I mean it's impressive but it's also been shown here like 30 times. I expect this to be posted another 4 more times since u posted it. So thanks for that I guess
Whenever someone says simone biles is the best gymnast of all time. I don't disagree, but I always say, "you really should checkout Olga or Nadia videos."
... and more that 40 years later my still body tenses when I see her on that top bar knowing what she's about to do. Watching it in 1972 left me speechless.
Some people have no editing insight. Like when you pause a video and there's the pause/play button right in the middle of the detail I'm looking for. Or the crap pause on YT with a suggestive banner at the bottom (Apple TV). Covers the in-laid text of the presenter (like the chemistry or the history or the supplemental info).
Youtube is the worst, and then Instagram and their little nudge to move to the next video before you finish what you are watching. It really messes with our Psychology. We are being trained to move on to the next thing before we finish enjoying what we were focusing on. Oh, but back to editing, I think people do not really care about the actual video, they just want your attention.
1. I'd be dead if I attempted any of that. 2. The way she slams her pelvis into that bar scares me... greatly. I don't think any man would be able to generate that kind of force....
No, it's the part where she slams her belly into the lower bar. Hit in the wrong part or with too much force and that's permanent damage to vital organs.
I thought it was the part where she slams her torso into the shorter bar and flips around, because it can cause internal injury? That's what I previously understood about it
As a past gymnast, it actually looks safer than the other tricks cause falling would most likely land on hands and knees rather than neck. She would also fall further from the bars so she doesn’t get whacked on the way down. The other tricks are getting hit hard by the bars in the hip area. The sport is going to have dangers no matter how many moves get banned, they need to stop baby proofing sports and rather focus on banning tricks that repeated would cause internal injuries.
When you say internal injuries, do you mean organs? I've wondered how common intestinal damage or liver hits are, I imagine the latter is phenomenally painful from a bar
It can be anything internal, scarring building up, organ damage, veins, repeated crushing of tendon/ligaments, etc. the dismount I can see reason to be banned, her neck could be broken flying towards the bar like that.
Pretty sure, but I don’t watch or care about the Olympics so I’m not up to date on what’s allowed or banned. I like watching the videos of backyard athletes who are too amazing for the Olympics so they wouldn’t make it being banned for amazing tricks and innovative skills. The ice skaters who go to frozen lakes are far more interesting than the ones who are not allowed to show their full set of skills.
Furthermore, it wasn't banned when she performed it. So she didn't perform a banned dead loop. She performed a dead loop, which was subsequently banned from Olympic competition. (Semantics, yes. But the phrasing grinds my gears for some reason.)
I always thought it was the one just after that, where she smashes her bladder into the bar, read something somewhere about internal damage, may be confused again
Standing on the high bar is banned for safety concerns, the move itself wasn't explicitly banned. Consider the equipment being used in the 70's - harder mats, less refined safety equipment and measures, all that good stuff.
I mean, sure but to a lay person why is this move risky/deadly compared to other high bar moves? It doesn't look that different from what we usually see.
Everyone's saying risky (which is is, obv) but... A LOT of Olympic sports are super risky right? High dive, luge, high jump. Oh well, I'm glad they're at least trying to keep athletes safe even if it does look super cool.
It's risky in that you have to have perfect timing, or you could risk injury, paralysis or even death at a higher probability than a lot of other moves. It doesn't allow room for much error.
It's a very dangerous move, because it's right at the crossroads of "easy to make a mistake" and "the consequences of a mistake here are likely to be a serious or even fatal injury." There's no way to practice it without doing it a bunch of times, and even with plenty of practice there's still a chance of a small-but-consequential mistake, so rather than have slews of kids wreck their bodies in practice and performance trying the move, they just ban it.
My understanding is that specifically she jumps away from both bars during the backflip. Meaning if she misses the grab she risked her neck and spine on the fall.
All risk, from as high as possible on the equipment, with no chance for any hope of recovery from the slightest error followed by a high g impact and complete reversal of momentum. It's real easy to break yourself permanently and real hard to practice.
The 'deadloop' is the backflip from standing on the high bar. If you miss the grab, you're virtually guaranteed to injure your neck or spine. And it's such a hard (and thus valuable) move, athletes would be essentially forced to add it to their routines in order to be competitive. So, it's banned.
I would think you'd belly flop or come down on your knees. Not good, but shouldn't she have to tuck in to get another 180 degrees and change of rotation?
Right cause i 100% woudlve bet it was the one where she yeets herself stomach first into the bar and back again... that looks a hell of a lot more dangerous
That's a lot more controllable, it's a good example of how something that looks simple can actually be much more technically complicated and dangerous. Not to say that the multiple stomach slams aren't potentially risky and technically complicated.
HurricaneShade
I was 9 years old. I still remember. When you only had 3 channels, wasn't much else going on.
taez555
For anyone having trouble reading the text...
rebelft
The bloody sign in the middle of the frame 🙄
Lowland
Ok, walk me through it because to me, they are all deadloops
Fishy820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onOgakokQB8 Good Video that she did a couple years back. Explains a lot and really good video.
philmoregraves
I mean it's impressive but it's also been shown here like 30 times. I expect this to be posted another 4 more times since u posted it. So thanks for that I guess
owlowl
https://www.google.com/search?q=Dead+Loop&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_7ukrZrU3xcSnzg-Ux4nYDA_44
saintrod69
Whenever someone says simone biles is the best gymnast of all time. I don't disagree, but I always say, "you really should checkout Olga or Nadia videos."
Chattafaukup
Cool. Which one was the banned move?
JarJarDrinks
Smashing young uteruses against poles is unhealthy.
CrimeSceneShoe
Saves you $500 though
DavidNightingale
"The Iron Lotus!"
THISISYELLING
Its banned because its rad as shit. Nerds.
LukeWarmTaunTaun
Kyen155
Meh, its not that bad.
Blunderwriter
Too bad the description couldn’t have fuckin gone away about 4 seconds in.
OCTAVlAN
Happens at 9 seconds
ArmathyAndTheUnfinishedBusiness2
Was it the last move?
ablamboo2
It would be easier to spot if there wasn't an opaque text box covering a third of the screen
Tehnam
Timestamp in the video?
TsubakiTragic
... and more that 40 years later my still body tenses when I see her on that top bar knowing what she's about to do. Watching it in 1972 left me speechless.
miertfoglaltmindenfelhasznalonev
Whoever put the giant non-transparent text bubble in the middle, covering up half her performance, should be kicked in the butt.
Innerspeaker
toe punch the fart box
zeusfdelta
It could’ve easy fit above it and should’ve disappeared after the routine started.
SidneyStratton
Some people have no editing insight. Like when you pause a video and there's the pause/play button right in the middle of the detail I'm looking for. Or the crap pause on YT with a suggestive banner at the bottom (Apple TV). Covers the in-laid text of the presenter (like the chemistry or the history or the supplemental info).
Ihadtoditchmyotherusernamebecauseofyou
Youtube is the worst, and then Instagram and their little nudge to move to the next video before you finish what you are watching. It really messes with our Psychology. We are being trained to move on to the next thing before we finish enjoying what we were focusing on. Oh, but back to editing, I think people do not really care about the actual video, they just want your attention.
Nemacol
I don't get it. more than half the stuff on this site has bad music or terrible captions. Shit should get downvoted to oblivion.
blwoodcock
She hardly died at all doing it though.
kerby233
what part is the dead loop?
RedTwoX
According to other comments: it's where she stands on the top bar and does a back flip. Just about 1/3rd through the clip.
iLikeRainyDays
Where she stands and does a backflip
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
1. I'd be dead if I attempted any of that.
2. The way she slams her pelvis into that bar scares me... greatly. I don't think any man would be able to generate that kind of force....
CaptMinion
Didn't they move the bars apart and it is impossible to do it during competition because they were moved apart?
DrSharkbite
Appollon
Looks just as unrealistic as the original version.
rmx256
I didn't know how much I needed to see this, thanks!
ActualTttony
She crazy jumping in this one
in9119iwas
need an old priest and a young priest
FinnStep19275
Physics doesn't care if you do it this way
LesbianDeathThreat
This is so dumb. I love it!
CiaranMcHale
Is that Benjamin Button?
TravisThePusseeFartFairy
No, it's tubroK aglO
FieryDoom
DrewK98
Actually there's a couple moves in there that look kinda cool.
OhIfIMust
zylokun
Which part is actually banned?
QuakThat
That whole routine looked pretty dangerous, which bit is the "dead loop"?
DiscountMentat
The last flip where her neck is inches over the lower bar.
BukkakeRider3000
Meanwhile, her intestines:
Timiny
which part is the dead loop?
notblubber
The part where she stands on the high bar and does a backflip is a dead loop. Maybe it's called that because if you do it wrong, you're dead?
MechanicalRomance
No its cause you stop moving.
TheoreticalString
No, it's the part where she slams her belly into the lower bar. Hit in the wrong part or with too much force and that's permanent damage to vital organs.
BlackCatCasper
I could do that, I just don’t want to
Knovar
Pah! I'm sure I could easily kill myself trying any of these moves.
backrideup9
Pfft. I'd survive every attempt just by being unable to hang onto the bar long enough to even start.
orangearcadi
The trick is not to have the upper body strength to get up to the bar in the first place
vkelcalvi
I could kill myself just watching this video too many times....
SkeksiLady
I thought it was the part where she slams her torso into the shorter bar and flips around, because it can cause internal injury? That's what I previously understood about it
SkeksiLady
Nevermind I googled it. It's that flip.
BarryTheCyborg
I don't get how it's more dangerous than any of the other moves she was doing
mossmoths
As a past gymnast, it actually looks safer than the other tricks cause falling would most likely land on hands and knees rather than neck. She would also fall further from the bars so she doesn’t get whacked on the way down. The other tricks are getting hit hard by the bars in the hip area. The sport is going to have dangers no matter how many moves get banned, they need to stop baby proofing sports and rather focus on banning tricks that repeated would cause internal injuries.
omgzwtfs
When you say internal injuries, do you mean organs? I've wondered how common intestinal damage or liver hits are, I imagine the latter is phenomenally painful from a bar
mossmoths
It can be anything internal, scarring building up, organ damage, veins, repeated crushing of tendon/ligaments, etc. the dismount I can see reason to be banned, her neck could be broken flying towards the bar like that.
DrewK98
But they *did* ban all the hip strike moves, didn't they?
mossmoths
Pretty sure, but I don’t watch or care about the Olympics so I’m not up to date on what’s allowed or banned.
I like watching the videos of backyard athletes who are too amazing for the Olympics so they wouldn’t make it being banned for amazing tricks and innovative skills. The ice skaters who go to frozen lakes are far more interesting than the ones who are not allowed to show their full set of skills.
nadiadybex
sneakypoo
So more information would be good for those of us who have no clue about the sport.
SpaceCowboy2517
Counterpoint, you could just appreciate the performance without regard to what the specific move is called.
alcaray
Basically: that routine was dangerous and some of the moves have been banned from international competition to protect the gymnasts.
unluckyandbored
Banned because it's extremely dangerous
in9119iwas
you have try not to fall down
SlutAtNight
Especially considering they all looked like dead looops to me
socraticmeathead
Yeah, picking out the "one move banned from competition for being too dangerous" in that routine was harder to spot than one would think.
CheeseDanish444
Yeah... "well, I would have died from that" ... "that too." ... "and that" ......
quzar
Olga Korbut performs the only ever documented banned dead loop at the 1972 Olympics
APassingPlasticBag
Between 8-11 seconds where she backflips off the top bar.
sniggly5212
The one time we need a red circle.
pixelsnader
She's wearing one around her neck. Come on man, pay attention...
Pheehelm
Vall707
There.
futureman3000
I can see why it was banned
cptwott
I, on the contrary, need an extra arrow
ih8clickb8
RedTailedHawk
The move is at the 9 second mark of the video.
hogninja
Thank you!
MBdub210
Thank you!
Krytture
That dismount looked pretty damn deadly, off a couple inches and hoop your neck/chin on the lower bar...damn
SidneyStratton
That was what I understood as a "Dead Loop".
BrockEffingSamson
Sorry, best we can do is an unchanging block of text in the middle of the screen.
AreaResident
Icannevercomeupwithaname5
The ‘Dead Loop’ is a classic gymnastic move that consists of a gymnast standing on the high bar, performing a backflip and grasping the bar again.
ideasbychuck
The dismount she did seemed more dangerous.
DarkwingDuc
Furthermore, it wasn't banned when she performed it. So she didn't perform a banned dead loop. She performed a dead loop, which was subsequently banned from Olympic competition. (Semantics, yes. But the phrasing grinds my gears for some reason.)
SentencesThatStartWithBitch
Nice to meet a fellow stickler.
SteamPriest
I always thought it was the one just after that, where she smashes her bladder into the bar, read something somewhere about internal damage, may be confused again
pupquine
Same. I thought more about the damage done to her bladder and uterus.
Akintunde
That doesn't need to be explicitly banned because it's impossible now that the uneven bars are much further apart.
MediaBlitz
No, that's the other banned move, the dead bladder.
Nofoxlefttogive
Doesn't that, in turn, trigger the Black Adder?
AlonzoMoselyFBI
My bladder is the deadEST.
badairdayyay
They do the deader bladder instead now. It’s quite fun.
KarmannGeezer
No. The dead bladder is what you get at the age of 65.
manyslayer
Yes! I'm an early bloomer.
KaitSithFortunes
Yea, what he's thinking of is called the deal breaker
hiyesthisissatan
Thank goodness it's banned!
tetsuothecat
I thought that's caused by the dead prostate
RootMeanSqr
Hey now, I resemble that remark.
DarthFutuza
But why is it banned?
Akintunde
Standing on the high bar is banned for safety concerns, the move itself wasn't explicitly banned. Consider the equipment being used in the 70's - harder mats, less refined safety equipment and measures, all that good stuff.
YellowSparrow
The name "dead loop" is a dead giveaway
BryanTenn
Showing a child kill themselves on TV would probably hurt the Olympics live TV ratings. Well... maybe....
BleedingQuasar
Hunger Games v0.782 Beta
CrimeSceneShoe
Probably due to being risky
DarthFutuza
I mean, sure but to a lay person why is this move risky/deadly compared to other high bar moves? It doesn't look that different from what we usually see.
CrimeSceneShoe
idk
thelonepig
Everyone's saying risky (which is is, obv) but... A LOT of Olympic sports are super risky right? High dive, luge, high jump. Oh well, I'm glad they're at least trying to keep athletes safe even if it does look super cool.
cutepiku
It's risky in that you have to have perfect timing, or you could risk injury, paralysis or even death at a higher probability than a lot of other moves. It doesn't allow room for much error.
AnApologeticCanadian
Because it too much for mere mortals to witness.
tombeithemist
Because the move, 'Dead Loop', is an anagram of Deadpool. The IOC was too chicken to risk R-rated profanity and deez nutz jokes in the Games..
dumidiot
It was deemed too cool and dangerous.
IfOnlyICouldUseMyPowersForGood
Probably all the death
Birdman79
Probably because if you mess it up you could become dead
Nitrobakter
Hi dead, I am son.
IAmTheEarlyEvening
Hence the name
dumidiot
Pft i could kill myself doing most of their routines.
stryhf
https://gymnasticscrown.com/dead-loop/ it's just too risky, subsequent gymnasts included full twists, which mean even more risks.
DarthFutuza
Thanks for actually answering the question. :D
Burke616
It's a very dangerous move, because it's right at the crossroads of "easy to make a mistake" and "the consequences of a mistake here are likely to be a serious or even fatal injury." There's no way to practice it without doing it a bunch of times, and even with plenty of practice there's still a chance of a small-but-consequential mistake, so rather than have slews of kids wreck their bodies in practice and performance trying the move, they just ban it.
BigRobbo
My understanding is that specifically she jumps away from both bars during the backflip. Meaning if she misses the grab she risked her neck and spine on the fall.
Raziel420
All risk, from as high as possible on the equipment, with no chance for any hope of recovery from the slightest error followed by a high g impact and complete reversal of momentum. It's real easy to break yourself permanently and real hard to practice.
LetMeSeeMyKids
She literally finished the routine with a back flip off the top bar to the floor.
Gaelwyn
No one is saying she messed it up. Just she's the only one who ever did it and now it's banned.
drbwaa
The 'deadloop' is the backflip from standing on the high bar. If you miss the grab, you're virtually guaranteed to injure your neck or spine. And it's such a hard (and thus valuable) move, athletes would be essentially forced to add it to their routines in order to be competitive. So, it's banned.
BishlamekGurpgork
I would think you'd belly flop or come down on your knees. Not good, but shouldn't she have to tuck in to get another 180 degrees and change of rotation?
Clayman8
Right cause i 100% woudlve bet it was the one where she yeets herself stomach first into the bar and back again... that looks a hell of a lot more dangerous
keraos
That's a lot more controllable, it's a good example of how something that looks simple can actually be much more technically complicated and dangerous. Not to say that the multiple stomach slams aren't potentially risky and technically complicated.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Yeah, I think those got banned at a later date, for that exact reason "potential for internal damage"