So, she's bitter about finishing in the top 5 (6), and she's focused on the person with whom she tied for 5th place? Not the other 4 cis women who did better.
This might be rhetorical, but... Would she even care about this at all if she finished 3rd?
One of the lower tiers of people are those who find profit in blaming others for their failures. Im reminded of some shitbird fencer who refused to fence a transwoman despite the competition not being gendered in the first place. Did it just to try and grift people who would be too out of the loop to know that and just balk at the idea a trans woman was allowed to compete at all
But then she couldn't make the rounds on Fox news telling people how much all of it negatively effected her for life and then be embarrassed by Trump who said to her face that he could outswim her because she's a woman, just look at the size difference...
It doesn't matter. Thomas has probably been training since she was a kid, then had to swim against a Biological male? Biological males are on average bigger and stronger than biological females. Your average D1 basketball player is more athletic than the avg woman playing D1 college basketball or even in the WNBA: the women are slower and can't jump anywhere near as high as the men. Watch the Big women (centers): they're so slow and can't jump; most 7-footers playing NCAAM BB are very athletic
One funny thing is that this b-list grifter dropped out of dental school to go on the rightwing grievance circuit, only to land on stage with Trump, whereupon he claimed that, being a big strong man, he could beat her in a race.
Regardless of placing, she probably trained for many years to swim at a university and like any athlete wants to place as high as possible. This is the same as a guy at a local public pool swim meet going up against other regular weekend swimmers, then have Michael Phelps show up.
This was an all NCAA competition, literally thousands of competitors. People with trophies from this are generally of a skill to go on and become Olympic medalists, easily. They give trophies to a lot more than the top 3
High school districts onwards has metals for top 6 finishes. And at states the top 15/16 get team points since you have to qualify for the final heats.
? I was under the impression that they were both given 5th place... Making the crying and whining even more egregious when you find out that no position was actually lost.
Yup, both 5th place, but for the photoshoot right after she got to hold the #6 trophy because they didn't have 2 #5 Literally doesn't matter, but she got hella mad
This is the dumbest take I've ever heard. Just being qualified for this event is ridiculously hard to do. Nobody at that tournament is getting in participation Trophy.
Sorry, Your both right. I shouldn't downplay their accomplishment of getting to compete. It's just to me she was acting like she was robbed of a gold medal.
Because it literally pays. Did you see the story about the fencer who took a knee and refused to compete against a trans woman? She sobbed her way into the alt-right news cycle and got awarded $5,000 USD for her publicity stunt by an anti-trans group.
Its a warped mind that belives someone would spend years pumping their body full of hormones, altering it at a genetic level to some degree, just to... *checks notes* go into a door and do something villianous that the door never would have stopped them from doing and being seen as a woman would not prevent them from suffering punishment for.
The woman on the left is much larger, and still the tiny one tied for 5th. So i don’t know. The small woman’s clearly a strong swimmer, maybe it should be more of a weight or height category.
Common man. Don’t delete your comments. We’re in an echo chamber here. You don’t think trans people should be playing in their identified league. A lot of people agree and it’s nice to read something from the other side every now and then.
Being lanky is good for speed swimming, so her being taller with longer arms will be a benefit. I think she said she can't hold her breath as long post-transitioning though, which will be a deterrent.
I'm not misgendering, i'm not assuming anyone's gender as that is a personal intimate opinion that should be kept to each person's friends, lovers and spouses. I respect my friend's opinions: if my lady friend wants to be called "Richard" and wear man's clothes that's fine, i'll her "he/him" and not make a big deal out of it. But i don't care about such things with strangers, i treat people based on their sex, not gender. It's often conflated. People need to keep their intimacy to themselves.
coffeeandprozac
So, she's bitter about finishing in the top 5 (6), and she's focused on the person with whom she tied for 5th place? Not the other 4 cis women who did better.
This might be rhetorical, but... Would she even care about this at all if she finished 3rd?
Dracology
One of the lower tiers of people are those who find profit in blaming others for their failures. Im reminded of some shitbird fencer who refused to fence a transwoman despite the competition not being gendered in the first place. Did it just to try and grift people who would be too out of the loop to know that and just balk at the idea a trans woman was allowed to compete at all
ChloePrice
Middling performers of all kind love to cling to blaming minorities to substitute their lacking ability with manufactured media outrage.
youpeopledrivemenuts
There should be a third tier in sports for Trans Athletes. The way things currently stand does offer a truly competitive playing field for either one.
originalhuman
She was scum to begin with. Sue did what scum can only do
MagnumRadhard
Ain't she a Fox "News" drone now?
LurkingSarcasm
But then she couldn't make the rounds on Fox news telling people how much all of it negatively effected her for life and then be embarrassed by Trump who said to her face that he could outswim her because she's a woman, just look at the size difference...
HeadJamistan
To clarify, she only tied with Lia Thomas and there were 4 women who beat both of them. It was not a 5-way tie.
zHurk777
It doesn't matter. Thomas has probably been training since she was a kid, then had to swim against a Biological male? Biological males are on average bigger and stronger than biological females. Your average D1 basketball player is more athletic than the avg woman playing D1 college basketball or even in the WNBA: the women are slower and can't jump anywhere near as high as the men. Watch the Big women (centers): they're so slow and can't jump; most 7-footers playing NCAAM BB are very athletic
AttentionDeficitHyperDepression
5-way tie would be as amusing as it is unlikely!
Wizzbit
5 girls one thai, ill get the popcorn
pudaheh
One funny thing is that this b-list grifter dropped out of dental school to go on the rightwing grievance circuit, only to land on stage with Trump, whereupon he claimed that, being a big strong man, he could beat her in a race.
ravensdaemon
Also, creepy touched her.
pudaheh
It's almost implied if he stands next to a woman/girl under 25.
Isgrimnur
She came in tied for 5th, but was given the 6th place trophy to hold. Pettiest blond since Tom.
zHurk777
Regardless of placing, she probably trained for many years to swim at a university and like any athlete wants to place as high as possible. This is the same as a guy at a local public pool swim meet going up against other regular weekend swimmers, then have Michael Phelps show up.
Lampmonster
And they're identical.
Cyberbeni
Trophy for 6th place? What's next? Trophy for participation?
B3N15
It was the NCAA finals, just making it to that level is worth recognition
NeurodivergenceMedley
This was an all NCAA competition, literally thousands of competitors. People with trophies from this are generally of a skill to go on and become Olympic medalists, easily. They give trophies to a lot more than the top 3
Rocknswimmer116
High school districts onwards has metals for top 6 finishes. And at states the top 15/16 get team points since you have to qualify for the final heats.
Uselesstoy
? I was under the impression that they were both given 5th place... Making the crying and whining even more egregious when you find out that no position was actually lost.
Chereazi
Yup, both 5th place, but for the photoshoot right after she got to hold the #6 trophy because they didn't have 2 #5
Literally doesn't matter, but she got hella mad
neospor1n
I get why she would kinda care. But take some with the 6th then trade for more photos with the 5th
hanmerhack
Like after 3rd there just participation trophies
DrakeDoe
This is the dumbest take I've ever heard. Just being qualified for this event is ridiculously hard to do. Nobody at that tournament is getting in participation Trophy.
T410N
My hot take is having a memorial item for being a competitor is a fun idea. It’s like a badge you can show off to say you got out and did something
hanmerhack
Sorry, Your both right. I shouldn't downplay their accomplishment of getting to compete. It's just to me she was acting like she was robbed of a gold medal.
RevengeIsIceCream
Not only that! She had to WAIT for them to send her the corrected trophy for #5 as well!
KnightWithShiningCamera
GarnetCat
Transphobia is mental disease, that's why.
LordHosk
Not a lot of money to be made in professional swimming, but there is a ton of money to be made as a professional anti-trans pundit on media shows.
d3jake
Any excuse that's not admitting their own failure?
squishybaker
The grift. it pays a fucking lot.
CuteLukePatoot
Because it literally pays. Did you see the story about the fencer who took a knee and refused to compete against a trans woman? She sobbed her way into the alt-right news cycle and got awarded $5,000 USD for her publicity stunt by an anti-trans group.
KnightWithShiningCamera
Sauce would be nice
EvilEmperorXurg
https://nypost.com/2025/04/08/us-news/disqualified-female-fencer-given-courage-award-after-declining-to-fight-trans-opponent/
KnightWithShiningCamera
Your source says she got a courage award. But nothing about $5k, which I feel was your primary point. Got a source for that?
CuteLukePatoot
Sure!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/fencing-star-receives-award-and-cash-sum-after-refusing-to-face-trans-opponent/ar-AA1Cy3Fw
Prestinium
Wouldn't everyone stop arguing if they just created a non-binary division of sports?
iananimated
The percentage of people in that group or trans group are so tiny in sports it wouldn't be worth it.
Mmbear
If you listen to Fox news 40% of the population is trans when in reality it’s < 1%.
Rosenaa
40%... (I know 1%) But just think about it.... Nice !!!
iananimated
And they're only transitioning so they can follow your daughters into the women's toilets apparently.
Dracology
Its a warped mind that belives someone would spend years pumping their body full of hormones, altering it at a genetic level to some degree, just to... *checks notes* go into a door and do something villianous that the door never would have stopped them from doing and being seen as a woman would not prevent them from suffering punishment for.
Mmbear
Most the time its because they imagine people would do what they would do. Every accusation is a confession for them.
iananimated
Gotta have those boogeymen.
TheGokki
Any notable differences for swimming between men and women? Is it just general strength? He seems significantly larger than her.
TattoosAndTENS
Hey fuck you lol
crasemana
The woman on the left is much larger, and still the tiny one tied for 5th. So i don’t know. The small woman’s clearly a strong swimmer, maybe it should be more of a weight or height category.
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obviouslyrob
No, Lia Thomas is a woman.
crasemana
Common man. Don’t delete your comments. We’re in an echo chamber here. You don’t think trans people should be playing in their identified league.
A lot of people agree and it’s nice to read something from the other side every now and then.
obviouslyrob
More likely they were removed after being reported for transphobia. Anyway, I think this is a hacked account. Downvote, mute, report.
slightlybrokenegg
Cry more snowflake
obviouslyrob
Lia Thomas is a woman.
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thedudeman519
Considering they both tied for 5th place, nothing significantly notable I'd say
TheGokki
Indeed, it seems weight/height might be a better way to bracket people in swimming competitions.
EroticZombiePants
Being lanky is good for speed swimming, so her being taller with longer arms will be a benefit. I think she said she can't hold her breath as long post-transitioning though, which will be a deterrent.
thedudeman519
That's true. But I don't think the person misgendering the lady in the photo was arguing in good faith
TheGokki
I'm not misgendering, i'm not assuming anyone's gender as that is a personal intimate opinion that should be kept to each person's friends, lovers and spouses. I respect my friend's opinions: if my lady friend wants to be called "Richard" and wear man's clothes that's fine, i'll her "he/him" and not make a big deal out of it. But i don't care about such things with strangers, i treat people based on their sex, not gender. It's often conflated. People need to keep their intimacy to themselves.
PirateRubberDuck
So you think that a person's genitals are not private, but presenting as a certain gender is a private thing? That is fucking weird.
slightlybrokenegg
Well your acting like a whinny bitch so I think I’ll use those as your pronouns
thedudeman519
Is this an example of you not making a big deal out of it?