the difference between a good indie dev and a peasant indie dev

Oct 16, 2014 12:35 AM

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Did you just disgrace peasants by calling phil fish a peasant. Yes. Yes you did

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

To all the people wondering: Pixels real name is Daisuke Amaya.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Keep in mind he turned into a jerk after everyone kept harassing him to finish the game. He kinda just...snapped.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Isn't hating Phil Fish already in the standard gaming starter package shelled out to new game enthusiasts?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Its Apple and PC all over again.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I wish more games let you save your game and continue from where you left off.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

YES!!! Doukutsu in imgur! That's my fetish

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fez is good...Isn't it? I don't know anymore.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Fez is a good game. The developer is an annoying arrogant idiot.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

..So is Arkham Knight coming out on PC or not then?

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Yes it is

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Phuck Phil

11 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 8

I'm somehow glad 4chan hacked his page... he's an asshole!

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I recommend you watch Indie Game the Movie. It features Phil Fish and other indie game creators. He's not a total dick there..

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

How is this not near the top comments?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Pretty sure he's bipolar (manic/depressive); traits really came out in Indie Game.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Could be. He's a great game designer, too bad he is one of the most hated dev now... I don't give a shit about the drama, I'd like fez2

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fish is legit psycho, he cracked with the pressure of becoming big. He was in the process of making his next game, had a meltdown on Twitter

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The Japanese do make bad games the vast majority of the time. They didn't used to, though.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

I feel like there's a very warped image of Phil Fish, it seems like everything he says is taken out context to make him look bad. [1/2]

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

I'd recommend everybody to watch the Indie Game: The Movie Special Edition to get another perspective on this whole situation. [2/2]

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

This is true. Innuendo Studios did a good video on Phil, it's on youtube.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Its those sickening chops of his, it inspires pure hatred in all who bear witness

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nice try, Phil.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Kanye West makes video games??

11 years ago | Likes 169 Dislikes 7

he's a Gay (phil) Fish

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Kanye ain't this bad.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

Have you never seen Kanye talk about himself?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

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11 years ago (deleted Oct 17, 2014 8:03 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

LOLLOLOLOL

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

At least Kanye repeatedly puts out amazing content. He's one of the best and he knows it. Fez stole it's main concept and took forever

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

you are out of your mind. Kanye is pure garbage

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Wait, for real? Ignoring personal taste, 4 of his 6 albums have been unanimously critically acclaimed and the other 2 were received well too

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

But... FEZ has been out on steam for a year already...

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

he made a big deal about how it would never come to steam because that would compromise his games artistic integrity.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I hated him before I even started reading. I don't even know what Fez is, but by God if I don't know what Cave Story is. Great fucking game.

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 3

Fez is a cool puzzle game, but the Fish hatred isn't about that. A quick search for "Fez 2 cancelled" should tell you all you need to know.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I bought and enjoyed Fez before I knew what a dickhead Phil Fish was. I feel dirty.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You should go sit in the shower!

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fez is absolutely gorgeous game, despite what you might think about the creator.

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 8

It's a good game but hardly what it has been sold for. And for me, that's a deal-breaker.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

it's true it's a great game and i try to love it on its own merit (i discovered it before i did fish) but fish is such a dick.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So what? Can't a lame guy create great game? Does it make the game crappier?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

fish made a great game and i love it...but he's so emotionally immature that i have issues defending him.

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

You can't defend him when he shits all over himself

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

as a game dev, not as a person. people often conflate his status as a person and the quality of his game.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Then don't.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Agreed.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

as a game dev, not as a person. people dislike him and conflate that with his abilities as a game designer.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I don't understand what's going on, but the guy on the right sounds like Kanye.

11 years ago | Likes 1846 Dislikes 10

Kanye actually is genius, regardless of his ongoing douchebaggery

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

I watche Indie: the game, and I was very happy for him. Then I found out what kind of guy that is : /

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

He just treats himself like Kanye treats Kanye

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Canada's Kanye

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I feel SO bad that he is from my hometown v

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What's sad is that there is A LOT of guys like this in the video game industry. You'll have to deal with a Kanye or two in any art genre.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Phil gives me the impression that he is somewhere on the autism spectrum. I honestly feel bad for him every time he says something dumb.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He basically is.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

and that's fine with me

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You just offended Kanye.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Phil Fish was an indie game dev that was just like every other asshole on the internet, but then he became famous and didn't change (1)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

his behavior and so people started getting angry because he was famous and acting like he always did

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Except Kanye actually makes good shit.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

dope*

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As TotalBiscuit put it - "Phil Fish was mean to people on the Internet".

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

he is a bigger prick that likes to have rage fits on twitter

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

If Kanye made one semi decent album then threw a temper tantrum and quit, yeah.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I thought Kanye was a gay fish, not a phil fish.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

He has a handsome jack personality

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

But handsome jack is like a supervillian who we all love to hate. This dudes just a dick

11 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Holy shit I can't wait for the pre-sequel to come out tomorrow

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

LASER SHOTGUNS!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Nah, Kanye isn't that bad.

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 4

Kanye is just very arrogant to the point where it's possibly a character (possibly), Phil Fish does shit and is a massive prick to people

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

With the amount of shit thrown at this guy since Day 1, I'd be a massive prick too.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Plenty of people got way more shit thrown at them and handled it without being a massive prick (flappy bird being the biggest example)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Not nearly as bad as Fish. Getting daily death threats for not releasing the game is absurd.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

At least Kayne never tried this shit http://imgur.com/lRe7uG3

11 years ago | Likes 107 Dislikes 3

all my keks

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

the toppest of keks, sir

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I don't even know where to start reading.

11 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 2

From the top.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thanks smartass.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

notice the screenshot and then the op

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

The original post is a guy saying 4chan are a bunch of dicks for making Fill Pish cancel Fez 2, the problem is that the screenshot (1/?)

11 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 1

he used was from a tweeter post with the "delete" option showing, this means that Bill Fish was OP and was defending himself as Anonymous .

11 years ago | Likes 50 Dislikes 1

Someone was.... Fishing for compliments.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh :P

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

He's worse than Kanye. He goes out of his way to slander those who have done work for him, then talks about how he's such a fucking God.

11 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Kanye is an amazing music producer. Literally one of the best of all time. Learn your stuff.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

Of all time?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I don't care what he does off stage, his career has been success after success.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha stoppit I'

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

No joke, do some research

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

My bad mah nigga, mah homie took over my shit. He dunno wtf he talkin' 'bout, he a white motherfucker.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I see this a lot, but have never heard a song sung by or produced by him that I would classify as more than 'passable'. That said (1/2)

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

(2/2) I realize that I do not enjoy rap music at all, and as such I really don't have a feel for what the 'best' would sound like.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I don't like all types of music. Doesn't mean Miles Davis is terrible at Jazz. Kanye produces all his own music and has for 10+ years.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Cave story is a wonderful game!

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Phil Fish is my favorite bag of drama. After being called a tosspot he cancelled Fez 2, and I've been laughing ever since

11 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 1

He is a fucking manchild that deservers the hate he gets. :P

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Watching Indie Game the Movie makes me very concerned that Fish will snap.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This isn't a fair comparison. Phil Fish is a massive shit, but he's not representative of indie devs.

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 5

^this

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

No one is saying he is.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Can't stop the brakes on the pcmasterrace circlejerk train.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Your comment makes no sense. Who the fuck said he was representative of indie devs?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Having never seen Phil Fish before that is kinda how I pictured him but the mutton chops are a great surprise

11 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 3

Looks like captain boomerang.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He looks perfect doesnt he you know hes a penis just by looking at him

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Punctuation.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Hands up if you played Cave Story till the end and enjoyed it.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

2 times. One normal end and one best end playthrough.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I was too scared I'd fuck up to get the good ending. :[

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There are a LOT of places where if you make a hiccup you miss the route to Hell, but it's worth trying until it takes! :)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The "normal" ending is pretty depressing, the fight through Hell is definitely worth it! :D Love Cave Story!

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

if those quotes are accurate, phil fish just blew my mind, I never realised so much arrogance could be contained in a single person

11 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 6

Look d00d, I make games, and I have to say that with great sideburns come great responsibility. Could I grow those, I'd be be nicer than he

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Watch "Indie Game: The movie" he features in it and is a certifiable crazy person. Also a good movie if you're not into games (like me)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

You've got to admit that they all came off a slightly crazy in that movie though.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

But he was extra special. All the devs were weirdos but come on.. Phil Fish had an ego at least 8x the size of anyone else

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You are right. At least the others remained fairly humble and in awe of what they had managed to achieve.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Have you never heard of Kanye West

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

At least kanye has put out 10 years worth of amazing content

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

that hair is terrible, I don't get why no-one has told him, seriously, that's the first thing I noticed... but maybe that's his plan O_o

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

yup, focus on the hair and not his god-complex.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Watch "Indie film: The Game". He is actually that big of a prick, and absolutely said all of those things.

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 6

What? I watched it, and he was not at all the arrogant guy he showed after. He was worried about his game, but not an asshole...

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

I just made a comment about this! I agree, the game is his baby and his co-dev screwed him over.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

He's an arse. Claims to own all videos of his game, and thus be able to take 100% of the revenue generated by them - Among other things.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I hate when they use the word "peasant" for this kind of attitude. Peasants seldom have that level of self-righteousness

11 years ago | Likes 604 Dislikes 15

Look at the mud.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're right. I will now call them console Kaynes

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It's more because they're spewing uninformed garbage and acting like an unwashed, peasant. Ignorant and groveling to a console potato.

11 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 9

So many synonyms for "arrogant", use them!

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I think OP was commenting on his "console peasant" status, not his peasant attitude.

11 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 2

I'm new to this guy... did we always hate him because of his attitude or just because he didn't want to make PC games?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm new to this dude too,but I'm tired of hating today. Let's just ignore the crap outta him.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Philthy console peasant

11 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

Hahaaaa...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Let's just use the word philthy when talking about console peasants from now on.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You've never been with peasants I presume

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The insult more revolves around the idea that they should "know their place." and that they are uneducated.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Surprisingly, I have found that being uneducated and being a tool are completely unrelated things

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Which kind of makes it more funny (and depressing) that consoles control the PC market in a way.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's the reason people are angry in first place. :P People say it's a joke but there is some legit anger to consoles for a good reason.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I can't speak for everyone but, for me, it is just a joke, at least when the term is used toward a gamer. I have some anger toward the [1]

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

developers who shortchange PC users in favor of console development but I understand why they do so and I don't blame the console [2]

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

gamers. You can't realistically expect people not to buy their platform of choice because it has an inadvertent negative effect on yours [3]

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(3) to lessen that effect by 'educating' the 'peasants' on how inferior a console is. This is the reasoning I have seen, in any case.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

(2) concerned the console users are buying an inferior platform for no reason and this has an adverse effect on them. They want-

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

(1) Yes they can. In the eyes of those who are angry the users are more at fault because it's just market economics. As far as they're-

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Is his name Pixel?

11 years ago | Likes 148 Dislikes 2

I think it's a pseudonym. Like Zun, creator of the Tohou games or Moot. Cave Story is amazing though

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i love you

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tons of people in Japanese creative industries go by pseudonyms or handle names. Partly anonymity I suppose, but it's part of the subculture

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

*Especially on the indie scene (or doujin scene as it would be known in Japan). And the line between indie and pro is very blurred there.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's not, he's Daisuke Amaya.

11 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 0

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6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Pikuselu, because he's Japanese.

11 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 4

Pikuseru*

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

PIKSISSU

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Is it just me, or do the Japanese have an obsession with using English words that they can't pronounce properly?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well their language makes it difficult to pronounce pretty much any foreign word, so...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No. They do pronounce it properly, in their own language. Almost all of the Japanese alphabet's characters consist of 2 "letters" in (1)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(2) English. Loan words are recreated in their own language so they can actually use them with eachother normally without having to learn

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(4) when in reality they're just speaking in another language, using loan words. But uh, yeah, knowledge is power or something. Woo Japan!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(3) and speak English. It's not an obsession, it's the language itself. It bugs me when people think they can't pronounce things "properly"

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

For those who want to understand just how much of a Kayne Phil Fish is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmTUW-owa2w

11 years ago | Likes 69 Dislikes 2

Gr8

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

good vid, but of course there's a way to be famous wrong. there's a way to be a person wrong, regardless of fame, and that's "being a dick"

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It certainly lends perspective. It doesn't justify his arrogant or dickish behavior, but I certainly don't feel like I can hate the guy.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

If you're not the kind of guy that can hate Phil Fish, you're not the kind of guy I want around my children.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

Bumped. The whole thing was very much worth the watch/listen.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Indie Game: The Movie has him in it, and he acts like an autistic twat the entire time. "My geeeenyussss" -game proceeds not to work at PAX-

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't dislike Phil as a concept. I dislike him as a person because he behaves like a terrible person.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

When anonymous people are dicks, I think they're assholes, but I probably won't see them again.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

When famous people are dicks, I'll remember that when they come up again and I will make decisions based on what I've seen.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or look at anything he's tweeted. Ever.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That was an excellent video, thank you.

11 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

From what i saw here he isn't even on the Kanye scale, he responds to insults with an insult and is a bit narcissistic whereas Kanye 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

tries to be the centerlight everywhere he goes and is very active in his pursuit of being an Ahole. 2/2

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

BTW i hate the fucking guy. He's an asshole.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

According to that video, it's the concept "Phil Fish" you hate

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I knew him long before all that went down. Back in his TIG days. He was an asshole then. Now he's famous for it.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He does seem like an asshole, sure, but celebrity assholes have agents and PR people. I suspect if he hired someone to run his Twitter (1/?)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

and quietly developed the game behind the scenes, he wouldn't be so infamous at all and we'd just be enjoying his game. Not all people (2/?)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh man what a watch, fuck Phil Fish...God I'm an asshole

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This video really isn't that good. The social justice point at the end is idiotic and it tries to excuse his behavior by saying (1)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"He doesn't know that famous people are treated differently!" as if non-famous people aren't also looked down upon for being dicks. (2)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's convincing and all. But it just saying that famous people can be dicks and get away with it.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

I don't about getting away with it. The last time I heard about Fish was something to do with the FBI...

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not really. He never said Phil should "get away with it", just gave some perspective on his (in)famy.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

He's saying that we hate the concept of his image.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's still not saying that he should get away with it. He was simply analyzing what people /really/ hate about Phil.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Also, the "concept" he mentions is not Phil's image. It's the concept of undeserved fame etc I mean the vid explains it pretty well.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We got some different opinions on this topic. For me it just seems like he's trying to calm everyone down by trying to make some sense in it

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

he said "we don't now phil fish" and we don't. People get famous and are expected things all of a sudden, this is a problem.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Non-famous people are expected to not be dicks as well. There just aren't as many consequences when few people see you being a dick.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We do know something about him. Let me make a small example. You suck.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Just for the record. "You suck" were an example. If someone is wondering.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're judging someone based solely on one aspect of him, he's more than that, who do you think you are, calling jerks out acting like one?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's the human nature. We judge to survive. If he acts like a jerk in one aspect then he's probable a jerk in other aspects.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1