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inthepines
And why should I enable popups? What year is this?
Archrid
Cars are pretty bad with this sort of thing nowadays. The manufacturers of cars have been selling driving data of their customers to their insurance companies so their rates will go up if they "brake too hard" or something like that.
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
And now I have apps and sites, like Uphold, who won't even let you take your money out unless you send them not only the front and back of your ID card, but also a face selfie. I bought some DOGE coin long before Elon fell off the deep end, and my total was up to nearly $1,000. A nice jump from my original investment. And I wanted out. I've wanted out for a while now. But I absolutely refuse to send uphold my ID and a selfie. So fuck it, those jackasses can keep my money. Pricks.
nothingtolurkhere
Ryebread91
You hear that imgur? I WILL SUBSCRIBE AND FOLLOW the poster if I want. I'm well aware of how to do so.
kerms
They're not going to stop. They're farming your data, and it will take an act of Congress to stop that. And uhh...yeah....about that....
MagnumRadhard
I want my CRT....
(cathode ray tube)
banjak
AMEN!
VaginaPedant
I saw a suggestion that we refer to "notifications" as "interruptions". Call them what they are so "I turned off interruptions" sounds really positive and productive.
lrateyourrig
Yeah tell that to Imgur. Now every time i follow someone i have to way for this piece of shit app to open my notification settings so i can close it. Oh and every time a favorite a post it automatically has me follow them. What the fuck is this?
Relictivity
Submenu of a submenu of a submenu can go to hell too! Where are my buttons and knobs like the Jetsons???
WitchIrkalla
I want my buttons, nobs, and switches back so much. I hate touch screens!
I want tech from Firefly, with nobs and switches. I wand Steel Battalion mech controls not menu, after menu, or finnicky touch screens. I have a mechanical keyboard shaped like a typewriter for a reason!
There's too many screens, and not enough quiet. Why do we need to be constantly distracted with them everywhere?!
diezl97
Yeah fuck touchscreens in cars and appliances.
ThoughtGuy
Very much this.
Also, can we please have a universally adopted set of rules for passwords. I don't care what the rules are, I just want to be able to use the same PW for everything. As it stands, every platform/app/site/etc has different rules regarding length and special characters so I have to have 83 passwords. Well guess what? I can't remember 83 fucking passwords so I have to write them all down to know what goes with what. And that's even more insecure than one strong PW for everything.
fractalsphere
Dug out my old Motorola Razr V3 out of a box the other day while cleaning. Seriously, I could go back to that - text and call. That'd be enough.
ThoughtGuy
The only smart feature I value on my phone is bluetooth and storage for music.
GirdleTurtle
It’s a weird dual mentality: We think everyone wants this feature, but we also believe no one knows how to use it so we need to auto-enable and throw it at you.
Just let me know it exists in a simple help/about page. If I need/want it enabled I’ll figure it out. Just don’t make your interface obtuse.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Just move to the penguin. Linux does not judge
barbarian818
As much as I am a linux fan (using as my only desktop since 2005) the state of linux phones is pretty dismal compared to Apple and Android. Quoting Tuxphones "Hi Hacker News! The devices linked in this article are not yet suitable for daily use. If you are not familiar with terminals, kernel panics, disappointing battery life, or a lack of mobile-friendly applications in general, do not take one of these devices as anything like your "daily driver" phone. "
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Just Grep the kernel
DeltaBladeX
I remember buying an SNK game on the Google Play store, Blazing Star, and turns out it can't "access storage" to download game data without being able to track your location. Fucking bullshit.
Xenarion
A lot of mobile games use access storage to download and store game data on the fly without needed an update on the Play Store. Modern Android still restrict apps access to their own folders, unless you explicitly give access to more (which I had to do for music and file browser apps). The location one, however, probably doesn't have any good reason.
DeltaBladeX
Oh, you confirm that as well, but it won't start if you then deny the location access, and revoking it later prevents the game from launching. It wasn't even in there originally, going by reviews, they added it later. I'm glad it didn't cost me anything, I grabbed it with store points, but still sucks.
manhands
I’m a software engineer, and I hate modern software. It’s overly complicated. It arrogantly assumes you know all their product names, history, and where to find answers. Nothing is easy. I’m embarrassed for my profession.
rex314
I'd say it mostly isn't software engineers making those decisions. But tangentially to the whole theme here, just yesterday I told my SO "In the past, companies used to do everything they could to keep their customers happy. Nowadays, they do everything they can to find the line where customers will still just barely tolerate them. It's no wonder people are pissed off all the time." (This was in response to UPS shenanigans a friend reminded me of - trying to avoid performing services paid for)
qtRaven
Also Social Media all requiring a phone# now to create an account. Screw you.
duktayp
We need a cc # .... To verify you're 18+
Frederf
My birthday begins with a 1
bassaro
Jesus?
kmikl
MMDDYYYY? I mean, mine does too!
DukeDarkwood
So does mine. But it ALSO begins with a 1 in ISO-8601.
MajorasTerribleFate
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. But what about in ISO 13216?
DukeDarkwood
I don't think my date of birth translates well to 'child car seat' format.
ItsMoreComplicatedThanThis
That's enshittification. Putting ever more bullshit into products to *maybe* squeeze a little bit more profit.
Or create a mirage of growth to sell to Wallstreet.
It's the reason why Google has become so bad, why Discord is so bloated, and why you need an account for fucking lightbulbs.
SubTrout
I'm at the stage where I would pay an added premium to NOT get AI shit in a new phone or computer. I also don't need a smart fridge, oven, microwave, toaster, etc.
TheSaltyCaptain
Your wish will be granted sooner than you think.
Then they'll decide to add AI garbage to 'premium', and you'll have to pay even more to upgrade to 'premium plus' to continue having an 'AI-free experience'... Just like they've done with ads.
The only solution is regulations for no-penalty opt-out settings by default.
DWRPIconDumper
I enjoy AI and use it for fun/work. I'm not anti-AI. But I am 100% with you on not needing most things in my house to have it. I don't need AI in Windows, I will launch an AI program when I need it. Please do not do anything extra. I don't even want my car to have Onstar, I will bring my phone with me and it will provide any location services I need, please give me a car that my hobbyist mechanic friends who are old Boomer luddites or lack special computer equipment can probably fix for me.
Ninjainslippers
You're gonna look real stupid when your friends come over and your toaster can't AI toast the image of yoda on a piece of bread.
VibratingNipples
I had to download an app to use a pencil
FishieStardust
I don't want a smart TV
Sh1tMovieGroup
I have a 49" Oled "Monitor", just HDMI/Display ports and an on/off button with a volume up and down, beautiful modern tech panel, no ass hattery..
billstranger
I've a 40" Insignia (future shop brand) TV i paid $199 CAD for about 10 years ago, and a Roku3 box that was 30 or 40 bucks, bought at the same time. They do all the things i need them to, with zero bullshit. Peak tech, imo.
thundercactus
I like having a smart TV because it combines 2 electronics into one. But I hate that I can't install adblock on it, and I hate that samsung TV suddenly decided it needed to play on power up by default and I can't delete that shit off the TV -_-
Hammerwell
Pi-hole is your friend. And the blocklists at firebog.net
anteyeclimbaxe
That's the exact reason to not combine them. Security vulnerability the manufacturer doesn't want to fix? Oh well. Doesn't want to update apps anymore and now services won't let you use them? Too bad. Go with a TV that's a good display and leave the media/interface to something else you actually control. If nothing else, either can be replaced it will.
Xenarion
I keep mine offline to avoid these shits and updates. Instead I either cast from a phone/tablet for Youtube (with adblock browser) or plug in a PC (with uBlock Origin)
TheSaltyCaptain
I regret purchasing a (Samsung) smart TV, and paying money for a TV only for it to cram advertisements into the _main menu_ is downright insulting.
I had to set up a pi-hole on my network just to make it bearable, and the amount of (now blocked) requests it makes back to Samsung is insane.
Eventually I'm going to set up a raspberry pi media centre and stop using the Samsung OS entirely.
SirHonytawk
The smart part isn't the problem. It is the connected part that scrapes your data, downloads ads, makes everything laggy when its updating, ...
Get a smart TV and just don't connect it to any network.
Use it as a dumb TV by attaching a separate computer over HDMI and use it like you want.
Depending on the manufacturer of course, I'd stay away from Roku, but I haven't had any problems with my TLC
Eldibs
My Rokus are blocked from phoning home via a regex rule on my Pi-hole. Works pretty well. The following one, for anyone curious - (ads|captive|logs)\.roku\.com$
ChallengerDeep
Someone posted an FP image about how "Boomer" it is NOT to want to make accounts for things like this. I was sure they were PR for a company
DukeDarkwood
There are things for which making an account makes sense. And then there are things for which it really shouldn't be necessary.
Apps... I'm not entirely opposed, but really, I do most of my computing on a desktop.
Notifications? Hate 'em. Always turn them off. My phone can tell me when I get a call or a text, and that's it.
Lastly, location services should be shot. Outside of a GPS, I see no reason they should ever be a required thing, and very few that would even marginally benefit from them.
SirHonytawk
Boomers are usually the ones making accounts for everything since they think that is the only way to use the service.
wadatahmydamie
Where is it?
ChallengerDeep
/gallery/whats-most-boomer-complaint-you-have-O19gtNz
wadatahmydamie
I don’t get that subtext from it, I think it’s a “what’s something that was simpler when you were younger so now you complain about it” thing, rather than endorsing the practice.
I agree that it’s bullshit of course
ChallengerDeep
It's saying that it's "boomer" (i.e. bad, entitled and not-technologically-savvy) to complain about having to make accounts for ridiculous things.
DVSBSTrD
@OP That'll only happen with regulation, and everyone decided that wasn't cool enough to vote for.
CobainsSarcoma
i have some bad news for those folks about eggs
TransAutisticMakinFARTsGoBallistic
I hate how the most secure mobile option that isn't iOS, GrapheneOS, requires (for good reason)... a Google-brand device. It's ten percent less than a lethal dose of irony, but sooner or later I'm going to need seconds, and I *hate* giving Google money even on refurbished phones.
TransAutisticMakinFARTsGoBallistic
And just today, I went to install Frozen Bubble (an open-source game!) on my phone, discovered the F-Droid version hasn't been updated to work on current Android versions, and had to get it from the Google Store (indirectly, of course). It asked for *network permissions*. THAT GAME HAS ZERO NETWORK FEATURES IN ITS GAMEPLAY, WHAT IS GOING ON.
Skeevethegreat
Agreed! Also, fuck websites that hide certain posts unless you're using their app (looking at you Reddit).
Evi1Gav
And fuck web stores that won't tell me the shipping until I create an account.
mypepperonihasafirstname
Ive been banned for being too mean to MAGAs, but if you don’t make an account you can still see r/leopardsatemyface and that’s all I care about these days lolol
dustygamedev
old.reddit.com, if you use Firefox you can download an extension that auto redirects all Reddit urls to their old url.
bleyjo
use old instead of www in the URL (old dot reddit dot com)
2graves
Reddit hides posts?
MasterMookie
on most mobile browsers it requires you to use the app.
CleverGroom
Nooooo!! Create an account and log in and make more content we can sell to train generative AI so it can create an account and log in and make more content we can sell to train generative AI so it can create an account and log in and make more content we can sell to train generative AI so it can create an account and log in and make more content we can sell to train generative AI so it can create an account and log in and make more content we can sell to train generative AI so it can create an
JustinArnold
Feed llms with llm outputs results in the same issues as repeatedly downloading a picture, posting it, and downloading it from that new post over and over.
vegivamp
The term for what comes out is "Habsburg AI".
Xenarion
I have my browser set to use Desktop mode by default because of shit like that.
whatwhenwherewhyhowwho
Me too
budgetnoms
How so? Do they change the algorithm? Or like you literally can't see them unless you have the app?
Marikhen
IIRC their mobile site tries to get you to use their app to view "adult content."
budgetnoms
That hasn't been my experience at all
Marikhen
So, current day example: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/17wzi68/never_wear_a_butt_plug_to_your_mri_appointment/ shows up with a, "Hey, are you 18+?" message box on my PC and on my phone when Firefox is set to display the desktop version of the site.
On my phone with Firefox displaying the mobile site I see:
Marikhen
Different folks get different strokes. I've had Reddit try to tell me that "Mature Content" topics can only be opened in their app on the page proper as well as toss up pop-ups at the bottom of regular/normal pages saying I should browse the site on their app or using Chrome (up until a couple months ago) or, more recently, just asking if I want to use their app to browse the site, all while making it impossible to interact with the site until I accede to their "request" or close the pop-up. ->
Marikhen
Trying to block the pop-up with uBlock Origin and then undo the lockout on interacting with the site just didn't work out well the last time I tried it on my phone otherwise I'd treat this like all other, "Your experience would be better if you did this thing that is of zero benefit to you and makes your experience less secure while giving us more things to make money off of you from while in no way compensating you for your increased vulnerability or monetizability" messages. >_>
drduffer
Boy howdy I’m with @OP on this one.
Got this from my bank (Chase) the other day:
“We’ve removed your email address from your Zelle account since you haven’t used it in a year”.
I know. It’s there in case I need it. I put it there for a reason. I know all my transactions have used my phone number. I don’t care. That’s irrelevant. I wanted the option and now I have to do something to get it back.
Why? Really, WHY?
HowlingRollercoaster2
probably because its a security vulnerability, but idk really. my credit karma closed me down after a while of being inactive. freaked me out, i thought i got hacked.
SquidBaitBadgerDroid
They told me the same thing awhile back, then someone sent me money recently and it worked fine. Maybe they used my phone number or something else but it wasn’t an issue for me
ItsMoreComplicatedThanThis
As a software engineer, that particular example actually makes sense. You don't want data laying around that may be out of date or unused. Both for security and data protection reasons.
Of course, this seems odd to us, as we're being used to companies selling our data.
vegivamp
Then the correct way to handle it is to ask the bloody user whether it's still accurate.
Developers shouldn't be allowed to call themselves engineers. They don't have the mindset for it - and that's taking as someone who's been doing development since the late 90s.
Come back when you're willing to personally provide 10 years of warranty on every piece of code you write.
ItsMoreComplicatedThanThis
Calm down, grandpa, I'm just offering you a possible explanation.
And if I *was* a Software Developer, I'd have said so.
Believe me, you can tell a difference between a developer and a proper engineer by their work. Often times, you don't even have to look at the code for that.
Your assessment is actually pretty much on target for judging that quality - my oldest work that still runs is 10 years old. Although that's an outlier.
Now, are we done being mean to each other? I don't enjoy that.
vegivamp
My apologies; that was not directed at you personally. My pet peeves have a nasty habit of getting away from me.
ItsMoreComplicatedThanThis
Ya know, there have been a lot of people rude on the Internet. But very few ever apologized. Thanks, I appreciate it.
I hope you have a great day :-) or night, wherever you are.
VeryStableGenius
No vacuum tube ever asked me for the last 4 digits of my social security number.
andexer
Then you haven't been using your vacuum tubes right *wink wink finger guns*
DorkJedi
Lucky! Mine were always asking for weird shit, or telling me to do horrible things.
Bilcosby
Guessing you haven't met my ex yet
Jjinnlyn
I was looking for the ex joke from someone. Thank you!
MrStealYourGiF
Since a CRT is a specialised vacuum tube it was always the vacuum tube doing the asking until LCDs took over.
VeryStableGenius
Dammit...you're right.
kmikl
Really, the CRT was just relaying the request.
TransAutisticMakinFARTsGoBallistic
It was too busy giving unreliable voltage and burning out.
kInADress
Found the transsister!
TransAutisticMakinFARTsGoBallistic
You must've detected me with your transceiver!
kInADress
Indeed I received your transmission loud and clear! 🏳⚧️
NorseEngineering
You might want to know that Apple requires anything with Bluetooth permissions to allow location service permissions as well because technically you can geo-locate someone with Bluetooth. The publishers of a Bluetooth app have no control over the requests for location permissions as long as they use Bluetooth.
HowlingRollercoaster2
maybe its the wine, but im not sure i understand what you are saying here. can you elaborate?
valen00
in short, if something wants to use bluetooth it needs to ask for location permissions as that's the way the OS (android I know and apple if what this guy says is true) is written. The app developers don't have any way around it. The app for your bluetooth widget, earbuds, whatever will need to ask for location permissions to work.
valen00
Android does the same. Bluetooth needs location permissions.
Xenarion
Huh? No it doesn't... I definitely have apps that have the "Nearby devices" permission (aka Bluetook) and not location permissions.
The only time I had to give Location permission when I didn't expect it was when the app needed info about my wifi to connect an external device to said wifi.
valen00
https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/bluetooth/bt-permissions Anything targeting android 11 or lower which is still 12% of the market so many applications still do it that way.
Xenarion
"The CDM system provides a pairing UI on behalf of your app and doesn't require location permissions."
From what I read, they only need location if they don't use the Companion Device Manager and instead manage Bluetooth pairing themselves.
valen00
Read the bit about prior to android 11 at the bottom.