OneDrive is a useful tool if you're a business. Set it up and whatever computer your employees log onto, their files will be there. Best if you have the server onsite of course. It's also useful as an intermittent off-site backup in case your computer catches fire in the summer heat.
They started rewriting the taskbar because the old code was shitty. I mean, it was first built for Windows 95. They're still working on it, but not all features have been added yet, and I believe they mentioned that moving it to another side was something extremely few people used, so it's not high on the list of priorities.
Still waiting for the class action against Microsoft because they started syncing documents to their "cloud" without proper user agreement. In my days that was called data theft.
I feel like the people that hate and decry OneDrive are the same people that would cry when their hard drive dies and they lose all their information because it wasn't backed up to OneDrive.
My father bought a new laptop and then when they went on vacation to a condo (without internet/wifi), he discovered that he had access to none of his files because they were all saved in the cloud by default when he thought they were just saved on the hard drive of the laptop. This was 15 years go. I still don't consider it safe to store personal data in the cloud. Hacked cloud storage by data miners is way more likely than my stuff getting hacked.
First of all. I love the humour on this meme. But some of ya all are actually thinking it's legit advice instead of humour. Apple does that too and in the enteprise environment cloud drives are king. Very useful for multi-device people. I swear y'all need to be forced to do IT support for your relatives to understand why some feature exists in 2024.
I’ve worked in IT for almost 20 years and see the legitimacy of the meme. Windows is not what it used to be and Apple does not annoy you to use iCloud unless you are on a mobile device that doesn’t have local storage.
That actually used to be the case in the start. But that's a feature not a bug. I could go into details but it ain't worth it. But i'm not some blind fanboy. My beef with it is it should be more customizable for people like you or me who need some more oumf. I dream of a .gitignore-like file that I can put my exceptions of what to sync. I've been bitching to MS for ages for that.
Yeah, i have a smaller C: drive, for the OS only and a large F: drive for files (docs, pics, etc) - makes it very easy when I build a new PC or want to reinstall windows. Onedrive decided this is unacceptable, and pulled EVERYTHING back onto the C drive in its own onedrive folder structure instead of just leaving it as-is. It took registry changes to fix afterwards. Now I use my own NAS and I won't allow OD on any PC that i own.
Good for you. But I have to say. The majority of consumers are much much dumber to be able to think they have 2 drives and they can do that. And you have a NAS and all. You sir are a proper power user. Maybe I'm I'm grizzled but the volumes of tech illiteracy I've seen...Haunts me
IT for a big company. Me 2-3 times a month: "Yes, we were able to replace the computer that suddenly died on you. Your important work files? They should be on OneDrive....what? You don't trust OneDrive? Got it. Well, they're all gone due to the disk encryption we can't crack...so yeah. They're safe. In fact they're so safe even YOU can't access them now."
Then ditch Windows. I know it's all played out, but MS will never have your best interest in mind. Mining your data just pays so much better than just selling you an operating system.
Regular folks might be ditching windows, but nearly every business with over a certain amount of employees perpetually leases Office 365 and everything that comes with it. Microsoft has the business world in their grips, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Yep. The fact that they happily let you run it unlicensed with the only downside being a water mark and being unable to change the wallpaper tells you they value customer data extraction more than a one off purchase cost.
Loving technology is weird. Tech is neutral, humans with addresses either do good or bad things with it. I'm glad you've had mostly good experiences with it. OneDrive is not even in the worst 10 technologies we've developed. It is really bad though
Right. A client suggested it would be easier to keep up with their team if I installed Slack on my personal cell phone. I said "Thank you for the suggestion," and didn't. I need that buffer space that is uncontaminated by things I do for other people for money to keep my sanity.
I don't know- remember when we put lead in gas and it practically turned an entire US generation into unfeeling psychopaths who currently are in charge of the US?
That won’t solve OPs problem. All Office Apps now think they know best when it comes to file locations. Even if you *do* want to save to the cloud, they make it a multi-step process to choose where, and the default is silly and cannot be changed
Yup. My one drive filled up and I had 2 options, pay for more storage or delete files to make room. I stopped receiving emails in the downtime while I was out of town. I was waiting to hear about a job application, I was furious. (Yes I have an old Hotmail address that's attached to old job seeking sites)
Holy shit, lol, that EXACT thing happened to me a couple of months back. Still using my Hotmail account, too. I only realized what was going on because I was waiting to hear from my lawyers who called to see why I wasn't responding to their emails. Almost fucked up my divorce
It's a slippery slope when people start accepting garbage quality of any product (including software) as the norm. As soon as a company get's away with it, many will follow, and then it becomes the normal thing to do.Don't encourage this, it hurts everyone (me, you, others) with the exception of the company that sell that product.
Twice a year, I transfer all my Google backup photos (from like, my phone and stuff) to an actual external hard drive. Cause I don't trust the clouds at all.
We definitely hit a peak with technology and now we're going downhill. I saw a comedian joking about how we can charge our heatable shoes through the USB in our couches. We don't need this shit. We need to keep improving what we have, not making more useless crap
I actually tried finding rechargeable hand warmers a couple years ago while on a trip to England, they were experiencing record lows and I hate the waste from Hot Hands and the way you have to boil the reusable ones. Couldn’t find them IRL. But yeah, my end tables came with “usb plugs” and they were just really crappy usb cables that you screwed to the back of the tables. So much waste. :(
yeah, then the disk fails and people come crying and bitching i need to rescue their files... also - onedrive saves the date 'also' in the cloud, not exclusively. there remains a physical copy on the drive. also also onedrive is a very convenient "1" for a 3-2-1 backup strategy.
Ok, not *at all* to excuse one drive and Microsoft data mismanagement, as there are *way* better options for ensuring that data is protected, but I manage machines with all together about 30 drives, and I've seen 4 failures in the past 5 years. Maybe I'm unlucky, maybe they don't make 'em like they used to, but I gotta push back on the implication that it's so rare that it's not necessary to have a plan in place to protect your data.
Better question, How low of a rate would it have to be for you to be for you to not want a back up? I don't do cloud back up, but I sure as tinned beans have multiple drives backing up things I don't want to lose.
In this case, I'm surprised you're being downvoted. Storage devices sometimes fail, no ifs, no buts. Asking how often storage devices fail these days is like questioning why you should wear a seatbelt. Google also recently demonstrated that Google Drive sometimes fails and loses customer data.
Agreed, but they still fail. I repair computers for a living and while I've seen many more HDDs fail, I've seen SSDs fail too (four off the top of my head). One absolutely should still have backups. For any bit of data you don't want to lose, you should have at least one backup. Having said that, OneDrive et al is a shit backup solution partly because it makes one's data more vulnerable.
No, on my new computer it automatically saved everything to the cloud and NOT to my hard drive. Even program files. I had to manually copy everything local, delete it from the cloud, and then I turned the whole fucking cloud off. And the Documents folder points to the cloud, the one that's there by default and used to point to your local drive. So now the one under OneDrive *and* the one that looks like your local one both point to the cloud. I had to go to the C drive and find the real /1
Documents folder and add my own shortcut to it. It's all fucked up. Someone who doesn't know anything about computers would have no fucking clue what was going on. Oh and the best part was that as soon as MS filled up my OneDrive by routing all my files there, they popped up a message that I needed to buy more or my machine would stop working. Fucking ridiculous. What choice would someone have if they couldn't figure out what was going on? MS holds it hostage, basically. /2
I just built a PC for my sister, and one of the first things I had to do was remove OneDrive. It was right out the door locking up her system on startup with it's greedy BS.
That need for all of that is largely why I've stopped using Windows on my personal computers. Windows is just a mess. Win11 is probably the worst OS I've seen.
Biggest thing you should do is uninstall OneDrive. Then remove Remote Desktop. Then if you have win 11, use regedit to get rid of Copilot. Then disable the services that likes to phone home to Microsoft. Then keep an eye on any big Windows updates, because they like to reset that shit.
Then it works perfectly for you. For others, it's a service they neither asked for, or want on their system based on their concerns. Do you not understand privacy, and safety concerns?
Yep, I've built my last couple PCs and only have stuff I need/want on there. Everything goes to my HDD and the only "cloud" I need are my two back up external HDDs that I have connected to it.
It was a snap, I did it with only 1 years experience using a computer, while in my 50s, so proud of myself, LOL. I'm sure a pretty young thing like you can do it. 🙂 Dual boot, ftw.
I've thought about it. I have an Old "all-in-one" that needs some repair. If I don't destroy the motherboard soldering new ports onto it, I'll probably try practicing getting Linux to go on that first since I don't really care if it bricks and ends up at the E-cycle center.
I'll always champion Linux Mint as the first try into linux. Aesthetically similar to windows but with none of the bs. Easy to use, lots of apps and tonnes of support as its a debian base.
And flatpaks make things even easier. Oh and no forced updates.
It automatically uses One Drive to store everything on your desk top. I never noticed before, but when Windows bought out Hotmail (Yes, I use my email account from 1994) I was suddenly using Microsoft Outlook. Got a new computer a few months back, realized I had 'exceeded my storage limit' on One Drive, which meant... I just wasn't getting any new emails for about a month. In my scramble to get rid of that shit I accidently deleted the contents of my Desktop, including all icons, lol. FFS
It's gotten to the point where getting Windows working how I like it is as annoying as Linux, which is freaking annoying, but also kinda nice to finally be able to justify switching
Not a wise idea to run a random script from an article. Especially from a public website(github) as admin on your computer. Even says so in the article. Do a bit more research before postin plz. Alot of peoples comps could get messed up from this with a few lines of errant code.
It's a serious concern though, putting aside that people don't trust MS who are making the damn OS, there's a lot of blind trust placed in random third parties with a "just run it, it'll fix everything" attitude. Even on linux there's a lot of trust in "sudo wget https://example.com/setup.sh | sh" magic convenience
And every year they add more things that the only way to fix it is with registry edits. When I updated to win 11 I had to re add .txt to the "new" options in the right click menu, but don't worry, they have it set up so that creating a blank .bmp file is a permanent addition that you can't remove.
I finally had to disable edge synchronization because it kept overwriting my work profile (that I only use on edge) with my personal information from chrome, which it regularly steals without asking, then I have to scrub all of my data back out of edge and re-set up all my work stuff. Hopefully the registry edit works.
Have fun with it! Your PC will change over time with you, you don’t have to do “all the things” right away. My recommendations for newbies: Get updated drivers for all your hardware. BitDefender or Eset are good AV/Security. 1Password for password management. Search for things like “remove bloat windows” or “windows turn off spying” and then choose with tips you want to implement. Keep your own data backups. Calibrate your monitor. Remember to go outside sometimes.
No, it is answering the question perfectly. Microsoft is forcing more and more insane bullshit into their OS, advertisements and AI bullshit. If you want a de-bloated OS don't use a bloatware filled OS in the first place.
I have Mint on most machines, but I need one Windows pc. One of my Mint PC's has bad day though, screens wont listen to me and chromium fucked up my history. Most of the other days in the year, it's fine.
Yes, step 1: Install linux. I am coming up on my 20 year anniversary of ditching windows completely and every single day microsoft reminds me how right I was to do so. Paying a multi-billion dollar company for the privilege of using your own hardware is insane, and they are shoving more and more insane bullshit into it every single day.
Linux support for games is getting there but there are still MANY games that it does not work with, or that take a lot of fuckery to get working. If you are an avid gamer, I would not recommend using linux for games. At least until you get very familiar with how linux works. Dual booting is always an option.
Yes, Valve have done a lot of great work with Proton to make a hell of a lot of games work through that on linux systems, its as easy as checking a box in the games launch settings to get most games running on linux
It does. Alot of games even run better. HOWEVER, anticheat (the software) does not... so that may lock out certain online games. Squad 44 is currently one of the ones stopping me from just switching.
I've got more than one Mint machine. But I need Windows for Itunes. There is really nothing I've found under Linux that I like better. And for some business stuff, I need Office.
I have libre office, but with the complicated Excel stuff I do, I'm not gonna trust it to be converted perfectly. And I just know my way better round Excel since I've used that for more than 25 years.
I'm sure some people can tell exactly what it does, & if it's safe. The overlap between those people and the ones who are actually going to run that seems rather small
foomf
OneDrive is a useful tool if you're a business. Set it up and whatever computer your employees log onto, their files will be there. Best if you have the server onsite of course.
It's also useful as an intermittent off-site backup in case your computer catches fire in the summer heat.
lurkertron5000
"You don't own shit" - Companies, 2024
nxrble
as an extra “F U” Microsoft locked the toolbar to the bottom of the screen. I want Windows 7 back.
NotThatPrivate
you can unlock it
Leaps
Not on Windows 11. You used to be able to move it to other sides of the screen, now you can't.
Corrodias
They started rewriting the taskbar because the old code was shitty. I mean, it was first built for Windows 95. They're still working on it, but not all features have been added yet, and I believe they mentioned that moving it to another side was something extremely few people used, so it's not high on the list of priorities.
StraightOnThroughTheChompers
There is no "cloud" - it's just someone else's computer. Fuck the cloud!
WorkerLurker
File > Options > Save > Set default local file location to your documents folder or wherever
BillHubbard
Still waiting for the class action against Microsoft because they started syncing documents to their "cloud" without proper user agreement. In my days that was called data theft.
Copperbrat
Here's my paranoid suspicion: AI needs you to cooperate with The Cloud arrangement so it can "learn" stuff by combing through your files.
FlatPlutoSociety
That is not paranoid at all.
reimakurei
Bruh, that's literally what it does. Google does the same thing, it feeds your emails and documents to AI in order to train it.
deathblade369
I feel like the people that hate and decry OneDrive are the same people that would cry when their hard drive dies and they lose all their information because it wasn't backed up to OneDrive.
Tsamane
Remember, dont use Adobe anymore, they pretty much made it so they can steal anything anyone uploads to their cloud.
BryanTenn
My father bought a new laptop and then when they went on vacation to a condo (without internet/wifi), he discovered that he had access to none of his files because they were all saved in the cloud by default when he thought they were just saved on the hard drive of the laptop. This was 15 years go. I still don't consider it safe to store personal data in the cloud. Hacked cloud storage by data miners is way more likely than my stuff getting hacked.
vman2000
I like that I can log into any computer at work and all of my documents are right there where I can find them.
alisa2089
I worked in IT before cloud computing….and you could do this then. Local servers held the data.
Subtilico
I remember when I had an 8GB HDD, and partitioning it in 3 parts for the OS, games and progs, and datafiles.
joinha
I still do keep all my files in a external drive - full weekly backups
Memory is really cheap nowadays
wanderleisantosf10
And yet, it's the best advice to give to people so they don't lose their files and family photos.
alisa2089
You can still backup to something that isn’t in the cloud. We haven’t always had cloud storage and we did just fine. ;)
wanderleisantosf10
And if the house burns down you lose it all.
SilverFoxChaser
You own nothing anymore. Everything is leased to you based on the license you agreed to upon purchase of your... everything.
devnullroot
First of all. I love the humour on this meme. But some of ya all are actually thinking it's legit advice instead of humour. Apple does that too and in the enteprise environment cloud drives are king. Very useful for multi-device people. I swear y'all need to be forced to do IT support for your relatives to understand why some feature exists in 2024.
alisa2089
I’ve worked in IT for almost 20 years and see the legitimacy of the meme. Windows is not what it used to be and Apple does not annoy you to use iCloud unless you are on a mobile device that doesn’t have local storage.
yuscha
I wouldn't mind OD if it didn't restructure my files+folders on my actual PC and add ugly checkmark icons. Either work invisibly or GTFO
devnullroot
That actually used to be the case in the start. But that's a feature not a bug. I could go into details but it ain't worth it. But i'm not some blind fanboy. My beef with it is it should be more customizable for people like you or me who need some more oumf. I dream of a .gitignore-like file that I can put my exceptions of what to sync. I've been bitching to MS for ages for that.
yuscha
Yeah, i have a smaller C: drive, for the OS only and a large F: drive for files (docs, pics, etc) - makes it very easy when I build a new PC or want to reinstall windows. Onedrive decided this is unacceptable, and pulled EVERYTHING back onto the C drive in its own onedrive folder structure instead of just leaving it as-is. It took registry changes to fix afterwards. Now I use my own NAS and I won't allow OD on any PC that i own.
devnullroot
Good for you. But I have to say. The majority of consumers are much much dumber to be able to think they have 2 drives and they can do that. And you have a NAS and all. You sir are a proper power user. Maybe I'm I'm grizzled but the volumes of tech illiteracy I've seen...Haunts me
SomebodyalreadytookMyPants
Amen. I see a post like this and think everyone should be forced to work in IT for a month.
thecrookinthehook
Or to f-ing dropbox!!!!
JasonThorn
IT for a big company. Me 2-3 times a month: "Yes, we were able to replace the computer that suddenly died on you. Your important work files? They should be on OneDrive....what? You don't trust OneDrive? Got it. Well, they're all gone due to the disk encryption we can't crack...so yeah. They're safe. In fact they're so safe even YOU can't access them now."
killbillsexwife
I fucking hate one drive
Chais
Then ditch Windows. I know it's all played out, but MS will never have your best interest in mind. Mining your data just pays so much better than just selling you an operating system.
cjandstuff
Regular folks might be ditching windows, but nearly every business with over a certain amount of employees perpetually leases Office 365 and everything that comes with it. Microsoft has the business world in their grips, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Hrafna55
Sadly you are correct. Front office certainly.
Hrafna55
Yep. The fact that they happily let you run it unlicensed with the only downside being a water mark and being unable to change the wallpaper tells you they value customer data extraction more than a one off purchase cost.
gtotherizzle
I love technology, always have. But this is the worst technological achievement mankind has ever developed. Yep, even worse than that
lurkertron5000
Loving technology is weird. Tech is neutral, humans with addresses either do good or bad things with it. I'm glad you've had mostly good experiences with it. OneDrive is not even in the worst 10 technologies we've developed. It is really bad though
yuugian
It is a great and amazing technological achievement and could solve many problems. The problem, as always, is the people ruining it for their own gain
iamlegendinjapan
I love technology but not as much as as you I see but yes I love technology always and forever
gateguardian91
Being forced is the worst. Being able to access work files at home and on my phone is fine. Just don't force everything to it.
ThomKlanc
I 100% refuse to access work documents on my phone.
gateguardian91
100% I olny do this for "I told you, so" moments
NotSoFastener
Right. A client suggested it would be easier to keep up with their team if I installed Slack on my personal cell phone. I said "Thank you for the suggestion," and didn't. I need that buffer space that is uncontaminated by things I do for other people for money to keep my sanity.
TravelingTableTop
I don't know- remember when we put lead in gas and it practically turned an entire US generation into unfeeling psychopaths who currently are in charge of the US?
Corrodias
What, cloud storage? It's actually quite handy in many cases.
amp99
Even worse than this?
SarcasticComment
Wait. Are you saying we shouldn't nuke the planet with C02 offsets from unhelpful AI no one asked for?
MimirOfTheBifrostTeats
Why don't you disable it or even uninstall it? You can even turn it off in the Startup Apps settings so it doesn't launch automatically.
imgonnahavetoask
That won’t solve OPs problem. All Office Apps now think they know best when it comes to file locations. Even if you *do* want to save to the cloud, they make it a multi-step process to choose where, and the default is silly and cannot be changed
CalamitySteve
File > Save As > Browse > and then choose a location on your PC, but be careful, because OneDrive is still a GD option
JohnBigboote74
I own my computer, but I'm only leasing the documents folder with an option to buy.
FuManLu
Oooof. You just nailed it my friend.
HandoB4Javert
Lovelyidoit
Um no?
What year do you think it is 2013?
You can't "buy" anything now.
Subscription only bruv.
ADDGirl
Yup. My one drive filled up and I had 2 options, pay for more storage or delete files to make room.
I stopped receiving emails in the downtime while I was out of town.
I was waiting to hear about a job application, I was furious.
(Yes I have an old Hotmail address that's attached to old job seeking sites)
NotThatPrivate
Holy shit, lol, that EXACT thing happened to me a couple of months back. Still using my Hotmail account, too. I only realized what was going on because I was waiting to hear from my lawyers who called to see why I wasn't responding to their emails. Almost fucked up my divorce
UsualLoser
Bit dramatic ain't you? You just have to change the path. Yes it sucks and yes it is terrible design but it is a 3mins change
LifeSuxAndThenYouDie
It's a slippery slope when people start accepting garbage quality of any product (including software) as the norm. As soon as a company get's away with it, many will follow, and then it becomes the normal thing to do.Don't encourage this, it hurts everyone (me, you, others) with the exception of the company that sell that product.
UsualLoser
You a vepted far worse on many other aspects for years. Changing my documents save location is a registry key to change.
ApsychicRat
i kinda like one drive in my corporate environment.
lostinamapfactory
And then my computer is like "That's my file, I don't know you!"
snrsquishy101
POCKET RAM
4Astaroth
"Please contact the Administrator." - "But, isn't that me?" - "No Administrator found."
JavaCofe
mystik42
tarataqa
My name is Jay Pegg.
cousteau
Thanks for perpetuating this.
erikleorga
I expected to see this.
Zestykitten
Twice a year, I transfer all my Google backup photos (from like, my phone and stuff) to an actual external hard drive. Cause I don't trust the clouds at all.
cousteau
Yeah they look rainy today
alisa2089
I still backup to an external as well. As a programmer I don’t trust ANYTHING. I don’t even have a smart thermostat.
Zestykitten
We definitely hit a peak with technology and now we're going downhill. I saw a comedian joking about how we can charge our heatable shoes through the USB in our couches. We don't need this shit. We need to keep improving what we have, not making more useless crap
alisa2089
I actually tried finding rechargeable hand warmers a couple years ago while on a trip to England, they were experiencing record lows and I hate the waste from Hot Hands and the way you have to boil the reusable ones. Couldn’t find them IRL. But yeah, my end tables came with “usb plugs” and they were just really crappy usb cables that you screwed to the back of the tables. So much waste. :(
VCJunky
DO I LOOK LIKE I KNOW WHAT A ONEDRIVE IS? I JUST WANT A PICTURE OF A GOD DANG KING OF THE HILL MEME
B99Reactions
You mean Skydrive
DownvotesStarWars
https://imgur.com/Q1ojlVW
TheGreatAtomsk
yeah, then the disk fails and people come crying and bitching i need to rescue their files... also - onedrive saves the date 'also' in the cloud, not exclusively. there remains a physical copy on the drive. also also onedrive is a very convenient "1" for a 3-2-1 backup strategy.
astronomypictures
Yeah just don’t make it the default in a horrific save dialogue would be nice.
neonkrypton
I don’t wish to become Microsoft’s product as they scan my files for their own use. I have a backup strategy that works well without Microsoft.
SomebodyalreadytookMyPants
this, so much this.
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KuldFyt
Ok, not *at all* to excuse one drive and Microsoft data mismanagement, as there are *way* better options for ensuring that data is protected, but I manage machines with all together about 30 drives, and I've seen 4 failures in the past 5 years. Maybe I'm unlucky, maybe they don't make 'em like they used to, but I gotta push back on the implication that it's so rare that it's not necessary to have a plan in place to protect your data.
JesaraB
when a building fire happens... end of list.
TheGreatAtomsk
if it makes you happy, replace it with "drives"...
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ManByTechnicality
Better question, How low of a rate would it have to be for you to be for you to not want a back up? I don't do cloud back up, but I sure as tinned beans have multiple drives backing up things I don't want to lose.
mikeymikec
In this case, I'm surprised you're being downvoted. Storage devices sometimes fail, no ifs, no buts. Asking how often storage devices fail these days is like questioning why you should wear a seatbelt. Google also recently demonstrated that Google Drive sometimes fails and loses customer data.
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mikeymikec
Agreed, but they still fail. I repair computers for a living and while I've seen many more HDDs fail, I've seen SSDs fail too (four off the top of my head). One absolutely should still have backups. For any bit of data you don't want to lose, you should have at least one backup. Having said that, OneDrive et al is a shit backup solution partly because it makes one's data more vulnerable.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
No, on my new computer it automatically saved everything to the cloud and NOT to my hard drive. Even program files. I had to manually copy everything local, delete it from the cloud, and then I turned the whole fucking cloud off. And the Documents folder points to the cloud, the one that's there by default and used to point to your local drive. So now the one under OneDrive *and* the one that looks like your local one both point to the cloud. I had to go to the C drive and find the real /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Documents folder and add my own shortcut to it. It's all fucked up. Someone who doesn't know anything about computers would have no fucking clue what was going on. Oh and the best part was that as soon as MS filled up my OneDrive by routing all my files there, they popped up a message that I needed to buy more or my machine would stop working. Fucking ridiculous. What choice would someone have if they couldn't figure out what was going on? MS holds it hostage, basically. /2
commentsivehadafew
Print every file and save it in your basement, just to be safe
NightOwlRally
And don't forget to laminate the important ones to protect from water damage, stored inside a fire safe to protect against fire damage.
DianNaoChong
A basement? In this economy?
DarkRedCape
But what if your basement is filled with lewd stuff?
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Well it would be once you've printed all your files.
Korbo
I spend the first day or two of new PC ownership, setting up hardware, unfucking windows, etc. Turn off all unneeded bloat.
SilverDust133
Write a batch delete file for Windows Powershell… it’s so fast and gratifying.
hannibalhague
Add or remove programs!! That works well
JHB62
I will happily use Onedrive on my work PC for my work files. I have an external hard drive for my home PC and pictures.
shitheadtookmyname
I spend the first couple days happy I don't use Windows
DarthAndy
And yet some people will argue that Windows > Mac for exactly this reason
iamnoobplzhelp
Get tiny10 or tiny11. Makes a custom iso with the bloat removed.
Ranier
Revo Uninstaller is a great way to ditch most apps and bloatware programs which you can't get rid of via the control panel
BeardOnTheInside
I just built a PC for my sister, and one of the first things I had to do was remove OneDrive. It was right out the door locking up her system on startup with it's greedy BS.
ahleron
That need for all of that is largely why I've stopped using Windows on my personal computers. Windows is just a mess. Win11 is probably the worst OS I've seen.
rumepowat
I hear there's a windows 11 "government" edition out there with all the bloat removed. It's not official, but they went so far as to remove MS Paint.
2or3godzillas
Or you could just not use Windows
blackguard89
JEsus fucking christ I had a meltdown when I started hearing what 11 comes with. I am still on 10 and I so desperately don't want to upgrade
baals
Don't get hp
martineb72
Biggest thing you should do is uninstall OneDrive. Then remove Remote Desktop. Then if you have win 11, use regedit to get rid of Copilot. Then disable the services that likes to phone home to Microsoft. Then keep an eye on any big Windows updates, because they like to reset that shit.
Frostedjakes
Are you talking about RDS?
innerwrathchild
I don’t understand the hate. OD is extremely useful to have access to my files on multiple machines when/wherever I travel.
wilkgr
I use Nextcloud for syncing. I do not want to use OneDrive nor do I want it to show up
sortofkindamadbutnotreally
Im surprised your username is "defnotmicrosoft". For real tho, OD is a fine service, just implemented extremely obnoxiously.
sortofkindamadbutnotreally
Isnt**
Korbo
Then it works perfectly for you. For others, it's a service they neither asked for, or want on their system based on their concerns. Do you not understand privacy, and safety concerns?
SherMattLockSmith
Defenestrate my dude.
mfinerty1
*Linux has entered the chat*
Ogremite
Rufus utility for the install takes away half the work.
jammer909
Pc decrappifier, CCleaner, Spybot - Search and Destroy.
fartser
Yep, I've built my last couple PCs and only have stuff I need/want on there. Everything goes to my HDD and the only "cloud" I need are my two back up external HDDs that I have connected to it.
Colopty
Could also get Linux...
PoodyCZ
Could also shoot yourself in the leg
Nykidemus
More games are available on linux now than used to be, but a lot of them still require windows architecture.
ManByTechnicality
Could, but I'm not well versed in it. I'd rather practice on a computer I don't need before fucking up the one I do need.
diezl97
You could also get a Mac. Those come out-of-the-box ready to rock. I do all my important stuff on Mac: Windows box I built is only for gaming.
Nofoxlefttogive
It was a snap, I did it with only 1 years experience using a computer, while in my 50s, so proud of myself, LOL. I'm sure a pretty young thing like you can do it. 🙂 Dual boot, ftw.
SherMattLockSmith
They have liveboot USB sticks for a reason.
Treius
This is an under appreciated approach
sauvrel
Look into Oracle VirtualBox. Free, accessible virtualization software. Try the Lunix before you commit to dual booting or anything. :)
Colopty
Sounds like a dual boot setup might be good for you.
ManByTechnicality
I've thought about it. I have an Old "all-in-one" that needs some repair. If I don't destroy the motherboard soldering new ports onto it, I'll probably try practicing getting Linux to go on that first since I don't really care if it bricks and ends up at the E-cycle center.
CoffeeDaemon
I'll always champion Linux Mint as the first try into linux. Aesthetically similar to windows but with none of the bs. Easy to use, lots of apps and tonnes of support as its a debian base.
And flatpaks make things even easier. Oh and no forced updates.
NorwegianJim
I am dual booting W11 and Mint at the moment, but don't really see any reason to keep Windows any more
NorwegianJim
Been using "Linux on the desktop" for about.. 18 years now (ugh, I am NOT old!) And it has come SUCH a long way
darkwingduckInaMiniSkirt
WHat all do you need to do? One Drive came with mine too; I just simply didn't use it. I don't remember having to turn off much of anything.
NotThatPrivate
It automatically uses One Drive to store everything on your desk top. I never noticed before, but when Windows bought out Hotmail (Yes, I use my email account from 1994) I was suddenly using Microsoft Outlook.
Got a new computer a few months back, realized I had 'exceeded my storage limit' on One Drive, which meant... I just wasn't getting any new emails for about a month.
In my scramble to get rid of that shit I accidently deleted the contents of my Desktop, including all icons, lol.
FFS
darkwingduckInaMiniSkirt
Ah,so even if you don't intentionally use it, it happens automatically. Shit
NoBergine
Privacy.sexy
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sabrae
No, it does not
JustAnotherRabidToaster
(IT Admin here) It depends on the version of Win10 you use. The LTSC versions do not, but the Home and now the "Pro" versions will.
kithanDog
Win 11 snuck in moving mydoc to /OneDrive/docs without telling me. That kinda stuff winds me up
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SharkLove
But it's my data! I literally created it...
kruug
You still own your data.
montyman185
It's gotten to the point where getting Windows working how I like it is as annoying as Linux, which is freaking annoying, but also kinda nice to finally be able to justify switching
HandoB4Javert
https://lifehacker.com/you-can-get-rid-of-windows-bloatware-with-one-command-1848707156 iwr -useb https://git.io/debloat|iex
NothingButTheWorst
Standardize un-fucking Microsoft's ass-backwards software.
Lurkerderker
Not a wise idea to run a random script from an article. Especially from a public website(github) as admin on your computer. Even says so in the article. Do a bit more research before postin plz. Alot of peoples comps could get messed up from this with a few lines of errant code.
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Asadsadsadclown
Doesn't matter either way, GitHub page is 404d
diezl97
Seriously what kind of Russian/Chinese spyware does that script install?
aducksayswhat
It's a serious concern though, putting aside that people don't trust MS who are making the damn OS, there's a lot of blind trust placed in random third parties with a "just run it, it'll fix everything" attitude. Even on linux there's a lot of trust in "sudo wget https://example.com/setup.sh | sh" magic convenience
diezl97
Trust is such a funny thing in the computer world. When you think about it, how can you really know any software dev is giving you good stuff?
SecondSince
What is spyware comrade?
diezl97
Is how I know of your browser history. Please to be standing by for visit from FSB right about now...
OldnFatBobba
I spend the first 45min removing windows and installing a free, open-source OS like Fedora or PopOS.
Korbo
*tips red hat
ifIScreamIntoTheVoid
And every year they add more things that the only way to fix it is with registry edits. When I updated to win 11 I had to re add .txt to the "new" options in the right click menu, but don't worry, they have it set up so that creating a blank .bmp file is a permanent addition that you can't remove.
ifIScreamIntoTheVoid
I finally had to disable edge synchronization because it kept overwriting my work profile (that I only use on edge) with my personal information from chrome, which it regularly steals without asking, then I have to scrub all of my data back out of edge and re-set up all my work stuff. Hopefully the registry edit works.
Longbow486
Should try out linux then.
Zamm005
Any noob tips for a noob? Just joined the PC master race today!
eshank881
Have fun with it! Your PC will change over time with you, you don’t have to do “all the things” right away.
My recommendations for newbies:
Get updated drivers for all your hardware.
BitDefender or Eset are good AV/Security.
1Password for password management.
Search for things like “remove bloat windows” or “windows turn off spying” and then choose with tips you want to implement.
Keep your own data backups.
Calibrate your monitor.
Remember to go outside sometimes.
Zamm005
Haha! Awesome, thanks! (I read through that list like: yes, yes yes, awesome, thanks, brilliant, ok will do... NEVERRR!!)
PorneliusHubertII
Yep, step one on a fresh install is the removal of bloatware and the revoking odlf permissions to everything that comes stock with windows.
Hemelsblauw
Is there a standard list for unfucking windows?
Hkafodays
Windows10Debloater and O&OShutUp10++
threeverse
Tiny11
spomsoree
Check this: https://github.com/memstechtips/UnattendedWinstall
YourMotherApproves
Thx for this
hannibalhague
Add or remove programs!!
VolkerPuttman
https://privacy.sexy/
Hajaj
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SherMattLockSmith
No, it is answering the question perfectly. Microsoft is forcing more and more insane bullshit into their OS, advertisements and AI bullshit. If you want a de-bloated OS don't use a bloatware filled OS in the first place.
Hemelsblauw
I have Mint on most machines, but I need one Windows pc. One of my Mint PC's has bad day though, screens wont listen to me and chromium fucked up my history. Most of the other days in the year, it's fine.
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GlenL
That's like saying "Unhappy with the gas mileage on your Honda civic? Get a Cybertruck"
TheBigBadBonerBiter
That's like suggesting someone pull an Ernest Hemingway to deal with a headache.
Shaodyn
Do you see how deliberately unhelpful that is? That's like if someone asked where to get a good burger and you directed them to a hot dog place.
Shaodyn
You purposely answered the wrong question.
Shaodyn
Purely out of brand loyalty.
quzar
Done. New question: is there a standard list for unfucking macOS?
OnionCutter
Nope because of you do you'll probably fuck the whole computer up
MrImmaculate
Yep. Get a PC. (Wash, rinse, repeat ad nauseam...)
DoctorWookie
That's the neat part... You don't.
JustAnotherRabidToaster
You can't...not don't....can't. There is a difference.
SherMattLockSmith
Yes, step 1: Install linux. I am coming up on my 20 year anniversary of ditching windows completely and every single day microsoft reminds me how right I was to do so. Paying a multi-billion dollar company for the privilege of using your own hardware is insane, and they are shoving more and more insane bullshit into it every single day.
davesaint01930
Yes, install Linux, never play a pc game again.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
Does Steam still work on Linux? I don't know anything about it
FalcorTheUrinator
Linux support for games is getting there but there are still MANY games that it does not work with, or that take a lot of fuckery to get working. If you are an avid gamer, I would not recommend using linux for games. At least until you get very familiar with how linux works. Dual booting is always an option.
VenomousSalsa
Steam Decks run on arch Linux, so yes.
MorayCup
Yes, Valve have done a lot of great work with Proton to make a hell of a lot of games work through that on linux systems, its as easy as checking a box in the games launch settings to get most games running on linux
DefinitelyNotAlphariusOmegon
It does. Alot of games even run better. HOWEVER, anticheat (the software) does not... so that may lock out certain online games. Squad 44 is currently one of the ones stopping me from just switching.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
Hm. I'd have to look up a list. Just got Monster Hunter Rise on PC. It's online.
AgainstMethod
A lot of us can't use Linux for work, even if we dearly want to.
mfinerty1
This ^^^ #linuxordeath
Hemelsblauw
I've got more than one Mint machine. But I need Windows for Itunes. There is really nothing I've found under Linux that I like better. And for some business stuff, I need Office.
nemo3590
"I need Windows for Itunes" is an amazing sentence lmao.
Hemelsblauw
Yeah, my friends have gotten used to it by now. Lol. It's just that I works for what I need.
professionaldownvoter
https://www.openoffice.org/product/linux.html
davesaint01930
Open office is shit.
Hemelsblauw
I have libre office, but with the complicated Excel stuff I do, I'm not gonna trust it to be converted perfectly. And I just know my way better round Excel since I've used that for more than 25 years.
HandoB4Javert
https://lifehacker.com/you-can-get-rid-of-windows-bloatware-with-one-command-1848707156
iwr -useb https://git.io/debloat|iex
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magitek
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HooahDO
Idk…it’s a script that wants to use your admin privileges directly.
ThrashAndChemistry
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GlenL
"Run an admin PowerShell and run this random script" I think I'll just live with the bloatware, thanks
doccynical
It's a script. You can use your fucking eyes (or screen reader) and look at what it does.
paintbullits
I'm sure some people can tell exactly what it does, & if it's safe. The overlap between those people and the ones who are actually going to run that seems rather small
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MatrimBloodyCauthon
Woo. Doot
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lostinLA
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Hemelsblauw
Thanx
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