Mr. Rogers knew that killing "evil" didn't mean killing evil-doers. It meant making the world a place where people don't want to do evil. It meant teaching kindness, compassion, and acceptance to an entire new generation of people who would want the world to be a better, less-evil place. :)
Wasn't he a Marine at some point? Seem to remember that. And I bet if someone was threatening kids in his vicinity, he could rise to the cause of righteous violence.
From wiki: He registered for the draft in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, in 1948 at age 20, where he was classified 1-A (available for military service);[11] however, his status was changed to unqualified for military service following an Armed Forces physical on October 12, 1950.
So it looks like his soul was willing but the body was unable
Fred Rogers lived through enough to see plenty of evil. He would have shown the reaction to today that all of us should, of being saddened by what's in the hearts of others but striving to help those who need it and to make sure everyone has a place where they always know they're loved and accepted.
I'm feeling like Fred Rogers might've been someone who could speak to the disillusioned. To bridge some understanding. But of course, Trump would've called him a radical left socialist.
I try to keep his words in mind: "Look for the helpers. There are always people who are helping."
I... I am glad he was spared seeing how far we've fallen, but I feel that we still need his message. I'd like to think he would keep impressing on those of us who listen the importance of caring and acceptance.
A pacifist would not be able to wield Mjolnir. Mjolnir is a weapon first and foremost. A weapon to be wielded in the defense of others. If you are not willing to pick up that weapon and use it you are not "worthy".
And swords will be used as ploughshares. Lots of things end up being used for purposes other than their original intent. Sometimes quite meaningfully. Repurpose, reuse, recycle.
Except you're intentionally ignoring the magic that binds the hammer and is the only relevant bit here. It doesn't matter if you can use it as a regular tool, intent to use it as a weapon is required
A normal hammer is a tool yes. But Mjolnir wasn't created to be a normal hammer. It was created to be a weapon. It's entire reason for being was to be a weapon.
It has never at any point in any telling been used as anything but a weapon. Its the weapon of a warrior king to be used in the defense of his people. It is a tool for violence at its very core and to be "worthy" of wielding it one must be prepared to do violence when violence is called for.
I think "wielded in defense of others" may be the telling phrase. A pacifist might not instigate a fight or fight on their own behalf, but if there's an innocent to protect, Mr. Rogers was known to defend those in need. His tools were just more tailored to modern verbal and bureaucratic battles rather than physical ones. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I think he would've taken up a hammer to block someone from being hurt by a nazi.
It boils down to "Are you willing to use violence in the pursuit of justice?". Fred Rogers was not a violent man and I do not believe would ever seek to use violence even if it were justified.
He was a staunch pacifist and a man who always held to his beliefs. If he did "go ham" on someone then would be betraying one of his core belief and I do not think he is a man that would do that.
He went back in time and retired, became a pastor, and decided to start a small public TV show for children. It took off, and he did his best to make the world a better place.
They were obviously brothers! I mean, you can practically hear their mom yelling out the back door, "Fred and Steve, it's time to come in and wash up for supper!"
Fred Rogers, contrary to rumors, probably never hurt anything. Was a college kid for music comp, went to seminary and got a bachelor's in theology, went to graduate school for child development. Dude was a champion. Maxed out the stats that matter most, being a good fuckin human.
Nah. He registered for the draft in 1948, but was deemed unfit in 1950 and never served. Makes you wonder if Mr Rogers could have used some of that serum...
So what you’re saying is Fred Rogers is the alternate universe Steve Rogers who tried signing up for the draft, got rejected, but was never selected for the super soldier program.
Yes, he is a WWII veteran after all, he didn't fight all those Nazi and Hydra soldiers bare handed. His actions have also resulted in many indirect casualties during large scale battles. But never outside of actual combat situations. He has high morals and prefers non-lethal means if possible. I believe Fred Rogers would understand.
He registered in 1948, but never served and then was found physically unfit in 1950. Him as a soldier is just an old urban legend, like how he secretly has tattoos under his shirt
Azubah
I like how Thor changes how he addresses Mr. Rogers after he lifts the hammer.
CorryB
Man... This almost made me cry
Misteree8
We can only dream of a guest special Thor(chris hemsworth) visiting Mr.Rogers and having this conversation on fred rogers show...
zafner
We are losing people like Fred Rogers and getting back people like Andrew Tate
The center cannot hold
IBuiltAFreakingArk
Sorry not sorry, in the comics, part of "worthy" is being willing to hurt others. I think Mr Rogers is too kind.
stillnotawake
KnightoftheChimera
I will never not up vote this.
philmoregraves
Man thst made me happy tear
Timiny
made me cry
SteveD31415
Congratulations on posting a strip that Scrolls properly.
Ryebread91
Him and Robin are two celebs that now as an adult I do really miss.
coreydeangibson6
steve irwin
Ryebread91
Yeah. Unfortunately I didn't get to see too much of him growing up but do remember loving what I saw.
CrisprCAS
Mr. Rogers willing to kill confirmed
notmyrealface
Mr. Rogers was always willing to, for what is right and kind.
swedeonamoose
Mr Rogers never tell people about what happened in those trenches in 1943.
shank1104
That's where the phrase "kill them with kindness" comes from.
MrJ0ker
Mr Roger's in a bloodstained sweater.....
Cindex1337
I was hoping someone would make a reference to The Ultimate Showdown lol.
AggressivelyPassive
Mr. Rogers would've knocked the ballsack right off Thanos' chin
cytherians
Mr. Rogers probably wants to kill evil, but plays nice doing it.
RandyKnapp
Mr. Rogers knew that killing "evil" didn't mean killing evil-doers. It meant making the world a place where people don't want to do evil. It meant teaching kindness, compassion, and acceptance to an entire new generation of people who would want the world to be a better, less-evil place. :)
MajorasTerribleFate
Well, that's all well and good until the Chitauri come knocking. Sometimes you gotta actually be willing to kill, says Mjolnir.
vaecae
That, precisely that.
Ultratoxic
Wasn't he a Marine at some point? Seem to remember that. And I bet if someone was threatening kids in his vicinity, he could rise to the cause of righteous violence.
TheOneWhoSucks
Urban legend. He has enough acting credits that at no point would he have had time to be enlisted between productions.
Ultratoxic
From wiki: He registered for the draft in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, in 1948 at age 20, where he was classified 1-A (available for military service);[11] however, his status was changed to unqualified for military service following an Armed Forces physical on October 12, 1950.
So it looks like his soul was willing but the body was unable
OnePageMage
In a bloodstained sweater?
viasycosis
Well, duh…that’s why it’s red.
Sypurist
DumbandConfused
The victor in some kind of ultimate showdown
lucasmacdonald81101
MisterLemons
A CORE MEMORY!
BreakerSwitch
To quote Abe Lincoln: Have I not destroyed my enemy when I have made him into my friend?
pinatafarmer
To also quote Abe Lincoln "He's hitting me in the butt! He's hitting my butt! Don't break my butt! Don't break my butt! He's breaking my butt!"
YoureWaifuAShit
one of my favorite quotes. on a somewhat related note: check out yozakura quartet!
RowanUnderwood
Really glad Fred didn't live long enough to see us collapse into fascism.
SirLantsBojangles
cause -> effect
JadeNB1729
Fred Rogers lived through enough to see plenty of evil. He would have shown the reaction to today that all of us should, of being saddened by what's in the hearts of others but striving to help those who need it and to make sure everyone has a place where they always know they're loved and accepted.
IfOnlyICouldUseMyPowersForGood
How many times can I upvote this? Once doesn't seem enough.
cytherians
I'm feeling like Fred Rogers might've been someone who could speak to the disillusioned. To bridge some understanding. But of course, Trump would've called him a radical left socialist.
Misteree8
It wouldn't be surprising. FOX news railed on fred Rogers a couple of times.
DukeDarkwood
I try to keep his words in mind: "Look for the helpers. There are always people who are helping."
I... I am glad he was spared seeing how far we've fallen, but I feel that we still need his message. I'd like to think he would keep impressing on those of us who listen the importance of caring and acceptance.
(cc: @RowanUnderwood )
goboltz
Sorry, No . . "Mr. Rogers Lives Forever in us all . . . " !
sarahsaurroar
Mr. Rogers of the hood. I LOVE it.
ExplodingPortaPotty
A pacifist would not be able to wield Mjolnir. Mjolnir is a weapon first and foremost. A weapon to be wielded in the defense of others. If you are not willing to pick up that weapon and use it you are not "worthy".
CommunCreator
Fred was also an ordained minister. Mjolnir would not have moved for him. Now Bob Ross, otoh …
Rubyrose99
Mr Rogers is a retired soldier, I'm certain he could wield mjolnir if circumstances led him to be required to
ExplodingPortaPotty
This is a common misconception. After registering for the draft he was found unqualified for military service due to health reasons.
ImprovedLoungewear
Hm. A hammer is a neutral tool. It can be used to build, to create, to tear down to make way for the new, to destroy, or to harm.
A hammer's purpose depends on the intent of the holder. Mjolnir in the hands of a worthy pacifist would indeed be light as a feather.
TheEternali333
Mjolnir's not a hammer in that sense. It was forged explicitly to be a weapon in every telling.
ImprovedLoungewear
And swords will be used as ploughshares. Lots of things end up being used for purposes other than their original intent. Sometimes quite meaningfully. Repurpose, reuse, recycle.
TheEternali333
Except you're intentionally ignoring the magic that binds the hammer and is the only relevant bit here. It doesn't matter if you can use it as a regular tool, intent to use it as a weapon is required
ImprovedLoungewear
ExplodingPortaPotty
A normal hammer is a tool yes. But Mjolnir wasn't created to be a normal hammer. It was created to be a weapon. It's entire reason for being was to be a weapon.
ImprovedLoungewear
Many things can be used for purposes their creators never envisioned, particularly fictional things, which are only bounded by imagination.
ExplodingPortaPotty
It has never at any point in any telling been used as anything but a weapon. Its the weapon of a warrior king to be used in the defense of his people. It is a tool for violence at its very core and to be "worthy" of wielding it one must be prepared to do violence when violence is called for.
TerenceBroxterman911
You assume Fred Rogers wouldn’t fight. Isn’t there some proverb of “beware the anger of a peaceful man”?
phunkiejunkie
"Three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man."
DarkZalgo
Doors of stone when?
KidCharlemagne524
"Demons run when a good man goes to war."
ExplodingPortaPotty
I mean it's not an assumption, the man was openly a pacifist. He would be betraying his core values if he just decided to start a fight.
gobblinal
There's a WORLD of difference between starting a fight, and finishing a fight.
ExplodingPortaPotty
I don't believe Fred would do either. I could just never see him in a physical altercation.
gobblinal
True. I agree. There are also a LOT of options for ending a fight. Only one of them involves using the Hammer.
effingrayofsunshine
I think "wielded in defense of others" may be the telling phrase. A pacifist might not instigate a fight or fight on their own behalf, but if there's an innocent to protect, Mr. Rogers was known to defend those in need. His tools were just more tailored to modern verbal and bureaucratic battles rather than physical ones. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I think he would've taken up a hammer to block someone from being hurt by a nazi.
effingrayofsunshine
Only blocking, of course. And he would probably also be the man to talk a nazi out of being a nazi.
ExplodingPortaPotty
It boils down to "Are you willing to use violence in the pursuit of justice?". Fred Rogers was not a violent man and I do not believe would ever seek to use violence even if it were justified.
effingrayofsunshine
Maybe unboil it. Lol
That sounds like a cop's reason for why he's a bastard.
technofiend
You really thing Mr. Rogers wouldn't go ham on someone for the right reason? I think he had it in him.
ExplodingPortaPotty
He was a staunch pacifist and a man who always held to his beliefs. If he did "go ham" on someone then would be betraying one of his core belief and I do not think he is a man that would do that.
eidolways
He DID win the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny.
Troldann
His poor, poor sweater.
ianrl337
In my brain Steve "Cpt America" Rogers and Fred "Mr." Rogers are related in some way.
TomboiLacroix
Old Steve is Mr. Rogers new head canon
LtRooney
He went back in time and retired, became a pastor, and decided to start a small public TV show for children. It took off, and he did his best to make the world a better place.
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
It’s a good headcanon
tychog99
Isn't steve's full name Stephen Frederick Rogers or sum
OmbreMallards
They were obviously brothers! I mean, you can practically hear their mom yelling out the back door, "Fred and Steve, it's time to come in and wash up for supper!"
OmbreMallards
I forgot to put the /s, in my comment, apologies to anyone who i confused!
ianrl337
Not at all, I could almost hear Mr Rogers saying "language"
tychog99
Imagine in the timeline whwre Steve lived out his day with Peggy, he ended up bceoming Mr. Rogers...
ianrl337
You can't prove this isn't true
thekeyofe
Steven Frederic Rogers.
wandergirl
Live by the Rogers rule: If Steve or Fred wouldn't do it, you shouldn't
Asadsadsadclown
BigFatFailureTurtle
Pretty sure neither of them would've fixed this spreadsheets...
Dimestream
I'm sure they'd have tried if you'd asked them nicely!
BigFatFailureTurtle
Hmm, that's the correct answer, but not the one I wanted...
Clockworkdancerobot
"Captain Rogers! It's so great to meet you!" "Please, I've been retired many many years, it's just Mister Rogers today."
dogfavoriter
Did Steve Rogers ever kill anyone deliberately? I do not think Fred Rogers would.
Makerofroads
Fred Rogers, contrary to rumors, probably never hurt anything. Was a college kid for music comp, went to seminary and got a bachelor's in theology, went to graduate school for child development. Dude was a champion. Maxed out the stats that matter most, being a good fuckin human.
Roger8086
A super-wholesome non-horndog bard, indeed.
Enoan
Yes. But they were Nazis. At least in his initial adventures.
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
Some people embrace goodness because it's the right thing to do. Some people embrace goodness because they understand what life is without it.
Unclescam
I don't think Mr Rogers ever but Bob Ross certainly did...
Makerofroads
20 years, Air Force, United States of America!
Castironpeppers
Fred Rogers is retired military Navy I believe sweaters were to hide tattoos
Kezabee
Nah. He registered for the draft in 1948, but was deemed unfit in 1950 and never served. Makes you wonder if Mr Rogers could have used some of that serum...
ianrl337
yep, I heard the same stories. That he couldn't serve but instead went to help children instead say a lot about him.
Castironpeppers
Huh that's crazy years ago in highschool we had teachers telling us what I said, not surprised lots of misinformation in the 90s
Septcanmat
So what you’re saying is Fred Rogers is the alternate universe Steve Rogers who tried signing up for the draft, got rejected, but was never selected for the super soldier program.
zstorm6
As he was the last man standing in the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, I would beg to differ.
ghostofdragon
WOW throwback, I needed that memory thank you!
ianrl337
Weirdly enough this popped back on my random youtube music playlist last week
TheGodEmperorOfChaos
Yes, he is a WWII veteran after all, he didn't fight all those Nazi and Hydra soldiers bare handed. His actions have also resulted in many indirect casualties during large scale battles. But never outside of actual combat situations. He has high morals and prefers non-lethal means if possible. I believe Fred Rogers would understand.
ianrl337
Lets not tell him about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
MrGrundySmash
He registered in 1948, but never served and then was found physically unfit in 1950. Him as a soldier is just an old urban legend, like how he secretly has tattoos under his shirt
scavar
I think they meant Captain America not Mr. Rogers?