"We're just gonna cut random important government services and healthcare and give it to billionaires and corporations. It's part of making America greater."
With modern monitoring tech, predictions are around ~75% accurate. Before the use of that tech, it was closer to around ~34%. And with the cuts and discontinuation of key monitoring systems, it will likely drop much lower than 34% because the old methods that got it to that point, simply don't exist any more. So there's very little to actually make predictions with.
Ahhhh seems like the consequences of your actions. Maybe you dipshits in texas should have voted for someone who wasnt going to cut state of the art CRUCIAL technology needed to save your lives. You fucking donkeys. I cant stand texas.
This local news story lays out clearly the events leading up to the floods. NWS predicted 7 inches, they got 12. NWS released numerous warnings over the emergency alert system, sent to peoples' phones. Regional NWS office was operating normally and properly staffed. This part of Texas is prone to flooding, and a warming climate makes these events more intense.
They did what they could with their own models no longer fed by naval satellite data... these are LOCAL experts not to be petty but they cannot believe they're better than NOAA at monitoring atmospheric conditions. Thats like a state college team thinking they're as good as professional NBA all stars.
Journalists need to carry portable projectors and short clips like these prepared, so whenever someone opens their mouth and out come lies or distortions they can simply play the clop and have the counterproof right there.
Doing this to Trump might simply give him an aneurism.
Jesus Christ it didn't take long for people to die huh? Not that they hadn't already but man, the sheer....... You know what? Fuck it. I don't have the energy
givin alert with social media? fucking social media? are we serious? android phone can give alert with the on the air technology, so even when they dont have a sim in they can give the alert! why the fuck do they use social media?
That's what happens when you build a reactive system instead of a proactive one. Same applies to our healthcare system too and is why it's so overloaded and getting shoddier in real time too
I was just thinking same thing. It's like the whole thing with Trump saying that Covid just looks bad because people are testing positive, so just stop testing so much. If you want better weather, just stop tracking it so much!
No doubt the Biden administration will be blamed somehow. The current GOP Administration will not allow anyone to negatively criticise their decisions.
This nation has a pathological need to protect Republicans and blame Democrats for everything. Republicans overturned Roe, Trump even bragged about it, but instead of holding him accountable the nation blamed Obama for “not codifying it”. It is literally the job of the SCOTUS to declare laws unconstitutional. There’s no law he could have passed that would have survived the Dobbs ruling. We literally blamed Dems for not doing something that wouldn’t have mattered.
It's valid to both blame the GOP for overturning Roe and to blame the Dems for never trying to make it law. The GOP have been trying to overturn Roe since the ink dried on the decision.
Did they or did they not effectively negate the national weather service? Texas you asked for this, you courted this, you proposed to this, you married this.
They can't even put all this on Trump. The state just passed a law right from the chemtrail nutters that limits nexrad systems until a "safety study" is completed.
No. “Texas” didn’t do this. Millions of people in Texas voted against this bullshit. Lumping in everyone is like saying anyone who lives within the US borders chose Trump.
Texas conservative politicians & MAGAt (& those non-voters by choice) did this. Lots of blues trapped in red states. And no child, regardless of their parents' political leanings, "asked for this". Dead CHILDREN.
Ostracising people who had families or race dying in one ofbthe worst US aided Middle East genocide where Biden was guilty of and Trump being the racist pos. Democrats relentless sadistic pieces of shit. No better than MAGA brainrot who cannot think outside what their "TEAM" perpetrates.
Didn't the government recently take away several satellites away from weather forecasting and repurpose them to the military? This was like last week or 2 weeks ago...
I believe they are military satellites and previously the military shared pertinent data with the NWS because that is the normal rational thing for a nation to do. It was stopped by the Dumbfuck Regime because they are hateful dumbfucks who want people to die.
Well duh, it's part two of their standard plan to try and privatize everything. Gut the system, then complain about the system you gutted, then demand it be privatized.
It'll then be paid for with profit by public until - it gets so bad it's not fit for purpose, the party in power changes and these things are nationalized/replaced. If you're really lucky, technology may make a large part of it obsolete and cheapen the cost of the goal of the service (e.g. email for post - there's a lot of problems with parcels and voting etc but the bulk of letter delivery is now email)
If we aren't doomed, we're at the very least in for a rougher ride than anything humanity has done to itself previously... (This is a comment about sociology, not the climate crisis)
Problem is, the private sector used the resources provided by the Government. Because those monitoring systems simply cost too much to operate for any individual weather company to be able to afford. Because there's just not that much money in weather data collection. But there are huge amounts of costs due to the huge areas that need to be monitored.
Thats why they'll only service the rich areas.. us poor people will drown and die in the natural disaster zones unprepared because we can't afford to pay for weather bloopy+
That's not how the system works for weather. You're thinking about 2 - 3 points down the chain of where the cuts are being made. They want to privatise the data collection, which is currently free for all. The kind of thing you are referring to is forecasting, which is the end point of the product chain, they want to privatise the very start of the chain.
But even then, monitoring the weather just has too many costs. As it has too many weather stations that need maintenance and that needs too many workers in the field. Plus, most people aren't going to pay for a weather report, they'll just go to a news site that posts it for free. And then peoples weather apps will likely do the same.
Except the entire industry has been outspoken against Trumps intentions to do that. This isn't like most government systems that had people wanting to turn it private within the industry.
Not really, the systems cost too much. And even with jacked up costings, it would take too long for them to make their money back. So they are more likely to just proceed with worse data because that's cheaper. And most weather forecasters aren't going to pay for massive markups, because most are already operating on shoe string budgets. There's just not much money in the weather reporting sector. Profit margins are really small with not much growth potential.
The government would still pay for the service and provide the data for the weather forecasters at a loss, it would jest be operated and maintained by a private contractor, most likely some spacex offshoot, for orders of magnitude more money and less coverage. That's the business model of "privatise everything" politicians. It's not about being cost effective, it's about wedging your buddies corporation into the revenue stream and looting everything.
But the issue is they would then pass the costs down to all the forecasters. Which the entire industry is in opposition to. Because they know people aren't going to pay for a weather report.
I don't want to speak for dposton70, but I think the point they were making is that it doesn't matter if it costs too much or if it would actually work. They will get it running in the mythical 5 to 10 years while raking in that 10 to 20 times cost...only to find out in those 5 to 10 years that it still isn't ready. Of course, they already knew that, but they still did it. Maybe another 5 to 10 years is the answer after the first 5 to 10 years...
See, that can be done for basically anything else except weather. Because without reliable weather reporting, modern farming can't function. Storm warning's can't function. It needs to be functional or people will die and infrastructure will suffer additional damage. It's also not just the US that uses NOAA data, a lot of the worlds weather reporting is based on it.
myheartisstarkmyspiritistargaryen
You really think they care? they don't care unless its their people, their kids, their family.....
jtxyz
brianglass10
But we’re saving money!
notblubber
"We're just gonna cut random important government services and healthcare and give it to billionaires and corporations. It's part of making America greater."
Durgon8tr
well maybe it was the jewish space lasers that caused it
MostAwesomeDan
Idiots are so back ass wards they don't even know that the leopard is eating their face right now.
Targe0
With modern monitoring tech, predictions are around ~75% accurate. Before the use of that tech, it was closer to around ~34%. And with the cuts and discontinuation of key monitoring systems, it will likely drop much lower than 34% because the old methods that got it to that point, simply don't exist any more.
So there's very little to actually make predictions with.
ItsACrazyWorld
Ahhhh seems like the consequences of your actions. Maybe you dipshits in texas should have voted for someone who wasnt going to cut state of the art CRUCIAL technology needed to save your lives. You fucking donkeys. I cant stand texas.
knexusatx
Yeah I vote blue in every election, just like the majority of people in my county. A county that has at least four deaths so far. Don't be such a cunt
Lassannn
Damn shame about all the children. Drowning is no good way to go.
DeucesMongooses
Finding out
woozle
eddbrowne
"we all die"
Munchman347
Figures Tejas would blame the victims of Diaper Boy's purge and not the Orange Weasel itself.
nation543
And they don't get FEMA money. Imagine that.
9z2nf02h
Y'all gotta stop falling for stories like this.
This local news story lays out clearly the events leading up to the floods. NWS predicted 7 inches, they got 12. NWS released numerous warnings over the emergency alert system, sent to peoples' phones. Regional NWS office was operating normally and properly staffed. This part of Texas is prone to flooding, and a warming climate makes these events more intense.
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/05/texas-hill-country-floods-warning-forecast-nws/
zerneus
They did what they could with their own models no longer fed by naval satellite data... these are LOCAL experts not to be petty but they cannot believe they're better than NOAA at monitoring atmospheric conditions. Thats like a state college team thinking they're as good as professional NBA all stars.
popeyeNL
Yep, looks like nobody too action after receiving flood warnings.
ogdm
cgt9803
I'm just surprised they aren't blaming Hunter Biden's dick or drag queens
FPAlpha
Journalists need to carry portable projectors and short clips like these prepared, so whenever someone opens their mouth and out come lies or distortions they can simply play the clop and have the counterproof right there.
Doing this to Trump might simply give him an aneurism.
9z2nf02h
Except it's a fucking lie.
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/05/texas-hill-country-floods-warning-forecast-nws/
Snooj
Uh ... is he trying to blame "media" for the flood?
SimpsonsGIFforit
Jesus Christ it didn't take long for people to die huh? Not that they hadn't already but man, the sheer....... You know what? Fuck it. I don't have the energy
pareidoliaperson
But Abbott wants you to pray!!/s
AgathaHarkness
ignotoCiResto
givin alert with social media? fucking social media? are we serious? android phone can give alert with the on the air technology, so even when they dont have a sim in they can give the alert! why the fuck do they use social media?
VictusVonGuyver
This is missing an additional one that the Trump administration recently decided to hamper our ability to predict weather.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2025/07/03/navy-to-stop-sharing-satellite-weather-data-with-noaa/#:~:text=NOAA)-,As%20of%20July%2031%2C%20the%20Navy's%20Fleet%20Numerical%20Meteorology%20and,according%20to%20the%20NOAA%20release.
koyote2033
That's what happens when you build a reactive system instead of a proactive one. Same applies to our healthcare system too and is why it's so overloaded and getting shoddier in real time too
effingrayofsunshine
I was just thinking same thing. It's like the whole thing with Trump saying that Covid just looks bad because people are testing positive, so just stop testing so much. If you want better weather, just stop tracking it so much!
michaelfire
It was the Texas officials who decided to not issue flood warnings tho....?
PerthAussieMike
No doubt the Biden administration will be blamed somehow. The current GOP Administration will not allow anyone to negatively criticise their decisions.
thepandasbum
Which is exactly what the first amendment is about 🙄
SteveBestFriendAndTrustedColleague
"The only purpose of the first amendment is to protect our ability to lie" is a liars perspective.
RadiateIrreverence
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlYXp6MGNjZ3dod2d4am05aTRjdHBsNXQ2bnMydDRwZnVpMXgxYzVkNyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/WoFOE2RNhRxbDMlKRL/giphy.mp4
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
This nation has a pathological need to protect Republicans and blame Democrats for everything. Republicans overturned Roe, Trump even bragged about it, but instead of holding him accountable the nation blamed Obama for “not codifying it”. It is literally the job of the SCOTUS to declare laws unconstitutional. There’s no law he could have passed that would have survived the Dobbs ruling. We literally blamed Dems for not doing something that wouldn’t have mattered.
unclefisty
It's valid to both blame the GOP for overturning Roe and to blame the Dems for never trying to make it law. The GOP have been trying to overturn Roe since the ink dried on the decision.
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
***There is no law they could have passed that would have survived the Dobbs ruling***. You are proving my point.
saipemcastorone3000
The current Fascist Party of America you say?
PerthAussieMike
Or should it be the Fascist American Party... F.A.P. 'cos they are all a bunch of wankers, lol
freakdiablo
"Well you see the Biden administration should have predicted future budget cuts, and raised their budget accordingly."
CrumbyCake
Fuck em
ConfederacyOfDunces
Fuck... who, exactly? The victims (including children) who died in the flood?
CrumbyCake
More specifically the officials in Texas, but the administration that cut the jobs.
dontrike
"How dare the broken thing we helped vote to break not work!"
Drew442
Did they or did they not effectively negate the national weather service? Texas you asked for this, you courted this, you proposed to this, you married this.
TheWojoPL
https://youtube.com/shorts/7aJZl-8UaXU
Hevach
They can't even put all this on Trump. The state just passed a law right from the chemtrail nutters that limits nexrad systems until a "safety study" is completed.
ButtPlunger69
Fuckwits. Hmm, maybe 50+ people dead proves the safety system was established and you just removed it??? Texas is a absolute shithole
ImaginaryMamboNumber5
Nope. They are unable to admit they were wrong in anything they've done so it'll be blamed on someone or something else.
ButMyOtherMomSaysImCool
No. “Texas” didn’t do this. Millions of people in Texas voted against this bullshit. Lumping in everyone is like saying anyone who lives within the US borders chose Trump.
AgathaHarkness
Texas conservative politicians & MAGAt (& those non-voters by choice) did this. Lots of blues trapped in red states. And no child, regardless of their parents' political leanings, "asked for this". Dead CHILDREN.
pareidoliaperson
Ostracising people who had families or race dying in one ofbthe worst US aided Middle East genocide where Biden was guilty of and Trump being the racist pos. Democrats relentless sadistic pieces of shit. No better than MAGA brainrot who cannot think outside what their "TEAM" perpetrates.
ButtPlunger69
Username checks out
LokilairTTV
*squints* .... Agatha....
OrkenMork
Didn't the government recently take away several satellites away from weather forecasting and repurpose them to the military? This was like last week or 2 weeks ago...
1eventHorizon9
I believe they are military satellites and previously the military shared pertinent data with the NWS because that is the normal rational thing for a nation to do. It was stopped by the Dumbfuck Regime because they are hateful dumbfucks who want people to die.
softsuit
Glenn Frey " Dirty Laundry "
MonkeyofDeath
I thought that was Don Henley.
softsuit
Great. Song by Don.
silvimancer
That has been delayed until 7/31/25--and it is used for hurricane monitoring.
irrationaldesign
So, delayed until the beginning of hurricane season? That makes sense.
Polarnation
It is already hurricane season. Hurricane season is June 1st to November 30th and you can read that within this article. https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/noaa-predicts-above-normal-2025-atlantic-hurricane-season
Polarnation
Hurricane season is June 1st to November 30th, so it already is hurricane season. You can read that in this article https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/noaa-predicts-above-normal-2025-atlantic-hurricane-season. Still terrible about the repurposes of the satellites though.
initforthespecs
Just in time
MisterLemons
Looks like we're getting an early start this year
initforthespecs
That's not good
DocFunkenstein
Well duh, it's part two of their standard plan to try and privatize everything. Gut the system, then complain about the system you gutted, then demand it be privatized.
cullingg
It'll then be paid for with profit by public until - it gets so bad it's not fit for purpose, the party in power changes and these things are nationalized/replaced. If you're really lucky, technology may make a large part of it obsolete and cheapen the cost of the goal of the service (e.g. email for post - there's a lot of problems with parcels and voting etc but the bulk of letter delivery is now email)
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
rusrsdude
Gotta nuke the whole country at this point, probably
raknor88
Also, weather service provides truth to climate change. Can't gave that. GOP would have to admit they were wrong.
ChewieQuixote12ParsecsDeepInAnElbow
If we aren't doomed, we're at the very least in for a rougher ride than anything humanity has done to itself previously... (This is a comment about sociology, not the climate crisis)
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
Yep. Approximately 3.4 million people were just officially added to the slave labor pool. Far less than half even know. But 1% of that 3.4 actually caused it, and are proud. https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dDlicngwOG11Z2N5ZWR6eDY3d3JkbGN6cDBsNmw3cnN6eWh2bzJybSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/mUaLxV54jZEEE/200w.gif
Mynamedoesntmatteronlylifematters
It's Luigi Time!
bad1080
soon they have elon launch rockets to find the jewish space lasers
Targe0
Problem is, the private sector used the resources provided by the Government.
Because those monitoring systems simply cost too much to operate for any individual weather company to be able to afford.
Because there's just not that much money in weather data collection. But there are huge amounts of costs due to the huge areas that need to be monitored.
Gobjin
Thats why they'll only service the rich areas.. us poor people will drown and die in the natural disaster zones unprepared because we can't afford to pay for weather bloopy+
Targe0
That's not how the system works for weather.
You're thinking about 2 - 3 points down the chain of where the cuts are being made.
They want to privatise the data collection, which is currently free for all.
The kind of thing you are referring to is forecasting, which is the end point of the product chain, they want to privatise the very start of the chain.
mezzidriel
Just wait til a subscription is the only way to get weather forecasts.
Targe0
But even then, monitoring the weather just has too many costs.
As it has too many weather stations that need maintenance and that needs too many workers in the field. Plus, most people aren't going to pay for a weather report, they'll just go to a news site that posts it for free. And then peoples weather apps will likely do the same.
mezzidriel
I think you underestimate the chokehold capitalism has on us. If it can be privatized for profit, it will be, regardless of sensibility or logic.
Targe0
Except the entire industry has been outspoken against Trumps intentions to do that.
This isn't like most government systems that had people wanting to turn it private within the industry.
dposton70
Right. But the private sector could probably get the system back up in running in "5 to 10" years, and it would only cost us 10 to 20 times as much!
Targe0
Not really, the systems cost too much.
And even with jacked up costings, it would take too long for them to make their money back.
So they are more likely to just proceed with worse data because that's cheaper.
And most weather forecasters aren't going to pay for massive markups, because most are already operating on shoe string budgets.
There's just not much money in the weather reporting sector. Profit margins are really small with not much growth potential.
SalmonTheWise
The government would still pay for the service and provide the data for the weather forecasters at a loss, it would jest be operated and maintained by a private contractor, most likely some spacex offshoot, for orders of magnitude more money and less coverage. That's the business model of "privatise everything" politicians. It's not about being cost effective, it's about wedging your buddies corporation into the revenue stream and looting everything.
Targe0
But the issue is they would then pass the costs down to all the forecasters.
Which the entire industry is in opposition to.
Because they know people aren't going to pay for a weather report.
b01000100
I don't want to speak for dposton70, but I think the point they were making is that it doesn't matter if it costs too much or if it would actually work. They will get it running in the mythical 5 to 10 years while raking in that 10 to 20 times cost...only to find out in those 5 to 10 years that it still isn't ready. Of course, they already knew that, but they still did it. Maybe another 5 to 10 years is the answer after the first 5 to 10 years...
Targe0
See, that can be done for basically anything else except weather.
Because without reliable weather reporting, modern farming can't function.
Storm warning's can't function.
It needs to be functional or people will die and infrastructure will suffer additional damage.
It's also not just the US that uses NOAA data, a lot of the worlds weather reporting is based on it.
dposton70
You got it.