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Data
https://smartelections.substack.com/p/strange-numbers
Graph data
https://www.reddit.com/r/somethingiswrong2024/s/9pUwSR0eez
SmartElections calculated the drop-off vote data in 5 swing states, and this video shows that it is likely she had ridiculous turnout and actually won 5 swing states.
They know this because her swing state numbers still closely match Biden’s from 2020. Yet, she’s hundreds of thousands of votes under her next party’s election per swing state.
Split-tickets is the excuse, but that doesn’t hold water because she didn’t drop in numbers from the Dem base like we’d expect to see.
The only reason Trump won all 7 swing states is he had a suspicious amount (100,000s) of drop-off votes pushing his vote totals above even Biden’s in 2020.
Where did these votes come from? They didn’t come from the original Dem base because Harris still matched Biden’s turnout.
Did new Reps just show up for this election in only the swing states and only vote Trump and nothing else on their ballot?
But the overall voting totals don’t show a record number of votes this election, overall there was less turnout so far then 2020.
It would be improbable for Trump to have motivated hundreds of thousands of new Republican voters to just show up and vote for him in only the swing states.
It’s likely Harris had a large amount of Dems register and vote this election in the swing states, and those votes were flipped to Trump for the presidential race but left them Dem in other positions.
Outside the swing states we see the expected trend of Harris averaging 2% over her next party candidate compared to the -1.3% or so in the swing states.
This suggests a hack likely flipped up to 3% of her votes and gave them to Trump in the swing states.
What’s wild is even with her votes being stolen she still exceeded Biden in 2 or 3 swing states this election.
Break down video:
https://youtu.be/fF22jp2VBJg?si=2QdYYrs1dUAIMEuX
SmartElections data showing suspiciously negative votes for Harris compared to her party’s next election position.
Comparison between 2020-2024 states in many graphs to follow.
Notice the abnormal shifts from a somewhat chaotic spread to very clean systematic ones.
Zero counties flipped red to blue this election. 1983 was a similar election I believe, Reagan over Mandale.
30 counties flipped then, and Reagan had even higher votes then this election.
Trumps numbers grew so much in the swing states he’s exceeding Biden’s vote totals from 2020.
Almost like they planned to shift enough votes to beat Biden if he had run again.
Notice no overlap here?
Hmmm
Very hmm
Even overlap here and Obama won in a landslide.
Bullet ballots was the first red flag, now we know they’re not real votes but flipped votes from Harris.
This creates the illusion of Trump only votes in the swing states.
Remember this margin?
They flipped enough votes from Harris to trump on the swing states to win all 7.
The margin of flipped votes exceeds trumps victory in atleast 5.
He stole the election.
They’ve been screaming it since the beginning.
This is just a meme, not actually real.
historycat
This is about 1000x more data and information that the 2020 truthers ever presented, but because they whined and moaned for 4 years nothing will be done now.
So, Trump just keeps asking "Are you going to let me get away with this?"
And we just keep saying yes.
So after stealing state secrets, after stealing an election, the only thing left is canceling elections.
And no one will have the guts to stop that either.
Game over. Time to secede. Join Canada.
TotallyNotVillain
This is exactly the kind of "research" the MAGA morons were doing after Trump lost in 2020. It's time to move on. Kamala lost, burying yourself in conspiracy theories won't change that.
epistlero
our electronics are more incredible than I know, but I know that the technological ability now exists to look and listen to people almost anywhere and get into almost any device and steal info, and of course viruses that can make your device do what they want. If some computer person hasn't figured out how to throw an election, I'm sure it's just a matter of time
UnityInArms
An election hack on this scale would take a huge effort.
Perhaps the effort of a foreign nation such as Russia, in coordination with Elon Musk and pro-Trump Republicans?
UnityInArms
Also look at TurningPointUSA.
MidoryMoon
Well, either that or half the vote-eligible people in this country are facists. And while I wouldn't particularly want to believe that, more and more it appears to be the case...
mrthewhitee
Well, the previous 2 elections showed there were about 45% of eligible voters who supported a fascist, so not out of the question a few percentage more voted this election.
seenunseen
A lot of young voters went trump, while we assumed they'd go kamala. Kids are dumb and suggestible
UnityInArms
Only in the swing states?
That doesn’t make sense.
UnityInArms
Also as we see with the data Dems had majority support except for President. So hundreds of thousands of people in only the swing states split ticket?
There’s no specific reason why we wouldn’t see conjoined states close to Arizona showing the same trends for split tickets too, yet we don’t.
UnityInArms
The problem is how bad the media manipulation is.
So many Americans are uniformed and only catch snips of the news at night on Fox.
They don’t see what we see about Trump, his lies, his criminal activities, etc.
They only see how Harris doesn’t have a policy (incorrect) or how she’s inexperienced (more experienced than Trump at this point in politics, career prosecutor, VP, etc).
Lionskull
Harris was just a trash candidate and down ballot Dems out competed her. Biden was a terrible president with his terrible foreign policy and being too senile to actually drop out so that the Dems can have a primary and Harris did nothing to distance herself from him.
corndude101
No, they see it… they just don’t care.
Remember, these people believe: “Rules for thee not for me.”
They are ok with people getting away with things so long as they aren’t directly screwed over or affected.
They don’t understand that when Trump roles back EPA protections on clean water; how that affects them.
It’s what happens when people are uneducated.
choicebutts2
FFS, just stop it.
Gogoglovitch
Look. No one here is really qualified to evaluate this evidence. Even the basic data involved could be true or it could be completely made up. So don't take it here. Send it to the Democratic Party, to ProPublica, to anyone who's genuinely qualified to evaluate it and is interested in the truth. If it's true, there's not much any of us here can do about it, and if it's false, it's just conspiracy-mongering and trying to sow chaos.
UnityInArms
All the mainstream media stations are too afraid to look crazy talking about election fraud, if it occurred at this scale.
You don’t need a degree in cyber security and knowledge in election analysis to see how clearly this data points to huge irregularities in this election.
Mr21782Man
They won't because it is just conspiracy mongering. Some of this data is from early in November before the tallies where complete.
UnityInArms
Some of the data is from early November, such as the bullet ballot theory.
The videos do cover how this theory is actually technically incorrect because they were instead flipped votes that look like bullet ballots.
Mr21782Man
"This doesn't actually show what the title or post claims if you can sit through a ton of nonsense in the video"
TotallyNotVillain
This is exactly the kind of "research" the MAGA morons were doing after Trump lost in 2020. It's time to move on. Kamala lost and Trump will be sworn in as President on January 20th. Your conspiracy theories won't change that. Protest, get involved in local nonprofits, volunteer to help with the 2026 midterms. Move on.
sajgj
Is anyone seriously investigating this? If this is true, we can overturn the election results. Do it now before we lose everyting.
whoatherebigfella
The Dems have already lost everything, especially credibility. At least we have another four years to figure out exactly what Harris did in her previous roles to deserve to be president, then we can say that instead of the stupid shit we were peddling during this race.
UnityInArms
I don’t know.
Dems have been pretty quiet about this stuff.
Safflower777
And yet no high level types are pursuing this, which enrages me. I see patterns; always have. Saw them in 2016 AND 2024!
wildsageHMC
I am apathetic at this point. I was going to die broke and disabled whether Harris won or not, like many other Americans who have been left to rot regardless of which gang rules the nation.
Knifesmith
Well, at least if this all turns out to be true, then we can depend on the Democrats to write a sternly worded letter as they hand off power to the Republicans.
UnityInArms
Sadly this should have been dealt with as soon as he led an insurrection the first time!
sjester42
I mean given that Nye county in Nevada swung blue is actually really telling to me. Take the most country, inbred bastards you've ever met, and then make them so ornery that they have to move to the middle of nowhere, and you might have a decent grasp of them. Still blue.
SavageDrums
The republicans have cheated with varying levels of success in every election since at least 2000, only an idiot would think they didn't cheat this time.
UnityInArms
Their normal cheating is more in line with meddling.
If this election was rigged, it was a huge step over the line into full blown treason and insurrection.
Changing votes is the destruction of American’s voices.
LuminoZero
For those paying attention at home, the DOJ is absolutely forbidden from doing anything about this until the election is certified (which is happening tomorrow). I have my doubts that anything will happen to punish Republicans for cheating in broad daylight, but if hope is your thing, have fun.
TotallyNotVillain
For those paying attention at home: there was no voter fraud, and the election wasn't stolen. The DOJ isn't forbidden from investigating election fraud. Don't believe the Russian/Chinese propaganda. Kamala lost fair and square. It's time to stop living in the past and start making plans for the future.
LuminoZero
Somebody who makes excuses for fascists doesn't want us looking into obvious election fraud? Shocking.
randehman
What liberals should have taken away from 2020 is that without context, data can say anything you want it to. Like that there’s an easy way to edit the election results in favor of Trump that “they” didn’t use when he lost in 2020. We should be better than this, not suckers for the same disinformation farm vtubers who use AI voices so you can’t tell how Russian it is.
UnityInArms
Also trying to attack the person instead of the data tells us a lot.
UnityInArms
I like how you claim the people trying to point out Russian election interference are actually the Russians?
randehman
Lil homie, this Dire Talks YouTube channel has existed for ONE MONTH, is filled now with “use the 14th amendment stay mad Harris won” videos, and is using an fake avatar reading a script via AI voice. This couldn’t be more Russian if the motherfucker was drinking vodka on a bear. Learn from the past, don’t repeat it.
UnityInArms
That’s cute.
whitefoxkei
This would be great if it fucking mattered at all and anyone actually did something about it.
UnityInArms
If everyone agrees we need audits and investigations it does matter.
DionysianMask
Oh wow so the party that can't win without cheating cheated to gain power again? Who could have seen that coming
UnityInArms
Plot twist indeed.
BlackBearChopSticks
We’ll they are running out of time. And I don’t see them doing anything about it.
TotallyNotVillain
Because there was no voter fraud, and the election wasn't stolen. Don't believe the Russian/Chinese propaganda. Kamala lost fair and square. It's time to stop living in the past and start making plans for the future.
theoriginalgiga
These are all great info but can they PROVE it? That's the $64,000 question. Can you PROVE it was rigged?
Feralkyn
What is a drop-off vote? And a split vote?
UnityInArms
A split-vote is where I vote Republican or Democrat for president, and the opposite party for the next highest race like senator.
UnityInArms
Drop-off votes are the difference from party president to the next highest race, like senator.
So Harris’s votes versus the Dem senator votes.
If she gets more votes than her party senator in that state it’s a positive value, she gets less it’s a negative value.
So in 2024 Harris got less votes in the swing states then all her next party race candidates.
-1.3% I think.
Outside the swing states she got an average of 2%.
Feralkyn
Thank you for the explanations!
I'd wonder if the drop-off votes (if I'm even understanding this right) are down to racism/sexism in some voters, but that'd be a depressingly huge number
UnityInArms
It’s unlikely, given it’s a suspiciously consistent rate in the swing states.
We’d see more chaotic voting patterns, not hundreds of thousands of similar margins across all 7 swing states, but not in the non-swing states.
UnityInArms
Swing states aren’t magical states, they’re not isolated from the rest of the country.
We’d see similar voting trends in counties close to the state lines, and neighboring states somewhat. Yet we don’t, it’s a huge difference.
Mr21782Man
Can we stop with the conspiracy theory bullshit? She lost because fewer people voted. A hack is too much effort to sway an election. That results in a bigger swing toward Republicans. That's what the data shows. Fewer voted for Harris than Biden in 2020. That's what this shows. They're cherry picking data to support a conclusion. Anomalies should exist. Ask someone to flip a coin 100 times. If they claim that they didn't get heads 3 times in a row and tails 3 times in a row they're lying.
UnityInArms
Swing state data shows Harris performed as well as Biden, and exceeded his numbers in Georgia and North Carolina.
Mr21782Man
That doesn't make up for "What’s wild is even with her votes being stolen she still exceeded Biden in 2 or 3 swing states this election."
fearlessfloyd
I know a lot of life long Republicans who voted the straight R ticket except for the asshole at the top. They didn't vote for Harris either, because Democrat.
My theory is that those tickets had a vote for Trump added in places of no vote for either candidate. Hard to prove because their whole ballot would be R. But that's a hypothesis I had when I couldn't sleep last week.
UnityInArms
Yea we can’t make any conclusions on that level without significant data and more evidence.
There was concerns about the Elon musk voter lottery or whatever. Theoretically they could have used that voter data to supplement votes across the swing states, and these would show up as bullet ballots as well
UnityInArms
But there is clear indicators that if there was a hack it flipped Harris votes, which is why we see such a huge difference in drop-off votes in only the swing states.
bemibet
So is anything doing to be done about it? Or will republicans just do this in every election from now on, because they can?
TotallyNotVillain
There was no voter fraud, and the election wasn't stolen. Don't believe the Russian/Chinese propaganda. Kamala lost fair and square. It's time to stop living in the past and start making plans for the future.
UnityInArms
I think pointing out Russia helped Trump cheat this election means I’m not working for them, right?
BeefiusMaximus1
Mealy mouth broken record bullshit, you gaslighting засранец.
bemibet
Was the election stolen in 2020?
TotallyNotVillain
No.
UnityInArms
You know you’re onto some good stuff when the bots are out in force.
freakshow314
Lol who you calling a bot 🤣
thinkybrainpains
You aren’t on to anything.
UnityInArms
UnityInArms
Was going for the “these aren’t the droids you’re looking for” but couldn’t find it so you get dancing Yoda.
hellospacemonkey
Someone walk me through the hypothetical steal: 60 MAGA-sworn agents in 60 voting districts that swapped voting machine memory cards? software level hacking at a different level? wouldn't the FBI/CIA (assuming Russia is involved) have 1 communication leak out of the ~200 people that needed to coordinate this?
UnityInArms
And they may well have that proof.
We will either see that soon after certification this week, or we won’t see anything and the election continues as normal.
hellospacemonkey
Figure there would be a big leak if Pennsylvania found 100K Trump votes that didn't come into the district to physically vote. Meaning I assume they have a head count or mail count in multiple places.
UnityInArms
The red flags and theories point to some form of hack supported by Russia, and maybe Elon.
There was a huge movement by TurningPoint USA to get pro-trump agents into all the major swing state polling locations as workers. They’d have physical access.
hellospacemonkey
Yes, and not a single leak or mess up? I'd like to believe we a better country but the numbers don't explain shifts in California and places like Colorado. Again, I want to believe.
downrightmike
The FBI Special Agent Investigating Trump, who found him not guilty, was found guilty of taking Russian money.
UnityInArms
How ironic.
downrightmike
As planned
buck2202
I'm sorry, but this sounds like nonsense. If you do this same "analysis" for 2016 versus 2020, does it then look like Biden cheated? What about 2012 versus 2016?
I'd love to wake up tomorrow and see evidence in credible news, but if there's a conspiracy, OP is not convincing me. It's been leaked from D sources that summer internal polling showed Rs winning the presidency and house in a *landslide*. Seems like Kamala made up a ton of ground and saved a lot of seats, but fell a little short
buck2202
And, like, if you were gonna cheat, wouldn't you also cheat in the house? Why be half-assed about it? The final margin is 215D-220R (+1D from '22), and the R caucus is going to be *extremely* dysfunctional as always, with in-fighting at every turn.
UnityInArms
If you cheated outside the presidential race on a mass scale it’s more likely to be picked up on in audits and recount efforts.
buck2202
I guess conspiracies are exciting, but why not also work to end gerrymandering? (which easily accounts for the house margin *and* adds to voter disengagement) Or promote RCV to enable non-spoiler third parties? Or advocate for DC+PR statehood given the *dismal* future for Democrats in the Senate? Or push for the Nat'l Popular Vote Compact in your state? Or *something*
UnityInArms
I do agree gerrymandering is wrong.
buck2202
Guess I should add that I *do* believe in a pervasive, systematic effort to keep people disengaged from their government and voting--whether that's actual, *legal* suppression like harsh ID reqs, gutting the VRA, and long voting lines because polling places have closed; or more insidious suppression like "neutral" media sane-washing extreme R positions and feeding the "both sides are the same so my vote doesn't matter" mindset. But my conspiracy isn't as exciting ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
UnityInArms
I could have believed trump winning this election.
But it quickly became unbelievable he won all 7 swing states by drop-off votes only, and Harris had a negative ratio in only the swing states.
UnityInArms
Good questions!
And no, the analysis for Biden in past elections does not show the same patterns that point to vote flipping as clearly as in this election.
Harris has a negative vote count under her party in only the swing states.
This makes no sense.
buck2202
In Washington, Harris got ~7k fewer votes than Maria Cantwell. In Ohio, Harris got ~117k fewer votes than Sherrod Brown. In Missouri, ~43k fewer votes than Lucas Kunce. In New York, ~90k fewer than Kirsten Gillibrand. Safe R and safe D states
Woogyface
well we all know the election was rigged but we're the "good" people that CAN'T complain for the same reason the bad people complained before. i hate this timeline
DukeDarkwood
If we don't have ironclad proof, the GOP will say we're crying wolf. They made such a stink about the "stolen election" in 2020 for a reason - that reason wasn't to get Trump declared the winner (although they would have liked that); it was to poison the well.
Here we are, four years later. If we suggest the election is rigged, and don't have the smoking gun to prove it, we're copycats. It might even convince the fence-sitters that "both sides really ARE the same".
It's sickeningly effective.
Ismellofhockey
We do NOT know the election was rigged. We have some random internet posts alleging fraud. Much smarter people with access to much better information have accepted the results. That's probably a good indication that we should too.
Woogyface
so you think everything went as it should? russia did absolutly nothing and everybody voted once and nobody got paid to rig it a little bit and absolutly everything was 100% legal? yeah, me neither
Ismellofhockey
Rigging an election is a much bigger accusation than asking whether everything was perfectly on the level. We know Russia put their thumb on the scale. We know a few people might have tried to vote twice. Did it affect the outcome? No. Democrats lost because they couldn't craft a message that blue collar workers believed. Union members voted from Trump. That's the scandal.
UnityInArms
Look at Romania and Georgia. Russia just called it quits and didn’t try to touch the U.S?
UnityInArms
Yea I don’t think so.
TimeFoDat
In CA you can check who/what you voted for online in all past elections. Do these states have that? If upward of 80k people per state had their votes flipped, it should not be hard to find an example.
UnityInArms
Great point!
I don’t know, but I do know if there was an election hack the main focus would be the swing states because those are reasonable to see shift party to party.
California turning red would not be believable.
DocFunkenstein
Oh stop it, we're better than that. We must allow the Republicans do anything and everything they want, right down to blatantly cheating and openly bragging about it, while we just sit there and take it like little bitches.
Because we're better than that.
...and the people saying that shit wonder why they keep getting treated like little bitches.
Mostlydeadpool
its all a two-man con. it's like a wrestling match. both sides are in on it. one side is good and the other side is bad. The good side can't do bad things. the bad side won't do good things. and while you're watching the show, everyone gets pickpocketed quietly by corporations in the crowd.
jonReremy9669
thats right! we have to go high! when they go low!
SilverNicktail
Yeah aren't we stupid for not invention conspiracies when we don't get our own way. We should definitely act like a bunch of MAGA fuckwits instead, that's much more rational.
DocFunkenstein
Yes, that's what's going on.
You're so smart, so sophisticated, so enlightened.
Enjoy being their little bitch.
PaintedSlate
Eh, there's just not enough evidence to get past the normal explanations. At least not yet. Serious investigations are needed whenever you see these vulnerabilities, but I'm gonna withhold judgment on whether direct hacking caused this outcome. In the meantime, I suspect we as a people suck a bit worse than you think we do. The social engineering piece of it is blatant enough.
DocFunkenstein
Well, you know, if you ignore that -- once again -- Trump fucking BRAGGED about it.
God people like you are so obnoxiously ignorant.
PaintedSlate
I appreciate you agree my argumentation is on point up to there. You should have led with that! A confession would make all the difference. What exactly did he say that provides evidence about all the above?
Oh, blocked? Wow. That's just bad faith. And I think you knew it the whole time.
acetothermus
Did something fucky happen in the 2024 election? Absolutely. Just look at the nearly exponential number of bullet ballots.
The problem is that the time to do anything about it is past in most states. And even if it wasn't Harris would have to contest it. After 2000, I doubt any Democrat is hungry to go down that path again.
In short: We. Are. Fucked.
BeefiusMaximus1
Jesus Christ I'm sick of hearing this rhetoric. Why is everyone so eager to live out the most dire of self fulfilling prophecies? Or is the baby edgelord act just to get "up votes"? Keep your contagious defeatism to yourself for fuck sakes, I'm sure you cried like an infant at the maga dummies not masking up but here you are, spreading virulence without a care.
acetothermus
First of all I love it when the boot licking idiots announce themselves.
Second of all if you didn't have your head so far up your own ass and your tongue buried so deep in Trumps shit stained asshole you might have realized that a racist, sexist, rapist, fascist, xenophobic, authoritarian loving, dictator wannabe is actually antithetical to everything the US is supposed to stand for. I'd tell you to stick your own rhetoric up your own ass but there's clearly no room with your head in there.
hipifreq
Yup, goes to SCOTUS and they crown the king... FML
notreallyaclevername
I'm genuinely disgusted with her that she didn't contest the election. Her career is over anyway, she could have gone out with one last ditch effort to save this country. What would it have cost her to request a recount? Magat losers crying about "so it's ok when you do it but not us??" (When that response would have been legal unlike their solution of storming the Capitol)
KirchoffsVoltageLaw
A lot of people purposely stayed home because of how the Biden administration is treating the Gaza/Israel war. Michigan in particular was lost because the entire population of Dearborn who are majority Muslim flipped red. They were solid blue last presidential cycle
GigawattWarlock
While that is true, this article is about an entirely different effect. A large number of ballots, voting only for Trump and no other candidates (either red or blue) are claimed to have been counted. Or more accurately, they claim that they were added to the vote tally. This is a completely separate issue from low turnout.
ExecutorHideo
Doesn't Musks company handle the network the voting machines in several swing states use?
UnityInArms
Apparently Starlink was used, yes.
acetothermus
Well I hope they enjoy being demonized ever more under the new regime. Because Trump and company will owe them as enemies of America.
KirchoffsVoltageLaw
They all keep saying "he won't do it" so yeah...
UnityInArms
The lack of Dem turnout didn’t impact the swing states like we are being told.
Harris didn’t fall under Biden’s votes from 2020, she on average matched or exceeded them in the swing states.
Yet Trump got hundreds of thousands of “split ticket” votes, or bullet ballots, or whatever they actually are just for him and not the Republican Party.
This is a huge red flag, because he received enough of these abnormal votes to win each of the swing states solely do to those.
whoatherebigfella
It’s not like the Dems to be silent on a subject even if they are planning no action on said subject. It’s ridiculous to think that they would not say anything about an alleged stolen election. Their inactions have historically been their choice of action.
Ironferrox
It makes sense if the democrats have always been content to take the position place as the allowed opposition party that solely exists to perpetrate an illusion of choice in an America where republicans are the only real party in charge.
When you realize the democrats have always been willing when the time comes to let a pro corporate christofacist Republican Party take over while they maintain token power and continue to live comfy corporate bribed lives. It becomes easy to see.
Ironferrox
The democrats were always going to surrender when the time came to allow for a peaceful transformation of America into a christfascist state.
Ironferrox
The only way to delay it was to just vote for them and not let republicans take all three branches and we failed at that. Now we deal with what we fucking deserve for beating a nation who as a population chose to elect Trump again. This is what we deserve.
bolshevikmuppet
Nobody deserves misery. Or a society that promotes misery to no point. Not that there's much point to misery, ever, but idk, crime happens anywhere and there's a point to making some people miserable to punish crimes, but not to making society miserable.
Mostlydeadpool
Their only choice of action. they're the "good guys" in this wrestling match so they can't appear to do anything fucky. at least not in public.
LitchLitch
Nobody believes this.
Nobody sane, with a deep understanding of the American voting system believes this.
I really think this may be Russian disinformation trying to stir up shit over nothing.
Jordan7831
I’m with you on this. Even if it’s a hard truth. This would be a conspiracy on a massive scale. To many failure points where it would unravel. These idiots can’t stop saying the quiet parts out loud. Do you really think no one would brag about it. Or leak info when they didn’t get what they were promised. What about CISA. Not a word from them about any shenanigans
UnityInArms
Trump literally told people he didn’t need their votes before the election.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Probably. Anything which accelerates the collapse of the US' social order is their goal.
UnityInArms
A lot of people believe this, because it makes since given all the red flags and anomalies we’ve been seeing this election.
Also if Trump wins Russia wins so…
2ToTooOrTwo
It may be, but it deserves its day in the public square of ponderance.
whoatherebigfella
Sounds like something a Russian disinformation expert might say.
2ToTooOrTwo
Could be. What the fuck do any of us know?
TotallyNotVillain
That is exactly what Trump/Alex Jones/Tucker Carlson/Jeanine Pirro/etc. said after the 2020 election. Kamala lost. Stop living in the past and move on. Start making plans for the future and help us build a better country one brick, one citizen, one good deed at a time.
LitchLitch
No, it really doesn't. Until and unless there is clear evidence of something being wrong (which has not been presented) all this does is increase civil unrest and uncertainty.
caledric
And how will we find this evidence with your Russian daddy telling his MAGA puppets to block and interfere with any attempts to look into it. With all the whistle blowers killed in the past few years they've already shown they are more than willing to kill to keep things quiet.
LitchLitch
*facepalm* Did you know gullible is not in the dictionary? Look it up.
If someone can produce actual evidence the entire fucking human universe will focus on this. But they can't because there is no evidence, it is not a credible claim.
Find me any actual election specialist, someone with professional experience and education in this field who thinks this is likely to have happened.
You can't because they don't exist.
You are the one actually being the Russian stooge.
2ToTooOrTwo
Your mind is already made up, and you don't give a fuck! So, piss off!
caledric
No matter how hard you MAGA fucks try you'll never flip the Russia thing to point at Democrats when there is CLEAR evidence of communication from MAGA.
LitchLitch
Dude I can't even understand what you are gibbering about. There is no evidence the 2024 (or the 2020) election had any vote manipulation going on.
Pretending it did is a direct attack on American democracy. So, quit attacking democracy.
Goldensands
Bwhaha that's ironic since america has voted to end its democracy and will be a fascist dictatorship by next month.
LitchLitch
Nope, I mean sure that's what the cheetoh would like to do but it will never happen.
Goldensands
Why, because american institutions are strong and healthy? Because it's ppl are educated and politically conscious? No wait, you're a moron - so you must think that your nationalistic indoctrination and gun nut culture will save you. It won't.
UnityInArms
Also verifying a fair election is about as democratic as it comes.
LitchLitch
Absolutely, and this was the most verified election in American history with the policies and procedures put in after the disinfo campaign of 20
UnityInArms
There’s lot of statistics red flags to suggest there was so..
LitchLitch
Write them up, publish them in the peer reviewed press and become world famous.
Seriously, I have not seen a rigorous statistical analysis that shows any problems. Every time you look into the "anomalies" they dissolve like cotton candy in a rain storm.
UnityInArms
Alright do the analysis on my data?
I just did it for you…