She's really into Roller Coaster Tycoon, Bigfoot podcasts, and Star Wars, while tolerating that Im into Most Sci-fi, Colony sim/Base builders AND she likes to touch my wee wee while letting me touch her who ha.
I knew girls who were "Hollywood quirky" MPDG-types. In real life, they're several kinds of unstable, including one who engaged in criminal behavior against an ex-boyfriend. Think "yandere" but it doesn't end well for her.
Yea such an odd trope. I think the most egregious one is "Sweet November" like, spends time with the dude they're having a good time. Then "Actually, I have cancer".
Granted I ain't seen the flick since it came out , but hot damn I though "Man that's fucked up, "
There's hardly any, male romantic leads tend to be guys who need to be fixed or being equals, MPDG are all about being caretaker, muse, and lover to the male lead without asking anything serious in return.
Magical Girlfriends who only exist to teach men how to grow the fuck up with no desire or wishes of her own besides being whimsy. That is WHAT the trope is.
(The secret is: all the manic pixie dream girls are neurodivergent- be than autism, ADHD, depression, bipolar. That’s what gives us our special spark!)
Manic pixie dream girl is the romanticized/fetishized/infantilized version of neurodivergence. You’re absolutely right- it’s always better to surround yourself with people who have educated themselves on neurodivergence. However, the manic pixie dream girl stereotype also makes it easier to pass as neurodivergent- “oh she’s just quirky/eccentric!” (a privilege I personally benefit from) @InevitableBadger totally nailed the concept in their comment
Technically "manic pixie dream girl" was a term invented by a film reviewer to criticise the unrealistic representations of female love interests in the films of the early noughties, but we saw it and saw people we knew and why they were like that, and so we gave it the new meaning that I described instead of what the author intended. The younger generations will presumably adapt it to the greater recognition of neurospiciness, as is their right, but the core concept remains.
The "manic" is the upswing of a depressive cycle, not necessarily full bipolar but certainly getting there. So they're vibrant and energetic and all the rest, but you only see them on that side of the cycle not the downswing so never see the bad bits ("dream"). "Pixie" is a look, "girl" is optional.
Sometimes I dream of being manic just to feel something again. Then it strikes and I empty my bank account, get hospitalized because I get dehydrated, and act like a total dick to my loved ones
Too many of you don't get what Maniac Pixie Dream Girls are or why they're a problematic trope. They're cute, they're quirky, they turn the man's life upside-down, but they exist ENTIRELY for the benefit of the man's emotional growth, rarely expressing her needs or wants that might differ from his, and conveniently disappears when she's no longer needed for his growth.
Meh. It's 100% no different from the perfect himbos/dark brooding breast tropes that are in every fucking romance novel to ever exist. It's a fantasy. There's nothing wrong with fantasies.
This has nothing to do with the short lived manic pixie thing though. Men have thought of women as lesser beings that are only there to be caregivers for a few thousand years. There is absolutely no evidence of any kind that shows that the manic pixie nonsense has had any affect whatsoever on how women are treated. People can't just say something is true because it feels true without actual info/facts to back it up.
Richardslapnuts
Everyone wants to be with a mpg until they want you to act "normal" around their family
LordHosk
COOL!
She's really into Roller Coaster Tycoon, Bigfoot podcasts, and Star Wars, while tolerating that Im into Most Sci-fi, Colony sim/Base builders AND she likes to touch my wee wee while letting me touch her who ha.
I see no downside to this arrangement.
MortimerMango
the same man later fingered a dead bear in central park
MaleProstateMilker88
I have no clue what manic pixie girl even is.
Columbus43219
My favorite take on this trope... Manic Pixie Prostitute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2ekEeMk0Q
rbudrick
I mean, that was the point, wasn't it?
Sarcastus
And we love them anyway. Or at least I would.
knubberrub
" Just Regular Autistic 𝘋𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘮 𝘎𝘪𝘳𝘭 " /fixed
Wasnbo
I knew girls who were "Hollywood quirky" MPDG-types. In real life, they're several kinds of unstable, including one who engaged in criminal behavior against an ex-boyfriend. Think "yandere" but it doesn't end well for her.
ellopoppett
The onion?
phalanxausage
"Arrested Development" did a great job of this
wascallywiddlewabbit
It's just the male equivalent of "I can fix him"
FaerieWalnut
Except the male equivalent, especially with manic pixie dream girls, is "she can fix me".
thedudeman519
Yea such an odd trope. I think the most egregious one is "Sweet November" like, spends time with the dude they're having a good time. Then "Actually, I have cancer".
Granted I ain't seen the flick since it came out , but hot damn I though "Man that's fucked up, "
drochleprechaun
As an autistic bloke, I wasn't upset. I just got married. Worked out well.
thepicklebucket
As long as it's not BPD, we're cool.
squishybaker
Hey, not all of us fuck ups with BPD are that bad, some of us have gone to therapy.
thedarkcanuck
Well I'll just go fuck myself then
ILDL
Well that guy sure isn't going to.
Larnoc
I feel like you deserve more credit for that line that you're going to get from just a handful of upvotes, kudos
heyletsbefriends
whats the male equivalent for manic pixie dream girl?
rshini
There's hardly any, male romantic leads tend to be guys who need to be fixed or being equals, MPDG are all about being caretaker, muse, and lover to the male lead without asking anything serious in return.
heyletsbefriends
sounds like id make a pretty decent manic pixie dream girl
BryanTenn
Die Antwoord
gingen
For a sec I thought it was AURORA but I think you're right.
somnif
Just an AI gen'd pic https://www.everypixel.com/image-7014906467506314949
thedudeman519
From now on whenever I hear or read the phrase "Dream girl" this comes to mind :
MagicBandAid
https://youtu.be/N6jG4A_mQGg?si=4WQZb9Qc2-yiE7Cc
thedudeman519
Well this is just fantastic .
deaddogsmuggler
As someone with bipolar disorder, "manic dream" sounds terrifying.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
What...what did people think they were?
RollToSaveAgainst
Fae?
rshini
Magical Girlfriends who only exist to teach men how to grow the fuck up with no desire or wishes of her own besides being whimsy. That is WHAT the trope is.
HairyWalrusWizard
Daddy issues and a bad haircut mostly.
OregonComputerGuy
Is that Aurora? I
somnif
Nope: https://www.everypixel.com/image-7014906467506314949
Juttypants
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZTlnZHg0aGVkbzE3d2F6em02aG1ibnNxZWMybmhqZ3kxNWtvdjFwYiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/XIBqUqXI9guly/200w.webp
Oneblueeyerighthandguy
I thought it wAs Yolandi at first look
Calicious
No, it's not. Close tho
knubberrub
<3
StabbyMcMurder
Ya
StabbyMcMurder
Or at least I think it is. I'm second guessing myself though. It's .... Off. Idk
somnif
It's from an AI stock image site https://www.everypixel.com/image-7014906467506314949
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Localized entirely within your kitchen!?
heyletsbefriends
i would allow her to go as far as the living room, at least
SidneyMajora
Thank you. I needed that laugh after that week
aloharamada
https://imgur.com/aq5e1NW.gif
knubberrub
This wins the thread.
omnomnomivore2
(The secret is: all the manic pixie dream girls are neurodivergent- be than autism, ADHD, depression, bipolar. That’s what gives us our special spark!)
deaddogsmuggler
Im neurodivert. I'd rather meet someone who understands the conditions compared to whatever the hell a manic pixie girl is suppose to be.
omnomnomivore2
Manic pixie dream girl is the romanticized/fetishized/infantilized version of neurodivergence. You’re absolutely right- it’s always better to surround yourself with people who have educated themselves on neurodivergence. However, the manic pixie dream girl stereotype also makes it easier to pass as neurodivergent- “oh she’s just quirky/eccentric!” (a privilege I personally benefit from) @InevitableBadger totally nailed the concept in their comment
InevitableBadger
Technically "manic pixie dream girl" was a term invented by a film reviewer to criticise the unrealistic representations of female love interests in the films of the early noughties, but we saw it and saw people we knew and why they were like that, and so we gave it the new meaning that I described instead of what the author intended. The younger generations will presumably adapt it to the greater recognition of neurospiciness, as is their right, but the core concept remains.
emu314159127001
Poor Nathan rubin. He coined the phrase in an article, and regrets that it took on a life of its own. Also poor literally, he doesn't have dental
InevitableBadger
The "manic" is the upswing of a depressive cycle, not necessarily full bipolar but certainly getting there. So they're vibrant and energetic and all the rest, but you only see them on that side of the cycle not the downswing so never see the bad bits ("dream"). "Pixie" is a look, "girl" is optional.
aloharamada
Very well put, damn.
deaddogsmuggler
"Manic dream" sounds terrifying to anyone with bipolar disorder.
WhoHim
Sometimes I dream of being manic just to feel something again. Then it strikes and I empty my bank account, get hospitalized because I get dehydrated, and act like a total dick to my loved ones
deaddogsmuggler
Yeah, you only really get to completely restart your life because you fucked everything up so many times.
rshini
Too many of you don't get what Maniac Pixie Dream Girls are or why they're a problematic trope. They're cute, they're quirky, they turn the man's life upside-down, but they exist ENTIRELY for the benefit of the man's emotional growth, rarely expressing her needs or wants that might differ from his, and conveniently disappears when she's no longer needed for his growth.
MyPseudoIsAlduinSkyrimStoleItFromMe
They respond to man's need to be understood and be seen. It's the polar opposite of the dumb Blonde trope.
thebonesofmyancestors
Meh. It's 100% no different from the perfect himbos/dark brooding breast tropes that are in every fucking romance novel to ever exist. It's a fantasy. There's nothing wrong with fantasies.
rshini
except too many men do expect women to play muse and caretaker, women tend to understand the Kronks don't exist.
thebonesofmyancestors
This has nothing to do with the short lived manic pixie thing though. Men have thought of women as lesser beings that are only there to be caregivers for a few thousand years. There is absolutely no evidence of any kind that shows that the manic pixie nonsense has had any affect whatsoever on how women are treated. People can't just say something is true because it feels true without actual info/facts to back it up.