
OlivetheNerd
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This is just a musing of a poll I saw on YouTube about which apocalypse would you try to survive.
All of the options are terrible, and I would probably be one of the first to die regardless of what event would bring the world to its knees.
However, I found the results and the comments really interesting.
It made me ponder the survivability of each apocalyptic situation, and I thought I’d share it for fun!

A lot of people chose the post-nuclear war option, and their reasoning in the comments was: “It’s basically playing Fallout already.”
Unfortunately, that’s not true.
Fallout is a game, which means that it leaves out major aspects to survival.
Radiation damage can either be immediate, or sneak up on you later in life. It should also be noted that radioactive substances can take over a thousand years to decay.
With the air, water, ground, and animals being exposed to radiation, you’re going to end up consuming a certain amount of it.
You could survive the immediate aftermath, but then years later, the cancerous tumors begin to show.
It won’t just be one, either. Extreme radiation exposure can come with multiple tumors in multiple places.
In fact, the population surrounding Chernobyl had crazy high cancer rates for decades. Even now the cancer rate is higher. The image of the father and son are two cancer patients from that area.
The image of the woman with that large tumor was a “radium girl.”
Before digital equipment, glow in the dark equipment was painted with radium-infused paint. It’s a long story that I intend to tell later, but in short: radium girls were factory workers that painted clock dials with radium paint so it would glow in the dark. Years later, they all died of various bone cancers.
In a world without access to doctors or chemotherapy, you’re doomed.
ESPECIALLY if you’ve consumed something contaminated with radium. Your teeth and bones are simply going to fall apart.

Not choosing AI was a personal preference.
I am absolutely terrible with technology. The AI bots would kill me before I could figure out how to send an emoji in this new bizarre world.
That being said, technology does have certain weaknesses.
1.) Hardware is not adaptive like a human brain:
Artificial intelligence is just that, artificial. It can be programmed to a certain point, but it’s not a human brain that changes structure every time something new is learned.
Computer drives are permanent, and have to be manually reprogrammed to include new information. You can use that to your advantage.
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2.) Blunt-force trauma is highly effective
The phone you’re reading this from is capable of many incredible things, but it can easily be reduced to nothing with a hammer.
Sometimes you just have to attack your enemies with a swift silver hammer to the head.
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3.) There’s a reason you never click the extra links on a porn website
It takes one bad virus to completely destroy a computer drive. Since AI relies on software, you could in theory eventually write a virus to overrule it.
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I just personally couldn’t survive it. I’d die almost immediately.

To discuss an alien invasion, we need to have some context:
• The closest star to us is proxima centauri, which is a whopping 4.5 light years away.
• The Parker Solar Probe is the fastest man-made space exploration thingy in the world, traveling at 1% the speed of light.
^ It would take 7,300 years for it to reach Proxima Centauri, by which point it would be dead due to lack of solar energy to fuel it.
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For an alien invasion to work, the aliens would need a few things:
1.) A space shuttle that could sustain life without solar power, as there’s going to be a BIG chunk of empty space with a minimal power source.
2.) A very fast space shuttle that would allow these aliens to still be alive when they reached Earth (or they have crazy long life spans)
3.) They would need to have some high-tech weaponry that is capable of obliterating an asteroid should one get flung their way before they can dodge it
4.) High-tech tools that allow them to breathe different atmospheres, and collect samples, and do whatever the aliens are wanting to do.
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To put it bluntly: aliens that exceed our technological and survival abilities are going to annihilate us. We’d be fucked.

*I just noticed the typo. Correction: If someone bioengineered a virus, they probably created a way for them to be immune to it as well.
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Humans have survived plagues before. That’s not to say that there weren’t devastating damages or that it wasn’t exceedingly difficult.
It’s especially not helpful when you have lunatics that refuse to follow good “avoid sickness protocol.”
But overall as a species, we have experience in surviving illnesses.
It’s also the case that if the virus was man-made, the person that made it probably developed a vaccine of some kind to prevent them from catching it. We just need to find that recipe.
I feel like I stand a better chance in a world that was ravaged by a genetically-engineered pandemic than anywhere else.
I also know to wear a mask and wash my hands, which would probably somewhat improve my chances of surviving.

I hope you had fun reading this post! Most of this was just musing, and not based on real facts.
However, I did do some research on a few things to have a more “educated opinion” on a fictional situation lol.
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Chernobyl Cancer Rates: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/guides/456900/456957/html/nn4page1.stm
Chernobyl Cancer Patient Picture: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/children-born-to-chernobyl-survivors-dont-carry-more-genetic-mutations
Radium Girls (Note: I will be doing a post entirely dedicated to them soon. It’s actually almost done): https://www.afacwa.org/the_forgotten_story_of_the_radium_girls_whose_deaths_saved_thousands_of_workers_lives
Proxima Centauri: https://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/features/cosmic/nearest_star_info.html
Speed of Spacecrafts: https://astronauttomjones.com/2024/05/17/how-long-would-it-take-to-reach-the-nearest-star/
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As for the brain structure changing when we learn, I actually learned that during my studies when I was pursuing an education in psychology + neuroscience.
DingleberryForrest
Nice presentation Olive
KingXizor
I have a minor advantage in that I'm effectively immune to I-131 so long as I still have access to levotheroxine, but where does one source their required daily meds after an apocalypse? As far as I'm aware, you don't, you just accept that in my case fatal hypothyroidism is just ahead.... So I gotta go with aliens or virus, but the virus might be the Stand super-flu in which case it might as well be a nuclear wasteland or total system shutdown. Aliens could also lead to Falling Skies, though...
Th3D0c
I remember reading a paper stating that FO future is now impossible because the power of our current Abomb is so much that fallout would not occur. That's saying that irradiated materials would be shot so high that by the time they come down there would not be much radioactivity left in the dust. Which is from my pov much scarier as it open the door for nuclear warfare.
SuRavSmash11
I prefer AI. Most chips are made using one of a kind hand made machines that are maintained by a ton of humans. If AI wins out then you can retreat to the forest and wilderness where robots would probably rust and after a couple of years they wouldn't be able to maintain themselves or make new parts and eventually die out.
tinydog
What about AI takeover AND nuclear annihilation?
Fun post, thanks.
lazybuthappy
In post nuclear case, not only people are radiated, but also plants and animals needed to eat
afambelafonte
If you live in the cities or the suburbs you die in the nuclear war. If you live 20 miles out from the city you die either in your burning house or from smoke inhalation. If you live way out in the sticks you die from radiation poisoning, starvation, cold or if you are lucky cancer. The people who win are the oblivious people downtown who are vaporized listening to their headphones and never knew what happened.
amdkenobi
That's a very good point. We all have far more first hand experience with dealing with plagues than any of these other threat scenarios.
OlivetheNerd
Exactly. Even more importantly: we learned from them, and adapted to them in various ways.
We can make it through a plague, because we’ve done it time and time again.
That doesn’t mean it isn’t going to suck, though.
imsurroundedbyassholes
Ai would and could look like the faro plauge, aka the horizon timeline.
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
AI for sure.
They require power provided by us... we could reboot before they turned us into batteries....
khopesh87
AI apocalypse, because I've always been polite to Siri & Alexa.
OlivetheNerd
Be nice to everyone. You never know which one is a serial killer or an AI overlord.
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ICountFrom0
Agreed. I'd go out knowing that we're not alone. Cats will probably sneak onto the ships and spread over the entire universe. I call that a win.
sweetfeetpete
Aliens
Helixninja333
Alien occupation 100%. Out of all of these if they turn out evil, at least you might be weird enough for some of them to take you on as a pet or a cat. Or hell, they might legitimately be better than our current form of government. And if they have such good technology and thus didn't hit the Great Filter of greed and fascism, they might be slightly benevolent.
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
This was well thought out and presented. Thank you, and well done.
OlivetheNerd
I’m so glad you liked my post! :)
obarey
Why do I have to survive though?
lightfoot2
I think we're lining up for a political, religious race war. Serious trifecta there.
OlivetheNerd
True, but this little thought exercise was just a tiny break from the real impending doom.