On privacy controls, I'd encourage a watch of this video regarding the consequences: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIcM21l61TE At this point for twatter I'd say it can't be carelessness or naivety, they're extremely likely to know what's going to happen and decided that's okay or what they want
There's still some that use Twitter to broadcast small updates - for example, government organizations, MMO server maintenance, individual streamers and the like - and they need to move off Twitter and onto another platform so they can still be heard.
#5 TONS of companies are doing this with your data right now. Even industries you wouldn't ever think would use AI are jumping on the bandwagon to see if machine learning will save them money, and guess whose data they have on hand to train.. ours .
#1 Please Gabe, I am begging you, sell music and movies on Steam. I am sick of paying for them and having them disappear into a streaming service that then removes them.
Though not like Bluesky does nothing, they keep implementing features people want instead of removing them. They also have the best user experience on the market, ensuring that whenever Twitter chases away a new batch of users who wonder where to go, they're the one that gets recommended.
I follow 3700 people on Twitter. Of those, about 400 are on Bluesky and 120 on Mastodon. I'd love to leave forever. I hope this is finally the catalyst for a true mass exodus. I hope.
Leave Twatter and turn it into the right wing echo chamber Elongated Muskrat so desperately wants it to be. Let it collapse in on itself the rest of the way. There's no valid reason anyone should still be using it unless they want to be affiliated with its too-involved owner.
These "free speech" warriors only care about speech that's punching DOWN. That's always been okay, in every society for the entire history of the world. The whole point of freedom of speech is to be allowed to punch UP without fear of reprisal--and these fascist fucks want *nothing* to do with that.
#1 I have university education from game making, with side studies in economics so I happen to be a somewhat of an expert on a topic. The strategy is called "Don't be bloody idiot!" It seems to be a fairy hard strategy to follow, since most large corporations fail at it so miserably.
I took it as representation of how he sees the world, with the punchline at the end being reality poking through. He thinks he's absolutely brilliant. In *reality*, he's yet another overly-rich middle-lifer with the mental fortitude of a high schooler wearing their heart like an overshield. Bigass target and flimsy lol
Internet users managed to manipulate Google in to showing George W. Bush when you searched for "miserable failure" - you really think using Twitter is a good base to train AI...
#1 Steam didn't "do nothing". Steam did a lot of smaller things. Customer-friendly things, like refunds that weren't there for a decade or so, ability to search by tags, ability for users to add tags to the game, review ratings and so on. It is two decades of small incremental upgrades that make it so much better than any other platform, since they rarely have even 5% of useability that Steam has.
And the thing Valve would rather not be as well known, the provision that says if you want to sell your game on Steam, you can't sell it anywhere else cheaper than you sell it on Steam. I.E. if you want access to the biggest marketplace on PC, you make us your top dog or fuck off back to obscurity.
As a game dev, steam is a monopoly that takes 30% for doing very little. Fuck steam, I cannot wait for another competitor to come along and take away that monopoly.
Honestly, I'm worried lately about Steam. Mostly because I wonder what happens one day when gaben retires and someone else takes over. I worry it's going to be some Bobby Kotick MBA-type who'se going to look at Steam and think "we run the single largest digital marketplace for games in the world. How can we wring even more money out of our customers?" And then the enshittification begins.
I think it's somewhat inevitable, nothing lasts forever. I'd really love to see some kind of standards-driven approach that allows developers (or third-parties) to host their games, with them being sold via any compatible store and then played in any compatible client. There's little financial incentive in developing this though and the scope is probably a bit too broad for a solo dev, even if they could get anybody on board with it.
Steam users being able to tag games themselves is one of the dumbest moves imo. Example: "oh, I want to play a narrative driven indie game, let me try out the 'story rich' tag" and oh look, Power Wash Simulator is the number one result. Followed by Train Simulator.
The thing about user tags that always makes me get on my soapbox is the use of the goddamn "multiplayer" tag for games that contain zero multiplayer modes including even a co-op mode. Just why???? Is it wishful thinking from the same idiots that spam an indie, one man dev's game forums with "can this get co-op? when?" not having the brain capacity to understand that shit ain't easy to add. Also, since I have multiplayer filtered outta my store by default it can make me miss games randomly. Stop.
I don't disagree with anything else you said but yeah, the self-tagging of games gets abused either as a meme, or by people who legitimately don't know what the tags mean, and it makes it fucking infuriating to look for new games on steam. Also, my example above, power wash simulator, really is one of the games most often tagged as Story Rich.
Kind of? But you also have to think of the alternatives: devs tagging their own games? That just results in tons of tags to get attention (see: Amazon webshop listings). Assign curators who are allowed to tag games? You need a vetting process, there will be disagreement and drama, etc. (especially because volunteer positions with any kind of power attract assholes). Pay people to tag games? ...in this economy?
Maybe they could limit the number of dev-assigned tags, so they have to pick the ones that are most relevant to the game. I guess that might not stop them from misappropriating tags from more popular genres, but it would keep them from just slapping every possible tag on it and make them choose.
While Steam does a lot of things right the refunds appeared only after the courts ordered them to include refunds. Like they fought the courts tooth and nail to not need to give refunds.
While we can credit Valve for a lot of things, the refund policy is not one of them. EA and GOG offered refunds before Valve, and Valve didn't change their policy until they were force to. It was either in Australia or the EU. Valve has also been incredibly slow to react to certain things, like the issues of letting minors essentially gamble with CS skins. I like Valve, I love my Steam Deck, but I also remember that Valve have shown clear signs of being the opposite of consumer friendly, >
having a support that didn't work properly, not fixing major issues with the Steam client, and not wanting to offer said refunds. Love Steam all you want, but just keep in mind that Valve is a business, not your friend.
It was Australia that triggered that for Steam, anticipation of EU rules for most of the others (who didn't get fined as they implemented changes sooner). Valve were also among the first to hire psychologists to really amp their f2p monetisation strategies up to 11. Finally it is slowly coming to light now they've had some rather questionable unwritten policies in place to stifle competition: https://newsletter.gamediscover.co/p/does-steam-price-fix-and-does-that
There have been quite a few, the email in that article above was from discovery in one of them (the Wolfire case). The EU also hit them for an antitrust fine for geoblocking sales, they have a mass arbitration thing targeting antitrust violations in the US and there's a more recent class action in the UK.
In addition to all the development into Steam VR, Linux compatibility for games, Steam Deck, and a few less successful stuff like the Steam Link and Steam Controller.
But even the steam controller, while a terrible controller itself, brought us the whateverthefucktheycallit controller customization menu, effectively unifying xinput and directinput controller standards in the process.
wait the steam comtroller is bad? I heard its better then other controller when it comes to act as a mouse (most game on steam are keyboard+mouse). but as a 360 controller controller its bad.
Yeah unfortunately. Basically any controller with decent motion control (like the switch one for example) can fit the mouse roll better in most cases, and those where it doesn't you could use a wiimote for a better effect, or at that point just use a kb/m.
I had one, used for awhile, it was, for me, more chunky and clunky than it was actively bad. I just found myself reaching for other controllers than actually deciding consciously to stop using it, but again, I wouldn't actually call it a bad controller... If that makes sense...
I don't know. Ethical hackers should start hacking inactive/dormant accounts and delete them outright. It makes the numbers worse and less fodder for bots to take over.
There is no alternative. Also I think the only reason Twitter gets so much shit is because there are so many eyes on it. I wouldn't be surprised if most sites allow anything posted to be used for ai training.
Because they have bigger numbers there. That's it. No amount of reminding people that the userbase has shrunk by 90% as people flee the platform will stop them from pretending they do better on a platform where mostly bots see their work.
Sure as shit doesn't help that bsky doesn't embed yet.
Lot of Artists liked it for the engagement, the algorithm did a lot of work for them and it kept the BS aside, but now a lot are starting to perk up since Brazil and now this new policy.
I work in indie game industry. The entire marketing machine of the industry is via Twitter, unfortunately. Can't leave. All creators and developers use it. No viable alternative still.
A lot of people don't realize the impact and risks of the TOS still. I'd say that most of us on here have an above average grasp on the Internet. Most ON the Internet do not have this grasp.
Because some of my favorite people still use it. If they weren't there I'd delete it. "Machine learning" is nice cause I only post things Magas hate and Memes.
Getting past the fact that Twitter is the place where bad people can be bad people without having to hide behind posting anonymously, it's probably a sunk cost fallacy.
I tried following some people that I liked the creative output of (actors, writers, artists). Turns out that, in addition to posting WAY too often, just about everyone is also a political activist on Twitter and no, I don't need to read everyone's lukewarm takes on the state of US politics.
I never understood why anyone ever saw value in Twitter. Its a platform that is based on destroying long form thought catering directly to people who can't believe no one else thinks their opinion is important.
Because, in some spheres (a lot of scientists I know) don't realise how bad it is getting/don't see it because they are in there own bubble on the site. I gave up when I saw the X logo on my phone. Deleted there and then. It has impacted my ability to communicate. But I am advocating to colleges to drop it and they are starting to listen now.
I don't use it, but I keep my account because I was waiting for him to give up and sell it for a fraction of what he paid (hopefully to someone more sane). I think it's time to give up.
Sometimes it's hard to look away from a trainwreck? I dunno, I never got the whole social media thing to begin with, so I'm watching all this from the outside.
As products like Apple and Beats has shown us. Doesnt matter how trash a product is, people will use it because it is popular, and do insane mental gymnastics to defend it.
I still follow blizzardcs on xitter because I want stuff about WoW, like maintenance schedules and suchlike. I could probably get that elsewhere but the inertia is palpable. Don't use it for much else. Finding details when someone posts a screenshot here.
I never really got why people would use it in the first place. How much I appreciate a celebrity is historically inversely proportional to how much I hear of their personal thoughts.
Haven't posted anything to it in years and I deleted everything. Only kept the account because it's almost impossible to browse the service without being logged in without it flinging login/sign-up windows at you.
Lots of people I interact with and follow are still there, and some might make accounts elsewhere, but where? And they will be in different places. So for now, it's all mostly in one place. Has nothing to do with nazis in any way.
Xhit at each of them to jump to threads or Mastodon and then peace the fuck out of there. It's not hard. You'll find them elsewhere or make new friends.
There's no use in trying to convince the people that can't figure out users were on Twitter before it became Elon's butthole. They're high and mighty on the fact they didn't lose anything.
Alot of artists still use it due to it being the majority of their viewerbase and how they make any sort of income. Twitter is how many get any exposure at all. Many once great art platforms now enforce ai training off of peoples art, whether they like it or not. Like 99% of these artists do not want AI to train off of their content but feel like they have no choice but to stay if their fanbase doesn't make the switch.
Artists have already been fighting against ai and the unethical policies being forced upon them and one very famous digital artist, Loish, literally has people generating her artstyle which also includes her signature and these people are selling it. I've seen people tell artists that when they put their work out there, its no longer their property. So, you either lose your income or let ai abuse your rights to ownership and lose income either way. Its much worse than how I described though.
I saw an article where a Playstation CEO was complaining on how there's suddenly a lack of creativity- gee, I wonder why? I guess underpayment. Undermining and overworking artists then to tell them their artwork no longer belongs to them thanks to ai training models might have a severe impact on the content artists are willing to put out there. Ai is being used for the wrong reasons.
A number of people use twitter because it's the largest platform of it's kind, and their job is getting as many eyes on their other content as possible.
The same reason why some people stay at the party until 4-7am. They are hatefully lonely and this is where everyone was just a moment ago, even if it isn't where they are now.
There are (positive, wholesome) communities there that don’t exist (at nearly the same scale) elsewhere. It’s where many of “my people” are at, and as long as I can see my feed of my people, it’s a good experience.
Well if this TOS is accurate, artists will start leaving Twitter soon since that last one basically says we own any art you upload and plan to train our AIs on it
it was a pretty weird platform from day one, like.. who wants to to share a message board with their extended families, and a bunch of random try hard politicians?..
With the messages limited to original SMS length. Ridiculous. That was my main issue with it. It was never a good platform for socialising, more for brief status updates. ("Service down for maintenance for 2 hrs, be patient!", "Next version of a thing out on [date]!")
Yes! Hated Twitter from day one, and hated watching it become so all-encompassing. Not a fan of the Musk but at least he managed to scuttle that awful site.
I have a 3rd reason: To see which of your friends/relatives are Nazis. I was shocked a few years ago to hear a cousin take an anti-abortion stance. According to her, white people are dying off faster than they can be replaced and she blames abortion. She wants it abolished - but only for white people. She's still in favor of black/brown people getting abortions, however.
She has never said this out loud at family gatherings. It was only on social media that I learned this about her.
Some countries with lesser free speech use social medias, and mainly twitter unfortunately, as a way to get less politically biaised news. Some parts of the world are too poor to care about how bad musk is.
Also the fact many people had relied on it for their jobs. Artists, musicians, celebrities, anyone at all who needs to stay in the public eye to make income and already had the followers there. Msny have been TRYING to migrate their accounts, but not even bluesky offers the sane user experience and as such, they simply cannot get traction on any other sites. So they stay there, which feedback loops to their fans staying there with them, which feedback loops to the artist staying. So on.
Yeah, at this point the sole reason I use Twitter is because it's the best way to keep in touch with an artist I really like to commission work from. That's it. They ever announce a BlueSky and I'll bail
It would take X doing somthing that hurts artists worse than cutting off their nose to spite their face, to get a proper mass exodus. Fortunately E seems to be happy to try and give them that thing.
Another reason why fans stay is also because artists aren't a hivemind and whole most migrate to bsky, not ALL of them do. Furry artists might migrate to furaffinity or 621, anime to pixiv or any of the numerous boros, photography back to Instagram, nsfw even softcore to hard porn sites because of lack of alternatives, musicians to soundcloud or YouTube. Fans don't like having to suddenly make accounts in 50 different places when before they could find all of them on x before.
I used to be a mod in a fairly large forum; when a certain decision was unilaterally taken by the person backing the whole project, the userbase was splintered into 3 major new forums. For various reasons, some people picked one or more of the newer forums, while others picked different ones. Others just disappeared. Some of us tried, but eventually faded from the community.
That's where all the artists are, some have moved to bluesky etc but all main content from them and the best way to find new ones is on Twitter. Aside from that on the non-explicit side of Twitter I've heard arguments (and I would agree) that while Elon owns Twitter, it already was a community of people and they aren't going to leave because that jackass owns it now. There's a reason we all still call it Twitter and not x, the community is separate from the company if that makes sense
Eh. While I haven't engaged on Twitter in a long time it is still kind of the single best place for indie game news and to learn about upcoming games tbh
It absolutely is not. Both Reddit and Steam are far better at that. If you follow indie developers on twitter you could just as well follow them on other sites since no developers can publish any game on twitter itself, they must be using other media. Shit excuse
Well invent a new doucheless platform for your indie gaming news. There must be a different info stream for this. Reject the nonsense and something better may come along. That’s innovation.
Lots of people I interact with and follow are still there, and some might make accounts elsewhere, but where? And they will be in different places. So for now, it's all mostly in one place. Has nothing to do with nazis in any way.
aducksayswhat
On privacy controls, I'd encourage a watch of this video regarding the consequences: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIcM21l61TE At this point for twatter I'd say it can't be carelessness or naivety, they're extremely likely to know what's going to happen and decided that's okay or what they want
trinxter
End times for the creep boy.
3Davideo
There's still some that use Twitter to broadcast small updates - for example, government organizations, MMO server maintenance, individual streamers and the like - and they need to move off Twitter and onto another platform so they can still be heard.
DrSchlepenstein
Musk really knows how to waste $44 billion and then even more as he tries to keep his version of Truth Social alive.
EnergyFiend
#5 TONS of companies are doing this with your data right now. Even industries you wouldn't ever think would use AI are jumping on the bandwagon to see if machine learning will save them money, and guess whose data they have on hand to train.. ours .
dghughes
Hey Grok-1 how many R's are there in Racist?
khora
It was always weird that you could view public posts from people who blocked you as long as you didn't log in.
johnvictor
Again, why do people still have accounts for a Nazi Speech platform?
DukeSliscus
He literally disabled block because he's the most blocked user on the platform and it burns him up so much
MyCatsNameIsPotato
Tarrant county is essentially Arlington/Mansfield area with a little bit of Grand Prairie and a few other cities. Source: home county
MyBigMouth
#5 Ah, the Adobe model of shooting yourself in the foot. Masterful gambit.
Spidey209
#1 Please Gabe, I am begging you, sell music and movies on Steam. I am sick of paying for them and having them disappear into a streaming service that then removes them.
Colopty
Though not like Bluesky does nothing, they keep implementing features people want instead of removing them. They also have the best user experience on the market, ensuring that whenever Twitter chases away a new batch of users who wonder where to go, they're the one that gets recommended.
DorkJedi
That TOS is the most amazingly egregious judge shopping ever seen by mankind.
SilverStarling
I only ever used twitter to enter competitions and complain to companies with no chat option on their own site.
TheMeatIncident
lol fck the Musk
zleeping20101
When you accomplish 1/1000000 of what he has, then talk. Moron.
fnoigy
Wait, does that one indicate that any issue X has with your post immediately gets sent to court? Like, legal punishment for speech Elon doesn't like?
Revicus
No, just that if you do have a legal dispute, you're required to resolve it in their puppet judge's back yard.
RealTurdFerguson
I can’t believe anyone is still on that right wing shit hole.
mizzamir
I follow 3700 people on Twitter. Of those, about 400 are on Bluesky and 120 on Mastodon. I'd love to leave forever. I hope this is finally the catalyst for a true mass exodus. I hope.
HariboHeadhunter
Leave Twatter and turn it into the right wing echo chamber Elongated Muskrat so desperately wants it to be. Let it collapse in on itself the rest of the way. There's no valid reason anyone should still be using it unless they want to be affiliated with its too-involved owner.
Slidje
I don't disagree with being able to see a public post if you are blocked. You see the same post, if you log out anyway
PauliePlaysPoorly
So start writing all your Twits in pig Latin.
painstream
Time for Esperanto to shine!
IAmASentientWaffle
Ido
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari
writerbuddy
Makes me wonder why he didn't call it "Q" since he thinks he's a being with god-like powers.
HitandRyan
GET OFF OF TWITTER
SecretAgentSuperBooger
jette37
These "free speech" warriors only care about speech that's punching DOWN. That's always been okay, in every society for the entire history of the world. The whole point of freedom of speech is to be allowed to punch UP without fear of reprisal--and these fascist fucks want *nothing* to do with that.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
Chibidragon
#1 I have university education from game making, with side studies in economics so I happen to be a somewhat of an expert on a topic. The strategy is called "Don't be bloody idiot!" It seems to be a fairy hard strategy to follow, since most large corporations fail at it so miserably.
VeryLongTimeLurker
StrideWideMan
It might be the funniest part that it *immediately* goes to a list of Patreon backers.
ComoSeIguana
Feanordidnothingwrong3000
Getting some serious newgrounds vibes here
HardcoreMango
TheUnnamedPoet
Funny except we all know that he isn't the real life Tony Stark... He's the real life Justin Hammer
chronozoan
I took it as representation of how he sees the world, with the punchline at the end being reality poking through. He thinks he's absolutely brilliant. In *reality*, he's yet another overly-rich middle-lifer with the mental fortitude of a high schooler wearing their heart like an overshield. Bigass target and flimsy lol
dishonor
Even hammer in the movie realized he went to far.
AxellTheDragon
Hey at least Hammer had some nice moves.
JaceTiger
He's not even the real life Justin Hammer. He's more like a shittier, dumber Thomas Edison
IThoughtIdComeUpWithABetterUserNameThanThis
tbf Edison was kind of an idiot too, he just didn't have a globally visible platform to spout of his idiocy from
HereticsAllOfYou
Edison was not an idiot. He knew what he was doing. It was dickish, but well thought out. Same can't be said for Musk.
2000000bees
Ah but he clearly sees himself as tony stark lol
SamuelPenning
Hey! Justin Hammer was both entertaining and hilarious!
PapaSez
And he could dance.
cunninglinguist85
Sh1tMovieGroup
Internet users managed to manipulate Google in to showing George W. Bush when you searched for "miserable failure" - you really think using Twitter is a good base to train AI...
fartharder
No, the search engine was working as intended
Sinael
#1 Steam didn't "do nothing". Steam did a lot of smaller things. Customer-friendly things, like refunds that weren't there for a decade or so, ability to search by tags, ability for users to add tags to the game, review ratings and so on. It is two decades of small incremental upgrades that make it so much better than any other platform, since they rarely have even 5% of useability that Steam has.
AlmightyElephant
And the thing Valve would rather not be as well known, the provision that says if you want to sell your game on Steam, you can't sell it anywhere else cheaper than you sell it on Steam. I.E. if you want access to the biggest marketplace on PC, you make us your top dog or fuck off back to obscurity.
Dechno
That rule applies to Steam keys specifically. Developers are free to set any prices they want on competing stores that don't use Steam keys.
IAmASentientWaffle
Yes, and this is the flip side of devs being able to generate as many keys as they want. Kinda makes sense tbh.
gelupa
Now if they would just fix the cheating epidemic in CS instead of adding dangling dongs to the weapons.
JohnSmithterms
As a game dev, steam is a monopoly that takes 30% for doing very little. Fuck steam, I cannot wait for another competitor to come along and take away that monopoly.
CP3oh
Honestly, I'm worried lately about Steam. Mostly because I wonder what happens one day when gaben retires and someone else takes over. I worry it's going to be some Bobby Kotick MBA-type who'se going to look at Steam and think "we run the single largest digital marketplace for games in the world. How can we wring even more money out of our customers?" And then the enshittification begins.
SimiKusoni
I think it's somewhat inevitable, nothing lasts forever. I'd really love to see some kind of standards-driven approach that allows developers (or third-parties) to host their games, with them being sold via any compatible store and then played in any compatible client. There's little financial incentive in developing this though and the scope is probably a bit too broad for a solo dev, even if they could get anybody on board with it.
Bigbob993
Steam users being able to tag games themselves is one of the dumbest moves imo. Example: "oh, I want to play a narrative driven indie game, let me try out the 'story rich' tag" and oh look, Power Wash Simulator is the number one result. Followed by Train Simulator.
bunnylizard
The thing about user tags that always makes me get on my soapbox is the use of the goddamn "multiplayer" tag for games that contain zero multiplayer modes including even a co-op mode. Just why???? Is it wishful thinking from the same idiots that spam an indie, one man dev's game forums with "can this get co-op? when?" not having the brain capacity to understand that shit ain't easy to add. Also, since I have multiplayer filtered outta my store by default it can make me miss games randomly. Stop.
Divran
user created tags should be treated differently from "official" tags and you should be able to filter by both at once or either separately, imo
Bigbob993
I don't disagree with anything else you said but yeah, the self-tagging of games gets abused either as a meme, or by people who legitimately don't know what the tags mean, and it makes it fucking infuriating to look for new games on steam. Also, my example above, power wash simulator, really is one of the games most often tagged as Story Rich.
Boksha
Kind of? But you also have to think of the alternatives: devs tagging their own games? That just results in tons of tags to get attention (see: Amazon webshop listings). Assign curators who are allowed to tag games? You need a vetting process, there will be disagreement and drama, etc. (especially because volunteer positions with any kind of power attract assholes). Pay people to tag games? ...in this economy?
Revicus
Maybe they could limit the number of dev-assigned tags, so they have to pick the ones that are most relevant to the game. I guess that might not stop them from misappropriating tags from more popular genres, but it would keep them from just slapping every possible tag on it and make them choose.
TwoNineSix
I hate that I can't use the feature that blocks certain tags out of fear that I might miss out on an incorrectly tagged game that I'd like.
mormacil
While Steam does a lot of things right the refunds appeared only after the courts ordered them to include refunds. Like they fought the courts tooth and nail to not need to give refunds.
NinjaStrikeForce
While we can credit Valve for a lot of things, the refund policy is not one of them. EA and GOG offered refunds before Valve, and Valve didn't change their policy until they were force to. It was either in Australia or the EU. Valve has also been incredibly slow to react to certain things, like the issues of letting minors essentially gamble with CS skins. I like Valve, I love my Steam Deck, but I also remember that Valve have shown clear signs of being the opposite of consumer friendly, >
NinjaStrikeForce
having a support that didn't work properly, not fixing major issues with the Steam client, and not wanting to offer said refunds. Love Steam all you want, but just keep in mind that Valve is a business, not your friend.
SimiKusoni
It was Australia that triggered that for Steam, anticipation of EU rules for most of the others (who didn't get fined as they implemented changes sooner). Valve were also among the first to hire psychologists to really amp their f2p monetisation strategies up to 11. Finally it is slowly coming to light now they've had some rather questionable unwritten policies in place to stifle competition: https://newsletter.gamediscover.co/p/does-steam-price-fix-and-does-that
NinjaStrikeForce
I did not know the parts about F2P, but had heard about their approach to competition. Wasn't there an anti-trust thing a few years back also?
SimiKusoni
There have been quite a few, the email in that article above was from discovery in one of them (the Wolfire case). The EU also hit them for an antitrust fine for geoblocking sales, they have a mass arbitration thing targeting antitrust violations in the US and there's a more recent class action in the UK.
NinjaStrikeForce
I guess GabeN will be busy! Oh well, it's for the best. Like every other huge business they need to be on a short leach.
Xenarion
In addition to all the development into Steam VR, Linux compatibility for games, Steam Deck, and a few less successful stuff like the Steam Link and Steam Controller.
Xenarion
They also recently changed how family game sharing works in a way that is much less restrictive.
n0gal
But even the steam controller, while a terrible controller itself, brought us the whateverthefucktheycallit controller customization menu, effectively unifying xinput and directinput controller standards in the process.
Xenarion
Yeah, that's why innovation is important. Even if something doesn't work, it might bring good new technologies with it.
ZackWester
wait the steam comtroller is bad? I heard its better then other controller when it comes to act as a mouse (most game on steam are keyboard+mouse). but as a 360 controller controller its bad.
n0gal
Yeah unfortunately. Basically any controller with decent motion control (like the switch one for example) can fit the mouse roll better in most cases, and those where it doesn't you could use a wiimote for a better effect, or at that point just use a kb/m.
AngryRaven
I had one, used for awhile, it was, for me, more chunky and clunky than it was actively bad. I just found myself reaching for other controllers than actually deciding consciously to stop using it, but again, I wouldn't actually call it a bad controller... If that makes sense...
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
I don't get why anyone would still use Twitter
STGxDante
The girls with daddy issues sometimes post their tibs there. Kinda nice
cdlong
I don't know. Ethical hackers should start hacking inactive/dormant accounts and delete them outright. It makes the numbers worse and less fodder for bots to take over.
ShadeMeadowsArt
Need.
I use out of need.
Nsturge
There is no alternative. Also I think the only reason Twitter gets so much shit is because there are so many eyes on it. I wouldn't be surprised if most sites allow anything posted to be used for ai training.
KalypsoKirin
Because they have bigger numbers there. That's it. No amount of reminding people that the userbase has shrunk by 90% as people flee the platform will stop them from pretending they do better on a platform where mostly bots see their work.
Sure as shit doesn't help that bsky doesn't embed yet.
FrogSupreme
I was there before Elon. He's the one who should leave.
TheDaharMaster
“Why should I change? HE’S THE ONE WHO SUCKS!”
Bandlith
Lot of Artists liked it for the engagement, the algorithm did a lot of work for them and it kept the BS aside, but now a lot are starting to perk up since Brazil and now this new policy.
pritolus
I didn't get it before Elon either, it was the first platform to make me feel old in the sense that I didn't see the point or appeal
Tasselfoot
I work in indie game industry. The entire marketing machine of the industry is via Twitter, unfortunately. Can't leave. All creators and developers use it. No viable alternative still.
TeamRocketHR
Same for a bunch of other creative industries.
But no, we must all be crazy or bad to have not weaned off of it yet. *eyeroll*
Frodomann1
I used to use it for some nice niche porn once tumblr committed puritan pornban seppuku
RavenVG
A lot of people don't realize the impact and risks of the TOS still. I'd say that most of us on here have an above average grasp on the Internet. Most ON the Internet do not have this grasp.
HoldingAccount
I get most of my football (soccer) content there. It's still the best place for it.
eyemastervideo5
People need to leave it badly
4Astaroth
Because some of my favorite people still use it. If they weren't there I'd delete it. "Machine learning" is nice cause I only post things Magas hate and Memes.
mitula23
Required for work.
Thisisnottheend
Getting past the fact that Twitter is the place where bad people can be bad people without having to hide behind posting anonymously, it's probably a sunk cost fallacy.
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
Basically just to wait for a few artists I follow to get their bluesky. I used sky bridge (chrome addon) to follow a bunch the other day
UncleMeaty
So I can teach their AI that Elon Musk is a motherfucker.
hotrodny
I am proud of the fact that I have never used it. I created an account and logged in, but after seeing what it was i never used it.
focusingblur
I tried following some people that I liked the creative output of (actors, writers, artists). Turns out that, in addition to posting WAY too often, just about everyone is also a political activist on Twitter and no, I don't need to read everyone's lukewarm takes on the state of US politics.
Idontneedrealfacts
I never understood why anyone ever saw value in Twitter. Its a platform that is based on destroying long form thought catering directly to people who can't believe no one else thinks their opinion is important.
Icethorn
@sleeperkid
ShutUpMeh
Throwing good money after bad, so to speak
NergalJester
There's tons of porn on it already catered to my kinks and I'm super lazy.
wr8070m98
If we want people to stop using twitter, we should have boycott campaigns against businesses still posting there.
Toqom
Mocking people and never looking at replies
BigAZNMan
Porn and gore mostly
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Never been on there, but it's usually people having a hard time admitting that something they used to love slowly turned to shit.
BarmyCranberry
Because, in some spheres (a lot of scientists I know) don't realise how bad it is getting/don't see it because they are in there own bubble on the site. I gave up when I saw the X logo on my phone. Deleted there and then. It has impacted my ability to communicate. But I am advocating to colleges to drop it and they are starting to listen now.
RobBobertyYT
I don't use it, but I keep my account because I was waiting for him to give up and sell it for a fraction of what he paid (hopefully to someone more sane). I think it's time to give up.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
A number of cat rescues I'm involved with use it. If not for that I'd have been long gone, long ago.
Jinxies
Sometimes it's hard to look away from a trainwreck? I dunno, I never got the whole social media thing to begin with, so I'm watching all this from the outside.
Senderoth
As products like Apple and Beats has shown us. Doesnt matter how trash a product is, people will use it because it is popular, and do insane mental gymnastics to defend it.
ImgursLibertarian
Immediate NWS/NOAA alerts on tornadoes. Faster than the emergency broadcast, and basically as fast as the local stations & radar...
ImgursLibertarian
Also I like earthquake bot.
4noku
Really good gay bondage porn creator.
Alfurin
I use it as a zoom of sorts.
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
I don't get why anyone ever did.
MechaNinja
I still follow blizzardcs on xitter because I want stuff about WoW, like maintenance schedules and suchlike. I could probably get that elsewhere but the inertia is palpable. Don't use it for much else. Finding details when someone posts a screenshot here.
theworldcouldbeflat
"WoW updates" vs kids dying at schools good choice...
Morganelefay
There's a LOT of public figures/teams/game companies that I follow that simply aren't anywhere else yet, unfortunately.
GlobalImageServiceCat
Well, at least 75 million Americans believe Trump is sent and anointed by God, so there you go.
khora
You have no choice if you want to follow journalists and politicians.
MikaMox
Of course you do. Many of them are now available on Threads and BlueSky
khora
"Is Pepsi alright?"
Richter12x2
I never really got why people would use it in the first place. How much I appreciate a celebrity is historically inversely proportional to how much I hear of their personal thoughts.
Quessir
Haven't posted anything to it in years and I deleted everything. Only kept the account because it's almost impossible to browse the service without being logged in without it flinging login/sign-up windows at you.
Just deactivated it now. Fuck you, Musk.
forsteri80
People keep upvoting sleeperkid for posting their Twitter screenshots here
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
There are only about two dozen regular posters of OC on Imgur now, we have to take what we can get.
nachosyndicate
News still breaks fast on the platform.
Ialwayslookhungover
Easiest way to find like-minded nazi folks for picnics.
LadyNetrex
Lots of people I interact with and follow are still there, and some might make accounts elsewhere, but where? And they will be in different places. So for now, it's all mostly in one place. Has nothing to do with nazis in any way.
getthismanabeer
Xhit at each of them to jump to threads or Mastodon and then peace the fuck out of there. It's not hard. You'll find them elsewhere or make new friends.
TeamRocketHR
There's no use in trying to convince the people that can't figure out users were on Twitter before it became Elon's butthole. They're high and mighty on the fact they didn't lose anything.
logicalawesomeness
Fill their site with wholesome content to teach the machines how to be better people that'll show em jeje
OctopusStinkhorn
If you’re a neonazi or white Christian nationalist it makes perfect sense.
ComradeBinch
Mainly because it has minute by minute news informations by actual on the ground journalists, if you know where to find them
HeyMcFly6
Alot of artists still use it due to it being the majority of their viewerbase and how they make any sort of income. Twitter is how many get any exposure at all. Many once great art platforms now enforce ai training off of peoples art, whether they like it or not. Like 99% of these artists do not want AI to train off of their content but feel like they have no choice but to stay if their fanbase doesn't make the switch.
HeyMcFly6
Artists have already been fighting against ai and the unethical policies being forced upon them and one very famous digital artist, Loish, literally has people generating her artstyle which also includes her signature and these people are selling it. I've seen people tell artists that when they put their work out there, its no longer their property. So, you either lose your income or let ai abuse your rights to ownership and lose income either way. Its much worse than how I described though.
HeyMcFly6
I saw an article where a Playstation CEO was complaining on how there's suddenly a lack of creativity- gee, I wonder why? I guess underpayment. Undermining and overworking artists then to tell them their artwork no longer belongs to them thanks to ai training models might have a severe impact on the content artists are willing to put out there. Ai is being used for the wrong reasons.
Temzilla
A number of people use twitter because it's the largest platform of it's kind, and their job is getting as many eyes on their other content as possible.
PatThaiCM
Good for finding local hookers
djangojazz
Right wing or addict
ImRodAndILikeToParty
The same reason why some people stay at the party until 4-7am. They are hatefully lonely and this is where everyone was just a moment ago, even if it isn't where they are now.
skahammer
Well that one went hard.
MrRandom314159
Porn
mellowfish
There are (positive, wholesome) communities there that don’t exist (at nearly the same scale) elsewhere. It’s where many of “my people” are at, and as long as I can see my feed of my people, it’s a good experience.
HaveANiceFace
If community is what you're after, discord is great for that.
BayazTheBenevolent
Pure addiction. I bet they would get shakes if they don't check their Twitter every half hour.
jayman0123
Well if this TOS is accurate, artists will start leaving Twitter soon since that last one basically says we own any art you upload and plan to train our AIs on it
wobblecopterrrr
it was a pretty weird platform from day one, like.. who wants to to share a message board with their extended families, and a bunch of random try hard politicians?..
nutmegonyourdoodle
High strangeness there.
danwhitcongress
99.9% of those politicians won't even respond to you because they don't handle their own social media, interns do.
kiukkuinenkissa
With the messages limited to original SMS length. Ridiculous. That was my main issue with it. It was never a good platform for socialising, more for brief status updates. ("Service down for maintenance for 2 hrs, be patient!", "Next version of a thing out on [date]!")
SteveMcCroskey
Apparently many people
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
There were some good years before celebrities and politicians showed up.
focusingblur
Yes! Hated Twitter from day one, and hated watching it become so all-encompassing. Not a fan of the Musk but at least he managed to scuttle that awful site.
Tumescentpie
I can only think of two reasons.
1. They are a nazi. Twitter is owned by a nazi simp (leon). And has unbanned nazis and pedos.
2. They are okay with nazis.
That is it. Anyone with other reasons, must also be either 1 or 2 as well.
dingo8yrbaby
I have a 3rd reason: To see which of your friends/relatives are Nazis. I was shocked a few years ago to hear a cousin take an anti-abortion stance. According to her, white people are dying off faster than they can be replaced and she blames abortion. She wants it abolished - but only for white people. She's still in favor of black/brown people getting abortions, however.
She has never said this out loud at family gatherings. It was only on social media that I learned this about her.
Eschscholtzia
Some countries with lesser free speech use social medias, and mainly twitter unfortunately, as a way to get less politically biaised news. Some parts of the world are too poor to care about how bad musk is.
Tumescentpie
Which is still #2.
RaspK
If you don't want their excuses, but the truth thereof: a) being used to it; b) too attached to their contact; c) Sunk Cost Fallacy.
Maverickaura
Also the fact many people had relied on it for their jobs. Artists, musicians, celebrities, anyone at all who needs to stay in the public eye to make income and already had the followers there. Msny have been TRYING to migrate their accounts, but not even bluesky offers the sane user experience and as such, they simply cannot get traction on any other sites. So they stay there, which feedback loops to their fans staying there with them, which feedback loops to the artist staying. So on.
SlyMrFox
Yup. I'm an artist. I'm small time, but adding more accounts to my list of accounts is annoying and feels like too much work.
RaspK
Yeah, I was not including professionals there, but you are quite right about that vicious cycle.
Maverickaura
Same* user experience. Phone's autocorrect just makes up context.
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
Yeah, at this point the sole reason I use Twitter is because it's the best way to keep in touch with an artist I really like to commission work from. That's it. They ever announce a BlueSky and I'll bail
Maverickaura
It would take X doing somthing that hurts artists worse than cutting off their nose to spite their face, to get a proper mass exodus. Fortunately E seems to be happy to try and give them that thing.
painstream
I must have added 25-30 art accounts to my BSky list in the past 2 days. The forced-AI participation ticked off a lot of artists.
Maverickaura
Another reason why fans stay is also because artists aren't a hivemind and whole most migrate to bsky, not ALL of them do. Furry artists might migrate to furaffinity or 621, anime to pixiv or any of the numerous boros, photography back to Instagram, nsfw even softcore to hard porn sites because of lack of alternatives, musicians to soundcloud or YouTube. Fans don't like having to suddenly make accounts in 50 different places when before they could find all of them on x before.
RaspK
I used to be a mod in a fairly large forum; when a certain decision was unilaterally taken by the person backing the whole project, the userbase was splintered into 3 major new forums. For various reasons, some people picked one or more of the newer forums, while others picked different ones. Others just disappeared. Some of us tried, but eventually faded from the community.
All in all, it's just "not the same" regardless.
JuicyHorseMuff
I just use it for porn. *shrug*
theworldcouldbeflat
Porn that pays for Elon's crazy...
jayman0123
That will change too. It appears they want to own any content users upload outright wholesale and intend on training their AIs on it.
JuicyHorseMuff
😢
JuicyHorseMuff
They're gonna train their AI's on videos of me slinging web??
jayman0123
I didn't say they were smart.
keoghberry
You made me spittake my tea from laughing
OffTheGrid99
You’re keeping the platform alive for nazis
johnnymcnasty
Reddit is far better, take it from an avid...researcher.🤓
JuicyHorseMuff
I use one reddit account for it as well
LateNightBunnyParty
There are plenty of non-fascist places to get porn. Shitty excuse. Get off twitter.
JuicyHorseMuff
You, sir/ma'am/whomever, have no say in my spankbank refills. Good day.
CleverlyReferencedThing
That's where all the artists are, some have moved to bluesky etc but all main content from them and the best way to find new ones is on Twitter. Aside from that on the non-explicit side of Twitter I've heard arguments (and I would agree) that while Elon owns Twitter, it already was a community of people and they aren't going to leave because that jackass owns it now. There's a reason we all still call it Twitter and not x, the community is separate from the company if that makes sense
mastikator
*Mark Robinson enters the porn comment section with nazi propaganda*
Evillairforrent
'I came here to watch people fuck, not watch you fuck over others, you lame excuse of a post-natal abortion'
KRHo
I think they are getting off twitter heyo!
Driftkingpanda
I was just about to comment this so much porn.
CaptainWeaselFox
Where is this "porn" so i can "stay away" from it
JuicyHorseMuff
s_a_i_n_t_ is a good one. But really, you just type in whatever you're looking for and it'll pop up
CaptainWeaselFox
What a world we live in today. Ive always used xxnx for like 20 years now
Driftkingpanda
Thank you
InfocalypseRising
Addiction/inertia. That’s it.
Senderoth
More like popularity. Like Apple products, people will use it because others are using it.
Squantoon
Eh. While I haven't engaged on Twitter in a long time it is still kind of the single best place for indie game news and to learn about upcoming games tbh
theworldcouldbeflat
Indie games are good but kids dying at school...
DonutTramp
It absolutely is not. Both Reddit and Steam are far better at that. If you follow indie developers on twitter you could just as well follow them on other sites since no developers can publish any game on twitter itself, they must be using other media. Shit excuse
TwoNineSix
Lmao, that's the worst reason I've seen yet. There are approximately eleventy billion places online to find gaming news, including indies.
nutmegonyourdoodle
Well invent a new doucheless platform for your indie gaming news. There must be a different info stream for this. Reject the nonsense and something better may come along. That’s innovation.
DonutTramp
There are, it's such a bad argument that he probably is a Musk apologist.
TexMexHex
Thats a pretty feeble minded excuse.
LadyNetrex
Lots of people I interact with and follow are still there, and some might make accounts elsewhere, but where? And they will be in different places. So for now, it's all mostly in one place. Has nothing to do with nazis in any way.
khora
It's hard to force other people, who's content you like to see, to move from twitter.
FloodingWaters
It's from a feeble minded society
Kirj4v4
Not if your revenues depend on it. Loads of content creators might struggle to rebuild their base elsewhere.
TexMexHex
And? Do something else. I have had 3 successful careers that didnt depend on internet likes. This is also a shit excuse
Luxweaver
Ok boomer.
Asaltycashew
You just said, "Stop being poor." Who are you? Paris Hilton?