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eggman989
If you liquified the bees first I think we could bump that up to 15 - 20 million bees. Let me get my old blender.
Bmxtucker
?1 obligatory:
GraemeDynard
I said a few million after watching a beekeeper moving bees from one hive to another, casually mention it was about 50k bees.
BillHubbard
How many cubic feet go in one shoe? Asking for the metric community.
JonWallace1985
But that only works if they stack perfectly. Otherwise you need to find the optimal stacking pattern.
TheObstinateOne
It now occurs to me that all those "that happened" people are so, because they were never blessed with these formative experiences.
HeartsAndStars
Exactly. Everyone's got a blindspot.
freckledkink
I know! This sounds exactly like the kind of thing my family argues about.
admeaz0123
Every now and then my family argues about whether purple or green ketchup was more disgusting and how much both traumatized our childhoods
?
fartymarty42
Klnwltrnk
Now are we just stuffing the bees into the car, or are we letting them turn it into a hive?
iAlwaysUpvoteMN
That doesn’t take into account packing. You telling me you couldn’t pack more crushed bees into that Lex? Equation way too simple
Frederf
Do you slap the roof and say "this baby can fit so many bees in it" or not? I feel this is a critical parameter.
When I was a rental car agent, people would ask me how big the trunk of the cars were. I would tell them they could fit however many adult
Bodies inside. Like, the full size car trunk would fit 3 bodies if put in tetris style. I got a lot of weird looks but some people got my
Humor after being crammed on a plane for hours.
UrbanNorthern
Lotta tension in this family
CaptainClarification
I'm fairly certain it's actually 6,358,500 bees, according to the data he gave. He's trying to short this guy like 7k bees.
Enigma8246
They don't specify model year of the GX. Let the fighting resume.
ASwedishDuck
They didn't specify the kind of bee either. Apis Dorsata is twice as long as Apis Cerana.
NimbleStampcrab
Bees? This whole thing is ridiculous. What they should be asking is, "How many wasps can you fit in a Lexus GX?"
prattlepro
Colopty
That assumes perfect packing efficiency though, as if the bees are liquid.
brotherbuzz
Now THAT is how a community is suppose to work!
DaveSamsonite
Just five or six Beyoncé of them.
WhyCantIBeFunny
Great, now Americans will measure car capacity in terms of bees…
HelpfulCorn
We really need @UnitConversionBot here
SodomySnake
nomorehate
woozle
Pfffftit
What if you use a Cuisinart ?
strongface4400
Lmfao. At least its not a covid fight. I find this argument to be a sign of hope?... im being serious.
TheChunguskaEvent
not a smart family
xyxyxyxy31
Ryebread91
Hopefully the siblings are kids. If adult and think trillions they're morons.
drandolph
You can tell that some of them would take horse deworming medicine because a facebook post said so.
skyconb
Or a really smart lazy person who knows exactly what to say to get random internet strangers to do all the research for them
ScroopyNoopers0
That tension probably lies deeper than bees
elhigh
Clearly. The facts were easily attainable with just a minute's worth of googling.
Nathanyel
Not sure if pun was intended...
ExtraJudicial
Many people have a difficult time with the concept of a billion anything and a trillion is just a ludicrous amount.
Espeer
On the other hand, a million is easy to visualize. It's a hundred on each edge of a cube.
Biopunk22
Trillions... how could you come to that conclusion
lichenit
Maybe there's a mini bee for every bee, and a mini bee for every mini bee and so forth.
LordFancypantsicus
Nevertheless somehow wealthy though, if their first choice of car for this thought experiment is a Lexus.
ehhh. Even the luxury trim is only like $65k-ish.
RogueKitsune
"Only"?!
yeah it is low-to-mid range of luxury full-size SUV segment
Um, I just bought a 2018 Toyota for 20k and that stretched my budget. If you can afford 65k I'd say you're doing pretty good.
MaladaptedMedic
It’s 5 seconds of googling followed by 10 seconds of math. Definitely not a smart family if it’s led to this much strife
mikeatike
Is Wolfram alpha still a thing? (Volume of honey bee) * (interior capacity of Lexus GX)
Eh it failed
icantheicanoclast
It is, but I tried it, dosent work
Gryffindorky
But does that include a/the trunk?
shadowmoon522
didyouseewhatgodjustdidtousman
LOL trillions
CognosNerd
Bees are not perfect cubes, so there will be some loss in packing (assuming you're not crushing). Optimally packed spheres lose around 26%.
davidaduke127001
This is actually correct. Live bees would also take more volume unless they we're compressed
GandolfFood
I figured they were liquified, but yeah.
InkGoat
I once won a round of trivia by guessing the number of o's in a can of spaghetti-o's by estimating volumes and guessing the packing density.
PrincessNausicaa
I also thought that they might need some space to movie if they're alive.
Bees are more like cylinders, so let's drop the loss rate to 13%. Instead of 6,351,111, at most you can pack is around 5,525,466.
Buddha7
Don't bees swarm to kill things with heat? You figuring to give these bees some room to breathe, or y'all just want a car full of dead bees?
ijdod
They’re in a car, just turn on the A/C. /joke
phunkiejunkie
We also have to think about how much the bees on the bottom support. At a certain point, will they squish? Is a pile of bee goo still a bee?
Septcanmat
This reminds me of the mole of moles.
SilverHarvest
Sad part is that is actually easy to find info and figure out. Must not be tearing apart or high priority that much if can't do that little.
PowerToAllThePeople
Some people really just aren't smart enough to understand how to properly search for something for themselves.
Twinklepot
Well that stung
amp99
Maybe they want independent answers, rather than allowing someone involved or with a personal stake to resolve it?
That would be one of the times I show my entire work. So it can be easily reproduced. Vs where I can cut steps because memorization.
boevis
Ah yes, because basic math needs to be independently verified.
Heh, this is a family dispute; no place for logic! ;)
AnathemaNoreh
Maybe the fights are about semantics. Trunk space? What if they're in the vents? Glove box?
touhi2000
Cargo space?
CarlottaVonSprockett
Yeah. I could see an argument in my family including whether we’re packing them head to stinger, or if we’re leaving room for them to fly.
XEndeadX
They don't want to do math, they just want to be right.
Macynist
I know plenty people that can’t calculate this sort of thing. They can divide on a calculator but not imagine or find what to divide by what
CaptainYesterday
But does the answer account for different interior bits? Stick or manual? Also, seats or no seats? Interior space include up to the firewall
Or just the passenger compartment that people can access? Are the vents taped off? Many variables.
And are we talking living moving bees, or just dead bees? Bc I would think you’d need to calculate space for flying around for living bees.
Eleshar24
It may be a pseudoproblem stemming from different understanding of what "fits into" means and what state the bees find themselves in. 1/2
If we assume initially living bees clumped together, free flying bees expected to survive, or bees finely ground to a paste, compressed, 1/2
dried out and injected with a high pressure pump will all give very different numbers. 2/2
relsky
I could have immediately told you that billions or trillions was wrong. The average person does not have a grasp on just HOW big those are.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
Trillion may as well be an imaginary number (not i, I mean like "Fucktillion"). It's mind bogglingly massive
Amitty
157,452 Lexus’ for a trillion bees. That’s only marginally different than 1. /s
Also, thousands is way too few. Most people would guess that a hive contains more than a thousand bees (~50000), and is smaller than a car.
macbi
I don't think it's that obvious. You could fit a billion in using one of the smaller bee species. The way volume scales is counterintuitive.
InfiniteInquiry
You're right. Now I want to know what vessel a billion bees will fit in.
sweetfeetpete
Roughly 150 Lexus GX’s, apparently
GottaGetThoseSeedsMorty
About 630 cubic meters, or approximately ten 40’ shipping containers if my math is right. I’ve double checked none of it
DreadPierateRoberts
A cruise ship?
I will accept it without question. Thanks for doing math!
browsererror
Every number bigger than a million is a zillion. And this is why people don't understand the economy
Shaodyn
A million seconds is about 11 days. A billion seconds is over 31 years.
jscuster
There are several trillion bees on earth. But thankfully only 6 million are currently in my ex-wife’s Lexus.
ButteredNoodleDriver
Thankfully? They can't move! You can't get in! How is that bitch gonna get her ass stung? At most 10k Bees.
michealangleo
yup instantly jotted those off the list. it was between thousands and millions
RenegadeBlob
A million seconds is 11.5 days. A billion seconds is almost 32 years. A trillion is 31,688 years.
iCanOrderPepperoniPizza
This really puts government spending in perspective.
WhoScalesTheScale
I didn't believe you and had to google
rocketpanda
Each one is a factor of 1000 greater, so it would be 11.5 days x 1000 = 11,500 days. 31.7 yrs x 1000 = 31,700 yrs.
Nood1e
So, how many seconds can fit in a Lexus?
DarkBusterBaron
There’s a movie called out of time where time is used as currency and if you run out of time you die the working class usually has less 1/2
Than a week the rich people have centuries.
goldenflax
This is a really helpful analogy for the disparity between regular people and billionaires!
TheBlockheadsHadTheRightIdea
Depends on the currency though! I've been issuing billions in my own currency to many people. Could I interest you in some pocket sand?
johnhatten2
people dont understand how long 31688 years is
Well duh earth is only 2021 years old!
Sharks are older though, cause they don't live in earth, they live in water.
Exactly! Someone who gets it!
eggman989
If you liquified the bees first I think we could bump that up to 15 - 20 million bees. Let me get my old blender.
Bmxtucker
GraemeDynard
I said a few million after watching a beekeeper moving bees from one hive to another, casually mention it was about 50k bees.
BillHubbard
How many cubic feet go in one shoe? Asking for the metric community.
Admineral
JonWallace1985
But that only works if they stack perfectly. Otherwise you need to find the optimal stacking pattern.
TheObstinateOne
It now occurs to me that all those "that happened" people are so, because they were never blessed with these formative experiences.
HeartsAndStars
Exactly. Everyone's got a blindspot.
freckledkink
I know! This sounds exactly like the kind of thing my family argues about.
admeaz0123
Every now and then my family argues about whether purple or green ketchup was more disgusting and how much both traumatized our childhoods
freckledkink
?
fartymarty42
Klnwltrnk
Now are we just stuffing the bees into the car, or are we letting them turn it into a hive?
iAlwaysUpvoteMN
That doesn’t take into account packing. You telling me you couldn’t pack more crushed bees into that Lex? Equation way too simple
Frederf
Do you slap the roof and say "this baby can fit so many bees in it" or not? I feel this is a critical parameter.
freckledkink
When I was a rental car agent, people would ask me how big the trunk of the cars were. I would tell them they could fit however many adult
freckledkink
Bodies inside. Like, the full size car trunk would fit 3 bodies if put in tetris style. I got a lot of weird looks but some people got my
freckledkink
Humor after being crammed on a plane for hours.
UrbanNorthern
Lotta tension in this family
CaptainClarification
I'm fairly certain it's actually 6,358,500 bees, according to the data he gave. He's trying to short this guy like 7k bees.
Enigma8246
They don't specify model year of the GX. Let the fighting resume.
ASwedishDuck
They didn't specify the kind of bee either. Apis Dorsata is twice as long as Apis Cerana.
NimbleStampcrab
Bees? This whole thing is ridiculous. What they should be asking is, "How many wasps can you fit in a Lexus GX?"
prattlepro
Colopty
That assumes perfect packing efficiency though, as if the bees are liquid.
brotherbuzz
Now THAT is how a community is suppose to work!
DaveSamsonite
Just five or six Beyoncé of them.
WhyCantIBeFunny
Great, now Americans will measure car capacity in terms of bees…
HelpfulCorn
We really need @UnitConversionBot here
SodomySnake
nomorehate
woozle
Pfffftit
What if you use a Cuisinart ?
strongface4400
Lmfao. At least its not a covid fight. I find this argument to be a sign of hope?... im being serious.
TheChunguskaEvent
not a smart family
xyxyxyxy31
Ryebread91
Hopefully the siblings are kids. If adult and think trillions they're morons.
drandolph
You can tell that some of them would take horse deworming medicine because a facebook post said so.
skyconb
Or a really smart lazy person who knows exactly what to say to get random internet strangers to do all the research for them
ScroopyNoopers0
That tension probably lies deeper than bees
elhigh
Clearly. The facts were easily attainable with just a minute's worth of googling.
Nathanyel
Not sure if pun was intended...
ExtraJudicial
Many people have a difficult time with the concept of a billion anything and a trillion is just a ludicrous amount.
Espeer
On the other hand, a million is easy to visualize. It's a hundred on each edge of a cube.
Biopunk22
Trillions... how could you come to that conclusion
lichenit
Maybe there's a mini bee for every bee, and a mini bee for every mini bee and so forth.
LordFancypantsicus
Nevertheless somehow wealthy though, if their first choice of car for this thought experiment is a Lexus.
TheChunguskaEvent
ehhh. Even the luxury trim is only like $65k-ish.
RogueKitsune
"Only"?!
TheChunguskaEvent
yeah it is low-to-mid range of luxury full-size SUV segment
LordFancypantsicus
Um, I just bought a 2018 Toyota for 20k and that stretched my budget. If you can afford 65k I'd say you're doing pretty good.
MaladaptedMedic
It’s 5 seconds of googling followed by 10 seconds of math. Definitely not a smart family if it’s led to this much strife
mikeatike
Is Wolfram alpha still a thing? (Volume of honey bee) * (interior capacity of Lexus GX)
mikeatike
Eh it failed
icantheicanoclast
It is, but I tried it, dosent work
Gryffindorky
But does that include a/the trunk?
shadowmoon522
didyouseewhatgodjustdidtousman
LOL trillions
CognosNerd
Bees are not perfect cubes, so there will be some loss in packing (assuming you're not crushing). Optimally packed spheres lose around 26%.
davidaduke127001
This is actually correct. Live bees would also take more volume unless they we're compressed
GandolfFood
I figured they were liquified, but yeah.
InkGoat
I once won a round of trivia by guessing the number of o's in a can of spaghetti-o's by estimating volumes and guessing the packing density.
PrincessNausicaa
I also thought that they might need some space to movie if they're alive.
CognosNerd
Bees are more like cylinders, so let's drop the loss rate to 13%. Instead of 6,351,111, at most you can pack is around 5,525,466.
Buddha7
Don't bees swarm to kill things with heat? You figuring to give these bees some room to breathe, or y'all just want a car full of dead bees?
ijdod
They’re in a car, just turn on the A/C. /joke
phunkiejunkie
We also have to think about how much the bees on the bottom support. At a certain point, will they squish? Is a pile of bee goo still a bee?
Septcanmat
This reminds me of the mole of moles.
SilverHarvest
Sad part is that is actually easy to find info and figure out. Must not be tearing apart or high priority that much if can't do that little.
PowerToAllThePeople
Some people really just aren't smart enough to understand how to properly search for something for themselves.
Twinklepot
Well that stung
amp99
Maybe they want independent answers, rather than allowing someone involved or with a personal stake to resolve it?
SilverHarvest
That would be one of the times I show my entire work. So it can be easily reproduced. Vs where I can cut steps because memorization.
boevis
Ah yes, because basic math needs to be independently verified.
amp99
Heh, this is a family dispute; no place for logic! ;)
AnathemaNoreh
Maybe the fights are about semantics. Trunk space? What if they're in the vents? Glove box?
touhi2000
Cargo space?
CarlottaVonSprockett
Yeah. I could see an argument in my family including whether we’re packing them head to stinger, or if we’re leaving room for them to fly.
XEndeadX
They don't want to do math, they just want to be right.
Macynist
I know plenty people that can’t calculate this sort of thing. They can divide on a calculator but not imagine or find what to divide by what
CaptainYesterday
But does the answer account for different interior bits? Stick or manual? Also, seats or no seats? Interior space include up to the firewall
CaptainYesterday
Or just the passenger compartment that people can access? Are the vents taped off? Many variables.
CarlottaVonSprockett
And are we talking living moving bees, or just dead bees? Bc I would think you’d need to calculate space for flying around for living bees.
Eleshar24
It may be a pseudoproblem stemming from different understanding of what "fits into" means and what state the bees find themselves in. 1/2
Eleshar24
If we assume initially living bees clumped together, free flying bees expected to survive, or bees finely ground to a paste, compressed, 1/2
Eleshar24
dried out and injected with a high pressure pump will all give very different numbers. 2/2
relsky
I could have immediately told you that billions or trillions was wrong. The average person does not have a grasp on just HOW big those are.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
Trillion may as well be an imaginary number (not i, I mean like "Fucktillion"). It's mind bogglingly massive
Amitty
157,452 Lexus’ for a trillion bees. That’s only marginally different than 1. /s
ASwedishDuck
Also, thousands is way too few. Most people would guess that a hive contains more than a thousand bees (~50000), and is smaller than a car.
macbi
I don't think it's that obvious. You could fit a billion in using one of the smaller bee species. The way volume scales is counterintuitive.
InfiniteInquiry
You're right. Now I want to know what vessel a billion bees will fit in.
sweetfeetpete
Roughly 150 Lexus GX’s, apparently
GottaGetThoseSeedsMorty
About 630 cubic meters, or approximately ten 40’ shipping containers if my math is right. I’ve double checked none of it
DreadPierateRoberts
A cruise ship?
InfiniteInquiry
I will accept it without question. Thanks for doing math!
browsererror
Every number bigger than a million is a zillion. And this is why people don't understand the economy
Shaodyn
A million seconds is about 11 days. A billion seconds is over 31 years.
jscuster
There are several trillion bees on earth. But thankfully only 6 million are currently in my ex-wife’s Lexus.
ButteredNoodleDriver
Thankfully? They can't move! You can't get in! How is that bitch gonna get her ass stung? At most 10k Bees.
michealangleo
yup instantly jotted those off the list. it was between thousands and millions
RenegadeBlob
A million seconds is 11.5 days. A billion seconds is almost 32 years. A trillion is 31,688 years.
iCanOrderPepperoniPizza
This really puts government spending in perspective.
WhoScalesTheScale
I didn't believe you and had to google
rocketpanda
Each one is a factor of 1000 greater, so it would be 11.5 days x 1000 = 11,500 days. 31.7 yrs x 1000 = 31,700 yrs.
Nood1e
So, how many seconds can fit in a Lexus?
DarkBusterBaron
There’s a movie called out of time where time is used as currency and if you run out of time you die the working class usually has less 1/2
DarkBusterBaron
Than a week the rich people have centuries.
goldenflax
This is a really helpful analogy for the disparity between regular people and billionaires!
TheBlockheadsHadTheRightIdea
Depends on the currency though! I've been issuing billions in my own currency to many people. Could I interest you in some pocket sand?
johnhatten2
people dont understand how long 31688 years is
WhoScalesTheScale
Well duh earth is only 2021 years old!
Nood1e
Sharks are older though, cause they don't live in earth, they live in water.
WhoScalesTheScale
Exactly! Someone who gets it!