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Endocrom
Pollution machines the likes of which Captain Planet villains would be jealous.
hsalonen3000
AC also costs more on your electric bill. Last summer I paid 2-3€ / day to keep the AC on. Totally worth it.
warpfactor1
Dont foget that as commercial customers they get better kwh pricing than individual homes as well
Davedavedavedavedave
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1OTJoMjNwbWU0dXRld3c1MDF3cXFqdDBraTFnY3NyODZpdGNxNTF6bSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/5TyHX6T4QZcPpo78Tr/200w.webp
MaleekTheFreak
TheFontSnob
My brain makes the coin sound every time.
Kotarisu
a bit late but here you go (sound added)
DreamPhreak
Here in Texas, they're making multiple new data centers even though we had problems with the grid in the past, like in the freeze that killed 246 people. Crypto miners too: ERCOT paid a crypto miner (Riot Platforms) $32 million to reduce mining for a month.
Zeplin
It's legit funny how huge a percentage of Imgur are against doing anything for the climate if it in any way inconveniences them.
Harik
Oh do shut the hell up. They're telling everyone in california to shower once a week so golf courses can stay green.
69Voltage
( . )( . ) > a/c
abraxasfury
( . )( . )( . )( . )( . ) > a/c
mixiekins
OneBananaForSale
To me "I can use AC because others use AI" sounds as dumb as "I don't need to vote because what does 1 vote matter". Your planet is burning / dying. Please try to do what you can
Harik
if everyone turned off their AC for a day a single flight by a CEO would still cause more climate change.
Kappa043
This is corporate shill propaganda. You're being forced to limit your QOL for nothing. The reason these corpo fucks support "green" stuff is to make your life worse. Wake up.
AgainstMethod
The metaphor is especially apt because voting is a better way to reduce emissions in the long run than anything you could do at home.
Cargobiker530
Anybody with solar panels gets to use all the AC their panels will provide power for which in a lot of houses will chill the place down to about 60 degrees.
dudehiemer
First of all, what energy conservation practices do you think billionaires, and multi-millionaires are taking? Secondly, where can I see these images of women with five breasticles so I can stay away from them and warn my friends?
technicalfool
ComfyUI, the right template, a clever bit of prompting with some unlocked models and a couple of select LORAs, and you can make as many tidds on your preferred catgirls as you like. All local with no datacentres involved. Can even solar power it. Suntiddies.
aslum
I dunno for sure but Slaanesh and NSFW might be some good keywords to get you started.
OdinYggd
Travelling the world in a private jet singing songs about conserving the environment. Isn't it amazing? Rich people continue to do as they please and expect everyone else to pick up the slack.
I say we recycle some steel into pitchforks, and make torches using vegetable oil as the fuel. Eco-friendly protesting.
gayvillian
My city opted me into a program where they could remotely shut down your air conditioner, and they gave you a discount on your electric bill. It was 82 in my house and took 4 hours to cool off when they stopped. It cost more money to run my AC for four straight hours than what I save. I opted out the next day.
Monocular0
Ok am not an expert in thermodynamics but it seems to me it takes more energy to cool a 90-degree house to 75 than to just keep it at 75.
CitrusyGarlic
Does everyone know that AI centers aren't immune to explosions? Because I heard this weird rumor that they're impervious to that, and I just want to set the record straight that they're not.
AgainstMethod
That wouldn't solve any of the problems you actually want to solve.
CitrusyGarlic
You've got to think larger than "building go boom, building not work". If it's done in the right way with the right accompanying messaging it can be the catalyst that begins a process that ends with these centers being well regulated.
AgainstMethod
Sure, all those bombings that prompt a mature and constructive response from governments and the public.
Plagen
Honestly, I don't get the AI image thing. I messed around with Stable Diffusion for a while. The program was saved locally on my PC and doesn't connect to the internet at all. I probably generated thousands of images in a few days while messing around with it. My electricity usage increase wasn't noticeable.
OdinYggd
Running AI software as a local instance is not that different in consumption from running a detailed game or doing any other major number crunching application.
The problem is large scale AI clouds doing things that many people don't want and don't agree with are sucking up energy so fast that it is completely undoing decades of efficiency goals and conservation in mere months.
aslum
It's less the individual uses and more the training that is the issue. It's popular so everyone is trying to train "better" AI which uses
aslum
more and more resources to train. If it was just a SINGLE training session and all AI are good forever it'd be no problem. Unfortunately
aslum
since virtually all of them are trained via theft, but also because of capitalism, basically none of the companies are willing to share
aslum
their models and every new company has to train from scratch.
Gogoglovitch
It's more about the costs involved in creating that image generator -- the scraping of the entire Internet for enough images to steal, followed by the lengthy, intensive number-crunching it needs to actually 'learn' from them. That burns a lot more power than you're seeing used in the end product. And, of course, they do it all again for the next incrementally better version.
Filanwizard
AI needs to either go away or be forced by regulations to be more efficient.
If we can put mpg or L/km requirements on cars then we surely must be able to put a flops/watt requirement on data centers.
Endocrom
Isn't that what that Chinese AI did? They were kneecapped by processor imports and had to be clever instead of brute forcing it like here?
AgainstMethod
Stuff like this always starts with an inefficient proof concept followed by years of marginal improvements to bring cost down
Filanwizard
Also we are really paying the piper now for chickening out on nuclear after 3mi Island and Chernobyl.
AgainstMethod
If we ever get fission power back in the US, it'll be at the request of the AI billionaires.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
It's actually vastly more efficient than is portrayed here. A ChatGPT query averages out to about 3 watt-hours of electricity. That's what a laptop computer is going to burn in 2-3 minutes, a desktop PC in about thirty seconds, or about 15 minutes of a single high-efficiency lightbulb.
Also, most data center energy use is not AI-related. It's mostly running regular, old-fashioned websites and data backends.
thedarkcanuck
I'm hoping it will be a passing fad, and the data centres turned into housing or something
tEMPuSER632
It won't go away because the wealthy want to use it to track people's purchasing habits, and to have access to expertise without having to pay actual experts. Just another way to concentrate all the wealth at the top.
technicalfool
What do you think runs your daily dose of Netflix braincheese? Or imgur politiposting? Or Twitter Tantrums?
Do you know just how efficient modern processors are compared to only a few years ago?
AI is a drop in the bucket as far as energy usage goes. Water usage, well, nobody says the coolant has to be *fresh* water, at least not for the outer loop. And the inner loop water starts out so pure you wouldn't want to drink large amounts anyway.
TheMilliner
That is woefully misinformed. It's estimated that just AI alone amounts to HALF of the current growth for energy demands in places where large data centres reside, and AI power demands are set to DOUBLE in the next 5 years. Just now, in 2025, AI energy demands, not for the whole data centre just the draw for AI alone, accounts for 40% of a data centre's total power draw and that number is rising. And that's not even accounting for the bottles of fresh water it consumes just to write e-mails.
TheMilliner
Second, while SOME data centres have moved to seawater for their cooling demands, that's literally just not feasible in many places before even needing to point out that seawater has EXPONENTIALLY WORSE corrosion, degradation and fouling problems than fresh water. Desalination is ALSO not really viable as the energy demands for that currently outstrip profitability just for that process.
AI is the problem, not data centres, simply due to how HEAVILY resource intensive AI is for even basic tasks
J3lek
Housing? Bwahaha no, fuck them poors we gotta fill it with the next new tech fad. VR crypto intelligence Porn servers
AgainstMethod
The way we use it now is going to look silly and dated in twenty years and you could imagine it getting much more efficient, but the LLM models are crazy useful in certain areas, so it's definitely not going to just "go away".
TheMilliner
Yeah, AI isn't going anywhere because it IS actually good at what it's meant to actually be for, which is pretty much collating data and recognising patterns. That sole function is incalculably valuable to data brokers and the companies that use those brokerages (or just gather it themselves) to sell you stuff and advertise to you.
Crypto is the other place that's the problem for getting rid of it, since that space ADORES AI for no real reason other than "It's tech therefore it's better"
kikisdeliveryservice
AC has emissions, emissions cause global warming global warming, give you hotter heat waves, you use more AC.
Ohno.
Also this has been known for over 30 years, the whole time preventable. Not picking al gore or Bernie Saunders were major bad decisions.
AgainstMethod
While this is well-known problem, it's not like it could have been solved in 2005 by President Gore.AC is only zero-emissions on a grid without fossil fuels, which has only been a real option for about a decade now.
SomeDetroitGuy
Al Gore's politics and policies were almost indistinguishable from George W Bush's. He did a LOT of reputation cleanup after he left politics but when he was in office, he was VERY conservative.
AgainstMethod
Where he was on the political spectrum isn't the point. It's where he was on the issue of climate change. That said, he wouldn't have gotten a quarter of a million people killed in Iraq and Syria.
KrankyKrasnov
Hell nah he woulda been wayyy better than Dubya. No Iraq War, no great recession, no biggest tax cuts for the wealthy in US history (idk if the big ugly bill that just passed best that record though)
UncleMeaty
AC is just moving heat from one place to another.
Oveuh
Right? It’s a closed system under a vacuum. I don’t see how it’s emitting anything. Similar to a refrigerator. Am I wrong?
OdinYggd
The air conditioner I am sitting under right now gathers heat energy from my house and blows it outside. It consumes energy equivalent to roughly 1/3rd of the energy it moves in the process of doing so.
In a rural area, no big deal. Nature is massive enough to shrug it off. But suppose you have a city, and half the rooms in a high rise are doing that. More energy is rejected than nature can handle, contributing to the heat island.
Oveuh
Possibly I would agree with you. I think city’s are going to be hotter due to black top roads and parking lots that get really hot as opposed to farm land that’s a lil cooler.
I was just saying that in a good work A/C unit there should be no Freon gas emissions. If anything, you should use your A/C regularly so that it stays lubricated and the rubber seals don’t crack and THEN the Freon will leak into the atmosphere.
OdinYggd
A properly assembled system, the refrigerant system is gas-tight and will remain so for 10-20 years. If it doesn't the loss of gas will make the unit fail to operate or damage components by moisture infiltration. The trouble is what happens at end of life and minimizing the release of gases from failed units that have been replaced.
You can make a refrigeration system using Ammonia, indeed many large scale systems once existed with some still around today. But freon is safer for people.
AgainstMethod
You are wrong, yes. First, compressors aren't 100% efficient, so they do release additional heat into the environment, same as any electrical appliance. Second, the refrigerants are incredibly potent GHG's and do leak into the air over time. Most importantly, the electricity is made by burning fossil fuels, so everyone using AC does emit CO2.
Oveuh
Lame
ArcUlfr
Speak for yourself on that last point; the power I get is largely nuclear and solar. Not everyone gets their power from natural gas and coal.
SalvoCowboy
He may be referring to the energy required to run it, but you are correct. It's a closed system.
BrokenAnimal
This. Exactly this.
Maybe we could get some...regulations or something?
Nah... Not for billion dollar companies. That's just for us peasants...
ChronicStress
Haha the US is far past regulations.
KR1570F
someone should be sharing some mazel tov cocktails with AI data centers.
ArcUlfr
You mean Molotov?
TacoPoweredHelicopter
It's 5 tits.... It might be worth it.
LostCaterpillar
We do indeed need regulation but, and this is the part nobody wants to acknowledge, not just for billion dollar corporations. The middle class driving a couple ton truck blasting AC in the warming climate is not sustainable even if it runs off batteries instead of petroleum and we need regulation that reflects this reality.
ATastyCorpsesicle
The entire middle class combined has less of a carbon footprint than the largest corporations do individually.
LostCaterpillar
That's both true and misleading. It's true that, say, ExxonMobil has a staggeringly massive impact on global warming but it's misleading because they aren't just pulling oil out of the ground and burning it for funzies, they're pulling it out of the ground and selling it to you to burn.
For this reason any regulation that puts them out of business also puts your SUV out of commission. You can't unlink the companies driving climate change from the goods and services they provide.
ATastyCorpsesicle
You can link them to actively destroying any and all attempts to FIX that reliance on them, though.
The only reason electric cars "aren't viable" is because people with lots of money make sure they aren't.
LostCaterpillar
Electric cars are perfectly viable. What they're not is sustainable. Even if we switch all cars to electric the environmental cost of equipping every family on earth with one, much less two, multi-ton electric SUV's or trucks is just way too high.
So your option is either to take the same moral approach the billionaire take now of "I got mine, fuck everybody poorer than me" or to accept that you need to adopt to equitable solutions that everyone can share in, like pubic transit or (e)bikes.
BrokenAnimal
Get the corporations and billionaires first.
How much CO2 do you think Bezos wedding produced with all the guests flying their own private jet to Italy?
According to a 2024 Oxfam report, the average billionaire produces as much CO₂ in just 90 minutes as the average person does in their entire lifetime.
Souce: https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/billionaires-emit-more-carbon-pollution-90-minutes-average-person-does-lifetime
LostCaterpillar
Look, I'm more than happy to guillotine the rich but you need to examine this more closely.
Let's imagine a perfect regulation. It caps each individual at a sustainable carbon output for transportation each year and everyone gets an exactly equal amount.
Yes, every billionaire can only run their private jet for like 10 minutes a year but that same cap would mean you can only drive your car for about 50 hours a year. (based on equivalent jet vs car fuel use)
KR1570F
so make it 40 minutes of private jet time a year, still much fucking less than they use and everyone else gets 200 hours of drive time. Fuck. you spend this much time equivocating and worrying when bezzos buys his 40th mega yacht or do you only sabotage efforts to make things better for the world?
LostCaterpillar
I don't even own a car. I walk my talk, literally in this case. So, while I'm actually trying to address the problem what are you doing? Sitting online complaining about how it's unfair anyone ask you to make even the smallest sacrifice?
Also, the reason is because, keeping in mind this is very rough math, I chose a number that we could let everyone on earth have. We up it to 40 minutes/200 hours and now we have to tell 80% of the world "Sorry, you get nothing."
NotAPervert
“Oxfam found that, on average, 50 of the world’s richest billionaires took 184 flights in a single year, spending 425 hours in the air —producing as much carbon as the average person would in 300 years. In the same period, their yachts emitted as much carbon as the average person would in 860 years.”
Regulation has to start somewhere. We can start with 50 people.
NotAPervert
Example; force them to buy carbon offsets. Use this funding for other transportation research, like buses and trains, as well as research to make ocean-going cargo ships drastically more efficient, considering the 12 largest ships combined are the pollution equivalent of every single car on this planet combined.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
This kinda illustrates how terribly inefficient cars truly are.
yoozernaim
last car i owned was crx hf - got 80mpg in the early 80s, stopped making them in 91 or so hmmm weird huh wonder why we dont make 'em like that anymore
LoonyBoBdammitwhotookmyname
My view is that every AI datacenter - in fact, every datacenter full stop - should be obligated to provide their own energy and water, including treatment etc, using environmentally friendly sources. Can't do it? Too expensive? Guess your datacenter isn't justified, then. This is the kind of regulation the world needs.
AnonsAndMinions
Fucking 100 percent. There's no reason at this point for those dickwads to just put full solar on the roofs of what is basically a giant box of a building anyway to at least offset grid use. It's fucking stupid at this point.
BrokenAnimal
Exactly. And we should do so with most other industries as well. For instance, oil companies should pay the full price for any spills they are responsible for. So either spend the money to make transportation safe enough, or pay hundreds of millions of dollars for the cleanup.
macrolet
Meta decided it was a good idea to just install an enormous natural gas-powered electrical generator plant at their TN datacenter, without permits or concern for the people that live nearby. That's one way, I suppose.
RainierAlt
Meta or Twitter/X? I thought it was the latter that did that.
BrokenAnimal
And I expect there were absolutely no legal or economic consequences for them for doing that.
bridgebrain
5$ fine and a stern handshake
euphoricopportunity
Not with this administration. They'll just give them a high five, congratulations, and a tax break.
ScienceIsntAboutWhyItsAboutWhyNot
Well yeah. I sort of agree. But are we talking about EVERY datacenter? Including those hosting actual useful services to society? Like medical services, road systems, public transport, etc... And good luck powering any data center at all with your own energy. Maybe you can power some of it, but not 100%
BrokenAnimal
Non-commercial public service datacenters could be excepted.
ScienceIsntAboutWhyItsAboutWhyNot
If only it was that simple. Public services are in many cases running on privatly owned datacenters such as Azure, AWS and Google, and other less known privatly owned providers (I work for one of them where I live).
So your proposal would mean that the government would have to build huge new datacenters, power them, maintain them and operate them. I don't think that will have a positive impact on the power consumption or the environment.
BrokenAnimal
The power consumption is the same if they are run by the government or a corporation, so if they are needed they should be in public hands imo.
TheSinhound
I'm all for regulation and efficiency, but the potable water use globally of every datacenter on earth is a fraction so small as to be statistically insignificant. 500 billion gallons SEEMS like a big number until you compare it to the QUADRILLIONS used in other uses. The power uses are a larger concern, but largely solved by investment into renewables and nuclear. It's not ACTUALLY that large of a detriment to the environment by comparison (if at all).
Leaps
All the more reason for them to do it then.
TheSinhound
I mean, they ARE. https://mit-genai.pubpub.org/pub/8ulgrckc/release/2
"6% growth in energy consumption despite 6x increase in datacenter capacity, primarily due to massive increases in energy efficiency gains."
LoonyBoBdammitwhotookmyname
On a global scale, it might not be huge. But on a local scale, datacenters can directly impact the availability of water to regular users - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce85wx9jjndo - whilst there are growing concerns over droughts at the same time.
TheSinhound
So, going by the report that they specifically list as their source... I'm not really seeing the problem? Again, I'm 100% for regulation on the matter of environmental standards for Datacenters. We should be continuing to develop new technologies and increasing efficiency of current technologies to minimize the impact as much as possible. Beyond that, even if we shut every datacenter in the world down (and the internet with them), the environmental impacts wouldn't move the climate needle.
LittleAzie
No, we need to do things like have them use more efficient cooling systems than just hooking them to water utilities. Mandate things like solar panels on the roofs and properties. Sure, not going to 100% solve the problem, but reduces it. But now, cheapest possible ways always...
ChopOnBrother2021
Yeah. But…
5 tits
OmniscientZiltoid
Two is the optimal amount
ChopOnBrother2021
Not if you have large litters
StillNotYouTube
It's the reason we have two hands.
aShogunNamedMarcus
"What about a girl with 5 asses, asking for a friend"
nurotoxin10000
JustinArnold
Tbh, doesn't take too much pc to get a basic image gen model running locally, so you can have whatever you can fish up
LoopStricken
nojustsayitdont
Tits. it clearly said 5 tits.
BatmanAndCradleRobin
TheMightyMollusk
We've got a president who's asshole enough for five, does that count?
DriverIRQnotlessOrEqual
So about that image
nosimpleway
I've been getting emails from the power company for the past month to get ready for the Energy Conservation Day today. I've had the AC running all day and am quite comfortable. Fuck 'em.
YouJustCommittedOneOrMoreFallacies
Fuck these nerds I've got solar panels
spiceass9000
I could seriously not give a single fuck about a power companies demands.
Fanner50
Why not go after the bitcoin miners?
galll11
Fuck them, I'm paying for that shyt to be on. Fuck them
n3rdsquared
I tend to find myself trying to meet in the middle when in reality I shouldn't Evergy is a monopoly for electricity in Kansas City, and its annoying, however I theorized that if I could find an apartment facing north, first floor all non north face walls be connected to other apartment rooms because no matter where the sun is during the day it wont be blasting its heat on my apartment, and have comfortable temperature with minimal AC, and so far after sealing the doors its seems to be true.
Jelhammer
But but but you can save $6
anonymous
It's more like $100+, especially if you're running your A/C cooler during the night and hotter during the day; basically using your house as a battery to store residual coolness. (There's a Technology Connection video on this).
Esp. if you are on a power plan that costs more during certain hours. I normally set the thermostat to 76°, but 3 hours before the price goes up I program it to drop to 73°, then up to 79° during those hours. A/C doesn't run when it's pricier & house stays cool.
anonymous
But you can legit save $100+ on your power bill by running your A/C cooler during the night and hotter during the day, basically using your house as a battery to store residual coolness. (There's a Technology Connection video on this).
Esp. if you are on a power plan that costs more during certain hours. I normally set the thermostat to 76°, but 3 hours before the price goes up I program it to drop to 73°, then up to 79° during those hours. A/C doesn't run when it's pricier & house stays cool.
B3N15
The difference is that you are an individual trying to save money and this is referencing a power company begging individuals to use less power while the biggest consumers are continuing to use power unabated
Chaoctopus
I live in AZ. It was 116° the other day. I'm not touching my AC.
anonymous
But you can legit save money on your power bill by running your A/C cooler during the night and hotter during the day, basically using your house as a battery to store residual coolness. (There's a Technology Connection video on this).
Esp. if you are on a power plan with SRP/APS that costs more during a 3 hour window. I normally set the thermostat to 76°, but 3 hours before peak period I programmed it to drop to 73°, then up to 79° during peak. A/C doesn't run during peak & house stays cool.
TheBigBadBonerBiter
For real, houses cost too much to not be comfortable in.
8647taco
Should see the damage done to inside modern homes with air conditioner off
ImSynnical
Indeed stuff expands and contracts depending on the temperatures, if it’s too hot or cold you may suddenly find doors are sticking and hard to open/close drywall joints can open, wood work stuff can open. Just not advisable to not climate control your home
OriginalAndWitty
Ultimate F-you to the power company? Get solar panels and/or other forms of personal renewable power generation and never pay them a dime again.
Trimule
Uh......... I guess you didn't see the "home solar" provisions of the Orange Grift Bill. End of support/rebates for home solar and taxes on the electricity created by them.
RooGryphon
and then get socked with this new tax that makes it unfeasible to have them
ButtPlunger69
We have solar and we still have to pay the electric company about 15 bucks a month. Better than the several hundred before tho and if there is an outtage we still have power
anonymous
That's cause you went with a grid setup. You need to buy some battery banks and then you won't have to rely on the power company anymore.
PutItInNeutral
We have solar and crank that AC to whatever we want. We only pay around $35 a month during the summer, and half of that is the monthly connection fee.
Wrest216
make solar powered air conditioners. You only use em when the suns beating down on ya. win, win!
0xBADA55
Solar is the way to go, and you can start small
Kittenman15
White dwarf stars, work up through the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram to a red giant.
KrankyKrasnov
Ain't it something like $40,000 to install in your home?
squirrelgirl86
The one guy I know who installed solar paid $30,000.
Ginoawesomesauce
Ours was put on a 30 year payment plan, which includes all upkeep. Its more like we rent them from SunRun. We use as much electricity as we want, our bill is half what it was, and is constant. No more unexpected giant bills! Plus, we live in California with the monopoly PG&E that has risen rates 10% a year every year for the last five, and uses that money to start 90% of our forest fires, and we don't pay them anymore thank God
TsubakiTragic
I'm one guy, with a cat and swore to myself I will never be cold again when I moved into my little home in 2018. First thing I did was put a little 3.5kw PV on my roof: cost AU$3,500. PV systems encourage you to change your work ethic. You don't cook a roast dinner, fire up the dishwasher, put the clothes washing on and chill an Aussie summer day down to 20C all at the same time.
eggmuffin
It depends on how extensive a setup you want. Most people just want to benefit from having the space for some panels on the roof in order to offset some of the base load during the summer.
But of you wanted to, you could go the whole hog, including a bank of capacitors or maybe a flywheel generator, or hell, both. That'd likely cost more than the house, though.
0xBADA55
No .. depends on what you want, most expensive will be initial install, think about 2k to 3k, after that first you can just keep adding every now and then
ChloeRed
I'd hope not. My 17 panel array here in the UK was £8,000, and that was high due to some modification to the house.
Necrothean
Average Fortune 500 boardroom: 61 degrees, smells of lavender from underpaid immigrant overnight cleaning company, cost 21 million dollars to renovate every three years.
Average Fortune 500 supported article or video: Ted Bich, leading industry expert, says air conditioning is horrible, immigrants are useless, and people should stop complaining and just get a low interest loan if they can't live on $2 an hour.
bannedbutstillon
There is zero possibility I would turn my AC off for anyone.
ClownishAntics
Presenting the titty statue with consecutive asses
DreamPhreak
chris16447
An even amount makes more sense. Stop with this odd number nonsense.
LiterallyAWizard
Biblically Accurate Titty Monster
ClownishAntics
BeaverOnFire
DeadyBearr
We got tits coming out of our ears!
The701
"After people kept bothering me to ask why my statue had three boobs, I decided I'd add another one for each new person who asked."
PicassoCT
work hard, not smart, and he didn't even use his hands to chisel
ClownishAntics
Sometimes a task is its own reward
Unholytrashpanda
Unpopular opinion - we are still responsible for doing the best we can to help with the environmental crisis. We may not be able to make the biggest difference, it doesn't absolve organizations for doing their share, but this attitude drives me mad. "They aren't doing it, so why should I?" just gives us license to pretend that our decisions don't matter - and y'all they do. It's a drop in the bucket but it's still in the bucket.
AgainstMethod
The problem with memes like this is that it imagines that "rich people stuff" is the main source of GHG emissions, when in fact "normal people stuff" is a much bigger contributor. *But* the problem with asking individuals to "do the best they can" is that they generally can't do much at all. People literally can't stop using fossil fuels unless they're given better alternatives.
2074red2074
It's more like the bucket can deal with one liter of water per second no problem, and some assholes are pouring in a liter per second each. It's gonna overflow whether I contribute one drop per second or two, and if those assholes stopped with their liters, my two drops or even four drops wouldn't be an issue.
AgainstMethod
The problem with that metaphor is that the vast majority of the water is coming one drop at a time. The CO2 footprint of ordinary people accounts for most global GHG emissions. The idea that it's all being done by the mega-rich is just ragebait lies peddled on social media to get you mad.
2074red2074
If it weren't for rich fucks lobbying to make sure all of the electricity I use comes from fossil fuels, my footprint would be basically zero. The residential and commercial sectors together only account for 13% of all GHG, and transportation (personal and commercial) an additional 28%, excluding electricity. No, turning off your AC, or really making ANY change to your personal habits, is not an effective solution to the problem.
MarxAvenger
Noooo, if other people are throwing batteries into the ocean, I get to throw in one, as a treat
ralph2sam
How many gigawatts per tit?
okyouwin
1.2 jigglewatts.
EverNotRelevant
Jigglewatts.
Cornflakes91
1 gainawatt per tit
J3lek
Usually it's 1 gainawatt per 2 tits.
HypnoCT
1.21
robpaschal
Heavy.
PlacentaEaters
deafchef52
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1N2c1NTVhZGx2ZzAwdGdiMDZkMTR0d3VhcDYxdGR0bTYzeDN4N3VtMSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/UWEP6CXjvmZxfUBUeu/200w.webp
friendsofsandwiches
"One point twenty one giga tits!
GREAT SPLOT!"
mixiekins
for our international friends, one giga tit converts to about 1 honka donka badonker
DrSharkbite
friendsofsandwiches
did the dog just say 'shit'?
KidShenck
Is that what the GPT stands for?
J3lek
Yes. Gigawatts per tit
QueefSlurper6372
5 tits you say?
ViolentlyJaded
Imagine the motor boat!
snixsys
DanielAsparagus
I see AC propaganda every day. “More and more people are ditching ac. Experts say it creates a stagnant zone for your body. Dick Bootlicker of UCSF says, ‘does your body even get stronger if it’s always comfortable?’” I don’t know dick, but I swear to god I read that yesterday and I know a corporate dick sucker when I hear one.
ArcliteGhost
They can have my AC when they pry it from my cold, dead, yet comfortable, fingers.
xj4low
Some of those AI hubs have turbine generators reved up and blowing out noise and exhaust for everyone in the neighborhood. Even better since they are using more turbines then they are permitted and licensed for and no one is going after them.
LordAsshurt
As an hvac tech, I agree. Run it fucking low.
Dreypen
Wetbulb temp issues are only becoming more common. And that's something we need ac to survive
PicassoCT
https://news.climate.columbia.edu/wp-content/data-viz/heat-humidity-map/embed.html
Isleros
Now I'm going to laugh at One Punch Man being "AC propaganda" 🤣
BagFullOfMommy
They can eat the fattest part of my ass if they think they can take AC from me. I live in Florida, it's bad enough having to play hopscotch through life dodging elderly drivers, meth addicted murder hobos, face eating psychopaths, and fucking giant water loving literal dinosaurs that time itself was to scared to murder, on top of all of that my state is conveniently located half a dicks length from the sun. The heat literally kills off the sick and weak here every year ... and that's with AC.
ArchangelZeriel
Also, between systems of comparable age, A/C is something like three to four times as efficient as heating.
The only reason A/C gets a bad rap is that most homes (as far as I'm aware) are not heated with electricity, so heating doesn't put the same stress on the power grid and therefore the powers that be don't give as much of a shit.
Goatfer
Electric heating is actually very efficient. As long as the resistance isn't high enough to produce light, very little energy is wasted. AC also hasn't had much improvement in the last few decades. Not really any breakthroughs in how the systems function.
Amomani
Efficiency doesn't equal cheap. The cost of natural gas vs electricity varies a lot depending on location and time.
Goatfer
Sure but that can be said about any commodity.
bridgebrain
AC also gets a bad rap because it's recursive. You blow all the hot air out of your house. The air outside your house is now slightly hotter. Not a problem until it scales, but when you have 5000 surburban houses all pumping their heat into each other, the outside is unbearably hot and all the ACs together are working twice as hard.
Ketheres
Doesn't help that suburban/urban environments absorb heat from the sun really fucking well. Having more trees instead of HOA certified turf everywhere would go a long way...
Noevilgifs
Funnily enough if you use a heat pump you could technically reverse it and heat up the inside while cooling outside and get the same amount of efficency as an ac does
Instead of the resistive heating we usually use
ArchangelZeriel
Newer heat pumps are getting better and more efficient at hearing in colder weather, too.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Also there's the fact that people don't typically see a big spike in their electrical bill over the winter for heat (though they may see one for lighting) but they do see ones for summer AC usage, so there's the perception that it's power hungry. But your home heating bill just comes from the gas or fuel oil company instead.
toolzgalore2
But also, during the winter the sun helps a lot to heat your house, whereas it is actively working against you in the summer
pixelsnader
The solution: at-home gas turbine generators to run AC
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Don't laugh too hard, somebody's probably done that shit.
pixelsnader
I think if you're in a place with expensive electricity you'd about break even. And in winter, you'd probably even be cheaper a bit (heatpump vs AC) because you can use the heat from the generator to heat the building.
SergeyPrkl
There is also that warm climate houses tends to have really bad insulation. SO the coolness escapes quickly. Well, Even Minnesotan houses have pisspoor insulation compared to the Nordics. Even when the climate can be worse.
dohcohv
Yeah, my house is well insulated so even blasting the a/c my power bill is a third of what I was paying at the house I rented before.
Ivain
Absolutely. I live in Germany, where building codes nowadays are, well, insane compared to most other countries. The new home I live in 1. Has geothermal-based heating and 2. Is extremely well-insulated.
The only times I had to turn my thermostat on at all last winter was after I'd left the windows tilted open for hours at a time to combat humidity issues. This summer, during the times it was 35C+, interior temperature NEVER rose above 24C despite my lack of any form of AC.
SergeyPrkl
Yeah Geotherm is most popular here in Nordics too. It is good, because you can cool your house with it too. New houses have some 450mm insulation, in the roof 600mm.
Ivain
I dont think the 'cool your house' is an option for mine yet, sadly. Maybe they dont have the tech, maybe nobody realized when building.
agonarch
That's government regulation, you're simply not allowed to sell a house with lethally shitty insulation in the nordics, so surprise surprise developers suddenly care.
SergeyPrkl
Exactly. I have been working in building business (single family homes) ALl of my life (35y career) in the Nordics, But have had the privilige to Build in Florida, and Minnesota. Also Russia and Central Asia and India. US is only place where actively cooled houses are non insulated. ALso, the 300 year old houses in Southern europe. I had a chance to buid a home for my cousin in Orlando, Florida. All the neighboring houses was built without any insulation. But this one was built with 6 inches 1/2
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SergeyPrkl
of insulation. and propper humidity barrier what is typical timber frame house stuff here in the Nordics. And the electricity bill in the summer is some 4 times lower than neighbors. But also in winter, the house is heated with an Nordic model Air heat pump with 6:1 efficiency, the heating bill is wayy less than what neighbors antique Propane fired floorheating has. It has electric system. But usually the weather is not that cold. It just supplement. Also toilet and shower is always heated.
forreference
Like anyone working at UCSF needs AC.
Iliekbirbs
Yeah I am not going to sweat my ass off from June-Early Sept. I live on the 2nd floor apt and it gets hot (like melting hot)
aliengold590127001
I bet as long as you work out and stay reasonably active you’ll be fine
TanithRosenbaum
Yea no, that's BS. The death rate in older and sick people is noticeably higher during heat waves without AC. ACs do save lives.
aliengold590127001
As long as grandma don’t turn the oven up to 500 thinking it’s the AC
PicassoCT
It tastes like wieners if you gag on it
ponkoponko
Human body’s ageing ‘clock’ ticks faster after heat stress
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-04007-8
sundaymondayhippyday
More people die in heat related weather then any other!
heyguysimisaac
Not as long as they are drinking water …. Oh wait there are dick suckers that don’t believe that’s a human right either. Looking at you nestle.
lostlittletimeonthis
So what's the deal with saunas?
PicassoCT
artificial fever response?
chronologicalvoid
Probably not good for you if you spend an entire day in one
EvPointMaster
so you spoil faster, just as any meat
SinisterDuff
At this point, that may be a point for anti ac. Lol.
Ziabatsu
Oh I'm just going to out train The Sun. In a contest of endurance I'm going up against the many millions of year old stellar body that has resisted its dual urges to explode and implode
HahaImInDanger
putting the sun's age in "millions" is akin to calling $50 "many pennies". While not technically untrue, it doesn't really get the real idea across.
albaboss
Dude I swear to god I’m not a bot or a scam but I fucking love not having ac. @Albaboss, wtf are you saying??? I live in Albuquerque where it’s super hot and dry. We have a swamp cooler so it just adds humidity to the air. It keeps our house cool, humid, and it’s never that weird freezing feeling that ac gives you. Plus it’s super cheap in comparison. I know, I am the exception! Just a random plug for swamp coolers
VictusVonGuyver
Swamp coolers do not work in every region. That's why AC exists.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Swamp cooler is AC, dude.
albaboss
Nope! I mean technically swamp coolers “condition the air” but they don’t have compressors nor refrigerants like Freon. https://preferredclimatesolutions.com/difference-between-air-conditioners-and-evaporative-coolers/
LetumEternum
This is called a straw man.
albaboss
Straw man is when you change an argument and say “see this is why you’re wrong!” I changed the wording to say they’re right. But no, overall they’re still wrong
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Swamp coolers aren't air refrigerants, but they are AC, yes.
Weirdo.
newsguycraigevans
Agreed,and thank you for pointing this out because I was about to.
barontaint
Swamp cooler doesn't work too well where I live where the dew point is in the 80's for much of July and August. I'll gladly pay to not have my balls stuck to my knees when I'm trying to relax on my couch.
albaboss
Exactly. I knew I’d get DVed to hell but if you live in a VERY DRY place, swamp coolers are a great alternative
ThM1ck
Iived at fucking Fort Irwin, CA and the swamp coolers put a sheen of moisture on everything in the house and had mold growing like fucking crazy. Swamp coolers suck ass.
albaboss
Yeah it’s like 10% humidity here in the summer so they work great. It’s gotta be SUPER dry
AndyTheAbsurd
I'd love to use a swamp cooler. However, swamp coolers do not work when you live in a swamp (Florida) like me. So instead I have AC and $300 electric bills during the summer.
QotU
As someone with extreme cold intolerance and a mostly hate relationship with blasting cold air, I feel you. And you are entitled to do what makes you comfortable. The downvotes are silly. People gatekeeping how others cool their home. Smh.
dontrike
So you have something that only works in very specific places with no humidity? Neat
Crazywelderguy
FelonyFerret
Swamp Coolers don't work in areas with high humidity. I had them in the Mojave desert.they work perfectly there. They don't work where I live now because the humidity in the area is too high. I also don't have AC, it's currently 92 with 45% humidity as of writing.
FelonyFerret
For context, it's also 7pm as of writing...
albaboss
That’s why I said I “live in Albuquerque where it’s super dry and it works great” and I also said “I’m the exception”
FelonyFerret
Okay, but if you know they don't work everywhere... Then maybe don't say anything? You literally accomplished nothing but looking like a nonce.
ebonyfaery
Nonce means pedophile. Please don't misuse it.
Furyustyles
I'm not sure talking about a swap cooler qualifies his as a child molester.
BagFullOfMommy
Congrats, you live in an area where there is dry heat that allows your bodies natural cooling abilities to actually work. Try moving to Florida where the air is so thick with moisture that it feels like you're breathing warm soup. Every time you step outside it feels like being wrapped in a still damp quilt fresh from the dryer, while being strangled by someone with baby hands.
ArcUlfr
Exactly. Having lived in both Phoenix and North Carolina, in the former you're relatively okay as long as you stay hydrated and in the shade, while in the latter there is literally nothing you can do to avoid heat exhaustion on a particularly hot day besides AC or getting into water.
ThatsJustWhatWeCallPillowTalkBaby
Dude, it is pretty heckin humid where I live in the summer (think rain starting out of a cloudless sky). Swamp coolers don't do a thing out here, we would die without AC.
albaboss
Oh I know. I grew up in Louisiana. Just a random plug if you live in a SUPER DRY place, swamp coolers are the shit
ThatsJustWhatWeCallPillowTalkBaby
Louisiana humidity aint no joke.