $4.99 delivery fee (Door Dash) - which they make clear doesn't go to the driver. So $3 or $4 tip for the driver. Almost $30 for a pizza..... ugh.
Pizza delivery was free for 50 years....
JustAnotherPOG
I used Doordash a lot when I was working tons of OT. Being able to go to the grocery store a lot less often and not having to get up early to prep multiple meals was very much worth it. Paid for itself and then some with the extra hours I was able to do. That's a pretty niche case where it's actually worth it though.
mektel
I really just don't want to live in a society where companies can prey on people like this. This is just taking advantage of people that lack impulse control, or are too stupid to realize how dangerous it is. "Don't be dumb", "Not going to affect me" are not reasons to allow this.
Mechwarrior719
It’s the same with those online sports books.
baals
This is late stage capitalism. Middle men everywhere. Middle men for the middle men. Always gotta make a profit. Numbers have to go up forever for it to work. Capitalism is going to fail.
aducksayswhat
I'd say because it has gotten to the state it is now it's really difficult to solve. One part is how do you regulate/ban/disincentivize convenience, or bundling a delivery service plus fast food plus loans or whatever financial engineering is going on, or unbundled each separately.
aducksayswhat
Another part would be how do you make it so people don't feel this is something they want. Is it the variety of reasons that they can't cook themselves a good meal, cooking skills, time-poor, kitchen and storage available to them, etc. Is there a social pressure to do it, if they really must have fast food can't they get it themselves (locations near home, urban sprawl, etc), is it escapism, wanting food variety?
electronicbovine
The need for a vehicle to get food coupled with a variety of reasons why someone wouldn't/can't cook at home
KarlRoyGabriel
Not to mention door dash’s absurd mark ups and fees. They charge restaurants a premium to use the service, and charge more for the products than the actual restaurants do. DoorDash charges customers higher premiums on delivered items and households too. They straight up tell you NOT TO LEAVE THE RECEIPT in the bag when they have dashers do in store shopping. It’s a racket. This news with Klarna is even more alarming, since I’m sure there’ll be some nominal fee for every use…
PetuniaPlanter
What like a consumer protection bureau or something? It's a good idea, but we did vote on this like 5 or 6 months ago and we have to follow the will of the people.
yupzy
TBF if this means that a person with no money can eat and survive, i feel like "some idiots going bankrupt" is an acceptable loss.
Penelelop
I wonder if people with untreated ADHD or Autism are disproportionately affected. Cos of the poor executive functioning and impulse spending
OdinYggd
Would depend on their adaptive skills. Cause some would see right through the obvious problems and refuse to take doordash at all.
andsy
Oh no. We are not stupid. We see right through it all. But then we still do it, eyes wide open, and are incredibly frustrated with ourselves all the way through. Because we don’t have good enough executive functions for controlling our behavior in accordance with our knowledge. Yes, it sucks just as bad as it sounds like. Probably worse.
xxValiumxx
I suspect this is true, which aside from the increased costs, is why I haven't even considered using these kind of delivery services.
xxValiumxx
Well, considered it, decided on no.
andsy
Yes. Yes we are. And I’m sort of medicated. But still.