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Just a whisper. I hear it in my ghost.
Aug 1, 2024 11:20 AM
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Just a whisper. I hear it in my ghost.
NunuvYabizness
"Talk?! And just what are you going to talk about? You don't even know your own name, you stupid dickhead!" - Batou
yruchasnmecuzuruninyurunincuzuchasnme
“All things change in a dynamic environment. Your effort to remain what you are is what limits you.”
AGiantSlor
This is why I like the camo skill in Cyberpunk. Then whip out the Mantis Blades and go full Predator on em.
certainlynotaserialkiller
chjb5772
well fellas … we gettin old
certainlynotaserialkiller
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Drawing only shadows and highlights is so clever. I hadn't noticed how they did it before.
WheezyLex
Darnit, now I gotta go watch the movie again.
75townecoupe
His ghost's been hacked
TofuGolem
"Aw, out of ammo?"
She counted his shots throughout that chase. Badass.
defideli
Why is this marked unmuted? There does not seem to be sound?
Coyotebd
I don't think he'd have been able to catch that plane, even if Major Kusanagi hadn't got him.
TheOtherLucas
the tank scene is awesome
langri
"What did you use?" "Standard issue big gun."
ihatemyknee
https://youtu.be/bM145D_ZhJA?feature=shared
abtei
OST instantly played in my head.
Syndicofberyl
I love the effect where she still casts a shadow
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Because her suit copies the background but doesn't make her transparent. How it shows something different in every direction is "sufficiently advanced technology".
Syndicofberyl
That's what I mean. They thought of every aspect. Everything has logic behind it instead of just "she's invisible"
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
IIRC that camo appeared in some William Gibson novel - if the wearer moved fast it would lag and reveal a vague shape just like in this scene
Syndicofberyl
I wanna say necromancer bit it could also have been idoru
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
*neuro, please. If it was Gibson it was one of the Sprawl trilogy.
Nightchime
People shit on the live action movie, but I couldn't help but love how well they represented scenes like this one.
NSFWfrontpage2
Aside from the broken bones this guy lived the dream. He got to wrestle with a hot, strong, naked lady
Gish99
The recreation of this scene in the live action version was the only good part of that movie
Baelnorn
PicassoCT
Whats a simulated experience again?
Multipass
Hi.
Gelantious
Love the style of this much more than the new versions, hate how they redesigned the characters...
DarkwingDuc
There are essentially 3 versions of Ghost in the Shell: 1. The original manga from Masamune Shirow, which lighter and cheekier. 2. The two films from Mamoru Oshii, which are deeper, more somber, and my favorite by far. 3. The animated series (SAC, Arise, and their respective movies), which are kind of a mesh of the two. (There's also the Hollywood version and a few different video game takes, but that's another story IMO.)
DarkwingDuc
When the Wachowski's were pitching the Matrix, the included a VHS copy of Ghost in the Shell with their screenplay to demonstrate the visual style and thematic elements they envisioned for the film. There are some good comparison videos out there showing visual ideas that were borrowed, and some scenes that were almost shot-for-shot remakes.
codenameRadical
Although I must confess, I'm pretty sure the ships came from blade runner
DarkwingDuc
Which, in turn took inspiration from Philip K. Dick's 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep'. Nothing is created in a vacuum. Nothing is completely original. Which is why characters in GITS, and especially in its sequel Innocence, incessantly quote philosophers and religious texts, almost like, when connected to the entirety of human knowledge all at once, they have on original ideas of their own. (At least that's my interpretation.)
codenameRadical
Unrelated: Holy crap is Innocence a pile of "look how smart I am"-ness. I love ghost int he shell, but ... innocence is nothing other than that. The original has a couple quotes that seem a bit much, I guess, but it's also about ... so much. Innocence is just an expanded episode from the series, so it feels, to me, like it's not really there for any reason.
codenameRadical
Oh, yeah. Definitely not suggesting it as if it's a bad thing. Just ... watched Blade Runner well after The Matrix, and was like "hey thats the thing".
kahooki
The one movie I refer to if asked what movie I like most.
It upholds in quality still.
Amazing for the time and still gets better with every new watch.
Mamoru Oshii and Masamune Shirow were such a great combination.
udpatter
really appreciate how much effort this film put into simply showing off the environment
drcoolhands
Mamoru Oshii puts a ton of focus on setting a stage and a mood. His Patlabor 2 film is an even more extreme example of this. It's an extremely tense pol-mil thriller with some of the most hauntingly beautiful imagry.
ottercontrol
Or the music, I just look at the clip and I can hear the music.
TofuGolem
There's a lot of symbolism going on there if you wanna watch some analysis videos or read some essays on the Internet.
ChorizoPig
Much of it based on Kowloon Walled City, IIRC.
forelle
And I might add, the environment really deepens the fundamental pilosophical questions present in the actual action. Without this it would be an okay film. With it, it is a damn masterpiece.
udpatter
Remembering fighting the tank in an abandoned museum, where it shoots up a whole evolutionary tree that's carved into the wall. Have we separated ourselves from evolution? Are cyborgs the next race?
Selfawerewolf
Indeed the film is about the world humans have created and the world is in fact an integral part of the film. Man I might throw it on again right now.
herrcane
DarkwingDuc
That GITS 2, isn't int?
herrcane
Yeah, different director but he definitely carried over the environmental display from the first one. The parade scene was amazing.
ThatsJustWhatWeCallPillowTalkBaby
That parade scene put tears in my eyes the first time I saw it. Absolutely breathtaking.
c64masterrace
Mamoru Oshii directed both movies, Ghost in the Shell, and Innocence
DarkwingDuc
Innocence is such a good, underrated film. I got to see in a theater earlier this year when they re-released it for it's 20th anniversary. Still holds up. Some the CG is rough by modern standards, but the story is more prescient than ever.
InkGoat
Is there somewhere to watch this on streaming? I got the first few discs from Netflix waaaaaay back when, but someone lost several discs in the middle.
TheOtherLucas
GITS is a fantastic achievement in animation. the story is meh, but the art and animation is eye blowingly awesome
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
The main plot is regular action-movie intrigue. Motoko's doubt about what makes the self is tangential but welcome. And you didn't mention the music: https://youtu.be/MZK2nRX_DnY
DarkwingDuc
I couldn't disagree harder about the story. There are many beautifully drawn anime from the '90s, but GITS is one of the ones we keep coming back to b/c its story, tackling AI and post-humanism, individual vs. collective identity, memory vs. reality, and existential questions of self, freedom of choice, and the search for meaning, is just as prescient today as when it was released over a quarter century ago.
randomdudefromtheinternet
Agreed
MystikSpiral
The story is not "meh", maybe the subject of "what makes us human?" did not appeal to you...
TheOtherLucas
okay, my critique was a bit harsh, the notion of exploring humanity is an intriguing one, but it's done in a style that leaves something to be desired in my opinion. I am western, and japanese storytelling doesn't translate very well, in terms of narrative beats for me. Don't get me wrong, I love the movie, but I watch it for the art and animation primarily. your mileage may vary.
MystikSpiral
Okay, I'll give you this: There is not a lot of "flesh" to the story, as far as twists, turns, revelations, background etc. goes. So I understand, why you might feel there is something missing. However, I would counter that is actually a positive in this case. There is not a wasted second in this movie, no roundabout way of getting to the point of questioning what makes us "special". And it just leaves you with that thought...I just love that.
randomdudefromtheinternet
I am Western as well and love GitS in every aspect. Never would've thought Stand Alone Complex even topped that for me. My favorite Anime of all time, easily.
ShadowTeller
the direct sequels aren't even close to as good but the Arise ones are and the Series is great, and I love the music.
smichette
I Can hear his footsteps and all by memory... Such a mémorable scène and movie. <3
Curii
I still don't understand why thermoptic camo required the lasses to be naked, but not the blokes?
nemocares
Motoko has the system built into her body, the dude had it as a separate garment. Also: porn.
codenameRadical
Seconding. Her skin is therm-optics. He wears a sort of poncho that has it. His is black market. It would be almost impossible to black market his body, because of the systems involved in cyber bodies. A poncho, though? Easily done. [This is also referred back to, sort of, in Stand Alone Complex, when someone mentions that they're not sure how much of their bodies would be left if they had to return the government issued parts].
BillyM00n
The way it was explained to is this: the Major is aware of the fact she runs around in a robotized body and doesn't feel really connected to it much, so she feels less obligation to treat it like an extension of herself, ie: clothe it. The other guy doesn't know his ghost has been hacked so he still wears clothes like he always does. It's not about their genders but their specific characters.
Also Masamune Shirow loves tits, I think? Reference the Puma sisters from Tank Police.
PicassoCT
That was a hard one.. that explaination
Curii
I meant, the police blokes all kept their togs on.
TellusEidolon
The animation quality of this movie is amazing. Still holds up. I rewatched it some years ago.
MystikSpiral
That is because it is "handmade" and thus feels alive...It's the same with old Disney movies.
Hammerwell
I think a combination of digital processing and classic drawing was used. I believe they sold cels to collectors.
daychilde
It was my first real foray into anime and it ruined me because I am extraordinarily picky and little measures up. Cowboy bebop is one. Ghibli films, while completely different in feel, do stack up well. But little else.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Check out Tekkonkinkreet.
Hammerwell
There are so many. Im sure adequate entertainment can be found. The first idea would be to look for the same studio or director. Otherwise, it comes to personal taste. Patlabor maybe. Or look up Kon Satoshi's movies. And Matsumoto Leiji made masterpieces too. Im still amazed that Daft Punk managed to convince him. Akira, Macross, Royal Space Force, Violett Evergarden, Garden of Words, Yokohama Shopping Trip, Wolf Children, Mononoke, or good old Vampire Hunter D. The possibilities are endless.
kkanne20
Agreed. Others that are top-tier and non-Ghibli are Akira, Samurai Champloo, Ninja Scroll, possibly Vampire Hunter D (but it's been a long time since I saw it and I can't remember how good it actually was), probably a few others.
TellusEidolon
Cowboy Bebop was my first in late 90's when i just thought it was another animation cartoon like the rest of european animation movies. Wasn't before the early 2000s anime/manga wave i realised it was an anime i had seen.
WheezyLex
Check out Royal Space Force: Wings of Honnêamise.
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https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0093207/
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/oritsu_uchugun_oneamisu_no_tsubasa
100 on the Tomatometer
SeRaQt
Shortened version of the pursuit scene just before (sound on):
unluckyandbored
I need to watch this again.
certainlynotaserialkiller
always loved the part where the dude braces after changing rounds. sound design was awesome. (the japanese version, the US version is crap).
JustAnotherRabidToaster
Pointless trivia, the white car is based on the legendary Alfa Romeo SZ
certainlynotaserialkiller
its not pointless, i had one for many years.
JustAnotherRabidToaster
Amazing cars, wished they sold them in the US. Best I had was the GTV-6, the 164L, the Spyder and the Alfetta GT
Snausagebort
How many points did it have then, Mr SmartyPants??
GTimgur
I love how Kusanagi's landing crumpling that panel shows how heavy her body is.
Selfawerewolf
It's very cool my only criticism is she does no damage to a sign she launches herself from and she knocks one piece of pipe from a bunch of other I guess welded pipes but that object doesn't react like the roof did when she landed. Not that it matters. The point is conveyed.
DrQui
About 440 lbs - If I remember it right
unluckyandbored
IIRC somewhere around 200kg
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Prosthetics can be heavier. When the rival Section 6 sneaks in two extra operatives in camo, Togusa checks the floor pressure sensors and asks Major if the minister could have a custom body because the weight reads too high (but nope, they all have to be naturals).
lappelduvideonfullblast
and the perp sliding backwards due to the recoil. makes no sense but they somehow made it look cool
GTimgur
A very creative way to show the amount of recoil. Maybe it makes some sense if he was a cyborg.
lappelduvideonfullblast
a very, very light cyborg ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
GTimgur
Given the type of ammo he was using, he'd have been knocked back or his arms torn off if he was a light cyborg.
Zakcl
Hes using "hypervelocity ammo", its why it makes a huge mess of an armoured police vehicle. I always loved this movie. The spider tank at the end, such a great showdown.