What a joke. The only true thing that Rush Slimebaugh ever said was that "the purpose of an army is to smash things and kill people". He didn't say "the other side's people" because he was 100% absolutely aware that all soldiers are *trained* to follow orders, not think about whether or not those orders are moral and should be followed.
Flamethrowers. Fuming acid mixtures in fragile glass bottles raining down over the cops' heads to destroy their armor. & when they attack, well aimed shots to the head between the eyes.
Imagine to Be so affraid of your peoples reaction to your actions, that you have to have full military Gear up on every occasion. Might give you a hinta about moral and ethical grounds of Said actions
So when it was the pandemic, masks were for idiots, but now, they're just fine. Fuck these cowardly hypocrites. All of them. They're only doing this because of numbers and guns. Without either, they're all cowards.
and fuck their Fascist overlords. i got no problem with Conservatives. An efficient government exhibiting financial responsibility while largely allowing their constituents to live their life how they desire is truly an admirable set of ideals.
Too bad that Democrats are the conservative party here in the U.S.....
Just a reminder, everyone has second amendment rights in the United States. It's not illegal to show up to a protest armed. When people do so in large numbers, historically the authorities suddenly become much more respectful of the right to peaceably assemble for some reason. They even become more receptive to the message of the protestors, though who could say why. I would encourage exercising your second amendment rights in addition to your first, peacefully of course.
With the important caveat that if you are going to do this, LEARN your state's firearm laws and precedent in addition to federal law so that you know what you can legally do, and TRAIN to use your firearm safely and effectively. If you buy a gun and show up without any idea of what you're doing, you put your fellow protestors at unnecessary risk. If you're going to commit to a cause, commit to knowing what you're doing first so that you don't become a liability.
The #1 indicator that we are screwed as a country and the fascists legit won is not a single person actually assaulting or fighting back the ICE agents and such. Just hands out crying and saying Staaahhhppp pweeesssse.
Why are you booing him? He is absolutely 100% correct. So far it's all been whiny bitches with phones yelling and filming and doing nothing, and one crazy badass bitch trying really hard to get run over and I totally respect her for that move. People should have jumped the goon when he got out of the SUV to remove her.
Hey as a non American, is ICE a government funded agency? Why do they look like every member has brought their own equipment and don't have clearly displayed ICE logos like fire fighters or police?
Yeh, what's with all the masks. Feels really weird to be that many, and that kitted out for something like this. Giving amateur kidnapper and ammosexual vibes. Real icky people...
they are a federal agency. they have a lot of rules they are ignoring. theres a theory that their ranks are filled with the neonazis that the GOP knows. every video makes it swem more and more accurate.
I've yet to see any evidence of this. IIRC a lot of the J6 arrests were done on people with priors. I don't think they let you in at ICE with a criminal record. That being said, I don't doubt it at all. Rule of law is being ignored at every opportunity.
I know that there are no MAGA in these comments, but I'm going to pretend for a moment. Looks at the number of personnel they need to arrest one person that is maybe guilty of a misdemeanor violation. How much do you think this cost the taxpayers, just in labor? How is this sustainable? How is this not a prime example of the government waste you claim to oppose?
The war on drugs, which has gone on for generations now, has proven they never cared about cost or efficiency. Those are just buzzwords. What they really want to do is harm people. Usually people of color.
Is there a reddit group or something where we can get alerts when they are in the area? I feel like we need to organize a fast response and fight back.
I can't speak to where you live but there are standard social media and Reddit accounts tracking ICE where I live, plus a hotline we can call or text. If you have a subreddit for your town/county, that could provide some info. (Unless fascism is popular in your area in which case such resistance would be stifled.)
As much as there are plenty of military folk who are chill and would support Gen. Milley's statement, there are unfortunately also a lot who just wanna be able to shoot people and call it patriotism.
That's why they're using ICE. The military has been proportionally against him. That's a problem for him. I hope they get a chance to put ICE in their place. Land mutiny. My father who is retired fully supported him through most of his bullshit. Then he openly supported Putin and my father was surprised and no longer supports him. No, he is not a smart man.
This. Everyone says they are trying to force Martial Law, but that is nonsense, they could declare that over anything already. They are hesitant too because if 100% of the military is not behind your dictatorship speed run even if your side "wins" you are almost assuredly not going to. We suck at COIN, are horrid at nation building, but we do "Blow shit up until the rubble bounces" well. If just 20% of our military isn't down with it we would be in a global conflict with ourselves.
It would easily be more than 40%. He'd have to stoke a frenemy nation, like Russia, to attack and weaken us to pull that off. And he'd risk more loss than wealth gained. They can't even take one smaller neighbor and we dump so much money into our military that it's beyond ridiculous. The joke, "find out why we don't have healthcare" comes to mind.
Military personnel are trained to follow orders immediately and without question. It's the people at the top giving the orders that need to assess what is happening and rectify the situation.
I mean in a story book sure but I and many others around me were definitely not going to follow any unlawful order, as we were trained on that far more than I ever received any brainwashing. My base felt like we slipped into hell when Trump first got elected. Leadership had to put out emails telling people to not be disrespectful to the commander in chief. Just saying.
I've been out since 2018 now, but let me tell ya bud most military members are normal people who signed up to make something out of their dead-end lives with no way to pay for college and have no interest in combat or conflict at all. Sure, some generals could start throwing around military punishment for disobeying orders but the same could be said about you, after all you are only a draft away from being one of them.
That must be why they beat the difference between an lawful and unlawful order into us. Conscripts are trained to follow and obey without question, professional militaries have ranks of NCO corps who are going to question, second guess, revise twice and have come up with a new plan that may or may not align with the original goals by the time first chow is over.
People are different. There are fascists too in the army and cops. When will be the moment, would you be sure who make the oath with his mind voted to freedom and equality and which one to control and power? I wouldn’t trust anyone anymore, sorry to say that, but is true.
So where the fuck they at then? Constitution is being ripped to shreds every fucking day this administration is in office and no one has done a goddamn thing about it.
I don’t give a shit what some military monkey has to SAY. I give a shit what he DOES. And right now they’re all fucking cowards in my eyes.
Milley actually stood up against trump, multiple times, using his high rank and celebrity to bring awareness to trump's fascist takeover. I'm not sure what else you want him to do, I'm pretty sure he was also ordered to do some fascist shit and refused. This is exactly what the military should be doing, staying the fuck out of internal protests and refusing to attack civilians. Unfortunately they arent all the same calibre as Mark Milley.
Look at these ICE assholes, wannabe tough guys dressed like combat troops with automatic battlefield weapons so they can smash car windows and take screaming children and terrified woman into custody without warrants. Cowards!
Tiktok Tiktok Tiktok... I know you guys hate even the idea of it. But the people who made you hate the idea of it are the same people that keep making the posts everywhere else disappear!
If imgur is going to silence this kind of shit then it's time for people to stop using imgur. The correct response is not to "show them we don't back down" because they don't care as long as you're using the site. The correct response is to leave, let them know that their censorship is the reason, and kick them right in the moneybags.
Only way to show them is to not let them earn ad revenue. I'm fine with letting it die. At this point it has so little appeal and is just filling with garbage features.
I warned everyone about their "automod AI" and the shadowbanning shit repeatedly on post after post. There are other sites to stay informed on. Imgur is swallowing itself.
Perhaps it got overwhelmed. A shadow ban doesn't remove the posts, just kind of hides them, so if enough people upvote it anyway, it will make it's way to the top.
Imgur is pretty much the only social media I've used for the last decade (I do follow my daughters on IG so I do some Nazi punching when I'm there). What sites do you use to stay informed?
A mandatory politics tag lets trolls find all political posts, creates echo chambers like realpolitics, truepolitics, magapolitics, etc, and turns the politics tag itself into a sub-community. On top of that it enables coordinated algorithmic suppression of political tagged posts, or the ability to categorically deny a post to see the light of day by reporting it as improperly tagged forever.
I mean, I report and block anyone who posts untagged politics. I say it all the time: I don't use imgur for politics, I use it for funny pictures and videos. If I want politics, I'll actively seek them out.
It’s inevitable, this is how they want it. They want an officer to be attacked so that they can suppress us even more. If you’d like to see what our government is trying to do, watch Andor, Season 2, episode 8. The massacre of Ghorman. That’s what the right wing facists want.
Then they get to play the numbers game, and the odds are not in their favor. The instant ICE opens fire on a crowd of people is when they start getting removed going to the store for food or stopping for gas. It will get bad, and ICE and the feds are not ready for it. But they be the ones to have to started the fire.
I would argue that the US has never had this situation before. Yes, the police have a habit of institutional discrimination and general dickishness but it's never been so openly supported and even encouraged at the federal level. The Japanese interment or maybe the red scare might be the closest parallels.
There's going to be a bloodbath no matter what happens. Trump has been itching for one since his first term. If protestors won't give him a reason, he'll stage an event.
I'm worried about that too but and it's crazy to think this could be a possibility but i also think it could be done by ICE themselves to further the agenda. Just look at what happens to cops who actually have a conscience and try to do the right thing. They get weeded out sometimes violently. It would put it past then to off a "problem" as an excuse to go guns a blazing.
No, I mean protesters. BTW, I don't know how much LA cops are involved with this, but my impression is very few to none. My sense is they don't want to get involved. They are much more a part of the community rather than a part of the fascist take-over of our government. I know they have a bad reputation, see also: Rodney King among many other examples. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I hope I'm right.
Cops actually do not fucking like ICE for the most part. These fuckwits are actually making cops' jobs a lot harder than they need to be, hence why they took two hours to respond to ICE's request for help at the Home Depot today.
Didn't help that ICE gassed the fuck out of everybody and the cops couldn't get close because of the tear gas. lolololololol.
The other day's video of protestors just shouting away ICE agents - successfully - didn't have them opening fire on anyone.
If they're smart, these guys won't start anything, not if there's a truly sizeable crowd around. If any of them open fire, then ALL the restraint goes away, and the crowd will curbstomp them. Once the "authorities" are willing to kill civilians, civilians have no reason, AT ALL, not to defend themselves.
20 ICE Nazis vs. 100 civilians. These guys don't even have the kind
of guns that can just mow crowds down with automatic fire. Even if another group did, would they all act together, in concert, at the right moment? Not against the people they came to abduct - against the masses around them.
And if ICE did prevail, and just massacred a hundred protesters, what then? The MOMENT that goes public, the reaction will be severe. I can't even predict what form it would take, but you don't MURDER an entire crowd like that.
five days and multiple incidents, the death toll was 63. Over 2300 were injured, yeah, but only 63 died. And of them, only ten were at the hands of authorities (9 by LAPD and one by the National Guard). The rest were casualties of the rampant rioting itself.
Police thugs brutally beat one man - who was not resisting, and only tried (and failed) to flee the beating. And it set off five days of violence. People died. People got hurt. And entire neighborhoods were utterly demolished.
I literally bought my first AR-15 there, it has additional laws regarding magazines and various features etc. (some sensible, some silly, it's nuanced like most things), but it's as easy as anywhere else in terms of ownership.
There's a gun store down the street from me, only thing I need to get a gun, is to pass a firearm safety course, which can be achieved in a day and all it entails is knowing terminology and shit like, "Don't leave a loaded gun around a toddler". If that constitutes, "near impossible" I have concerns for you.
It's not near impossible to own a gun in California. Maybe it's a lot easier in Oregon or Nevada but that doesn't stop you getting a gun in California, you just have to follow the process.
California has over 3 million registered gun owners. So know, I don't know that. Where are you getting your info from to think it's nearly impossible. California is in top 5 on the list of most gun registrations.
RevolutionOnHerLips
Fucking cowards with their faces hidden.
iusedtodream
Oathkeepers and Proudboys, mostly. Fascists, all.
meRick20
TheSpindrifter
What a joke. The only true thing that Rush Slimebaugh ever said was that "the purpose of an army is to smash things and kill people". He didn't say "the other side's people" because he was 100% absolutely aware that all soldiers are *trained* to follow orders, not think about whether or not those orders are moral and should be followed.
ImaginativeNickname
Don't post protestor faces.
TupacAintDead
Elections have consequences
IdiocracyNow
bolobass
This is America.
Fascist state
Zero freedom
The weakest it's been in 200 years
thedtp
Imademyselfsquirtle
All those J6 pardons. Those are the new hired ICE agents hence the masks.
Efreeti
What can I use to deal with 30-50 feral hogs?
TheSpindrifter
Flamethrowers. Fuming acid mixtures in fragile glass bottles raining down over the cops' heads to destroy their armor. & when they attack, well aimed shots to the head between the eyes.
thedtp
A community. There’s always been strength in numbers. And when we stand together, they are powerless.
ArtunioBanderas
Imagine to Be so affraid of your peoples reaction to your actions, that you have to have full military Gear up on every occasion. Might give you a hinta about moral and ethical grounds of Said actions
shoeonheadanditsyou
be safe out there people
iusedtodream
But if you can't be safe, be dangerous.
rdewalt
So when it was the pandemic, masks were for idiots, but now, they're just fine. Fuck these cowardly hypocrites. All of them. They're only doing this because of numbers and guns. Without either, they're all cowards.
I hope they get the life they deserve.
quade
Fuck ICE!
JustHereForTheCrumbs
and fuck their Fascist overlords. i got no problem with Conservatives. An efficient government exhibiting financial responsibility while largely allowing their constituents to live their life how they desire is truly an admirable set of ideals.
Too bad that Democrats are the conservative party here in the U.S.....
OdinVex
They have no problem wearing masks to hide their identities when they commit these atrocities. Fucking terrorists. (ICE, etc)
rudiboy2000
Notice how they ALL cover their faces. Their parents must so proud of them. Traitor Fuckers!!!!!
BosunMark
Jeezus fucking christ.. Open fascism .. If I was on the beach right now, I'd be there.. likely getting arrested for assault on a pig..
dogstarlove
There's more of us than there are of them... We all need to be willing to help in whatever way we can
MagicSpiderPoopHat
Just a reminder, everyone has second amendment rights in the United States. It's not illegal to show up to a protest armed. When people do so in large numbers, historically the authorities suddenly become much more respectful of the right to peaceably assemble for some reason. They even become more receptive to the message of the protestors, though who could say why. I would encourage exercising your second amendment rights in addition to your first, peacefully of course.
MagicSpiderPoopHat
With the important caveat that if you are going to do this, LEARN your state's firearm laws and precedent in addition to federal law so that you know what you can legally do, and TRAIN to use your firearm safely and effectively. If you buy a gun and show up without any idea of what you're doing, you put your fellow protestors at unnecessary risk. If you're going to commit to a cause, commit to knowing what you're doing first so that you don't become a liability.
ImAGrower
The #1 indicator that we are screwed as a country and the fascists legit won is not a single person actually assaulting or fighting back the ICE agents and such. Just hands out crying and saying Staaahhhppp pweeesssse.
TheSpindrifter
Why are you booing him? He is absolutely 100% correct. So far it's all been whiny bitches with phones yelling and filming and doing nothing, and one crazy badass bitch trying really hard to get run over and I totally respect her for that move. People should have jumped the goon when he got out of the SUV to remove her.
JustHereForTheCrumbs
I really like the dude in the foreground putting his hand on his sidearm....that's real straightforward goosestepping, right there.
AyatollahBahloni
They cover their faces because they don't want their moms and kids seeing what they do to other moms and kids. Fucking assholes is what they are.
ComradeZERO
Hey as a non American, is ICE a government funded agency? Why do they look like every member has brought their own equipment and don't have clearly displayed ICE logos like fire fighters or police?
sadurdaynight
Bc they filled the ranks w maga militia who brought their own tacticool kit from home to cosplay terrorists
gawdhawly
Yeh, what's with all the masks. Feels really weird to be that many, and that kitted out for something like this. Giving amateur kidnapper and ammosexual vibes. Real icky people...
ProjectDA
they are a federal agency. they have a lot of rules they are ignoring. theres a theory that their ranks are filled with the neonazis that the GOP knows. every video makes it swem more and more accurate.
Imademyselfsquirtle
They are J6 pardons.
StewedTomaters
I've yet to see any evidence of this. IIRC a lot of the J6 arrests were done on people with priors. I don't think they let you in at ICE with a criminal record.
That being said, I don't doubt it at all. Rule of law is being ignored at every opportunity.
PolyTheWicked
They are and it’s disgraceful. They’re the equivalent of the gestapo during WWII. Fuck them all
CthulhuIsRisen
I know that there are no MAGA in these comments, but I'm going to pretend for a moment. Looks at the number of personnel they need to arrest one person that is maybe guilty of a misdemeanor violation. How much do you think this cost the taxpayers, just in labor? How is this sustainable? How is this not a prime example of the government waste you claim to oppose?
RevolutionOnHerLips
The war on drugs, which has gone on for generations now, has proven they never cared about cost or efficiency. Those are just buzzwords. What they really want to do is harm people. Usually people of color.
munkis
Congratulations to drugs for winning the war on drugs. They made it all the way to the Whitehouse and richest man in 'merica
PixelSprite64
Efreeti
I'm really glad they never revealed his identity https://x.com/AmyEskind/status/1268545017808924673
BlackElkSpeaks
Clearly that's not the same guy.
smaard
That's an absolute fcking unit
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
Holy shit look at that unit
WeAreNotSmilesTImes
colderfish
Is there a reddit group or something where we can get alerts when they are in the area? I feel like we need to organize a fast response and fight back.
CatShadowleaf
I can't speak to where you live but there are standard social media and Reddit accounts tracking ICE where I live, plus a hotline we can call or text. If you have a subreddit for your town/county, that could provide some info. (Unless fascism is popular in your area in which case such resistance would be stifled.)
chicharrone
Catheren
KittyDish
Where were you Milley when we NEEDED you.
DrankTooMuchMead
I would love to see an army with that sentiment flood in and wipe out ice.
KiraOHara
As much as there are plenty of military folk who are chill and would support Gen. Milley's statement, there are unfortunately also a lot who just wanna be able to shoot people and call it patriotism.
VaultGirl69
That's why they're using ICE. The military has been proportionally against him. That's a problem for him. I hope they get a chance to put ICE in their place. Land mutiny. My father who is retired fully supported him through most of his bullshit. Then he openly supported Putin and my father was surprised and no longer supports him. No, he is not a smart man.
XaoJet
This. Everyone says they are trying to force Martial Law, but that is nonsense, they could declare that over anything already. They are hesitant too because if 100% of the military is not behind your dictatorship speed run even if your side "wins" you are almost assuredly not going to. We suck at COIN, are horrid at nation building, but we do "Blow shit up until the rubble bounces" well. If just 20% of our military isn't down with it we would be in a global conflict with ourselves.
VaultGirl69
It would easily be more than 40%. He'd have to stoke a frenemy nation, like Russia, to attack and weaken us to pull that off. And he'd risk more loss than wealth gained. They can't even take one smaller neighbor and we dump so much money into our military that it's beyond ridiculous. The joke, "find out why we don't have healthcare" comes to mind.
idontreadyourreplies
they wont
Twinklepot
Military personnel are trained to follow orders immediately and without question. It's the people at the top giving the orders that need to assess what is happening and rectify the situation.
OwlXiozee
I mean in a story book sure but I and many others around me were definitely not going to follow any unlawful order, as we were trained on that far more than I ever received any brainwashing. My base felt like we slipped into hell when Trump first got elected. Leadership had to put out emails telling people to not be disrespectful to the commander in chief. Just saying.
OwlXiozee
I've been out since 2018 now, but let me tell ya bud most military members are normal people who signed up to make something out of their dead-end lives with no way to pay for college and have no interest in combat or conflict at all. Sure, some generals could start throwing around military punishment for disobeying orders but the same could be said about you, after all you are only a draft away from being one of them.
XaoJet
That must be why they beat the difference between an lawful and unlawful order into us. Conscripts are trained to follow and obey without question, professional militaries have ranks of NCO corps who are going to question, second guess, revise twice and have come up with a new plan that may or may not align with the original goals by the time first chow is over.
lonelyrangerofthedreams
People are different. There are fascists too in the army and cops. When will be the moment, would you be sure who make the oath with his mind voted to freedom and equality and which one to control and power? I wouldn’t trust anyone anymore, sorry to say that, but is true.
SmugDruggles
So where the fuck they at then? Constitution is being ripped to shreds every fucking day this administration is in office and no one has done a goddamn thing about it.
I don’t give a shit what some military monkey has to SAY. I give a shit what he DOES. And right now they’re all fucking cowards in my eyes.
Rhythmaster
Milley actually stood up against trump, multiple times, using his high rank and celebrity to bring awareness to trump's fascist takeover. I'm not sure what else you want him to do, I'm pretty sure he was also ordered to do some fascist shit and refused. This is exactly what the military should be doing, staying the fuck out of internal protests and refusing to attack civilians. Unfortunately they arent all the same calibre as Mark Milley.
ScrippyChan
Only problem is oaths don't mean shit anymore, if they ever did in the first place. There is no honor inherent to the military.
nefarius101
Looks like deportation of jews in nazi germany
reichstein
DiracsDelta
Brownshirts are brown-shirting.
eaglesfield
Look at these ICE assholes, wannabe tough guys dressed like combat troops with automatic battlefield weapons so they can smash car windows and take screaming children and terrified woman into custody without warrants. Cowards!
jicahmusic
I’m amazed at how whiny they were about masks during Covid and no seem to have problem with them.
Luked0g440
Bubble181
But this doesn't affect *them*, just filthy brown people! What's not to understand?
tmshrp
Save these videos and pictures! There must be Nuremberg style trials. Until then, the regime will try everything to make it disappear.
shorey66
I think inglorious bastards had the right idea. Brand the fuckers
newsguycraigevans
Weird how posts about this keep disappearing. Probably just a coincidence!
Zamm005
Tiktok Tiktok Tiktok... I know you guys hate even the idea of it. But the people who made you hate the idea of it are the same people that keep making the posts everywhere else disappear!
thegoodowl
Save and repost!
ghim
I've seen at least 4 mysteriously disappear moments after I saw them.
CardboardEmpress
I've seen this 4 or 5 times on FP today.
ExtremeAndViolentButtFun
Imgur's owners, admins and staff aren't on your side.
DrFleisch
Weird how not a single mod reacts to any of the 100s of posts stating this... They must all be busy protesting themselves.
HomerSimpsonsEvilTwin
Unblock the politics tag? I just did so I could get more info and it's all I see pretty much on the front page.
smellsmiketeenspirit
On the top comment of a post on the front page...
KoalaOnTheJuice
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SugaryBonemeal
If imgur is going to silence this kind of shit then it's time for people to stop using imgur. The correct response is not to "show them we don't back down" because they don't care as long as you're using the site. The correct response is to leave, let them know that their censorship is the reason, and kick them right in the moneybags.
hereforthememes420
^^^ This. Couldn't agree more. Time to give BlueSky some attention. Like-minded peeps & all...
TheDefective
I've resisted bluesky, but I've also seen like 6 posts I was commenting on vanish while I slept. Time to find a new place.
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Good idea, I've heard all that talk from people about leaving Facebook and WhatsApp though. I don't use either. Are you going to leave imgur for real?
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
They backed down on punch-a-nazi day, they can be backed down again.
shorey66
Yeah but at some point you have to stop letting them off the hook. The site has been dieing for years. Maybe it's time for it to die
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Only way to show them is to not let them earn ad revenue. I'm fine with letting it die. At this point it has so little appeal and is just filling with garbage features.
MissSiesta
Yeah
I got reported and suspended for saying we should kill nazis. I don't find that radical at all.
Cbouch4rd
Dutch Imgur for Bluesky. I only came back to check content in the last week and it's not worth it.
hereforthememes420
Only way to stay current is in User Sub now. FP posts keep disappearing. Lots of bootlicking going on behind the scenes...
shorey66
Fuck Imgur. Seriously
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
I warned everyone about their "automod AI" and the shadowbanning shit repeatedly on post after post. There are other sites to stay informed on. Imgur is swallowing itself.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
It's on the front page now, wonder what changed
skapanda616
They got called out.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
Perhaps it got overwhelmed. A shadow ban doesn't remove the posts, just kind of hides them, so if enough people upvote it anyway, it will make it's way to the top.
putcleverusernamehere
Imgur is pretty much the only social media I've used for the last decade (I do follow my daughters on IG so I do some Nazi punching when I'm there). What sites do you use to stay informed?
StewedTomaters
The Ground News app.
hereforthememes420
Reuters, Politico, BBC. None of them bend the knee or sanewash the fascism.
ChainChompsky
Associated Press
putcleverusernamehere
For actual news sources that and Reuters are my go to
Bubbells
I think part of it is people not tagging things as political or whatever. They gave me notice once about that
TheDefective
A mandatory politics tag lets trolls find all political posts, creates echo chambers like realpolitics, truepolitics, magapolitics, etc, and turns the politics tag itself into a sub-community.
On top of that it enables coordinated algorithmic suppression of political tagged posts, or the ability to categorically deny a post to see the light of day by reporting it as improperly tagged forever.
ArcliteGhost
I mean, I report and block anyone who posts untagged politics. I say it all the time: I don't use imgur for politics, I use it for funny pictures and videos. If I want politics, I'll actively seek them out.
Regeny
So, everyone should do extra steps because it's not reasonable to expect that extra step from OP?! Yeah, no, fuck them.
forelle
Only bad thing about this is that politics has its way of seeking you out anyhow, in real life, with consequences.
VeryStableGenius
I'm afraid that the minute one ICE agent gets killed there's going to be a bloodbath.
9z2nf02h
Cops & NG did fine in 2020. They all comfortably took weeks of paid trauma leave.
SarahAlahn
It’s inevitable, this is how they want it. They want an officer to be attacked so that they can suppress us even more.
If you’d like to see what our government is trying to do, watch Andor, Season 2, episode 8. The massacre of Ghorman.
That’s what the right wing facists want.
DukePhelan
Then they get to play the numbers game, and the odds are not in their favor. The instant ICE opens fire on a crowd of people is when they start getting removed going to the store for food or stopping for gas. It will get bad, and ICE and the feds are not ready for it. But they be the ones to have to started the fire.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Counter argument: the entire history of policing in the usa.
DukePhelan
I would argue that the US has never had this situation before. Yes, the police have a habit of institutional discrimination and general dickishness but it's never been so openly supported and even encouraged at the federal level.
The Japanese interment or maybe the red scare might be the closest parallels.
RevolutionOnHerLips
Yeah, once ICE escalates it, it signals to everyone that there's no reason for civilians to hold back, either.
VeryStableGenius
Exactly.
walnutbreath
There's going to be a bloodbath no matter what happens. Trump has been itching for one since his first term. If protestors won't give him a reason, he'll stage an event.
cloudstrife046583000
I'm worried about that too but and it's crazy to think this could be a possibility but i also think it could be done by ICE themselves to further the agenda. Just look at what happens to cops who actually have a conscience and try to do the right thing. They get weeded out sometimes violently. It would put it past then to off a "problem" as an excuse to go guns a blazing.
SloppyPotter
A bloodbath of cops dying in L.A.?
EedDaPooPoo
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VeryStableGenius
No, I mean protesters. BTW, I don't know how much LA cops are involved with this, but my impression is very few to none. My sense is they don't want to get involved. They are much more a part of the community rather than a part of the fascist take-over of our government. I know they have a bad reputation, see also: Rodney King among many other examples. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I hope I'm right.
NKato
Cops actually do not fucking like ICE for the most part. These fuckwits are actually making cops' jobs a lot harder than they need to be, hence why they took two hours to respond to ICE's request for help at the Home Depot today.
Didn't help that ICE gassed the fuck out of everybody and the cops couldn't get close because of the tear gas. lolololololol.
DukeDarkwood
The other day's video of protestors just shouting away ICE agents - successfully - didn't have them opening fire on anyone.
If they're smart, these guys won't start anything, not if there's a truly sizeable crowd around. If any of them open fire, then ALL the restraint goes away, and the crowd will curbstomp them. Once the "authorities" are willing to kill civilians, civilians have no reason, AT ALL, not to defend themselves.
20 ICE Nazis vs. 100 civilians. These guys don't even have the kind
DukeDarkwood
of guns that can just mow crowds down with automatic fire. Even if another group did, would they all act together, in concert, at the right moment? Not against the people they came to abduct - against the masses around them.
And if ICE did prevail, and just massacred a hundred protesters, what then? The MOMENT that goes public, the reaction will be severe. I can't even predict what form it would take, but you don't MURDER an entire crowd like that.
You mentioned the Rodney King riots. Over
DukeDarkwood
five days and multiple incidents, the death toll was 63. Over 2300 were injured, yeah, but only 63 died. And of them, only ten were at the hands of authorities (9 by LAPD and one by the National Guard). The rest were casualties of the rampant rioting itself.
Police thugs brutally beat one man - who was not resisting, and only tried (and failed) to flee the beating. And it set off five days of violence. People died. People got hurt. And entire neighborhoods were utterly demolished.
If ICE were
UnattendedDeviant
A few 2nd Amendment solution providers still ok, Repubs?
cptdarling501
You do know that legally owning a firearm is near impossible in California compared to its neighboring states.
dposton70
I never had an issue when I lived there. But I didn't have some "Tacti-Kool" tricked out gun.
spookyu
I literally bought my first AR-15 there, it has additional laws regarding magazines and various features etc. (some sensible, some silly, it's nuanced like most things), but it's as easy as anywhere else in terms of ownership.
Psychedelifragilisticexpialidocious
It doesn't seem to matter since none of you NRA cultists are opposed to tyranny as long as you're allowed to keep your toys.
HarelessMoon
There's a gun store down the street from me, only thing I need to get a gun, is to pass a firearm safety course, which can be achieved in a day and all it entails is knowing terminology and shit like, "Don't leave a loaded gun around a toddler". If that constitutes, "near impossible" I have concerns for you.
Gaelwyn
It's not near impossible to own a gun in California. Maybe it's a lot easier in Oregon or Nevada but that doesn't stop you getting a gun in California, you just have to follow the process.
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs
pvtsquirel
It is not, I lived in California and we had like 15 guns, that was over a decade ago, but still
PointsAreForB1tches
Brainwashed MAGA chud says what?
UnattendedDeviant
California has over 3 million registered gun owners. So know, I don't know that. Where are you getting your info from to think it's nearly impossible. California is in top 5 on the list of most gun registrations.