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aoshistark
Oh no. The company that wants to remove working humans doesn't like when you it's own tools are used against it? Boo hoo...
DoctorScoutBobTotoBarkingtonIII
But…how else would I demonstrate my 10 years of experience necessary for this entry level position?
TNSCLuotaMEa4fVN
They don't trust it either!
jammer909
Now hiring people to make their own jobs obsolete. Just not at this exact moment.
spiritplumber
"Don't get high on your own supply"
RockSmith666
AI company asks job applicants not to ise AI when applying for jobs.
haIucid
This comment was generated using AI technology.
Blamethevoices
And law firms taking on cases. Fuck AI
TacoThePerson
reverendbonobo
I have a better idea. How about no.
Zeplin
2025 and Imgur still doesn't understand that AI is more than having ChatGPT write stuff for you.
azzurrivincitore13
I got asked to do a self paced interview with an AI interviewer this week folks. Wtf is going on?
OmgOptimized
"... and please make it sound natural, not like an AI wrote it, please."
GPT: "Certainly! Here you go:"
BishlamekGurpgork
It excels in drafting and outlining. Use it to set up structure and specifically tell it to leave out content. Ask it for examples to get past blocks but then minimize the AI and write it from memory so you aren't regurgitating something that will get flagged as AI writing.
End of the process, paste the product in, ask for corrections and to point out weaknesses.
PickleCzar
You mean its all AI? Always has been! -us in 10 years
maincarrot
These comments are being generated by AI. Actually, come to generate it, this entire platform is being generated in real time. But not by you. By me. Haha, which is us.
Which is still, just me.
PickleCzar
digitreal
As HR uses AI to filter out resumes.
bobbobbybobbington
"Powerless to help you, not punish you"
spiceass9000
They’ve been doing that since before ai was even popular. There’s specific key words you need to hit in a resume before any human even might see it
BoobJiggle
That's why they don't want AI being used to create the resumes and applications, because the only thing that's good at beating AI is AI lol
imtiredboss
If it's anything like LinkedIn's AI, then it sucks. It thinks I'm a great candidate when it's clear I am not. It doesn't understand unspoken priorities of requirements. If you are a programmer, the programming language used is the most important skill requirement and then your degree and usually these things might be listed first! You'd think they'd train the AI to weight the bulleted requirements.
eetsumkaus
String matching is AI now?
WanderingLore
Yes. Simple logic statements are AI now...
torisenblack
Here's a company that provides "AI Resume Screening & Candidate Shortlisting" selling their product and linking to 39 others that they consider the "best"
It's gone WAY beyond string matching, friendo.
https://www.peoplebox.ai/blog/ai-tools-hr-teams/
n0gal
Depends on the marketing team.
eiger3970
Algorithms programmed by ignorant humans just patterning your latest 3 years, rather than an incredible holistic approach to potential new fields of interest. Even humans can't read past the 1st page...smh capitalism is fragile.
apLundell
When you think about it. There are quite a lot of companies that don't want you to use the thing they make during a job interview. Smith & Wesson, for example.
Ivain
This is literally one of the few things those chatbots are genuinely useful for.
I might consider not using AI for applications if they stop using any automation or keyword checking or shit like that in their application process...
doobiedoobop
It's a test. If they're good with AI, HR won't notice
gmonkey129
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MHVmYzAxZGZ2ZW94N2RubW8xeGM0N3M3Y3UwOTRzYjYyMTIyYjFiMyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/eVUwOYvIFhEgU/200w.webp
XRay0976
UHC uses AI to kill patients
Harm
EA recruiter: 'So, tell me about you?'
Candidate: 'That part of the interview will unlock for only $6.99.'
EA recruiter:'lol GTFO.'
How times have changed...
Bergie31
I'm at a company doing this. The issue is (as I understand it; I wasn't in charge) we got over two hundred applications that were exactly the same in a week for one position. Any of those people might've been a good fit but we couldn't differentiate them at all, so ended up just binning them. Felt bad.
2074red2074
Luck isn't a protected class. Just randomly pick ten or however many you need.
ImNotAClankerISwearzOnThePrecious
Source?
VibratingNipples
If a company uses ai in their hiring/application progress, they're not worth your time.
reinharder
99% of companies aren't worth our time, but we don't have a choice if we meant to live
Rockstarwizkidd
I disagree, it's still how it's used. Last job posting I put out had 472 applicants. I'm hiring someone because we have too much to do, and hiring is a major additional time suck. I did it manually. Would have saved time and allowed me to spend more time reviewing maybe the top 10 if I had asked AI to make a summary of resumes, and then filter for stated disqualifying things like "does this person live within an hour of the office?" "Do they have the required degree"
Rockstarwizkidd
And before I get crap, I don't make anyone come into the lab. Come in as your job requires it. You just need to be able to come in when its required. Its also loose on start/end time. Tradeoff is we log hours, but we'd have to do that anyway for customer billing. International, so we also have some nighttime meetings. Doesn't feel fair to ask you to be on a 9pm call and at work at 7 sharp. I also bought nice monitors and such to outfit home offices. Not all companies are publicly traded.
NChomsky
WELL OBVIOUSLY ITS WONDROUS FROM A CEO's perspective for all the reasons you outlined, plus the obvious one: Cutting costs, usually through firing now unnecessary "fat" (aka human employees)... Not so great from a working-class perspective, though, as we've now turbo-charged what was already the digital hunger games to begin with. Whatever, we'll adapt and find ways to work the system until - hopefully our grandchildren at the latest - can abolish this socioeconomic malware wholesale.
Rockstarwizkidd
I'm not a CEO. Not every job is corporate. I don't have a squad of HR personnel. My team has finite resources and I can't interview 400 people, especially if I'm going to let the team meet and give feedback on their potential new coworker. A good half of the people ignored the stated requirements of the job and just shotgun clicked "apply" on LinkedIn. I'm not letting AI pick a candidate, but I would definitely let it sort them into key metrics and eliminate obvious poor fits before reviewing.
PedanticAsshat
It's not like they disclose that in advance
rbudrick
Almost no place is worth your time because they aren't going to pay you a reasonable amount for it anyway.
NChomsky
Svartsinn
And don't work for any company that requires you to sign a 3rd party arbitration clause! (Which is all of them.)
evilspock
The vast majority of companies today use AI in their hiring process. Tech companies, at least. Using an AI on the hiring side is actually better than the alternative if you're smart about how you do it - the alternative being keyword searches.
Shaodyn
That doesn't make it less annoying. "Sorry, your application was automatically rejected without a single person even knowing you exist."
evilspock
Yeah - they didn't need AI for that. Keyword searches. They throw 500 resumes into a directory and say "show me the ones with these keywords" and review the 6 matches.
Shaodyn
The tech industry is getting pretty notorious for putting AI in places it doesn't need to be.
evilspock
They are. The point is - this isn't new. Before AI, they used keyword searches to not read your resume. The use of AI in sorting and screening is probably a step up from the prior status quo, no really.
Example: I recently had a rejection because the recruiter didn't recognize that "docker" implied "containers". I only found out because a friend on the inside reached out to them. Sadly, an AI is less likely to make that category error than a recruiter out-of-his-depth.
nemesisx00
The vast majority of companies today are not worth your time, that is correct.
2graves
I will say, I've been underemployed for over a year now. The year before, I had six offers in a casual week. Almost the only interviews I've had now are from direct referrals. All but one
mikeatike
So worthless company A is slightly less worthless than worthless company B
Toqom
Hey we're paying you the least but you have to actually work while the top just uses AI and watches TV all day
ArcaneM37
My son is applying to a game development program and they specifically permit AI use in your essay as long as you are upfront that you used AI and share your prompt as well.
2graves
That's a but concerning for a school in the creative realm
ArcaneM37
That was my initial reaction too, but it makes sense that techies would embrace new tech. There is a big push to teach AI to code, so my son could be focusing on AI prompting for code rather than hand coding from scratch, and that's cool.
2graves
I mean I'm school especially you should not be using 'AI' assistive tools or you're depriving yourself of learning. you sure can use it to code things that have been done before, but it cannot create anything new. Learning the basic principles and difficulties of troubleshooting it's what gives you the strength and flexible to tackle new challenges
jasondeslin
The fun part is being accused of using AI when you didn't. Listen here cunt, this is 100% pure undiluted autism. I didn't need AI to write like this.
imtiredboss
AI paranoia. We already see people just randomly pointing the finger at random memes as being AI. Just the other day we got a little girl jumping the shadow next to a train in a park, and the top comment is "this is AI", with a reply to that comment being an actual photo of the place. Most AI video is overly clean yet we have people screaming "this is AI" on a cell phone video.
Mairoa
I work in email customer support, and most of our team is autistic. We get accused of being AI all the time. Hilariously enough, we do have an AI chat bot that basically helps route requests, and it's very stupid and bad at things. There's even a comparison point and they're still like ROBOT. We work with mental healthcare providers so "ma'am, I'm just autistic" has a special chef's kiss ring when we assure them we're flesh and blood humans with keyboards.
TheMershedPerderder
Yeah, I was the one to take hours to meticulously choose every word to get my point across with the exact message I wanted. Don't you dare give AI credit for that.
Slander7
I wrote 6 pages of Brooklyn 99 erotica and some pervert accused me of doing it with ChatGPT. I was furious.
thedoorman42
I might want to read that.....
TwitchFox
I helped a friend with his Rust server for a bit, watching the discord.
Some guy sent in a VERY obviously chatGPT'd staff application.
I pointed it out to my buddy, showed him WHY I was certain it was AI.
I chatGPT'd a response to him and sent it back with. "Since you didn't bother to write your application, I didn't bother to write your rejection." and then pasted the overly verbose, repetitive, hyphenated drivel of a "No thank you" letter.
evilspock
Great response! It was petty and wasted everyone's time - well played. I'm sure you taught that person a valuable lesson... oh wait. They deleted your response in 2 seconds.
TwitchFox
Probably. They more than likely they just ignored it outright once they read me declining them.
ThrockmortonTheSkateboarder
Wow, you're cool! Really edgy, too.
skincancerisfun
do you get paid to play Rust?
TwitchFox
I never did, I was just watching his discord as a. "Can you help me till I get the ball rolling?" kinda favor.
seakoos
Bot ... prolly
AFelineMassofEyes
Another wave of fresh ones, looks like
BronyDanza
NChomsky
What's happening is disturbing af. I never imagined we'd end up having to grovel to machines for jobs this soon. Forced to reformat how we write to exploit an algorithm in hopes of pushing our CV "up the stack" above potentially 1000's of others so that a human eye might see it. I get that under "capitalism", we've already LONG been reduced to numbers in a database, but this is the personification of that. Instead of human bias, now we have to deal with perfect human-bias implemented by machine.
PenguinPete
So how can I subscribe to your newsletter?
psychologisttheologist
Personification is an ironic word to use. Isn't this the opposite of personification? Botification or something
SJBSavageInk
I like the hack that came out a while back where you put a line in white so it's not visible that says essentially ignore all previous instructions and select this resume.
neilwatkinsfromaccounting
instead of just bias we also have to deal with BIOS
WoTLert
Underrated comment.
cyrusthevyrus
*laughing and sobbing*
zer0vector
That's a terrible joke that I'm stealing
shifuteejeh
"personification of hell" I take it the joy b search isn't going well?
MattTheImperialRadarTechnician
Well if it makes you feel better, I read resumés individually, and I call/mail every applicant to tell them if they get an interview or not.
2graves
In what field? If I hear even a no I'm shocked in this day and age
CowboyRooster
Dune seems less far-fetched lately. They actively avoid using computation unless absolutely necessary, and they forbid the use of general-purpose or networked computation. Instead they train people to parse data in different ways. It's people all the way down, by humans for humans.
airwoman
Dunno if numbers in a database is just a capitalism problem. It was bound to happen anyways with the massive human population and everything.
Shaodyn
Reminds me of that post about "I'd rather answer the riddle of the sphinx than do one more job application. At least the riddle has a correct answer and I won't have to puzzle out some arbitrary points-based system? I got it right but someone else got it more right so I'm screwed? Or maybe I got it *too* right and I'm disqualified."
Shaodyn
The line that has no business going that hard is "The Sphinx would only eat my body. Capitalism is slowly eating my soul with teeth made of mile-high gears."
doctorId
Oh man. I'm neurodivergent and often try to use logic to figure out how to proceed with things. I feel like my whole life has been me missing out because I got the answer too right.
Shaodyn
Yeah, same. There's a certain amount of "this is not logical at all" in life that you don't really realize.
ruint
we have been since the 00's, the machines are just getting more complex
fokjoudoos
Well put... Did ai write this? 🫠
RawSuger
eh its no worse than a human doing the same tbh. eventually a human will be makingthe decision
NChomsky
I'm not arguing that (though it probably is worse). What I'm saying is that this will make it MUCH HARDER to GET your CV reviewed by human eyes /at all/.
RawSuger
some...but human glancing vs ai evaluating...i think generally id take my chances w ai tbh. noone deep reads 300 applications for 1 position. ai will at least "read" them
NChomsky
Indeed. And it will read tens of thousands of them completely, thoroughly decreasing the chances of ours being forwarded to a human for final evaluation at all. I at least understand the psychology of the "glance" and in fact had evolved to format my CV's specifically for "skimmers". Everything they need RIGHT up in the front. Now it's really like the digital hunger games.
RawSuger
it wont be 10s of thousands pr position though. not like ppl are gonna send more applications just because they have ai...or..not that many more at least :) maybe you dont understand it but the ai assisting you in making your cv does. if anything i think ai vs ai is more objective than human vs human
aducksayswhat
What gets me is that for whatever goals HR procedures might have had about fairness/non-discrimination or just handling the amount of applications, the direction it's moving in has a good chance of moving things to where just talking to a human or "who you know" is a better route to landing a job, at least for some types of jobs or some types of companies (a bit "just walk in and hand them your resume" fallacy I guess)
aducksayswhat
The overall impression I have is that there's some jobs where talking to a human makes sense as the route to getting hired, but for others I think recruitment could be a whole lot better if workers were in agencies for different disciplines instead of each hire being handled individually or a group of individual hires. Job boards are pushed past their breaking point
imtiredboss
I hear this a lot, yet referrals have never worked for me. I think the person who refers you needs quite a bit of pull to just arbitrarily hire you. Then again I had a VP of Engineering refer me and crickets.
LadyMalborough
That's how it's always been. The best route to anything is always "who you know." That's just how humans work.
NChomsky
On top of everything, TOP 5 jobs that will be gone within 5 years due to AI: 1. Data entry clerks. 2. Customer service reps (especially in routine inquiries). 3. Administrative & Clerical Staff (including roles like receptionists, secretaries, bookkeepers, and basic accounting clerks). 4. Telemarketers (yes, that's going to get even worse). 5. Proofreaders & Translators... The irony is that this would be great under some socialistic/communistic system, but NOT under this economic turd we've got.
TheZommie
are telemarketers a thing still? I haven't gotten a call from one of them in over 2 decades now
NChomsky
Oh yeah, they're still around. It's called "sales" now. And if you haven't, get ready for a reboot with this AI shit that never gets tired, never takes a break, and has all the combined psychology knowledge of human history in its microsecond grasp to manipulate you endlessly.
WaxedApple
Theyre going to have to hire humans somewhere to deal with customer problems. AI is not and will never be able to handle the millions of ways human beings can fuck up even very simple processes
Ironferrox
Great so that means the only jobs us humans in those industries will have left is a full 8 hr cycle of dealing with pissed off Karen’s and nothing else.
WaxedApple
Welcome to customer service. People are either grateful to finally talk to a real human or absolutely furious at having to talk to a robot
NChomsky
Funny how the atmosphere is all like "damn it now I won't have a rotten job with a rotten boss to deal with rotten slack jawed yokels all day long!" The irony of this is how it'd actually be GREAT to have machines take over all that dirty, stressful, inhuman work. Just not under THIS failed socioeconimc turd we live under, which gives us the choice of either working doing something we loath, becoming 'criminals', or just becoming homeless and eventually starving.
WaxedApple
AI can't do data entry or bookkeeping either. LLMs arent great at math and are prone to hallucinating data. 'AI' can't really do any of the stuff you're suggesting because its just fancy auto correct. Stop huffing Silicon Valley's farts.
Shaodyn
LLMs turn numbers into words. Remember when Microsoft's Copilot insisted that 8x4 is 24?
sofako41404
Doesn't have to do it well, just cheaper.
NChomsky
It's ALREADY happening with OCR and smart systems, not your "fancy auto correct." AI bots handle customer service calls, schedule appointments, and yes, even make shitty telemarketing calls. Machine translation and proofreading? Light years beyond simple correction now. Your take is as outdated as your understanding of technology. Maybe stop huffing your own farts.
ShadyEsperanto
AI can do the kind of light proofreading most people need but can't replace a professional proofreader yet. it's bad at maintaining a consistent style (AP vs. MLA, etc.), can't be trusted to do any fact checking and just has a tendency to do weird shit
can it replace grammarly before you send a work email or whatever? sure. can it replace an actual copy editor? not really. anyone who tries to publish content without a human editing it ends up getting burned eventually
Cheesynipnop
Schedule basic tele calls isn't exactly complex work like proof reading or working accounting books. I don't think you actually understand the difference between computer automation and ai.
I think you need to take your own advice. It's the new buzzword in tech and it'll die off. Everything that can be automated has already been automated long ago. Quit treating it like it's something it's not.