Beelsebooob
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Seriously though... It's not possible to do that job well or badly, beyond throwing a pizza on my roof. Asking for a tip before they even deliver anything is effectively saying "please pay the delivery guy's wage for us". Just stop lying about the price already, and charge an amount you can pay your drivers reasonably at.
Tactleneck
I know it's not true in practice, but the delivery cost should cover the driver's wages and expenses. This is one reason I always collect
YourUncleTheConvictedFelon
This is why I never tip my delivery guy. It's not 'cause I'm a cheap asshole.
cleavergrill
My boyfriend refuses to get delivery because you have to pay a delivery fee plus tip the driver. We always pick up.
SneakZ
As a husband. I also refuse to get delivery for that reason. Order an extra meal or pay tip+fee. No brainer imo.
DanaColan
Glad I never delivered to you!
HappierNowThanEverBefore
I started making my own pizzas from scratch a few years ago. I don't like ordered pizza anymore. Kids love helping too. No tipping issues!
Perfzilla
You said it, title.
glaug
Then just use cash instead of the site or whatever that is.
Deanwinchester01
OP is definitely a faggot here.....
aflarge
Hey now, I know a couple faggots who would be VERY upset with you for associating them with someone who doesn't tip.
MacDaddyCheesus
This is why you do carryout. Also can get better deals that way, like Domino's Pizza.
Cavalrysword
I think you should be tipped. Into the nearest body of water.
Insaneshrink
Happens alot with the food delivery services I have gone through. They put a 30-40% mark up on tip every time. It's crazy.
iospace
@op delivery drivers don't have any compensation for the wear on their car or their gas from their employees either (which is why you tip).
Glumerlink
the government compensates for these things if the workplace does not, you just have to make sure to keep track and put it in your taxes
Beelsebooob
They should be reasonably compensated for those costs then - it's not my job as a customer to pay them.
iospace
If you honestly think they're going to start compensating for that, I have a bridge to sell you (same with paying servers proper wages).
aflarge
I bet you trash hotel rooms and say "Whatever, it's their job to clean", too.
Natertoots
I manage a delivery place. I can confirm that, while difficult, there are some drivers who do their job horribly. Also, most companies (1/2)
Natertoots
Hire drivers on as contractors rather than employees so they can get away with paying very little and expecting the tips to make up the rest
Natertoots
We pay our drivers an 8.50 minimum so we can keep delivery fees around a buck and drivers aren't fucked by low tips.
aflarge
If you don't want to tip your driver, maybe YOU should be the one to do the driving. The drivers often won't even get gas money.
Beelsebooob
Then they should refuse to drive until they're paid an amount that covers their costs. I know America hates unions, but...
aflarge
Maybe you should move to a culture where they don't tip. Otherwise, just drive there pick it up yourself, you cheapskate.
aflarge
Jesus you people really hate tipping. Fine. If you don't want to tip, inform them before placing your order that you're not gonna do it.
aflarge
Otherwise they're performing services for you based on the idea that they'll get tipped. Don't lie. Don't rip them off. Don't be an asshole.
IllegalSprinkles
That seems like a problem that should be handled between the employer and employee not shoved onto the customer.
aflarge
That's how American restaurant culture is. You tip your server. Your driver is just a server who goes farther.
aflarge
If you don't want to tip, then inform them before placing your order that you won't be tipping. Don't rip them off, at least.
aflarge
Where I worked, we literally had to threaten to stop deliveries to get our boss to add a fee, because people wouldn't tip.
aflarge
(and it absolutely wouldn't have worked if there were more than five people working at the place, including the two bosses.)
aflarge
If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford the food, from there.
Beelsebooob
And again - it's not my job to pay the delivery driver's costs - it's up to the person employing them to pay them reasonably.
aflarge
If tipping in a culture that tips servers is such a hardship for you, then you really shouldn't be eating out. You can't afford it.
Beelsebooob
I'm not a fan of servers paid in tips either, but that's an *entirely* different question, and much much more complex than this one.
aflarge
And when you don't tip, you're screwing over the person who gets $2/h, not the person who only pays them $2/h.
aflarge
Rationalize it however you like, it will never change the fact that you're still the asshole in that scenario.
Beelsebooob
Actually, not true - if you don't tip them, the employer has to make up the difference. By tipping, you literally allow the employer to 1/
aflarge
At long as at the end of the year, it doesn't go below minimum wage* Can't pay? Don't buy.
Beelsebooob
pay them less. Effectively that tip goes straight to the employer 2/2
Beelsebooob
That's the problem - delivery drivers aren't servers - servers can actually do their job well or badly, delivery drivers just hand me a box.
aflarge
Delivery drivers can definitely do their job well, unless you don't mind a pizza with all toppings crumpled on one side of the box.
Beelsebooob
No, that's not "not doing their job well", that's "not doing their job at all". Their job is to get food to you in reasonable condition.
aflarge
If you're not willing to pay for the service, don't get it. Stop being such a selfish, lazy cunt and go get it, yourself, from now on.
Beelsebooob
I'm totally willing to pay for the service. A tip isn't payment for a service - it's a voluntary gift for exceptional service.
Beelsebooob
As I said in your redundant comment - a tip isn't payment for a service, it's a voluntary gift.
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TacosLocosForever
OP presents a problem, then a solution. What a whore...
Anonawesome
Oh yeah what an unpopular opinion that people should have better lives. CURSE YOU AND YOUR RADICAL OPINIONS OP!!
aflarge
You know, Israel and Palestine should just get along. I'm so thoughtful and wonderful. Votes, please!
TacosLocosForever
Now the solution?
aflarge
They should both just agree to stop fighting and be friends. Kinda like how restaurant owners would just start paying their servers fairly.
aflarge
How about instead, if you don't like American restaurant culture including tipping, don't participate. Vote with your wallet, not theirs.