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October 10, 2008 during the presidential election.
John McCain was answering questions from the crowd.
The MAGA crowd was already silently around but McCain chose to be classy and respect his opponent instead of cheering them on.
Dustorm
This is video evidence of one decent man literally surrounded by crazy people. How is that “saner times”?
Predicto
GOP base in a nutshell. Scared ignorant resentful white people. Add in money interests and it's a super formidable coalition
IUpvoteFunnyDumps
I liked McCain. He was a decent person.
antleroid
This was when the GOP learned they couldn't win elections on decency and principles anymore...or at all. Just straight up leaned into crazy.
stoots24
Sturmdodo
"Domestic terrorists, like uh Arabs?" Dafuq? What kinda single-digit-IQ question is that?
naturenick
A question from someone from 2008 that thought anyone who was brown was a terrorist coming to get them
Redbaron1079
What a tremendous class act compared to the complete dumpster fire farce we deal with today.
WontSomeonePleaseThinkOfTheChildren
He’S aN aRaB!!
iphaze
These people did SO MUCH mental gymnastics to not say “Because he’s Black.”
FukTedCruz
One president and 4 years is all it took for these people's ideas to become mainstream. That is sort of scary.
DrewBerg
The MAGAs were always here. They just needed someone vile and shitty enough to make them feel safe enough to be out in the open.
fivefrozenfishfingers
The crowd booed him for that.
iateabagel
He was the first person I ever voted for in an election. My politics changed, but I still respect the man
WholesomePyromaniac
I disagree with some of his policies and I agree with some others, but regardless of my politics he had my respect for this.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
These sumbasses can’t even string together a coherent sentence. “He’s uh, he’s uh, he’s uh a Arab”
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Fucking face palm
HeDiedInABizarreGardeningAccident
McCain was a war mongering fraud grifter that would have spent 100 years carpet bombing the Middle East into oblivion if he could
Promethianfire
All of that simply demonstrates how much worse contemporary republicans are.
Bridgiebird
Omg I forgot what real decent politicians are like! No lies or name calling. Biden is decent but poor guy is always in between a rock and -
Bridgiebird
Hard place because of Trump and the GOP and it seems to be wearing him down. You can see he's sick of it all.
SkamanSam
I almost voted for this dude. He said he would bring troops home until about 6 weeks before the election. That turned me away.
RedSkizzers
Back when repubs were afraid to let others know of their racism. How far have we regressed?
ikindacarebutimostlydont
McCain was an evil, warmongering POS that voted in line with Trump 8/10 times. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/
ImFunnierThanYallGiveMeCreditFor
Libs rewriting history and painting old GOP as good guys is so gross and destructive.
sockmonster
He was very good at hiding behind a veneer of civility but he truly was a monster behind the facade.
PeeterGrant
trumps and jared were best buddies with the arabs and still are.
ValamirCleaver
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/less-privileged-personal-how-u-s-saudi-ties-may-soon-n1247439
PeeterGrant
precisely
bourbonandbaddecisions
The racist were there the whole time. Waiting for someone to give them a voice. Trump did just that.
bekindtoanimals
Exactly
drum4fun
Like Hitler for the anti-semites in the 1930s.
sneakinglurkingpeepingguy
ClearForks
A lot of people have been told their whole lives that they're dumb; Trump just had to tell them that they aren't dumb, but that theyre right
CrazyCatLad
As I've been saying, Obama inadvertently brought the racists back out of the woodwork and Trump built them a temple.
fivefrozenfishfingers
Trump founded his political career on racism for a reason.
naturenick
It’s why the trope of the racist Fox-loving uncle has existed way before Trump came along
Nephus
I consider him a real Republican. The nonsense we have now is so far from the original ideals, and fueled by pure insanity.
spudpicker
The only standard for being a Republican today is unquestioning fealty to Trump. Romney, Cheney, and Sessions all found out the hard way.
HeDiedInABizarreGardeningAccident
McCain voted in line with Trump 80% of the time https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/
flarflarf
yeeeeeeaah like ok but also this dude picked fucking SARAH PALIN to be his running mate so idk so much about this "last good republican" bs
spudpicker
McCain's first choice was Lieberman--a moderate Dem--but aides talked him into Palin. I wonder how that would have changed today's GOP.
Frederf
McCain introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which prevented the FCC from regulating broadband providers and enforcing net neutrality rules
flarflarf
McCain had this "maverick" reputation but he toed the GOP party line just about as much as everyone else when it came to actually voting.
Promethianfire
He didn't pick her, he gave in to pressure from the RNC and accepted her. Maybe a small difference but an important one.
flarflarf
he signed off on it so its on him.
thedudeman519
They're trying to do that spin with W Bush as well. Um no, just because Trump was a flaming diaper, doesn't excuse other admins
flarflarf
100% agree. Fuck this "GW is just chill nice dude doing paintings" bullshit, he's responsible for hundreds of thousands of dead civillians.
ISwearIHadSomethingClever
The point of the video is that he showed decency, respect, and poise while campaigning. Rather than blatant slander techniques.
flarflarf
sure. then he turns around and appoints the Worst Possible running mate
ISwearIHadSomethingClever
Again, that has nothing to do with the fact that he showed respect to his opponent.
flarflarf
his actions spoke louder than his words.
ISwearIHadSomethingClever
You do understand that these two things have nothing to do with each other right?
majortool
The leader of Canada's New Democratic Party was interrupted while speaking by a woman calling him a Muslim and a jihadist. Jagmeet Singh is
majortool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y67DnNRPszA
majortool
a Sikh. But he didn't tell her that, because there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim or an Arab. Not that I'm giving McCain shit. His
majortool
heart was absolutely in the right place and his response was amazing.
ScottishRoss
Just to think, I couldn't stand McCain for many reasons. But now I have to contend with politicians that actively revile every fibre of me.
eightyearplan
Dems weren't going to vote for McCain over Obama.. but what if? No tea party? If hillary or bernie had won.. billionaires & fox & russia..
eightyearplan
would have whipped up Qanon & 'stop the steal' & far right & trump.. but probably not if it were Romney..
eightyearplan
It would be a significant strategy change to let the big babies have a moderate R prez.. to prevent Rad right & civil war..
eightyearplan
then shift to state & city governments + organization networks.. and smaller trails of minimum wage, medical, housing, eco taxes, etc.
spudpicker
I often wonder: what if McCain had gone with his first choice and picked Lieberman--a moderate Dem--as his running mate instead of Palin?
eightyearplan
I would like to see the Parties actually doing good things with non-profit groups / networks etc. in between elections.. & then run good
eightyearplan
successful program / network coordinators.. instead of angry arguers & commercials.. So yeah, if Liberman (e.g.) were already
eightyearplan
coordinating a successful non-profit housing organization network, or whatever.. and got picked up by an R prez / coordinator..
spudpicker
McCain and Romney both seemed pretty surprised when the party they dedicated their life to showed its true colors.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
I'm convinced that the McCain team's failure to vet Palin is what eventually led to the embrace of incompetency we see today.
SomebodyGet2020APuppers
Got the impression that McCain's team didn't have much to do with choosing her. Desperate GOP ploy because they knew Obama winning.
MantisTobogganPilotMD
No they did, there's actually a really good film about it called Game Change, check it out.
BlameIt0nTibor
Hype: "exaggerated publicity; hoopla." Ok enjoy your block.
eggsinmybutt
naturenick
Pretty much this - in her you see the genesis of the whole folksy-person-who-doesn’t-know-squat-but-that’s-supposed-to-be-good thing
dogwithahumanface
I'd like to introduce you to the presidency of George W Bush.
Gma7n8Creator
I think it started with the Tea Party crap…
MantisTobogganPilotMD
they really embraced her, that's for sure. Her being on his campaign was a mistake that showed getting their votes is easy.
Promethianfire
I really wish we had McCain in 2000 rather than W. Bush. McCain is a very imperfect man, but so much better than Bush.
HeDiedInABizarreGardeningAccident
McCain would have rushed headlong into Iraq, Afghanistan and all the shit that came with it even faster than Bush did
Promethianfire
Al Gore would have too, at least with Afghanistan. Any president who didn't would have been eviscerated by both parties.
shepahrdjhon
It should have been Al Gore but Florida, as always, fucked everyone.
lncorrectGrammerNazi
As a former Floridian, I'm sorry. Hopefully they sort their shit out. I'm done with them now, though.
Promethianfire
Sure, but baring that, I think McCain would still have been far better than Bush.
AlmightyThor117
Like that woman can read…. She didn’t read shit about Obama, she can barely even form fucking sentences to even speak
CrazyCatLad
She probably was nervous speaking in front of a crowd and saying the silent part out loud wasn't normalized yet by Trump.
thedudeman519
This was probably in her head "Hes a....n..... a.towe..... a samd.... Arab ".
ShamaOA
If you don't bother yourself to try and understand indoctrination how can you begin to counter it?
Multipew
To be fair if you put most people (me included) in front of that many strangers and give them a microphone, they won't form sentences.
Sremmos
Well she can read. She can’t critically process what she reads tho.
bubbawasmybestgoodfriend
Obama spoke at his funeral, and Trump wasn't invited. Think about that
ikindacarebutimostlydont
Must be bad when someone isn't invited to a warmongers funeral.
klean9
Sauce https://youtu.be/raDyWogvQ2Y
chancer888
Mutual respect. ??
3stan2112
Hardly shocking
Darklinkinfinite
Trump went on to suggest he’s burning in hell
ikindacarebutimostlydont
McCain did some evil things and dying doesn't change that https://theintercept.com/2017/07/27/john-mccain-fake-maverick-horrible-record/
FractalChainsaw
Obama didn't shit on him and his legacy. Trump did at every opportunity.
richiWebKing
I desperately did not want McCain as president. But seeing how respectful he was during and after the campaign. I wouldn't have minded.
Legomaniac91
If they hadn't shackled him to an escaped mental patient, he might have had a better shot at winning.
Mabregick
and if he hadn't campaigned on policies that he fought against for years. cause there's that too
jwhennig
Yeah when he got the nomination, he totally changed. It was weird.
Mabregick
Unfortunately, looking back on it, it wasn't weird, but it was predictable even
thaGh0stD0g36
Yeah after the orange dumpster fire everything looks better – McCain was stand up
SmokyDoggg
I've always believed opponents should be respected, otherwise competition devolves into childish name-calling and schoolyard stupidity.
rokidsyndisd
Well said
InsertNameHereIGuess
It's all about having arguments in good faith. With that you can discuss anything with anyone. But there's too much bad faith going around.
lichtly
Opponents should be respected (and be respectful themselves) but now the other side is viewed (and sometimes behaves) as enemies.
Barkinsons
Is that so, I heard that your boyfriends feet are ugly
ValamirCleaver
Idiots on Fox news & their foot fetishes...
ElbowDeepInGod
I concur. People listen when you treat them as an equal. They may not change their mind but being open to discourse is first step to growth
Blud4BludGod
Depends a lot on the opponent, some legitimately shouldn't. But we should certainly look for reasons to respect even those we disagree with.
EmptyHouseBurglar
Sure, except for that intolerance of intolerance paradox exception.
FireSolvesProblems
How terrifying would it be if that actually happened?
DarkTower9779
tnin4u
If?
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
Selfawerewolf
that was the joke yes.
Fravash
Still "He's a good man, not an Arab" is a helluva thing to say.
butterflybuttler221
I think it was more that she was scared of him. He was just being polite & trying to let her finish but yeah that came off pretty fucked up
ProzacPhilosopher
I think he didn't mean it that way he was trying to diffuse the situation quickly and didn't get to think about wording.
Thornaxe
This is the lack of political correctness that should sometimes exist. Shot gets condensed so every response doesn’t turn into a novel.
ProzacPhilosopher
Or just bland rhetoric. He wasn't going to tackle both racism and misinformation in one go.
GrowlBitesBack
Wasn't an implication that he's good because he's *not* Arabic, it was a correction as to what the dumbass was trying to peddle.
alaest0r
Hard to be accurate and not address implied root: paraphrased "he's bad because he's Arab" hard to address both wrongs in a heated moment
alaest0r
Those being 1 he's not arab and 2 even if he was that doesn't imply he's bad because (explanation of why racism is stupid)
Thranx
that comma's a period. Still, sad people needed any explanation at all.
KoalaOnTheJuice
Lol so true.
thedudeman519
That seems like a misquote
URFIR3D
This he’s saying “He’s a good man. He’s not an Arab.” I think those were 2 separate sentences that came out back to back.
InsertNameHereIGuess
He's a good man. He's not an Arab. It's just not well said, but for sure not meant like that.
CrazyCatLad
Yeah, it was poorly worded but as a liberal who did not vote for McCain, I can infer what he meant.
peenesspingpongpaddle
He's not saying they are mutually exclusive, he's clarifying that Obama's a US citizen and is not Arabian.
oblue87
Don't twist words. I voted Obama twice, but McCain is just clarifying to the woman who was clearly misinformed. 1/2
oblue87
She stated she can't trust him and that he's Arab. He states 1. He's a good person and 2. He's not Arab/Muslim but actually christian.
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ILogInToUpvote
When she says "he's an Arab" and he says "No, no ma'am", and later he says "he's not" which is directly responding to her Arab statement.
oblue87
But don't let me get in the way of a good circle jerk and victim complex.
SmokyDoggg
This is when Sept. 11 and the Iraq/Afghan wars were still fresh on our minds. A few ppl here and there tried to label Obama a Muslim but,
Fravash
Yes, I watched this live and it still sucked then. To be charitable, it's the only thing those loons understand.
SmokyDoggg
again, this was back when politics hadn't lowered the bar to where it is now, so that was all dismissed.
BishlamekGurpgork
Well, it was dismissed by the media, before it realized what a powerful force the stupid represented.
palmo
Except it very clearly was not lowered that far. McCain was decent in this, but don't act for a second like the GOP then wasn't playing to(1
SnooziestDragon
McCain also thought to run with Sarah Palin, bringing the tea party, precursor to Q-anon, to mainstream politics. He's not that innocent.
palmo
Their racist base. Don't get me wrong, the last few years have been horrifying, but Trump was a symptom of what we had been seeing for(2
palmo
Well over a decade. Also, don't act like anti-arab sentiment was a natural thing for everyone after 9/11, that was again a GOP tactic(3