If it's not important to you that every stud says "LEGO", get the parts from "alternative compatible interlocking bricks" manufacturers for a fraction of the price.
The full scale Imperial Cruiser models they have put out that are to that scale, easily run $800-1000 just for the kit, before paints, knives, cutters, and glue.
To be fair he is a bit of a classic british gentleman, but also his whole collecting deal is a bit of a PTSD response to how much of his own peoples history has been lost.
It doesn't work as well as the molded pieces because it needs very tight tolerances, tuned to the elasticity of the material. Resin is the best bet but it'll take lots of tests. FDM is a non starter.
Ever wondered why cheaper building blocks don't quite snap like Lego? Tolerances, and even if you had injection machines you have to tune your molds to get the right interference for _your_ plastic so it snaps and releases well. Lego does about 5 micrometers.
But before that you have layer lines on the nubs (resin produces finer ones, but they're still there).
So go ahead, try to produce a few 2x2 bricks that mate each other with a consistent force, and look smooth.
I see the issue. I'm talking about printing Warhammer and you're talking about printing Lego. As for layer lines, it's fairly straightforward to completely eliminate them in resin with anti-aliasing methods if you know what you're doing.
Even using the most expensive consumer grade resin and taking into account failures, wastage, consumables you're looking at less than $1AUD per 32mm mini. A Sternguard Veteran squad is over $20AUD per mini, a single Terminator Captain is $77AUD. If you can't save money printing Warhammer the problem is you and not resin prices.
They aren't talking about printing warhammer minis, they're talking about printing lego pieces to then use to make warhammer things out of legos. You could just design something to look like it was make with legos and print that, sure, but building with legos is most of the fun with them.
Aye, and even if you could do it cheaply, the amount of time one would have to invest to make and clean that many LEGO pieces would far outweigh whatever trifling amount of money was saved.
This is why I like games like Space Engineers. You could build a scale model of this (not sure what scale you could use, but the engine can manage ships of a few kilometers) without anywhere near the expense of doing so out of physical materials.
1 1:1 scale of nearly any 40k ship would be practically impossible. Heck a 28mm scale to line up with the models they sell of most 40k battle cruisers would be larger than most futbol (soccer for Americans) stadiums (yes stadiums, not just the fields).
The small battleships in 40k are larger than 30 of those stadiums. The ship in the picture is meant to be Macragge's Honour and 26 kilometers (16.15 miles) long.
The smallest cruisers are 4-6km (2.5-4 miles) long.
So 28mm scale can mean all kinds of different things to different model companies and I could rant for days about how it's actually a rubbish and arbitrary "scale" but the bottom line is the way GW calculates it for their "28mm scale models" works out to roughly a 1:57 scale ratio because they measure from the sole of the shoes to the eye level of a 6 ft human and then scale that measure down to 28mm. At a 1:57 scale ratio I get a bit over 456 meters
MagnumRadhard
Sweet Jesus, it's LEGOs! https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1a2VzZHA3bDRtYnlmcm5hZHZudzB4NDh4bXN0cW9uaHRsNmJ2dnRxaCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/sHRU2mefl56BG/200w.webp
spookymormonhelldream
I often use LEGO for my DnD sessions. A lot of it scales really well
TripleDane
dont give lego more ideas... they might just do some special collecors items like this and hype the price up
MatrixDragon
Oh lord, don't give them ideas.
Zarstrum
It's just plastic. Get a 3D printer and make unlimited cheap legos
RayneOfSalt
Now load it up with Magic the Gathering cards.
Vungor
Blimjoe
Gloriana-ous
SoraHjort
... are you sure it's more expensive? Definitely not by weight I can atleast attest to that.
CandidGamera
If it's not important to you that every stud says "LEGO", get the parts from "alternative compatible interlocking bricks" manufacturers for a fraction of the price.
Hevach
Some of the better ones are not as bad as they were ten or twenty years ago but the tolerances still get really dodgy across this many pieces.
vanishing
Plastic crack made of plastic crack.
Magnar1183
Tag this retarded 40K shit!
ColmCorbec
kydn
I think that still works out cheaper than a Warlord titan from Forge World
SilentShift
I am pretty sure you could build an actual warship for less than half the Forge World lineup would cost you
thefinpope
Admittedly, that's a pretty low bar.
RalphH
i wonder if you can buy lego made out of gold ...
vilikke
Doubt the company would accept the softness of the metal. They pride themselves on extremely low tolerance for errors
RalphH
aaaand one quick google later ... kind of even original lego, but only second hand. https://brickipedia.fandom.com/wiki/14_Karat_Gold_Brick
lordnequam
So Macragge's Honor ( https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-160650/dertagedieb/warhammer-40k-macragges-honour/ ) costs €25 for the plans plus about $1,000 plus shipping for the pieces (according to the linked site and depending on what mix of stores you buy them from).
LordHosk
The full scale Imperial Cruiser models they have put out that are to that scale, easily run $800-1000 just for the kit, before paints, knives, cutters, and glue.
AgamemnonsMemes
Knives?!
LordHosk
Its a plastic model, yeah you use knives in the build to trim sprue bits.
AgamemnonsMemes
Oh i'd expect a flush cutter or nippers, i guess i'm too fancy lol
TiredSnowball
Lego?
kahooki
Give Bluebrixx a license! They fucking nailed Star Trek, do big models with good quality and don't have to suck danish cock with horrendous prices.
Vergenbuurg
My Eggo?
pothocket
LEGO, all caps.
thedewser
That will do it for sure. Just imagine what a knight would cost as a Lego model! I thought Barad'dur was expensive.
Idsertian
Never mind a knight, gimme the Invictus or the Stormherald, at 10,000+ pieces, and €1000! On second thought, maybe not...
HighSorcerer
Wait until they discontinue it and the price triples.
DrSykero
Bootleg lego.
madnessfromthesea
Found the Heretic!!
BiNorwayBoy
It belongs in a museum!.. My museum that is. Hand it over. >:3
Idsertian
Shoo, Trazyn!
Scruffy2
Found the British Museum's profile
AgamemnonsMemes
"Trazyn, no!" "Trazyn YES"
ballsoutflyer
Dammit Trazyn, not again.
ColmCorbec
DarthGoodguy
Oatmealman1
You sound like the British 🤨
Carl99
To be fair he is a bit of a classic british gentleman, but also his whole collecting deal is a bit of a PTSD response to how much of his own peoples history has been lost.
AHornyRhino
:(
yokwe
Why aren't people 3D printing this stuff
CandidGamera
No need. Enough manufacturers making "compatible interlocking bricks" of equal quality for a way lower price.
Lisekmaly
We are.
vindik8or
We absolutely are. A lot of people are realising that it's cheaper to buy an entire print setup than to by a single box.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
It doesn't work as well as the molded pieces because it needs very tight tolerances, tuned to the elasticity of the material. Resin is the best bet but it'll take lots of tests. FDM is a non starter.
vindik8or
lol, lmao even. Resin printing surpassed the quality of injection molded orginals years ago. FDM is rapidly catching up.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Ever wondered why cheaper building blocks don't quite snap like Lego? Tolerances, and even if you had injection machines you have to tune your molds to get the right interference for _your_ plastic so it snaps and releases well. Lego does about 5 micrometers.
But before that you have layer lines on the nubs (resin produces finer ones, but they're still there).
So go ahead, try to produce a few 2x2 bricks that mate each other with a consistent force, and look smooth.
vindik8or
I see the issue. I'm talking about printing Warhammer and you're talking about printing Lego. As for layer lines, it's fairly straightforward to completely eliminate them in resin with anti-aliasing methods if you know what you're doing.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Yes, I was focused on Lego. I only know about chemical smoothing and sanding, but I wasn't aware that they're using grayscale.
randomwalrus
It also is not going to save that much money. LEGO is actually fairly cheap. Something like $0.10 a piece. HQ resin is expensive.
vindik8or
Even using the most expensive consumer grade resin and taking into account failures, wastage, consumables you're looking at less than $1AUD per 32mm mini. A Sternguard Veteran squad is over $20AUD per mini, a single Terminator Captain is $77AUD. If you can't save money printing Warhammer the problem is you and not resin prices.
OlderThanTime
They aren't talking about printing warhammer minis, they're talking about printing lego pieces to then use to make warhammer things out of legos. You could just design something to look like it was make with legos and print that, sure, but building with legos is most of the fun with them.
randomwalrus
Aye, and even if you could do it cheaply, the amount of time one would have to invest to make and clean that many LEGO pieces would far outweigh whatever trifling amount of money was saved.
KainLamond
You want to really sink your money in it, making a 1:1 scale model.
Idontneedrealfacts
And functional
ColmCorbec
3Davideo
This is why I like games like Space Engineers. You could build a scale model of this (not sure what scale you could use, but the engine can manage ships of a few kilometers) without anywhere near the expense of doing so out of physical materials.
hotaru251
out of metal legos 3d printed
OhIfIMust
Hell, even Epic scale would be enormous.
Vebrandsson
1 1:1 scale of nearly any 40k ship would be practically impossible. Heck a 28mm scale to line up with the models they sell of most 40k battle cruisers would be larger than most futbol (soccer for Americans) stadiums (yes stadiums, not just the fields).
Hukkie
The small battleships in 40k are larger than 30 of those stadiums. The ship in the picture is meant to be Macragge's Honour and 26 kilometers (16.15 miles) long.
The smallest cruisers are 4-6km (2.5-4 miles) long.
ThanatosElNyx
With some dodgy head math and a 26km ship would scale to about 364m in 28mm, which is about 3 soccer pitches. Happy to be corrected though
Vebrandsson
So 28mm scale can mean all kinds of different things to different model companies and I could rant for days about how it's actually a rubbish and arbitrary "scale" but the bottom line is the way GW calculates it for their "28mm scale models" works out to roughly a 1:57 scale ratio because they measure from the sole of the shoes to the eye level of a 6 ft human and then scale that measure down to 28mm. At a 1:57 scale ratio I get a bit over 456 meters
ThanatosElNyx
Ah cool, so about 4 soccer pitches. I was in the ballpark 😜
Apolarbear65
That's fucked up and good to know.