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[Edit. It's not a normal router but a cable modem. Not possible to be replaced with pfsense etc. Smart plug would work but is not that fun. This is a geek project to test if fingerboard can do so.ething useful. The RasPi for HA was already existing]
enkrypt3d
I thought he was going to play the Dino jump game in chrome...
WeaponizedJerk
Or just spend the money to get a router that isn't awful?
electromaniac89
Raspberry pi can actually make a really nice router, its hardware is superior to the cheap stuff they put in most of them. OpenWRT is the software you'd use, makes for a really cool project! Here's a link to a walkthrough: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/howto-openwrt-on-the-raspberry-pi-4/117491
Tubbygold
I fucking love this... now make it recycle the router when latency drops below 800ms
Hammerwell
Just buy a router that doesn't crash so much. FRITZ!Box FTW.
Jinxies
Just preform percussive maintenance on the router.
lljkstonefish
He did. It was just very precisely aimed at the button.
lljkstonefish
On the other hand hitting it with something a little spicier, like a captive boltgun, could work well.
FrnxtGhrtSonyGurm
If this is a dsl based service being supplied, it could easily be the carrier losing sync across the connection which would cause the drop. Checking filter would also benefit. Router isn't always the issue
ATLandNerdy
You should use more than 1 DNS server for your up/down probes. 8.8.8.8 might go down.">ut i">. but it's not likely 4.2.2.2 and 8.8.8.8 go down. Might also get your ISP's DNS servers in there, and the GW IP of your head end.
ButteryBiscuitBass
Damn, this sort of shit always impresses me.
atillatari
I've set up my router to restart every night, it has changed everything
atillatari
everything = all my problems with the router... not everything in general :P
IAmAVacuumForDoritos
Maybe it did reset everything. Our current quantum reality could be entirely your fault and no one would know.
dorenavant
+1 for Manu Chao!
RedCamaro
Sigh. Have you tried turning it off and on again?
ForceAwakenWasLame
Used to do that until got a mesh system. Never have to onoff again
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
Why yes he has. He has automated doing so, in fact.
patotheduck
The onner offer crashed..
warpfactor1
Routers have maintenance settings to auto reboot for this exact reason -- and they've had this for over a decade
LaitankoPussiinVaiVedattekoTassaKateen
Torille!
apn201
Harmi että Manta puuttuu :(
CompilerBreak
Pretty clever, but biggest improvement I've seen is from just adding a fan, like a usb laptop cooler. I have had the same router for 3+ years, have never had to reboot it, and used to burn them out consistently every 9-12 months.
Calicoastin818
You can restart it on schedule once a week however this is helpful when the router is out of reach
apn201
Going in details makes it les a s fun, but actually the device is a cable modem for gig connection over cable TV. No firmware available. No many alternatives for the hardware. No help from operator. Something happens on operator side and it loses the connection usually in the early morning hours. Often it fixes itself, but that takes time. Power cycling the device helps. Still, I made this jerryrigged solution just for fun, but it actually works.
n0gal
Sounds like a DOCSYS modem. Check the Signal Noise Ratio (SNR) being measured by the device, find the nearest hop from your ISP and call them, have them check the SNR of that hop. I've been in multiple places where simply getting someone on the phone at the ISP who knows how to check the SNR will immediately trigger a service call (to the hop, not your house) and it's usually fixed within a day for good. Problem is the first line phone ops can't check it.
n0gal
Please note that there are different tolerances of SNR, and it's also possible the noise is coming from inside your house, at which point it will require running some new cable. Don't let them install a "noise reduction device" those are bullshit and don't address the root of the problem (if you have a noise problem)
an0therthr0waway
Glorious hack, @op. This comment in the original caption might have deflected some of the peanut gallery's 'you should have instead' chatter
Dragelet
Or just get a prebuilt device to do all that inclusively. Here is one, but there are many out there. https://a.co/d/aDORvMf
Leonon
Instruction unclear, pi now turns itself off.
mymustachecallstheshots
Dude, they make controllable outlets for almost all home automation platforms. There is an easier way.
apn201
I know and I have them, but this is more geeky.
Evi1Gav
Or you run an open sense router and have two independent internet connections and don't worry about such things.
ATLandNerdy
This is cheaper and easy to script. https://www.amazon.com/Kasa-Smart-Required-Certified-EP10/dp/B091699Z3W
apn201
But it's boring.
ATLandNerdy
The WiFi plug is also probably more reliable. How long that glue going to hold on?
apn201
It's actually double sided tape which was shipped with the fingerbot plus one extra sheet. Without compatible Zigbee hub I can not fine tune the servo movement, but it feels quite optimal, and it does not need to work often, so I guess it will hold just fine.
76000BatteryLlamas
PF Sense bro
76000BatteryLlamas
We had a server that crashed intermittently and had to be manually reset, so I set it up facing another server, glued a golf tee to the ->
76000BatteryLlamas
2nd servers CD drive, and made a script to eject the drive when server #1 stopped responding. CD tray comes out, golf tee hits the reset ->
76000BatteryLlamas
button on #1, jams, CD tray goes back in, server reboots
ICorrectGrammarIncorrectlyForAmusement
Very nice, how long did you have to spend positioning the server heights to get that lined up correctly?
76000BatteryLlamas
Not long at all - they were old Dell PowerEdge towers and one of the bays was right in line with the reset switch
ClusterConsultant
Did you not have idrac or something?
elBirdnose
For the time and effort spent to "fix" the situation you could have done the same with new hardware. Probably would have been cheaper too.
apn201
First of all this is more fun. Secondly it didn't coat anything. I already have the HA controlling other things. Third I cannot change the hardware - ot os a cable modem from operator.
elBirdnose
It's like making a rude Goldberg machine to do the same thing. More fun? Sure. But practical or long lasting? No.
apn201
Rube Goldberg machine exactly was the point here. Should not be difficult to see from the video, that this was not very serious project.
paintingagency
Actual dad fix is to scream "Go reset the router you little shits! You already knew that!"
itsallaboutthecones
..... Dad?
amp99
This device just made 99% of IT techs redundant.
SJohnson23
It really fucking didn’t. I know you’re just making a light hearted comment but seriously, it is a fix as much as that tyre filling stuff is a fix for punctures.
amp99
Glad you correctly interpreted it as a joke.
SheepySleepySmuggler
It's called tech debt - rather than fixing the root cause (either a terrible router or a router needing a firmware update to fix bugs/standards compliance), you create a workaround which in turn increases the systems you need to support. Rather than making IT techs redundant, it does the opposite.
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
amp99
I never expected someone to reply seriously, but I actually find fault with at least part of your comment. Specifically when you said "Rather than making IT techs redundant, it does the opposite."; if we examine this, then if end users were to employ this method (simply power cycling devices themselves, instead of seeking a fix from support/the vendor) en masse, then it actually would decrease the demand on those techs, likely causing some redundancies. Of course, a power cycle isn't... 1/x
amp99
a fix for the root cause, but it's "good enough" for some users and some issues. BTW, apparently it wasn't clear enough, but I don't really think all 99% of IT techs do is simply power cycle devices for the entirety of their careers; it was an attempt at a joke. 2/2
AndroidSoul
I think they're referring to the fact that now you have a router that malfunctions and a secondary system to maintain and troubleshoot on top of that. Because when the power cycler goes wrong, the user isn't going to be the one fixing it
amp99
If the tool "goes wrong" then the user(s) just has to search for tutorials (of which there are plenty on YouTube/Home Assistant forums etc). Yes, it's actually a real product, and people do use it as shown in the video.
SheepySleepySmuggler
It was intended as a joke response as well - to address your comments, resources have been spent on a "fix" that addresses one issue but you still get downtime. You also have the opportunity cost of bugs/security fixes if the issue is firmware (unlikely given the technical expertise shown in the fix) or additional performance/features/service life. from replacing the router. I admire the technical cleverness of the "fix" but despair for those stuck with it.
relsky
Trust me....... it doesn't. People would still manage to screw this up regularly.
Saxytimes
I would need to hire someone just to explain almost every word in this. "Buy a Zinglebot and do a dongle test then click the XTX". Like what?
realizedagain
What's the song? I like the vibe. It seems like it switches from Spanish to French?
zafner
Thanks for asking; so glad you got the right answer immediately. Hope you up vote that guy
SooSalmighty
Manu Chao - Me Gustas Tu
realizedagain
Thanks, friend.
zafner
Hey thank you so much, anonymous internet person. Normally I hate when people have unrelated music but this really works for me and I think I'm going to create a playlist right now. Appreciated
cjandstuff
I recognized it thanks to Duolingo's Spotify list. Catchy tune. https://open.spotify.com/track/4tFp1lNlkHiJjtUuL6h3K9?si=3ceafeb62f174aa2
AdelineThatsMeYo
Duolingo had a spotify channel?!? Wtf
cjandstuff
Yup. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0QReNKddCNAoLBgVKr9CHL?si=af6a9c1d3bd74a6c
LeftRightThere
Consumer grade routers crash from overuse or interference. It would be easier to program a reboot command from the pi to the router.
ME2BNS12
Or you could just go and buy a web relay. They make ones that will pulse the relay when internet is lost after a certain amount of time. We use them in all our cellular modem stuff.
dryrunner
But way less fun.
LeftRightThere
I often build things simply because I can lol
76000BatteryLlamas
It usually from memory leaks / routing table filling up. I just put mine on a old lamp timer and it shuts off from 2-3am every morning
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Mine does that itself and it drives me crazy because my sleep schedule's fucked up so I'm frequently awake when it happens.
tesseract4d2
Remember when the original ipads didn't release their ip leases on routers so every time they went to sleep, they got a new local IP when they woke up, and it cashed everyone's routers? That was funny.
ArnoldRimmerWhatAGuy
"Routing table filling up?" There would be like one entry in the routing table. Static route to send everything to default gateway, next hop out to WAN side of things.
76000BatteryLlamas
Well routing table / ARP table / DNS cache etc etc ya know
BeverlyHillsBillie
Or update the firmware or replace the router.
MisterLemons
Seriously. Get a good damn router.
alaest0r
Okay so once there was a server that would hang and had to be physically powercycled and the cheapest, fastest, and reasonably reliable solution was a computer set up by it that pinged it and when it stopped getting a reply for some time it would eject a CD tray with a stick to press the button. This was mission critical infrastructure for a tens-of-millions dollar company.
LerryV2
Whats the fun in that
Muffyns
How do you replace it
EchoGecko
Adding a fan + CPU heat-sink may also help.
htapoicoS
Nah, that's too convenient
apn201
Dadfixing is not about practicality. If update or replace is not possible, even a smart plug wouldb be better, than a mechanical fingerbot, but it would not be as fun.
LateNightBunnyParty
+1 for "but it would not be as fun." My husband will badger me, "just throw it out! We can afford a new ___." Well yeah, we can, but that's not the point. I *want* to try to fix it myself first. I get enjoyment and a sense of satisfaction out of it.
jankeydadondc
My dad used to pull every broken thing in the house apart so he could fix them. They would then sit on a table or desk for weeks in pieces. Then get thrown away cuz he didn't even remember the path he took pulling them apart. I suspect he had some form of adhd. Wish getting diagnosed was more prevalent in his generation. I think that would have helped him alot
dorklordsickus
Wouldn't a smart plug not work if the router is down?
apn201
Zigbee one would work
AbsolutelyDramaticNutjob
Caseta by Lutron can run on your network, but I believe they will still communicate over your home network even when the internet connection is down. Besides that, each device can be assigned to a physical Pico remote that gives you manual control.
ThisIsYourLifeNow
I learned that shit the hard way. Every easy to use smart plug required a stupid internet connection. If you want local only smart home devices, get ready to learn coding and have a freakin hard time to configure every fucking of the 4898721 steps. There is no middle ground!
Doge12312
Home assistant is pretty easy to set up on a Raspberry, and they even sell it bundled with hardware and a zigbee bridge as Home Assistant Yellow. With this you can use pretty much every zigbee smart home devices. No need for coding, everything can be done via web interface.
ThisIsYourLifeNow
Tried it once, gave up after home assistant didnt want to install
SoIncrediblyBored
Zigbee and home kit protocol doesn't require outside connection. All internal. How it should be.
dorklordsickus
Cool didn't know that! Thank you, I'll give them a look.
MADchemEE
Hooyeah. Despise that "you must have an internet connection to use this" bullshit. ZigBee & z-wave, ftw.
ztygs
Yeah plus the fact that if you can connect to it over the internet, then others can too.
apn201
Nah. It's not as fun.
ReconditeEidolon
This is KINDA useful in VERY niche situations (snow birds with frequent power outages at home). But... https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/unifi-smart-power for $19 USD this does EXACTLY the same thing. If it loses wifi connection it turns your modem/router off and on again till it gets connected again.
cosonfused
not possible if it's an ISP issued modem/router
adiving
In some countries* I replaced mine no problem.
AyrA
or if it's DOCSIS, because then you need the encryption keys.
obijan
Especially in that case you should replace it with your own and save the hassle and subscription fee!
cosonfused
again. not always possible.
lljkstonefish
Emigrate to somewhere with consumer protection laws.
obijan
What's the physical carrier? Coax and ADSL modems are easily replaced. Fiber are a bit more expensive, but not a big deal.
cosonfused
It's a coax modem and my isp does not allow the use of your own modem. none of the others allow it either.