He's basically got the winning lock on like 50-90% of life depending on his attitude, so, yeah, you'd expect him to be extremely chill, but perhaps in need of some water and vitamin A and maybe a quick nap from time to time.
I've seen their show. Basically they're lunatics, and Ben just deals with it. They constantly speak in near-unison, matching the tone of their voices, which rise in pitch at the end of every sentence. They're Australian or NZ with a heavy accent. It's like
Bane-ane, weeheed loike to sprieeve the louncy in Westgooglia this waekeend-end. Yeah-eah. It loohooks supeh cute-ute. We sow it awn insteagram-gram.
Ben (world weary, barely conscious): sure ladies sounds groit
And they will freak out if something interrupts their plan to lead identical lives. Like a fly lands on one but not the other. "BAEN-AEN A FLOI LANDED ON HER BUT NOT MEAH"
The twins were actually born 100% identical, and actually had work done to change the small differences so that they’d be exactly identical.
And from what I gathered about their relationship, it’s pretty mechanical - they’re very insistent on everything being exactly equal right down the middle.
Considering their relationship lasts 11 years already, I'd say they found a way to make things work. Most "regular" relationships don't last that long. I guess three freaks found their match...
If you were one of the girls and you constantly dressed identically to your identical twin who is the most identical one in the world, would you get mad if he didn’t know which you were? Feels like they’d be trying to intentionally dupe him at that point.
If multiple adults can enter into a legal agreement, I don't see why marriage is the only one that requires only two. Even more bizarre that how many people think it should be a legal document that requires each person to have different genitals.
I think (not sure) my african neighbour is married in his home country to the multiple women he lives with and has kids with. He's only married to 1 here (Australia). In his words, "shit is too complicated for the courts"
I would guess that it's easy when it's just adults, but becomes pretty complex when they start having kids. Notice how in most (if not all) countries where it's legal, it's limited to one man with multiple women. The man is the father of all the kids, and they each have their own mother, almost as if they're legally separate families. But I can see it would be tough legally if they all want to be recognized as equal parents to all the kids. If one person leaves a polycule of four, how do they /1
split custody? Does the single one get the kids half the time, or a quarter of the time, for example? What if all four break up and the time with the kids is split four ways? It's already difficult just splitting it between two parents.
I'm not saying it's impossible or could never be figured out. But it's definitely a lot more complex than with two parents. Splitting assets would also be more difficult, the more people they have to split between. /2
I totally agree. I have a few poly friends that are very much in love and it works for them and they're all consenting. There is a problem of some people using polyamoury as a control mechanism (think cult), but that shouldn't stop those that are happy.
The nuclear family unit is unnatural! Bring back south american village families with a child having multiple fathers because it was throught that pregnancy was a cocktail of traits from many different men! "It takes a village" is correct! Let women have harems!
It was a practice ages ago. Then the church fractured with what is now a small cult still doing it, but the rest does not. I hate the mormon church, but we should at least be accurate.
It's still illegal. The Mormons who do practice it will have a real legal marriage with one woman and a religious marriage not recognized by the state with the others. It's also decriminalized as of 2020, so it's a civil infraction and not an actual crime.
I mean you seem to be implying something crazy with your last sentence. Polygamy is perhaps a reason for someone to move to utah but theres also a bunch of other factors why people wouldnt. Namely if they arent Mormons. But also all sorts of other reasons like job prospects, whether, general surroundings, etc etc.
It's looked down upon by the church and frowned upon overall. But I guess that depends on where you live and how your small town community looks at you. I have met a couple of polygymists in Utah; it's either a really normal or really weird feeling/conversation talking to them, and yes, I'm from Utah.
Yeah, but Mormon polygamy is mostly just an excuse to exercise religious control over women while some sleaze takes in all the benefits. Mormons…. Really aren’t a religious group one should aspire to be like, even if polygamy would be appropriate for polyamorous romantic polycules.
Because it would give those consenting adults some measure of independence and security by allowing higher household resource accumulation amongst the peasantry, meaning they have more time to devote to things like being attentive and educated, which makes them harder to exploit.
No I'm not bitter about the current trajectory of the United States why do you ask?
You say that like the system wouldn't push for polygamy for those same reasons. Their only concern is keeping the water just high enough that you're just barely able to keep from completely drowning. Any freedoms or lack there of are second to maintaining a perpetual state of drowning. And their rigid adherence to "traditional values" is only because they have already done the math on income loss if too few people move to a 3+ income before they raise the water level.
Notice that virtually everywhere on earth that polygamy is commonly practiced is a violent hellhole. Polygyny (multiple wives) is far more common than polyandry (multiple husbands), which tends to lead to a significant surplus of single men, which basically takes everything bad about incels and turbocharges it to be worse. So, legally, I'm with you on "why not", but as far as becoming a widespread cultural practice, it has a lot of problems.
Maybe its the ppl in power that are problematically implementing it, and that an entire culture and history cannot be oversimplified into demonizing by a common sexual orientation. Polyamory and by extension polygamy at the end of the day are a sexual orientation, this is akin to making a statement of the entire gay community based on the actions of the pulse nightclub shooter. Not to mention the flawed argument of ratios, ignoring monogamous policies like chinas one child policy larger effect.
Cherry picking goes brrrrrrrrrr. Mormons are known for their non violence, with utah being 11th in lowest crime rates in the states. Idk why you're so prejudice against us (poly, not mormon) but you need to re evalutate your opposition to sexual orientations and differences in lifestyles. Why must you insist on conforming marriages to your ideal, are you jealous or just hateful?
https://scholarlycommons.law.emory.edu/elj/vol64/iss6/4/ and https://www.econom">6/4/">https://scholarlycommons.law.emory.edu/elj/vol64/iss6/4/ and https://www.economist.com/christmas-specials/2017/12/19/the-link-between-polygamy-and-war for two. While the person i responded to did say "consenting" polygamous societies tend to not respect that, so it's hard to control for, but in doubtful everything covered would resolve itself.
So much of polygamy is based on one sex "owning" the other. Like amongst agreeing consenting equals it's great, but the difference also leads to a fundamental power imbalance.
Mostly because of divorce. For Eg, say John has 3 wives. Each of these wives has 2 husbands, including john, each. The 2nd wife's 2nd husband wants a divorce from the 2nd wife. Is John's assets included in the divided assets since, technically, she is still financially linked to John? Are the other wives included or their 2nd husbands? How many points of separation do we stop at? Plus, the difficulties when parties start hiding assets through their spouses
Legally speaking, it's cheating on your spouse. It is also illegal to be married to multiple people at the same time. Some people don't like the idea of two people with the same genitals getting married.
While unmarried people in a polycule are not illegal, the fact that they cannot get the same legal protections and rights as a married couple is problematic.
No. You can't be married to more than one person because there are clear tax advantages to being married, and you can't double up for obvious reasons. But there's literally nothing stopping you from having a marriage license with one and a ceremony with another and calling all involved your spouse.
No, they're crazy. One had a tooth that needed pulled, but they didn't want to do it unless they could pull the same tooth on the other. They wanted to get pregnant but we're terrified one might get pregnant sooner so they wouldn't be identical... they got dolls instead
Come and knock on our door... (Come and knock on our door) We've been waiting for you.... (We've been waiting for you) Where the kisses are hers and hers and his, Three's company too.
Sh1tMovieGroup
Yeah, one after the other, but who gets to go first?
Targe0
Ben. /s
ArchaeoEejit
Ben looks like a chill dude.
quietwalker
He's basically got the winning lock on like 50-90% of life depending on his attitude, so, yeah, you'd expect him to be extremely chill, but perhaps in need of some water and vitamin A and maybe a quick nap from time to time.
getsbetter
"kiss"
iwin
Ben is the happiest man alive. Be more like Ben
WhiskyBravo
so if they all get married, then get divorced, does that mean everyone gets they each get 50% of Ben's assets and he keeps zero?
t9dawg
10 years later, Ben had no idea twins could both have headache at the same time.
Heelcat70
He's definitely got his hands full.
trhopkins
Legalize lower collars!
layinginbedfeelinglikeaquesarito
“Ben has not spoken in three years, he rarely moves. Ben is away the slightest change could upset the balance.”
DirigibleOtter
Menage a Damocles.
FuzzyX
The sisters are united. Ben is used. Ben is ok with being used.
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
Exactly!!!
TerribleAwful
hybridgorilla3131
Mazzy94
WhatD0thLife
They look identically insane to me.
Tapthisbong
Ben could have had one problem now he has 2 and if they are both in cahoots with fucken him over he then has 3
ethaniel
Poor Ben.
meowingintensifies
these women are crazy and codependent on each other https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EZ7O59WPNA
Gryphonosiris
I mean, I thought we all figured that part out.
perlninja
Guess he misunderstood "don't stick your dick in crazy" and doubled down...
AnythingMuchShorter
You don't say. I wonder if the guy they are both with so that they can share the same life in every possible way could confirm that theory.
Larktonguesinadicecup
I've seen their show. Basically they're lunatics, and Ben just deals with it. They constantly speak in near-unison, matching the tone of their voices, which rise in pitch at the end of every sentence. They're Australian or NZ with a heavy accent. It's like
Bane-ane, weeheed loike to sprieeve the louncy in Westgooglia this waekeend-end. Yeah-eah. It loohooks supeh cute-ute. We sow it awn insteagram-gram.
Ben (world weary, barely conscious): sure ladies sounds groit
OhIfIMust
WE CAAHNT BE APAAAAAAHT!!!!
Larktonguesinadicecup
You saw it too, I see.
Larktonguesinadicecup
And they will freak out if something interrupts their plan to lead identical lives. Like a fly lands on one but not the other. "BAEN-AEN A FLOI LANDED ON HER BUT NOT MEAH"
Revicus
I'm now really worried what's going to happen when one of them dies.
Larktonguesinadicecup
It won't be good.
OhIfIMust
And near-instantaneous.
StevieTheAussie
I believe I read about this.
The twins were actually born 100% identical, and actually had work done to change the small differences so that they’d be exactly identical.
And from what I gathered about their relationship, it’s pretty mechanical - they’re very insistent on everything being exactly equal right down the middle.
Ch4osAngel6
& yet not the same dress .? Airline & eyebrows aren't quite right too , than if go to the point of surgery you more dire problems if you ask me .
StevieTheAussie
Were not actually born 100% identical*
purgruv
>100% identical
>small differences
Pick one.
StevieTheAussie
Were not* Sorry about that.
Mazzy94
drpain522
https://www.nine.com.au/entertainment/latest/extreme-sisters-identical-twins-anna-and-lucy-decinque-celebrate-milestone-fiance-ben/1f6996bb-8b93-4cfd-8516-7d47653434d9
MajorNikon
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
OdinVex
Particularly.
daverbeans
Ben has four big reasons not to ask questions.
ImNotActuallyEvilAfterAll
Huge, even
greggbert
"Most Identical Twins" In the World. They were recognized.
JaromirAzarov
Considering their relationship lasts 11 years already, I'd say they found a way to make things work. Most "regular" relationships don't last that long. I guess three freaks found their match...
Nanntuckett
If you were one of the girls and you constantly dressed identically to your identical twin who is the most identical one in the world, would you get mad if he didn’t know which you were? Feels like they’d be trying to intentionally dupe him at that point.
Supercontra8
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1cWdxdXd5OTQzaTN6OTk1YTd2MWp0MDcyN2IzdjI4anJpc3BkczBqZiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/JDMz1HU5IPy1O/200w.webp
UniquenessReviewed
Legalize polygamy
AngelBunny8888
Do you mean bigomy? You are allowed more than one partner, just only one wife.
purgruv
‘Do you mean “bigomy”?’
Asked with such confidence too…
KatInTheCorner
If multiple adults can enter into a legal agreement, I don't see why marriage is the only one that requires only two. Even more bizarre that how many people think it should be a legal document that requires each person to have different genitals.
Shinydudenexa
I think (not sure) my african neighbour is married in his home country to the multiple women he lives with and has kids with. He's only married to 1 here (Australia). In his words, "shit is too complicated for the courts"
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I would guess that it's easy when it's just adults, but becomes pretty complex when they start having kids. Notice how in most (if not all) countries where it's legal, it's limited to one man with multiple women. The man is the father of all the kids, and they each have their own mother, almost as if they're legally separate families. But I can see it would be tough legally if they all want to be recognized as equal parents to all the kids. If one person leaves a polycule of four, how do they /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
split custody? Does the single one get the kids half the time, or a quarter of the time, for example? What if all four break up and the time with the kids is split four ways? It's already difficult just splitting it between two parents.
I'm not saying it's impossible or could never be figured out. But it's definitely a lot more complex than with two parents. Splitting assets would also be more difficult, the more people they have to split between. /2
Shinydudenexa
I went to high school with some of the kids and was way too curious. I got told off by them and my parents for asking some of those questions
lDanielHolm
I would honestly have no problem with that.
Jamerperson
I totally agree. I have a few poly friends that are very much in love and it works for them and they're all consenting. There is a problem of some people using polyamoury as a control mechanism (think cult), but that shouldn't stop those that are happy.
kahooki
Polymize legamy!
lenonova
I'm glad I'm not the only person to immediately think this
ArgentXero
The nuclear family unit is unnatural! Bring back south american village families with a child having multiple fathers because it was throught that pregnancy was a cocktail of traits from many different men! "It takes a village" is correct! Let women have harems!
zagibu
But how will you sell a fridge, tv, car, etc. to as many people as possible if you let communes become a widespread form of living again?
todayok
"pregnancy was a cocktail of traits from many different men" uh huh.
Pregnancy results from conception and only one swimmer crosses the line.
Now, male social influences, that's dif.
Sodee
You left out the “it was thought” part to make a point that didn’t need to be made.
todayok
Well, we know it ain't true so why mention it at all - a point that didn't need to be made.
Canigetbannedagain2
I mean the Mormons have been doing it for decades, even though they say they stopped. But most people don't head into Southern Utah.
tryyshokk
It was a practice ages ago. Then the church fractured with what is now a small cult still doing it, but the rest does not. I hate the mormon church, but we should at least be accurate.
2074red2074
It's still illegal. The Mormons who do practice it will have a real legal marriage with one woman and a religious marriage not recognized by the state with the others. It's also decriminalized as of 2020, so it's a civil infraction and not an actual crime.
Gryphonosiris
I mean, illegal immigration was a civil infraction, but look at the country now.
EternallyIgnorant
I mean you seem to be implying something crazy with your last sentence. Polygamy is perhaps a reason for someone to move to utah but theres also a bunch of other factors why people wouldnt. Namely if they arent Mormons. But also all sorts of other reasons like job prospects, whether, general surroundings, etc etc.
Canigetbannedagain2
It's looked down upon by the church and frowned upon overall. But I guess that depends on where you live and how your small town community looks at you. I have met a couple of polygymists in Utah; it's either a really normal or really weird feeling/conversation talking to them, and yes, I'm from Utah.
TheMilliner
Yeah, but Mormon polygamy is mostly just an excuse to exercise religious control over women while some sleaze takes in all the benefits. Mormons…. Really aren’t a religious group one should aspire to be like, even if polygamy would be appropriate for polyamorous romantic polycules.
Gryphonosiris
And have a 50 year old creep marry 14 year old girls, don't forget that part.
Canigetbannedagain2
Nailed it, that's a good point.
spiritussancto
Eeeeeehhh, legalize polyamory between consenting adults. Do not encourage the exploitative human trafficking going on in Mormonism etc
doctorbocker
We call it "Mormon Holdem'" in North America.
aflarge
I mean, as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, why not?
beachbum273
Because it would give those consenting adults some measure of independence and security by allowing higher household resource accumulation amongst the peasantry, meaning they have more time to devote to things like being attentive and educated, which makes them harder to exploit.
No I'm not bitter about the current trajectory of the United States why do you ask?
Asadsadsadclown
You say that like the system wouldn't push for polygamy for those same reasons. Their only concern is keeping the water just high enough that you're just barely able to keep from completely drowning. Any freedoms or lack there of are second to maintaining a perpetual state of drowning. And their rigid adherence to "traditional values" is only because they have already done the math on income loss if too few people move to a 3+ income before they raise the water level.
whatsisname
Notice that virtually everywhere on earth that polygamy is commonly practiced is a violent hellhole. Polygyny (multiple wives) is far more common than polyandry (multiple husbands), which tends to lead to a significant surplus of single men, which basically takes everything bad about incels and turbocharges it to be worse. So, legally, I'm with you on "why not", but as far as becoming a widespread cultural practice, it has a lot of problems.
luna3aoife
Maybe its the ppl in power that are problematically implementing it, and that an entire culture and history cannot be oversimplified into demonizing by a common sexual orientation. Polyamory and by extension polygamy at the end of the day are a sexual orientation, this is akin to making a statement of the entire gay community based on the actions of the pulse nightclub shooter. Not to mention the flawed argument of ratios, ignoring monogamous policies like chinas one child policy larger effect.
zagibu
Polygyny is also widespread in the west, it's just not officially sanctioned.
whatsisname
Widespread? No, it's probably less than 0.5% of households.
zagibu
I'm not sure in which statistic you are expecting to find this. I'm talking about regular infidelity.
uplookdont
Also to be noted, virtually everywhere on earth where polygamy is not commonly practice is a violent hellhole
whatsisname
There is a pretty significant difference in violence between e.g. Sudan and Mali vs e.g. Norway or france or something.
uplookdont
But we are not arguing the semantics of the cause or tyoe that there is violence
luna3aoife
Cherry picking goes brrrrrrrrrr. Mormons are known for their non violence, with utah being 11th in lowest crime rates in the states. Idk why you're so prejudice against us (poly, not mormon) but you need to re evalutate your opposition to sexual orientations and differences in lifestyles. Why must you insist on conforming marriages to your ideal, are you jealous or just hateful?
Discgolfing
Please share a link to your source, and please make sure it is s legitimate study.
whatsisname
https://scholarlycommons.law.emory.edu/elj/vol64/iss6/4/ and https://www.econom">6/4/">https://scholarlycommons.law.emory.edu/elj/vol64/iss6/4/ and https://www.economist.com/christmas-specials/2017/12/19/the-link-between-polygamy-and-war for two. While the person i responded to did say "consenting" polygamous societies tend to not respect that, so it's hard to control for, but in doubtful everything covered would resolve itself.
Enoan
So much of polygamy is based on one sex "owning" the other. Like amongst agreeing consenting equals it's great, but the difference also leads to a fundamental power imbalance.
Shinydudenexa
Mostly because of divorce. For Eg, say John has 3 wives. Each of these wives has 2 husbands, including john, each. The 2nd wife's 2nd husband wants a divorce from the 2nd wife. Is John's assets included in the divided assets since, technically, she is still financially linked to John? Are the other wives included or their 2nd husbands? How many points of separation do we stop at? Plus, the difficulties when parties start hiding assets through their spouses
KittyKlimt6
Wait uhm is it forbidden? In the US?
vegivamp
Legally speaking, it's cheating on your spouse. It is also illegal to be married to multiple people at the same time. Some people don't like the idea of two people with the same genitals getting married.
While unmarried people in a polycule are not illegal, the fact that they cannot get the same legal protections and rights as a married couple is problematic.
Trunkmonkay
No. You can't be married to more than one person because there are clear tax advantages to being married, and you can't double up for obvious reasons. But there's literally nothing stopping you from having a marriage license with one and a ceremony with another and calling all involved your spouse.
Rubyrose99
Twins, Basil. Twins!
RetrogradeLlama
I believe John Leee Hooker summed this up: Boom, boom, boom, boom.
genepoolboy
johnxbear
How? How? How? How?
JoeT85
heeyya, Heeyyyy!
Columbus43219
So people don't have to hunt for it(Blue Brothers version): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUUyFrHERpU
RetrogradeLlama
supervillin
shiviro
supervillin
lightfoot2
Ben has won the game of life.
Calicious
Buddy one wife is hard enough. I don't want two.
yourcommentisstupid
No, they're crazy. One had a tooth that needed pulled, but they didn't want to do it unless they could pull the same tooth on the other. They wanted to get pregnant but we're terrified one might get pregnant sooner so they wouldn't be identical... they got dolls instead
NuclearGradeIrony
I sense a sitcom here.
BixbyConsequence
Come and knock on our door... (Come and knock on our door)
We've been waiting for you.... (We've been waiting for you)
Where the kisses are hers and hers and his,
Three's company too.
ChicanoBatman
somewhere, someone is tired of their shit too
IakobZ
Ben found a magic monkey's paw a while ago. He still has two wishes left.
OhIfIMust
By all accounts I've read, they are batshit insane. Ben needs to blink twice if he needs help.
TRUMPMUSTDIE
Oh sorry your sister loves Anal !
MadamPuddifoot
This is some real incel shit.
theskepticinme
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlMG1hdjN3ZmhhdnBvc3J6d2dwYjc5NmRkYjI3cDcyOGwxeHdnejQ5YSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/d7SnByEMkrdeoVQ2lT/giphy.mp4
lightfoot2
glider gun
OhIfIMust
I REMEMBER!!!!
ILDL
Idk they seem kinda weird (there was a short video on them). Outside of hoinky doinky time I can't imagine the everyday realities are super fun.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Can I walk a mile in his shoes and report my findings?
ILDL
Idk bro ask him. If he says yes I think that's answer enough.
DippinDerps
It's sad but being a twin myself, I can tell them two apart easily. Lucky guy though. Would like to be in his shoes right now.
artie500
I'm not a twin, but the members of every pair of twins I've met were easily distinguishable.
neilwatkinsfromaccounting
like their dicks?
artie500
You'd know about that, whereas I don't.
neilwatkinsfromaccounting
you just said you could tell them apart by their penises
artie500
Oh, Jesus! Get over yourself.