
thecauseman
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Starting at the end. Finished these is spring of ‘19. I used celestion 21” drivers. Cabinets are walnut burl veneer.

Nail down those designs in digital first!

These fixtures are for laminating the side panels. I wanted the curvature on the sides to match the Tannoy mains. If you know of Tannoy high end audio... then you know.

Laser cut a template for accurately marking the sides.

All 4 sides laminated 25mm thick Baltic birch.

The entire cabinet is 25mm Baltic birch.

Laser cut and threaded mounting plate for the subwoofer mounting attached to the back of the front baffle plate.

There’s never enough clamps.

Viking for scale.

Test fit driver... mostly for fun.

Lots of spline sanding to get the sides ready for veneer.

25 coats of black polyurethane on top, back and bottom. Lots of sanding between coats. Looking for that mirror finish.

Front and sides are cut from a single 4x8 book matched piece of walnut veneer.

Then poly. Lots and lots of poly. Then sanding. Then more poly.

Looks good...

But it could be better. At this point there was a total of 75 clear coats of poly.

Time to break out the wet sanding and buffing.

Wet sand 400, 600, 900, man my arms are tired. 2000 then 3000. Then buff with high abrasive cutting then swirl remover then polish... now some wax.

Gotta get that mirror

Ready to assemble.

edit for autocorrect: portedcabinets get thoroughly lined with absorption material.

Now the metal. Custom grills made from 10g steel laser cut and tig welded together.

Ready for powder coat

First coat of powder is chrome. Second coat is black chrome.

All the steel bits. Grills, terminal plates, isolation discs(top sub) and port fins.

Black chrome looks good.

Port fins prevent cats from climbing in. Shaped so that air makes no noise in passing.

High current terminals with ground.

Braided cables for high gauge and flexibility.

Spikes on the bottom to seat the sub directly to the concrete and level.

All assembled in their current home. Build time was 6 months.

Driven with dual amps @ 1600w RMS each. That’s mostly about maintaining quality at moderate listening levels though. It has been mind blowing getting this dialed in. My personal audiophile heaven.
copingcabana
I have the same in blue. Only they're useless washing machines
sreenivas9
Beautiful piece of art
8C024JIY562DPGT
I just don’t have the words to express my admiration for your design and execution. Your craftsmanship is beyond extraordinary. Superb!
CheeseAndMustard
Beautiful!!! Maybe stupid question: dont the drivers reach out (when powered highly)until they touch the grills in front of them?
Silkyninja1
I thought that was a crazy washer dryer combo
Jamerperson
Glad I'm not the only one.
yOuShOuLdPiCkAuNiQuEuSeRNaMe
Brav-fucking-O!! Great build. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. My personal dream is to build a subwoofer/coffee table.
AgathaRogue41
ElectroVoice made a 30" dia. Sub & published cab specs, i never felt it tho, beautiful work! I use to build monster systems for NYC clubs..
Tankadin37
When you absolutely, positively HAVE to blow the roof off the place.
defaultuser01
Recently got a dual 18" 4300w subwoofer. Didn't respect it at first giving it a test. Almost broke glass... at my neighbor's place.
Tankadin37
Holy hell man! Hahahaha, yeah that'd do it!
duncancomics
Does it wash the shirts well?
sqweek
They are f'king beautiful. Well done.
xbolt
thecauseman
Yes... just like this. I’m guessing you noticed the guitars on the far left.
theguywiththevoice
Only the bottom on is a sub woofer. The one on top is the Dom woofer.
thecauseman
It’s a power bottom though.
theguywiththevoice
Niiiiice
AgentGruber
Cl1tC0mmander
aleksag
Them Tannoys tho
thecauseman
Yes! Someone mistook them for B&W earlier... I was wounded;)
aleksag
DC10s ?
thecauseman
Yep. DC -10A. Alninco
aleksag
I wish i could own something like that one day! Great job with the build btw =)
ButterfaceTaintClown
aren't they too close to the walls? why stack them? surely you want them paired to the ground? they look amazing though...
Everydayisbbqday
Actually to a wall is good for free room gain. +3Db per surface. So free 9Db :)
thecauseman
Not too close. That’s a room by room variable. Stacking is a space consideration. Given the construction, no downside except lifting.
ButterfaceTaintClown
how much power is driving them?
userfriendly19777
DarthVaderBanana
I'm drooling over your Tanoys. Supertweeters too.
thecauseman
It’s very rare to find someone who understands Tannoy. Clearly you know;)
CMDRWELLES
does it go to 11?
evilcarp
Are you my downstairs neighbor?
TatersWhatsTatersPrecious
Dayum what's the frequency response? I bet you feel them in your bones.
ArcaneConjecture
Whales can hear it, lol.
NRubric
On the other side of the world!
J0NY5
So can Wales
negronamedcolbs
airforceteacher
That is seriously impressive work.
nenotlep
It boom?
Sooner70
Have you measured the resonant frequency?
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
25 coats? Who has time for twenty-fi... SEVENTYFUCKINGFIVE?
TheCyclingEngineer
6 month build so yea
RabidDingo
75 coats at a minimum is a month and a half. But I bet drying time wasn't half-assed either.
thecauseman
Ya have to let it get dry enough to sand. If you don’t have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over ;)
ZaphodFeebleDrox
I use a can of spray paint when I need to paint something. Sometimes I'll even finish the can.
CaptinQwark
I had to scroll back up to re-read 25. Then I saw the 75 and my brain fell out thinking of the drying time.
thecauseman
It was the look I wanted;). If you look at my other projects you’ll see I don’t like to go halfway.
sjei282btsbsa828ehehth5he7s72727agsv2ya7a8aaksj4jr8r8d
Love the craftsmanship, just curious how the sound pressure levels will be handled you might have a lot of clarity issues with 2
dadsouza
That is some spectacular woodworking, not to mention audio engineering. What brand drivers did you use and what are you using to drive them?
sarahpIs
Couple of Qs from an audio eng - what's the port tuning frequency on those? Why go with 21" drivers - surely you're losing a lot of 1/?
sarahpIs
transient punch over say, a dual 10/12/15" setup? And please, especially if they're rear-ported, get them out of the corner of the room! :-)
mangrovia
Presumably @OPs running some bass tuning and room correction software here?
thecauseman
Ok, 12hz. I know the conventional wisdom is 12/15” hit harder. Simply not true if done right. Not my first rodeo;), done lots of 21’s
thecauseman
To the corner... each of the ports is also bung’ed with 4” of reticulate foam. Ports are for tuning, not extra organ pipe.
thecauseman
I know you’re not just throwing that out there Willy nilly, but this is the best placement for this room. This room is also only for now.
sarahpIs
IMO, it depends on amplification. It's easier to move a smaller magnet faster, but if you've got a powerful enough amp that can switch fast
Blackistan
fuuuuuccck yooooouuuu. how much for one please
thecauseman
I’m known for giving fuck you pricing to people... very intuitive of you;)
Blackistan
ball so hard. but seriously I'm in love
JesusHimself69
Cool! But doesnt stacking them hurt the sound quality by vibrating the chassis? Is separate them to prevent interference
gamerCommentVillain
you're talking about speakers playing soundwaves 20ft+ long. Its fine.
thecauseman
The chassis don’t vibrate. They are the calmest thing in the room. By design.
dashers
How about room modes?
DasPumpenStrasse
Why not closed design?
thecauseman
In less than 140 characters... tuned to 12hz. ;)
DasPumpenStrasse
Close them :) I've been using ported SWs whole life and they are good OFC but closed is really much faster and more precise
thecauseman
Oh, just staap. Can’t make a statement like that without a thorough understanding of the complete design.
Scuttlebutte
Oh god :O
worldwidewang
Don’t know shoot about this. Why wouldn’t you separate them? Or need more than 1? But sweet work, it looks awesome.
ArcaneConjecture
Humans can't tell the direction of very low sounds. So you can put subwoofers anywhere and not mess up the stereo effect.
thecauseman
The digital processing of channel mixing starts to effect upper frequencies.
thecauseman
Each sub carries the frequencies of left or right channel. Depending upon the DSP $quality, this is the first ding against channel sep
einthedog2
Beautiful, shouldn't these be placed apart?
Bonsaipanda
I would just use one for the pressure and place ceramic elements under the seats for the actual bass.
Everydayisbbqday
Pressure ? Thats just spl. At low frequencies. Shakers dont do audiable frequencies. They literally shake a weight on a piston axis.
Bonsaipanda
Well, works at my house, sub throwing the 120-50 you feel in the chest and the ceramics shake the 50-15 so you feel it in your body.
duhleted
Yes, they should. (Used to build home theaters)
bloodust
Once he finishes the 2nd set for a smooth 2x2 sub conf :D
chrishallett83
Only if you're running stereo subwoofers, in mono it's more compact to stack them.
einthedog2
https://www.gikacoustics.com/room-setup-speaker-placement-201-part-two-subwoofers/
einthedog2
Even if its mono, combats the rooms effects on sound
chrishallett83
That all depends on the room itself, and this guy's personal setup.
mangrovia
The current trend is yes, but it's not a huge difference. You'll get a bit more even sound if they're spread across the room.
mangrovia
However, if you're thinking this you're likely thinking room acoustics and that's a whole rabbit hole... Just turn it up and enjoy it.
einthedog2
That's what I was thinking, if you have two makes sense to just spread it
AmbroseGudmaker
They're subs, bass isn't really directional as far as humans are concerned. It's the mids and treble that matter for stereo/surround
ZharTheMad
I actually moved to a true stereo sub setup a few years ago. Single biggest upgrade I've ever done to my setup. Alot of things in audio 1/2
ZharTheMad
Are just "known". I've found that actually testing them for yourself has resulted in some fun learnings, and lots of music ?
einthedog2
I know that still whats the point on having two then
einthedog2
https://www.gikacoustics.com/room-setup-speaker-placement-201-part-two-subwoofers/
thecauseman
It’s on the internet so it must be true
einthedog2
So edgy
deespek
More. More everything.
chrishallett83
Sound quality - oriented drivers typically don't have much excursion - they're the opposite of typical car subwoofers that drive in and (1)
chrishallett83
out, so if you want to shift a large volume of air (and get that gut-busting bass you can feel in your bones) you double up. (fin)
doctorwoohoo
sq car audio. Single coil Infinity Beta subs are divine. https://manuals.harman.com/INF/CAR/Boxes%20and%20Parameters/BETA15X.pdf
chrishallett83
Very few people build SQL car audio systems, though. At least, not back when I was in the scene in the 90s and 00s.
doctorwoohoo
Low frequencies are not directional. I used to know the range for directional hz, but I am old. I think its above 200hz
einthedog2
I know they are still directional just less, whats the point of having 2 then?
einthedog2
https://www.gikacoustics.com/room-setup-speaker-placement-201-part-two-subwoofers/
DishonestYetAccurateIncidentReportingSystem
Depending on room, might even out response - likely this, as custom setup. Volume-wise two identical speakers only raise max level by 3dB.
Everydayisbbqday
Stacking makes them more directional because you're creating an array. its under 50hz where you can start to claim omnidirectional response
dropbear128
In technical terms, more umph!
einthedog2
Cant argue with that
doctorwoohoo
Stereo?
einthedog2
He wouldnt really get any stereo out of it if its the same location
doctorwoohoo
Its a lot less especially of they are isolated properly. Lots of time what people are hearing ‘directionally is the vibrations from the box.
doctorwoohoo
Especially if he is directing like 85hz down.
martineb72
Since he has 2 of them it would be best to put them in stereo mode for any harmonies that escape the above 100hz. If he has the room for it.
mangrovia
Presumably he would need to run discreet crossovers per channel or maybe his amp splits the signal?
mangrovia
I've yet to see pure audio sources with dedicated L/R LFE channels. It's always 7-whatever and 1 bass. Unless there's a new format out now?
Everydayisbbqday
9.4.2 Dolby Atmos
mangrovia
Your comment made me do some research and as far as I can tell the extra .2 or .4 or more sub channels are still just the same mono LFE
Everydayisbbqday
Its standing waves you want to try to minimise. Not harmonics.
duhleted
Bass traps
hajimedj
Your neighbours, your neighbour's neighbours and your neighbour's neighbour's neighbours must love them
ThoseDamnDirtyHumans70
What????
HalfLeif
/a/L95UMH5
thecauseman
I promise I don’t terrorize the hood. This is in a basement with concrete outside walls.
DarthFluffyBottom
In California, that would measure around scale 4.
Emulen
Nothing subpar about that comment
RepetitiveStrainInjury
Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point....
SwiftyRich
Neighbours hate him, click here to find out why.
NRubric
Which neighbours? The whole neighbourhood has already been leveled by those super-BOOMers!
jdm2
I’m surprised his house is still standing. Maybe he didn’t turn on the sub yet.
FurtiveGlancer
In California, there are called the quakers
CrimeBrulee
Really disappointed this comment isn't about the Matrix.
WhoNeedsToiletPaperAnywayEh
Even I love them. And I'm in Germany.
ThisAintASurfinMovie
Der war gut.
HaroldLoveggs
You can hear them in Germany?! Dang!
SnarfyMcSnarferson
I have neighbors just about on all sides of me that have these, in their hoopty cars, I love em SoOoOo much
luciferian669
My neighbour has me saved is his phone as noise terrorist and thats just from 300w amps
fearandloathinginaz
300 watts somehow sounds as loud in a house as 3000 in my vehicle.
octosocks
You're probably making people's lives miserable
IMayNotReplyToYou
Nice
TheCoachAdair
Rock and roll ain’t noise pollution.
HaroldLoveggs
It is if it’s not your choice.
TheCoachAdair
Rock and roll’s just rock and roll.
TheCoachAdair
https://youtu.be/X_IWlPHMziU