Jun 21, 2021 11:34 AM
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Ruik
A 7-11 nearby closed down and the guy in charge says it's because of the government enablers. No, it's cuz you guys hatefuck your employees.
TheVoiceOfMorganFreeman
Minimum Wage: If we could pay you less we would.
SonderingStrike
I have a solution for then, rather than dropping the unemployment benefits, how about they go with the free market and increase wages
londonosierra2000
The US is in decay, cuz we keep electing conservatives bought by foreign corporations!
SmokyDoggg
It's painfully obvious our leaders have forgotten what it's like to put in 40 hours for minimum wage.
Daarst
There are people in my state crowing that the labor shortage is because people are getting paid more on unemployment. The DLR reported >>
>> that only 1500 people in the state are still getting COVID relief unemployment. But people are still blaming "free money"
SpartaWolf117
"Our corporate handlers don't want us to help people."
zfournier16
Because we are slaves living in a prison where you cant see the bars or touch them but they are there
fbutt09
+1 for “corporate handlers”
duoplicity
Then we should give them more to work Tim Scott
justplainvanilla
myneighborsdogspersonisadiiiiiiiiiiick
Hold up - this implies that minimum wage is enough to live on. It isn’t. You need at least two or three minimum wages to live.
CorneliusCornwall
Heard folks say "no one wants to work cause they make more on unemployment, but my husband cant find a job that pays enough. It's not right"
Notfunnycommenter
Remember true Repub family values include your 6 year old working in a coal mine
Respectablecrazy
"The poors never know how to budget."
IWasACatAllAlong
They prefer having homeless people, because they aren't getting money.
TexMexHex
Republicans think normal folks be like
FetaForMoses
I worked 60h a week just to barely get by while my boss came to work in a Lamborghini. Not to work of course, getting a free meal.
evilcarp
Worked for a company where a good chunk of our yearly pay was a Christmas bonus. Owner proceeded to show of new Vette and no bonus.
pdxenburg
When people question any money our company is making, I tell them the boss's jet and Porsche collections don't pay for themselves.
STEVIERAYK
A black republican LOL!
galll11
We cannot encourage people making millions from corporate handouts and lobbying to represent the American people and what's best for us all
User101iSaidUser101iS
None of us would be doing any of their mind-blowingly depressing jobs if we had actual savings and no debt. They need us on a leash.
Republican strategy is to empower employers by preserving a ready supply of desperate people willing to slave away for practically nothing.
Giving people a livable wage threatens that ready supply.
Whowhywhatwhere
I dont get how simple the solutions are, but we cant change it
afatrollofmyown
They have momentum. The system has supported them for decades. We're just waking up.
XanderCorsaj
"We're so short-sighted that we don't realise if people don't have spare money, they can't afford our shit"
Yep. Again, there're always those who disagree with a sensible, fair and good life for all. They never respond. That probably speaks louder.
If you don't have spare money, their shit is all you can afford
RevolutionOnHerLips
Ah, the Wal-Mart business model!
I wonder what their excuse is gonna be when ending unemployment benefits doesn't solve the problem?
SnowmanHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
The problem for them, is unemployment. They need a slave force to power the empires of the 1%, and it will never be enough
The area's sounding Phoenix have always used immigrants for certain jobs. Like McDonalds. There are plenty of other jobs to be had.
Ximinipot
What a shocking surprise that Senator Tim Scott is a Republican. /s
SimonHK
If you own a business and you pay people less than a living wage, then you don't own a viable business.
FDR intensifies.
Shaodyn
40% of available jobs don't meet the average unemployment of $750/week. We don't have a labor shortage, we have a living wage shortage.
ManBearPigDuck
Wow your unemployment is £40 less than my take home as IT Sytems Engineer
When people can make more money sitting at home, why would they want to go back to work?
Bhargo
that isnt even a lot of money, in a ton of areas that isnt even enough for rent and food
I did specify it was the AVERAGE unemployment. Meaning it's more in some places and less in others.
callmethelizardqueen
Last yr with the extra $600 UE in my state was equal to $20 an hr. Not a living wage shortage when that's what I made after college & 20 yrs
Experience.
CaptainThePirate
If we made everything robots and nobody had to work literally at all and I know that’s virtually impossible but if we did would that be bad?
The people putting the capital up to make the robots would reap all the benefits
dwarfinaflask87
Depends. The question is how to fairly distribute products and services when only a minority has to work to keep things running? Who is (1)
owning the means of (automated) production? The answers will decide if the outcome will be bad or good.
Justsomedude223
Tim Scott is right. People shouldn't make more money in unemployment. So let's raise our horrid low wages to something you can live off.
If your position is three letters and starts with a C your multi million dollar bonus of top of multi million salary can be cut to make due.
Nobody loses since you're probably already so rich the world will end before your kids kids kids kids can use your wealth.
dmrynaski1776
Perhaps we should have a maximum wage.
LaffertyDanie1
If you think wages are the biggest contributor to wealth disparity you're missing the point, no one ever became a billionaire on salary.
BetterDemosthenes
They will work around it somehow. For example, often the bulk of CEO income comes from stock grants and options. Also big "expense" funds.
Wealth tax.
Bezos salary is $80k/yr. They will find ways around it.
Skywatcher16
link it to a percentage of the minimum
idrinkandiknowthings3
Recall: the $600 additional weekly unemployment payment was on top of other insurance. $600 is what one makes $15/hr 40 hrs/week. 1/2
2/2 So the 600 additional was necessarily giving people more than their living wage, and had nothing to do with cost of living
In Oregon, you could make $5k/month on unemployment
But let's continue this narrative that this is good and essential
It's not. Safety nets are back stops - not rewards. I'd rather save the resources to expand them to more people as needed.
LifeConfessionguy1
Raise the pay. Companies need workers and if none show up they will raise the pay or close the doors
The labor market takes time to adjust, even in these circumstances a matter of months is very fast.
Ozzy98
Yeah often times change, even good change, has costs that take time. I'm not a fan of abrupt changes unless well planned.
When we are talking about such vast and complex systems idk if we'll planned abrupt change exists. Comes back to point A, change takes time.
I get downvoted often for this comment, but closing the doors does not help the people working there, it hurts them a lot. When people say
they're fine with a place closing, it seems their goal isn't helping the workers like they same, but to lash out at the rich. Which is ok,
but not at the expense of the people working for them.
morelikeconsham
That's called growing pains. Yeah, it will suck, but eventually someone who will pay a living wage will fill the gap. The fact that our
abusers have made us dependent on them isn't a good reason to keep them around.
VoxMortuis
People aren't outright saying the place should close. They're saying if they aren't willing to pay their workers right they deserve to close
I know, but I'm saying,the people working those jobs, wouldn't want that. Some want us to boycott places, not thinking boycotts hurt workers
Ruik
A 7-11 nearby closed down and the guy in charge says it's because of the government enablers. No, it's cuz you guys hatefuck your employees.
TheVoiceOfMorganFreeman
Minimum Wage: If we could pay you less we would.
SonderingStrike
I have a solution for then, rather than dropping the unemployment benefits, how about they go with the free market and increase wages
londonosierra2000
The US is in decay, cuz we keep electing conservatives bought by foreign corporations!
SmokyDoggg
It's painfully obvious our leaders have forgotten what it's like to put in 40 hours for minimum wage.
Daarst
There are people in my state crowing that the labor shortage is because people are getting paid more on unemployment. The DLR reported >>
Daarst
>> that only 1500 people in the state are still getting COVID relief unemployment. But people are still blaming "free money"
SpartaWolf117
"Our corporate handlers don't want us to help people."
zfournier16
Because we are slaves living in a prison where you cant see the bars or touch them but they are there
fbutt09
+1 for “corporate handlers”
duoplicity
Then we should give them more to work Tim Scott
justplainvanilla
myneighborsdogspersonisadiiiiiiiiiiick
Hold up - this implies that minimum wage is enough to live on. It isn’t. You need at least two or three minimum wages to live.
CorneliusCornwall
Heard folks say "no one wants to work cause they make more on unemployment, but my husband cant find a job that pays enough. It's not right"
Notfunnycommenter
Remember true Repub family values include your 6 year old working in a coal mine
Respectablecrazy
"The poors never know how to budget."
IWasACatAllAlong
They prefer having homeless people, because they aren't getting money.
TexMexHex
Republicans think normal folks be like
FetaForMoses
I worked 60h a week just to barely get by while my boss came to work in a Lamborghini. Not to work of course, getting a free meal.
evilcarp
Worked for a company where a good chunk of our yearly pay was a Christmas bonus. Owner proceeded to show of new Vette and no bonus.
pdxenburg
When people question any money our company is making, I tell them the boss's jet and Porsche collections don't pay for themselves.
STEVIERAYK
A black republican LOL!
galll11
We cannot encourage people making millions from corporate handouts and lobbying to represent the American people and what's best for us all
User101iSaidUser101iS
None of us would be doing any of their mind-blowingly depressing jobs if we had actual savings and no debt. They need us on a leash.
User101iSaidUser101iS
Republican strategy is to empower employers by preserving a ready supply of desperate people willing to slave away for practically nothing.
User101iSaidUser101iS
Giving people a livable wage threatens that ready supply.
Whowhywhatwhere
I dont get how simple the solutions are, but we cant change it
afatrollofmyown
They have momentum. The system has supported them for decades. We're just waking up.
XanderCorsaj
"We're so short-sighted that we don't realise if people don't have spare money, they can't afford our shit"
XanderCorsaj
Yep. Again, there're always those who disagree with a sensible, fair and good life for all. They never respond. That probably speaks louder.
pdxenburg
If you don't have spare money, their shit is all you can afford
RevolutionOnHerLips
Ah, the Wal-Mart business model!
evilcarp
I wonder what their excuse is gonna be when ending unemployment benefits doesn't solve the problem?
SnowmanHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
The problem for them, is unemployment. They need a slave force to power the empires of the 1%, and it will never be enough
evilcarp
The area's sounding Phoenix have always used immigrants for certain jobs. Like McDonalds. There are plenty of other jobs to be had.
Ximinipot
What a shocking surprise that Senator Tim Scott is a Republican. /s
SimonHK
If you own a business and you pay people less than a living wage, then you don't own a viable business.
afatrollofmyown
FDR intensifies.
Shaodyn
40% of available jobs don't meet the average unemployment of $750/week. We don't have a labor shortage, we have a living wage shortage.
ManBearPigDuck
Wow your unemployment is £40 less than my take home as IT Sytems Engineer
Shaodyn
When people can make more money sitting at home, why would they want to go back to work?
Bhargo
that isnt even a lot of money, in a ton of areas that isnt even enough for rent and food
Shaodyn
I did specify it was the AVERAGE unemployment. Meaning it's more in some places and less in others.
callmethelizardqueen
Last yr with the extra $600 UE in my state was equal to $20 an hr. Not a living wage shortage when that's what I made after college & 20 yrs
callmethelizardqueen
Experience.
CaptainThePirate
If we made everything robots and nobody had to work literally at all and I know that’s virtually impossible but if we did would that be bad?
pdxenburg
The people putting the capital up to make the robots would reap all the benefits
dwarfinaflask87
Depends. The question is how to fairly distribute products and services when only a minority has to work to keep things running? Who is (1)
dwarfinaflask87
owning the means of (automated) production? The answers will decide if the outcome will be bad or good.
Justsomedude223
Tim Scott is right. People shouldn't make more money in unemployment. So let's raise our horrid low wages to something you can live off.
Justsomedude223
If your position is three letters and starts with a C your multi million dollar bonus of top of multi million salary can be cut to make due.
Justsomedude223
Nobody loses since you're probably already so rich the world will end before your kids kids kids kids can use your wealth.
dmrynaski1776
Perhaps we should have a maximum wage.
LaffertyDanie1
If you think wages are the biggest contributor to wealth disparity you're missing the point, no one ever became a billionaire on salary.
BetterDemosthenes
They will work around it somehow. For example, often the bulk of CEO income comes from stock grants and options. Also big "expense" funds.
afatrollofmyown
Wealth tax.
pdxenburg
Bezos salary is $80k/yr. They will find ways around it.
Skywatcher16
link it to a percentage of the minimum
idrinkandiknowthings3
Recall: the $600 additional weekly unemployment payment was on top of other insurance. $600 is what one makes $15/hr 40 hrs/week. 1/2
idrinkandiknowthings3
2/2 So the 600 additional was necessarily giving people more than their living wage, and had nothing to do with cost of living
pdxenburg
In Oregon, you could make $5k/month on unemployment
idrinkandiknowthings3
But let's continue this narrative that this is good and essential
pdxenburg
It's not. Safety nets are back stops - not rewards. I'd rather save the resources to expand them to more people as needed.
LifeConfessionguy1
Raise the pay. Companies need workers and if none show up they will raise the pay or close the doors
LaffertyDanie1
The labor market takes time to adjust, even in these circumstances a matter of months is very fast.
Ozzy98
Yeah often times change, even good change, has costs that take time. I'm not a fan of abrupt changes unless well planned.
LaffertyDanie1
When we are talking about such vast and complex systems idk if we'll planned abrupt change exists. Comes back to point A, change takes time.
Ozzy98
I get downvoted often for this comment, but closing the doors does not help the people working there, it hurts them a lot. When people say
Ozzy98
they're fine with a place closing, it seems their goal isn't helping the workers like they same, but to lash out at the rich. Which is ok,
Ozzy98
but not at the expense of the people working for them.
morelikeconsham
That's called growing pains. Yeah, it will suck, but eventually someone who will pay a living wage will fill the gap. The fact that our
morelikeconsham
abusers have made us dependent on them isn't a good reason to keep them around.
VoxMortuis
People aren't outright saying the place should close. They're saying if they aren't willing to pay their workers right they deserve to close
Ozzy98
I know, but I'm saying,the people working those jobs, wouldn't want that. Some want us to boycott places, not thinking boycotts hurt workers