that 65 million isn't just immigrants. that will mostly be natural born Americans born to immigrants, some of them starting many, many generations ago. it's just another expression of their racism.
Because of the Marshall Plan. The US saw the writing on the wall and avoided an even larger post-war depression in Europe by financially supporting the rebuilding of working economies, in the countries not controlled by Russia. Eastern Europe is still digging out from missing out on that, and being raped by Russia for anything portable that had value.
Tl;Dr: anything done by the Good People to the Bad People is justified by that distinction. There is no unjustifiable action, so long as it is *going in the correct direction*.
Genuine answer: Your definition of a Good Person and theirs are WILDLY different. Their version of Good Person is just hierarchy. Those on top are on top because they are Good. Those in the Party, Church, Group, etc. are Good. Those outside of it are Bad. Any action taken by a Bad Person is automatically Bad, regardless of outcome, because they are Bad. Any action taken by a Good Person is automatically good, regardless of outcome, because they are Good.
Fascists are openly calling for genocide and deportations. Why are normal Americans still trying to play by the rules? If you're in a boxing match and your opponent pulls a knife, either leave the ring or pull out your gun.
Because most of them don't know, don't care, or aren't paying attention. There was an article today about how the Dems tried focus groups to find a message that worked, only for many people to refuse to believe the bill actually said those things.
Most people aren't watching this sort of thing. They're wrapped up in their lives, their kids, their jobs, and daily bullshit, and to the extent that any information pierces their bubble it's in the smallest and most superficial quantities.
They dont know, they dont care and they are not paying attention..... but somehow they know a LOT of the shit Donald Trump is saying. Somehow they know a lot of the shit Joe Rogan is talking about. So one way or the other, they DO listen to someone or something. They DO get informed and the information actually sticks. I think the real problem is Democrats dont WANT people to know, because then everyone would be a socialist, and the DNC would rather destroy the country than to go left wing.
It's saturation. Pure and simple. The more screaming bullshit the right flings, the better chance that their shit will be what slips into somebody's brain. Combine that with the fact that they're playing to existing biases. But it's not just them, nor is it all aimed at right-leaning audiences, which is part of why that second point is bullshit. If you genuinely believe a political party would rather cease to exist than win elections, you're buying into bullshit aimed at dividing people.
Regarding your last line: I think there is a disconnect at the top, at the rich folk running the DNC. Ok, they do not actually actively want to destroy the country, but if there are primaries before 2028, and Mamdani-AOC is doing really really well, all signs show that ticket will crush Trump (lets assume he will run for a 3rd term), I would not be surprised if the DNC tries to sabotage Mamdani-AOC in favor of Hillary 2028. They have done it in the past, because they do not want a 'socialist'.
No, still horseshit. You realize Mamdani cannot run for President or VP, right? More to the point, you need a lot of voters to elect a President who are NOT members of Imgur or even the left. You're talking about a country where a lot of people won't vote for a woman, let alone many other categories. I'm not saying there's any easy solution, but "Let's run the most extreme person we can find, who can only get elected in the most left city in the country" is not a winning national strategy.
Schumer changed the name of the bill and Jeffries talked for 9 hours, delaying the bill. But he only did it to set a new record, the old record was 8 hours. Oh and the DNC and their billionaire donors are banding together to stop Mamdani from becoming mayor...... But seriously. They are doing nothing. I think they do nothing on purpose, so everyone is super pissed at Trump and the DNC thinks they can win the midterms in 2026 and get back into power. I think there wont be midterms in 2026.
People respond to threats with violence and they get arrested. You get arrested and you might lose your job. Lose your job and you might lose your home and family. People aren’t willing to risk that for mere threats.
Even though the threat was against the law, the law doesn’t matter anymore.
So far I don't see people respond at all. Yesterday I saw some Iranian guy. ICE was at his door, they wanted to take his wife. Wife just went with them. No struggle. No running away. No screaming. She just got into the car and thats it. Six months from now she'll be dead. No fight. Nothing.
I dont see the life or death fighting. I think people are underestimating the situation. Extreme example: Gestapo taking Jews out of their homes. They packed a bag and then sort of 'willingly' went with them. No struggle because they simply could not imagine what was about to happen.. So my question is: had they known they would be gassed to death, shouldnt they have fought to the death ? This women knows her life is over, shouldnt she have done more? (ps I'm NOT blaming the victims!)
I tried to talk to my mom about this, who lives a few hours away in Florida. She said, "Yeah, it's yucky," and then changed the subject. They could put a concentration camp in my hometown and she wouldn't react. I think there's a huge population of people who are just going to let fascists walk all over them and not fight back at all. It's not a question of "where do you draw the line?" It's a question of, "what line? I would never draw a line."
The modern GQP is just a vehicle to virtue signal to other horrible people that they're horrible too, and being a modern repub is little more than being the most horrible person you can be and shouting TRIGGERED LIB!!!! TURRRRRMP!!!! at anyone who says anything about it.
I hope some of the 65 millions Latino together with all other marginalized groups (like women) will go out on the street and demonstrate. And if that doesn't help: Beat the shit out of ICE! Hitlers Gestapo was up against about 1,5 Million Jews, Sinti&Roma, Homosexuals etc., less than 2% of the population. The gICEpacho is up against more than 50% of the population (if all groups they harass are included). You still can stop them! Please stay safe and if necessary defend yourself with violence!
She is but she doesnt have the ovaries to actually say it outloud. when pressed she tried to claim that there were actually that many people here illegally. That would be 20% of the population here as non-citizens.
And they just passed a budget for their secret police that would be the 3rd largest military in the world. I don't know if she's dumb or smart for saying the quiet part loud here.
Most I can suggest is starting a scaled-up version of 'neighborhood watch'. See if you can get in contact with others who are vulnerable or have vulnerable loved ones, and keep each other up to date on suspicious people and kidnapping squads and whatnot being spotted nearby. They have to have SOME sort of system for how they target people in an area, if you can get ahead of that you'll have a better chance of keeping safe.
I'm curious how many people it takes to consider it a genocide? Because there aren't all that many billionaires really... We might not even violate the Geneva Conventions.
≈3323 in the world. So let’s go with 3322. Leave one alive, donate all their money and make them work on a farm for the rest of their lives. Give them the same right we have right now. Like leaving head on spike so people don’t forget.
Nah, Trump made a point of saying farmers needed some of them to do the jobs white folks won't....you know, the jobs they stole from hard working 'muricans while simultaneously being lazy and cashing gov checks they never qualified for.....
wannasee
WarmVanilla
Laura Loomer Fascist Gooner
Cloudypoona
They’re really trying to outdo Hitler’s numbers huh
8647taco
Ad placement
espaciopantalones
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bourbonandbaddecisions
She’s Jewish. She safe for now but when the brown people are all gone they will turn their focus on the Jews.
psmith00
that 65 million isn't just immigrants. that will mostly be natural born Americans born to immigrants, some of them starting many, many generations ago. it's just another expression of their racism.
SilentNemo
The number wasn't chosen out of a hat. It is the census number for Latin descent.
All of them.
DrSchlepenstein
As much as I don't want to poison the alligators by feeding them plastic, I say we feed Laura Looney to the gators first.
TyrannusEquus
They can pass quite a bit of roughage
ilovetraveler
I literally cannot comprehend how evil you'd have to be to gleefully imagine murdering that many people that you know nothing about it.
VelvetElvisNorth
Laura Loomer's plastic surgeon owes her a huge apology.
SpaceHaggis
Wow, i bet you google evrey hour about it
Wolfshead009
Go crawl back under your rock troll.
SpaceHaggis
ParrotHat
As if you don't google Trump hentai every hour
SpaceHaggis
Midgarmerc
This exists... unfortunately
LespritDeLescalier22
Loomer can suck a gator peepee
Plagen
7/19/2025. You know what to do. Do exactly what you're thinking.
giraffinator
They're eating the immigrants, they're eating the dogs
koyote2033
Where'd he get 294 days? Their administration only started in late January. It hasnt even been half a year yet, like 160 days or so i think
thedudeman519
294 days from the debate where he claimed "They're eating the dogs"
aDuckToTheFace
294 days sounds about right for the debate when Trump went they're-eating-the-dogs.
thedarkcanuck
I wonder if America will ever recover. I mean, Germany eventually bounced back into a fairly strong country right?
executivedisfunction
Because of the Marshall Plan. The US saw the writing on the wall and avoided an even larger post-war depression in Europe by financially supporting the rebuilding of working economies, in the countries not controlled by Russia. Eastern Europe is still digging out from missing out on that, and being raped by Russia for anything portable that had value.
Monkeynutsjoe
If we use them as an example, then things should come right in... 2080ish?
SilentNemo
If you want to see the future of the US, it lies somewhere between Pol Pot's Cambodia and modern day Iran, but that's only if it doesn't balkanize.
There is no version of this that ends pretty.
Midgarmerc
I don't understand how anyone can call themselves a good person while siding with people like that. It's truly sickening
SilentNemo
Tl;Dr: anything done by the Good People to the Bad People is justified by that distinction. There is no unjustifiable action, so long as it is *going in the correct direction*.
SilentNemo
Genuine answer:
Your definition of a Good Person and theirs are WILDLY different.
Their version of Good Person is just hierarchy. Those on top are on top because they are Good. Those in the Party, Church, Group, etc. are Good. Those outside of it are Bad. Any action taken by a Bad Person is automatically Bad, regardless of outcome, because they are Bad. Any action taken by a Good Person is automatically good, regardless of outcome, because they are Good.
woozle
Looser and her Billy the Saw puppet lookin' ass. She can stfu
albaboss
God she’s a terrible person
toogoodtomiss
It's like you WANT to distort the truth and remain inflamed and upset. It's all about the drama and facts don't matter.
GrandmasterSpank
Fascists are openly calling for genocide and deportations. Why are normal Americans still trying to play by the rules? If you're in a boxing match and your opponent pulls a knife, either leave the ring or pull out your gun.
MoonBoots92
Many of my friends have gotten weapons training and gotten their concealed carry license.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Because most of them don't know, don't care, or aren't paying attention. There was an article today about how the Dems tried focus groups to find a message that worked, only for many people to refuse to believe the bill actually said those things.
Most people aren't watching this sort of thing. They're wrapped up in their lives, their kids, their jobs, and daily bullshit, and to the extent that any information pierces their bubble it's in the smallest and most superficial quantities.
MoonBoots92
The message needs to be "LISTEN UP FUCKERS YOU ARE GONNA DO THIS OR WERE ALL GONNA DIE"
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Problem with that is most of the people who need to hear it are perfectly placid and convinced that nothing "political" will ever affect them.
GrandmasterSpank
They dont know, they dont care and they are not paying attention..... but somehow they know a LOT of the shit Donald Trump is saying. Somehow they know a lot of the shit Joe Rogan is talking about. So one way or the other, they DO listen to someone or something. They DO get informed and the information actually sticks. I think the real problem is Democrats dont WANT people to know, because then everyone would be a socialist, and the DNC would rather destroy the country than to go left wing.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
It's saturation. Pure and simple. The more screaming bullshit the right flings, the better chance that their shit will be what slips into somebody's brain. Combine that with the fact that they're playing to existing biases. But it's not just them, nor is it all aimed at right-leaning audiences, which is part of why that second point is bullshit. If you genuinely believe a political party would rather cease to exist than win elections, you're buying into bullshit aimed at dividing people.
GrandmasterSpank
Regarding your last line: I think there is a disconnect at the top, at the rich folk running the DNC. Ok, they do not actually actively want to destroy the country, but if there are primaries before 2028, and Mamdani-AOC is doing really really well, all signs show that ticket will crush Trump (lets assume he will run for a 3rd term), I would not be surprised if the DNC tries to sabotage Mamdani-AOC in favor of Hillary 2028. They have done it in the past, because they do not want a 'socialist'.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
No, still horseshit. You realize Mamdani cannot run for President or VP, right? More to the point, you need a lot of voters to elect a President who are NOT members of Imgur or even the left. You're talking about a country where a lot of people won't vote for a woman, let alone many other categories. I'm not saying there's any easy solution, but "Let's run the most extreme person we can find, who can only get elected in the most left city in the country" is not a winning national strategy.
Harbltron
Republicans have gone fuil-tilt mask-off fascist, and what's the Democratic party's response?
Seriously, what's the response? What the actual fuck are they doing?
GrandmasterSpank
Schumer changed the name of the bill and Jeffries talked for 9 hours, delaying the bill. But he only did it to set a new record, the old record was 8 hours. Oh and the DNC and their billionaire donors are banding together to stop Mamdani from becoming mayor...... But seriously. They are doing nothing. I think they do nothing on purpose, so everyone is super pissed at Trump and the DNC thinks they can win the midterms in 2026 and get back into power. I think there wont be midterms in 2026.
freemab
People respond to threats with violence and they get arrested. You get arrested and you might lose your job. Lose your job and you might lose your home and family. People aren’t willing to risk that for mere threats.
Even though the threat was against the law, the law doesn’t matter anymore.
GrandmasterSpank
So far I don't see people respond at all. Yesterday I saw some Iranian guy. ICE was at his door, they wanted to take his wife. Wife just went with them. No struggle. No running away. No screaming. She just got into the car and thats it. Six months from now she'll be dead. No fight. Nothing.
freemab
She fights back and there is a risk that her husband may be killed in the struggle. People are afraid with good reason.
GrandmasterSpank
I dont see the life or death fighting. I think people are underestimating the situation. Extreme example: Gestapo taking Jews out of their homes. They packed a bag and then sort of 'willingly' went with them. No struggle because they simply could not imagine what was about to happen.. So my question is: had they known they would be gassed to death, shouldnt they have fought to the death ? This women knows her life is over, shouldnt she have done more? (ps I'm NOT blaming the victims!)
bamblebimble
Again, she fights back and her husband may be killed. Many people will sacrifice themselves for their loved ones
MmmmmSoup
And still not one person in your country has the backbone to do anything, by anyone i mean Dems,Military and republicans that dont want this
izme1000
Can we feed the billionairs to alligators instead?
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
Why do you hate alligators?
IconicM
Saying the exact same thing about a different group of people totally makes you better.
Silent1fd
Well that group of people are not innocent
izme1000
I never said it made me better. I just think it would have a better outcome for the world.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I tried to talk to my mom about this, who lives a few hours away in Florida. She said, "Yeah, it's yucky," and then changed the subject. They could put a concentration camp in my hometown and she wouldn't react. I think there's a huge population of people who are just going to let fascists walk all over them and not fight back at all. It's not a question of "where do you draw the line?" It's a question of, "what line? I would never draw a line."
SilentNemo
The ONLY complaint they will have to the gallows is that they're bringing down property prices.
BastardMan1977
republicans are just the worst people with the worst souls
saipemcastorone3000
You mean the Fascist Party of America?
CALAMOSCOPYJANE
What souls
Luxwbmr
And half of your country voted for them
eromitlab
The modern GQP is just a vehicle to virtue signal to other horrible people that they're horrible too, and being a modern repub is little more than being the most horrible person you can be and shouting TRIGGERED LIB!!!! TURRRRRMP!!!! at anyone who says anything about it.
ps238principal
And as we keep noting, 65 million isn't the number of undocumented immigrants. That's the entire Latino population of the US.
Loomer is calling for genocide.
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
I hope some of the 65 millions Latino together with all other marginalized groups (like women) will go out on the street and demonstrate. And if that doesn't help: Beat the shit out of ICE! Hitlers Gestapo was up against about 1,5 Million Jews, Sinti&Roma, Homosexuals etc., less than 2% of the population. The gICEpacho is up against more than 50% of the population (if all groups they harass are included). You still can stop them! Please stay safe and if necessary defend yourself with violence!
Dracology
She is but she doesnt have the ovaries to actually say it outloud. when pressed she tried to claim that there were actually that many people here illegally. That would be 20% of the population here as non-citizens.
malbec
If only that were illegal or something
Ninjainslippers
And they just passed a budget for their secret police that would be the 3rd largest military in the world. I don't know if she's dumb or smart for saying the quiet part loud here.
AceJohnny
Remind me where Ted Cruz is from again
I wonder which side he’s on
unluckyandbored
"Make America Great Again" always meant "Make America Whtie Again".
georgejimmydoodle
This is what Republicans are.
Poppypoppoppop
Their good pal Bibi is doing so without any real consequences so far, so of course they are going to follow suit
oriyagi
This is why even the legal citizens and residents are rightfully scared. As a white dude with a Hispanic wife and mixed kid, over my dead body.
Ivain
Most I can suggest is starting a scaled-up version of 'neighborhood watch'. See if you can get in contact with others who are vulnerable or have vulnerable loved ones, and keep each other up to date on suspicious people and kidnapping squads and whatnot being spotted nearby. They have to have SOME sort of system for how they target people in an area, if you can get ahead of that you'll have a better chance of keeping safe.
ryti
I’m all for genocide as long is as target is billionaires.
TheCryptid
and fascists
januskincaid
I'm curious how many people it takes to consider it a genocide? Because there aren't all that many billionaires really... We might not even violate the Geneva Conventions.
ryti
≈3323 in the world. So let’s go with 3322. Leave one alive, donate all their money and make them work on a farm for the rest of their lives. Give them the same right we have right now. Like leaving head on spike so people don’t forget.
wyrmbear
Nah, Trump made a point of saying farmers needed some of them to do the jobs white folks won't....you know, the jobs they stole from hard working 'muricans while simultaneously being lazy and cashing gov checks they never qualified for.....
unluckyandbored
So the ones they don't kill will be turned into slaves.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
It will be the ones they plan on killing just like it was in the interment camps.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
Gonna be honest, I didn't think we'd get back to open slavery so fast.
wyrmbear
exactly. Fucking evil empty nutsacks.
Drew442
And getting back surgeries they dont need so they can continue getting handouts.
Apollymkatistrafia
Ya know, bc you can go to Any street preforming surgeon and have one done.
AyatollahBahloni
Yes. Yes, she is.
CaptainAsshat
And there will be no consequences for something that should get her thrown in prison for a long time.
Chaapai
She absolutely is.