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Tell me your part of the problem without telling me you're part of the problem.
Sep 16, 2021 11:38 PM
Dudeeronomy
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Tell me your part of the problem without telling me you're part of the problem.
Dolenmorgul
This sounds more like a threat than a piece of advice
wowzilla1
Wow what a way to encourage identity theft
stinkbeaner
"We wouldn't murder you guys so much if y'all weren't always reachin for shit." - Deputy Dickfuck
jsdigman6
dazedjosh
Surely this isn't real. This is fucking insane.
Yummybubblez
Admit you're a psychotic murderer with saying it
ILikePugandFrenchiePictures
My father has had guns pulled on him more than once for getting his wallet out when asked.
woozle
what.the.fuck.
Artwel
A.me.rica.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Fuck.yeah
LawFiveGuy
"Of course I shot him. He didn't have his 'chauvin bag' where I could see it" - Next cop who kills a citizen
TwoSeamer
Chauvin bag. I think I threw up in my mouth a little
maincarrot
"officer, my bag slid and is in the well of my passenger foot area. May I please reach for it?" "Yes, but I will shoot you if you get it"
KaraokeLemur
", and twice if you don't."
CarlottaVonSprockett
What seems so ironic to me about Chauvin is that there was a supposed historical French soldier who was so passionately patriotic that /1
CarlottaVonSprockett
he was awarded by Napoleon for being wounded 17 times in battle, but still serving out of a blind and unthinking loyalty. He’s the source /2
CarlottaVonSprockett
of the term “chauvinist” which is used to describe a bigoted, hatefully patriotic person. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Chauvin /3
CarlottaVonSprockett
So Derek Chauvin, a racist bigot, is REALLY living up to his namesake. A true chauvinist. 4/4
JDAB0
Maybe I’m outta line but maybe cops can not be a bunch of pussies and feel the need to pull guns on folks for simple traffic stops
UavinAGiggowMate
Every time I got stopped by cops they became visibly annoyed when I tried to be extra informative about reaching for my docs
ZathrasSquared
'I had to kill him cause he got too talky.'
Imheretoupvotebecauseisuckatposting
They have a point. The real problem is people getting their licenses out as directed. It's all civilians' faults. /s
FierceAndAdorable
Sauce: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/30/us/not-reaching-pouch-police-shooting-race-traffic-trnd/index.html
jliviKittenJunkie
A very American post
nomadgeo9000
It's an extremely damning statement about law enforcement if this sort of thing is required in the hope of not getting killed by them ?
CarlottaVonSprockett
We COULD train our officers better, but that sounds hard. So instead we’re putting the burden of not dying on YOU! You’re welcome.
AdventuresInMinnesota
Same thing as the idea of your carbon footprint. Just passing the blame onto the victims.
AllHailYourOneTrueOverlord
This is so obscene and unbelievably fucked I would like to think it was a joke. But then I remember *gestures at the whole of America*
YouEatYellowSnow
YouEatYellowSnow
In their June meeting. mn.gov/cmah/assets/June Meeting Minutes_tcm32-493660.pdf?sourcePage=%2fcmah%2fboard%2fmeeting-docs%2findex.jsp%3fnull
RichardCypherRahl
Is the second part a threat or a promise?
ZathrasSquared
Yes.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
No. I get the idea, but no. Cops aren't killing due to a lack of these, they're killing because they're taught to, and because they can.
operationcwal
Nope. The pouch hanging on air vent fell and as the suspect reached to grab it I had to pump him full of lead, even though I saw it drop and
operationcwal
He asked if he can go grab the ID sack that fell on the ground.
operationcwal
You know because after I gave him consent I was fearful of my life, as a trained LEO handling deadly firearms.
operationcwal
We will find a way to treat you... the way you deserve to be treated. - "Hero" Cop -
aChungusAmongUs
What a way to address cops killing people… damn
HamshanksCPS
"Do what we say or we'll fucking murder you"
CeterumCenseo
"We will also give you conflicting instructions, so when you don't follow them, we will murder you!"
KodiakDDS
No one is doing anything about the cops killing people. This is fucking awful to have to do but if it saves lives, why not eh?
corvettee01
Yeah, I'm sure all the innocent people they're killing are really saving lives in the long run.
FantabulousMan
You think cops can read? They'll shoot you and say they thought there was a weapon or drugs in the pouch or something.
KodiakDDS
That's actually a really good point
some1username
"Because it's your fault we're killing you, so use this bag to make it harder to find excuses to kill you!" -cops
spaceseed83
Considering how much people hate cops, even the good ones are running high anxiety rn. There could be anything in someones glovebox
spaceseed83
Even tho I'm a tiny white girl I still keep my hands on the wheel until they come to my window and them what I'm reaching for and where
sadcoyote
there are no good ones. well keep saying it until everybody gets it. bad apples all the way down.
ruiz43694
Just like there are no "good people" I mean take a good look at yourself. The problem does not lie on one side but on both.
sadcoyote
so you think the problem of cops murdering people, especially POC, lying, and abusing their power lies with me too? weird. also, your
sadcoyote
comment is a weird ad hominem but good job i guess
ruiz43694
You point the finger at a group of bad cops but don't point the finger on the bad of society. That is what I'm saying.
spaceseed83
*is related to a good one*
sadcoyote
i’m sure it’s comforting to think so. ask them how many times they’ve looked the other way for their brothers. bad apples all the way down.
digitaloutlawactual
If only there was some other way
Erutanmi
“We shoot you when you don’t deserve it, you fix it.”
superunderpants
Well now its the publics fault the police murder them. Man I hate to use this phrase but acab
ruiz43694
Well people don't seem to understand how to comply.
InfocalypseRising
Is it transparent? I can't tell. If not there's no reason you couldn't just put a knife or whatever in there.
Hammerwell
You can mold C4 pretty flat if you're at it.
BSwann
Nice bit of Anthrax and whack the vents on full blast.
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
Unfortunate cops are trained the public is a threat. A cop that will forgo public safety & rights in favor of officer safety is a coward.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
they're trained?
reverendbonobo
Barely, but yes.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
I guess improper and negligent training is still technically a type of training...
DXAshram
Oh, absolutely. Trained to shoot first, ask questions never and that you can only trust yourself and your fellow officers.
NCPilot
Maybe cops shouldn't be killing people on the flimsiest of context? Like goddamn, Cops can't control their trigger finger, so we have... 1/
NCPilot
to modify our behavior just to not get shot? This is some girl in High School bullshit. 2/
BSwann
Do me a favour Google Napa California Feb 17 and watch the bodycam footage
NCPilot
Do me a favor and look up reasonable use of force.
HypnoJack
Police are trained to think everyone in the public can be out to shoot them. But…why??
LathiArcanus
Partly for the excuse. Also, fear breeds the need for training programs to reinforce the idea and the "need" for all that cool commando gear
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Because the US had a gun problem.
HypnoJack
has*
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Oh lol yes, typo.
HypnoJack
Just making sure you don't think the US gun problem went away. :p
ruiz43694
Because everyone is out to just that. Look at all the hate just from this post. You think one of them is not willing to take a shot.
ruiz43694
Look up at video of police shootings, not the one sided shit the media wants you to see, look at their bodycam footage and ask yourself
ruiz43694
Would you had done it different and how.... Ever had a situation where you almost died?.. think of what you felt that moment now.
HypnoJack
And this training resulted in how many wrongful deaths because they THOUGHT the person was reaching but wasn’t? The hate for cops is /1
HypnoJack
BECAUSE of things like this happening constantly and them getting away with it. /2
ruiz43694
And how many cops that did not act died when someone was reaching. Why is their life any less valuable.
APassingPlasticBag
Or how about this...DONT. SHOOT. PEOPLE. WITHOUT. CAUSE.
BSwann
Do me a favour Google Napa California Feb 17 and watch the bodycam. Shit can go from 0-100 instantly. Steve Lehto does a good video on what
BSwann
To do in a traffic stop, everyone should be doing their best to make everyone's life easier.
cAPTNcAPSLOCK
Yes, but no. The thought alone that "everybody has to be doing their best..." shows that there is a fundamental problem.
BSwann
Yeah the fundamental problem is guns are so available that cops will treat you as armed because they want to go home at the end of the day.
ThisIsGerbilReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
So everytime i go into the car i need to put my license in this and take it when done... that's asking a lot lol
notabotandnotnotabot
You would rather force the police to assume you aren't planning on killing them and they're only recourse is to shoot you? That's lazy /s
lopsidedqueen
Well…. Only if you’re black
lelk
You can make a paper copy of your driver’s license to keep in your car. I do that in case I lose or have my wallet stolen.
Jatenffxiv
A "solution" to a problem that should not exist.
doubleTbone07
No it's ok, it's only if you're black
ThrownClub
Maybe we should ban traffic stops
ArandomDane
That this would most likely save lives in the US should make you stop and think....
HeraldOfTheBadger
You could just ticket by license plate to the owner ... Unless it's stolen then that would extra suck
SenfinaZeit
How will police make their slush funds if they can't make money illegally ticketing people?
SatanicSpirals
Carjackings just got way more profitable. Identity and a car!
CelestialSea
Much easier than enforcing restraint on the police. I mean they literally HAVE to be able to murder at will or they can't do their jobs!
HisDudness
And yet there's this wild concept of 'escalation of force' taught in any basic firearms course which they don't seem to understand.
TyrionLannisterTheImp
It was my understanding most LEOs in the US don't attend those courses, or if they do, it's only once in their career.
CelestialSea
They'd rather go see the guy who tells them they're a predator who should be ready to kill at all times and sex is amazing after a kill.
CelestialSea
He's trained the vast majority of US law enforcement. Your tax dollars hard at work.
HisDudness
So then why is the police force trained less than a fourteen-year-old kid who just wants to go hunting with his pops?
SirBonSama
Because the police union and the thin blue line refuses to have any punishment for the bad apples... ruining the whole bunch.
CelestialSea
There's also the course where they teach you that the best sex you'll ever have is after you kill someone. Sadly I am not joking.
HisDudness
That sounds like something a sociopath would say.
CelestialSea
That's not even the scariest shit he teaches. Search Dave Grossman, he's trying too hard to live up to his name, but I'd say he overdid it.
theangryjanitor
Do you want to live?
A1J1K1
By this reasoning it should be perfectly acceptable for me to shoot any cop that rest their hand on their gun as they walk up.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
It shouldn't be a choice like that. Other countries deal with the problem without shooting innocent people just fine.
CelestialSea
Yes, that's why I don't live in Minnesota, or anywhere the police can kill for no valid reason without repercussions.
SamStrelitz
Where aren't police allowed to kill people?
IronMansRightHand
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vicvalour
Most 1st world counties
CelestialSea
Read it again, out loud if you have to, and you'll see your question doesn't even make sense. Keep reading after the part you were triggered
HisDudness
I myself am still looking for the triggering part. Is it where they make the dumbass conclusion that the problem isn't nation-wide?
ThisIsGerbilReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
Yes and laugh, love lol
MyAssholeSpeaksFrenchLikeBillyCorganOnARollercoaster
You basic bitch. LOL!
ThisIsGerbilReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
Lol yep
VPpuppetmaster
Not in this economy
roguishdrummer
leoeve
Oof
operationcwal
Brettkeen
DIS
Thevelvetfog
Fucking hell. Being from the UK I just cannot wrap my head around this shit.
What3Birds
Yeah, I've been pulled over 3x in 25 years.. no weapon, once speeding and twice cause the cop was pointing out something that needed fixing
PoppinLochNessHopster
I cannot wrap my head around how much surveillance you guys are under. It's like V for Vendetta over there.
GeForcen
I'm from England, I have never even thought about it or even really noticed. I have also never been shot for driving or being black.
DietCokeIsTheBest
Oh nooooo…someone can see me walking in a public place…
What3Birds
Eh... No and yes, city centres yes (I've been in control rooms) but there's been terrorist attacks in UK since before CCTV.. that's the goal
What3Birds
The use of state controlled CCTV for aggressive enforcement is non-existant.. it's mostly traffic routing and civil security
What3Birds
(monitoring events for crowd safety etc)
BigDaddysMeatWagon
We are too, buddy. I promise.
PoppinLochNessHopster
Not even slightly close. I don't think you know how the UK does it. Unless you're out in the woods you're on camera.
cheesecutter
I’d rather be shot by camera…
PoppinLochNessHopster
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Assholefullofelbows
My standard protocol. Keys out of the ignition placed on the roof of the vehicle, hands 10&2, I dictate out loud exactly what I'm going to1/
pfshfine
And dome light on if it's night time
MBdub210
Are you a person of color, @OP?
iwrotethisonthetoilet
TIA… this is America
roscophish77
Same, except I don’t do the thing with the keys. I sit completely still at 10&2 until they are at the window & then dictate the whole time
sadurdaynight
I ride motorcycles. What I do is stay straddled on bike, but remove helmet & gloves & keys from ignition to show I'm not a flight risk. 1/
cAPTNcAPSLOCK
what the fuck is wrong with america? Flight risk? at a routine traffic stop?
sadurdaynight
Had bad dealings with cops. My motto is "it's not that I don't trust you, it's that I can't afford to trust you."
sadurdaynight
By staying straddled on bike, it makes it clear I'm also not a risk for running./
MrSaturday
Last time I stopped for a cop on my bike they kicked me over. I then learned to just ride off the road.
pangolinx
I was taught this as a middle class suburban white boy. 23 years later I would do it as a 40 yo white lawyer. *That doesn't make it ok.*
crazyspelling
Dittoooooo
lurksohardmotherfuckerswannafindme
Keys on the dash if it’s a statie. Car off and left in if it’s a local. I don’t need them grabbing my keys cause they feel like it.
lurksohardmotherfuckerswannafindme
Other than that…same.
hotrodny
Make a hook inside the car, visible but showing to be hard to reach for you.
YourIceCreamMan
I have a metal wallet. "Office I want you to feel safe- please shine your light on my right pocket- I'm removing a black metal wallet"
Erythrotrichophile
I have a black metal wallet too...and I never considered this. You might have just saved my life.
ohfudgecicles
Realizing now how many times I could've been shot for how much I start rummaging immediately when pulled over.
BlackCatCasper
I love freedom
cAPTNcAPSLOCK
the freedom to feel threatened by a routine traffic stop. I love the US from afar. You can't make this shit up.
Mombeater
If you get pulled over so much you have a standard protocol, maybe you should just start driving safer.
atrielienz
Ah. The privilege talking.
atrielienz
Literally taught this by my parents. Literally taught this to my kid.
Scorch052
I mean this is what almost every cop would prefer ppl do. Even beyond "omg don't shoot me" logic, it'll make the interaction easier.
PhilthyCasual
Where are you from that you don’t worry, mister Judgement McHorriblename?
CAAFlo
That's crap. I'm a white man and even I was taught car off, hands on the wheel, interior lights on, ask permission before grabbing anything
crazyspelling
4 times in 25 years, and I have a protocol. Do I need to drive safer, or, and this is more likely, are you a prick?
Assholefullofelbows
Nah man, I almost never do. My step dad was a cop, I was trained as a cop in the Navy though I had a drastically different job
Hammerwell
Wouldn't it be better to lay spread eagled on the tarmac pleading not to get shot?
crazyspelling
Nooooope.
Hammerwell
Why? You clearly pose no danger.
CabooseNomerson
You’re just making it easier for them to shoot you in the back or suffocate you if you do that. They don’t have morals like most people do.
soupiswhatitsoundslikewhenyoueatsoup
There was a caretaker of an autistic man who was explaining loudly and clearly that he didn't have a gun, posed no threat, and he was the
soupiswhatitsoundslikewhenyoueatsoup
caretaker of the autistic man, who had been playing with a toy truck. The caretaker was laying on his back, arms straight to the sky
ChristopherHallett
As a whitey in Australia I shut off the engine and get out of the car.
IdaSpear
Same in New Zealand. Upon alighting the vehicle, I get out and spread my arms apart from my sides and say, "what the fuck?"
FamousOnce
My partner's cuzzy is a cop - we did exactly this when he pulled us over (In my car so didn't recognise us)
ChiliBeef
HisDudness
In the States they'll shoot you for getting out of the car. That's even scarier for them than you sitting there menacingly.
xxPaulCPxx
Yup. Last time I did that the cop had his hand on his gun ready to draw and was raising his voice to tell me to stay in the car.
Assholefullofelbows
Do. I'm going to lean over and use my right hand to open the glove box etc all the way through the traffic stop
xxPaulCPxx
When I open the glove box, I put my hand back on the wheel and then ask them if it's OK for me to reach into the glove compartment. Slowly.
dea5252
And still alive to tell the story.
waitwhat1234
I'm sorry you have to do this to survive a traffic stop
BallsGoBounceBounceBounce
And pray to god my tourettes doesn't kick in
KingXizor
I am reaching into the glovebox for FUCKSHITPIG
GayCanadianJew
Don’t you think it’s kind of sad that you have to put in a whole performance to help the cache of you not getting shot for no reason?
LordOfThePenguin
Yes. Yes, we do.
Scorch052
Traffic stops are how most cops die. Not defending them, but caution on both ends is reasonably warranted.
deadman320
...and being ready to shoot someone dead cuz u chose to have power over safety doesnt mean i should fear for my life over a bad blinker
wtforero
Garbage men are more likely to die on the job than cops, their job isn’t as deadly as they make it seem
RogerTwoThree
Bullshit.
Scorch052
In researching it more I've come to find it's definitely not "most" and shouldn't have made that claim. Still not an insignificant portion.
doombabies
Taxi drivers have a higher chance of dying on the job than a cop. The highest cause of death for cops pre-covid was suicide.
Frederf
Old age after retirement is. Don't lie.
Scorch052
Ah damn you got me. That is definitely an on-the-job danger for cops.
HolyIsis
Covid is how most cops die nowadays and I don't see them being that cautious about it.
Scorch052
Every cop I've seen in person has been masked up, but I suppose it's ultimately a regional thing on that front.
Deadmanwalkn
Statistically, they're in much more danger from themselves. Eating themselves to death, suicide, and car accidents are the leading causes
CALAMOSCOPYJANE
Shooting themselves, each other, etc
Scorch052
Didn't think I needed to clarify "on-the-job". My b
caledric
I'm white, a CO, and a veteran. I get out of the car, and start up a conversation with the cop. Usually ask him if I'll be getting...
Wookieoo7
Im an Aussie but I haven’t yet seen a case where the police are fine with anyone getting out of their car until asked. Hell pretty sure it
3006mv
Yeah but he’s white
icarusbird02
Think you missed the joke...you silly c-word.
Wookieoo7
Doesn’t even fly here in Australia to get out before asked to
Lvaneede
I did the first time I got pulled over, just because I didn't really know what to do. Also in Aus
caledric
Yeah but the reason you don't get out of your car is cause you are afraid of the wildlife. Not everything is out to kill us here in the US.
caledric
Just the Republicans.
Cashgrinder
And the cops
caledric
any new inmates to watch over that he is personally aware of.
Assholefullofelbows
Can't do that here unless you know they've already run a 28/29. The cops till straight get outta the car guns out
caledric
You must not be white then.
Assholefullofelbows
Does it matter?
ChainmailleAddict
Dude, getting out of the car is NOT AN AMERICAN THING. They come to you, if you get out they're on high alert and ready to chase here.