Like when they throw a half drunk bottle of anything on the ground. I mean, you're holding the cap in your other hand! Never inviting these people over to my house.
In the shows I’m talking about, not none of the characters are making anything. They’re just indiscriminately consuming with no apparent concern they’re using resources that need to be replenished somehow. I’m not talking about what is theoretically possible; I’m talking about what happens in shows.
Eh, I would need to see a timeline, but yeah, character behavior can be weird. But you know the love interest(s) need the full supply of hair treatment and body oil, right?
It depends. If it's recent, and the number of people are scarce to none, there's no reason not to; those resources aren't really "scarce" unless they're perishible. And if they're perishible, well, you might as well use them before they go bad. So literally no reason not to.
If it's post-apocalyptic, but entire societies and civilizations have risen up, then yes. But then I wonder how the fuck these items are still in existence anyway.
True but what I haven’t gotten about fallout is how many are willing to use fatboys and other nukes even when surrounded by all the radioactive fallout. Super mutants makes sense I guess but a human?
A post-apocalypse is the collapse of society. One cause of that collapse could be hoarding or reckless use of resources. Destroying habitats for monoculture crops, draining aquifers that need decades to replenish, and, of course, continued use of fossil fuels instead of renewables.
And so, people populating a wasteland might inherit similar irresponsible habits. Despite decades of warning signs, becoming increasingly dire with every generation; people don’t change. Not even in the wasteland.
Luxury items are definitely gold standard in the future. Something you can do without but would be a creature comfort. Chap stick works really well for that
Suspend your disbelief but everyone should know that the gas in cars has an expiration date so add that as the season 5 twist oh shit none of our cars and generators work anymore
The biggest and most real one in my mind…common medicines, I’m talking aspirin, antihistamine, acetaminophen…common fever reducers…billions will perish
Right, but in the shows / movies I’m talking about, nobody is shown making alcohol. They’re just taking a few swigs from a bottle of aged whiskey and throwing the rest away. Or using a crumpling up a full sheet of paper after making a mistake. Or throwing a bottle that can store water over their shoulder.
It's a liability though. Booze makes you slow and having it makes you a target. So I mean what kind of apocalypse because zombie = don't drink booze, mad max if you have the booze might as well
In the post-apocalypse time where everyone is suffering due to lack of resources and comforts and medicine, anything that dulls the pain will be in HIGH demand.
if you think no one is making booze in the post-apocalypse you must be smoking crack. Making booze might be the cornerstone of building the next civilization in the ruins of the old one. There are theories that suggest human being invented civilization to make booze in the first place and that the advent of agricultural was an after-effect of efforts to make booze reliably instead of the booze being an after effect of inventing agriculture.
Nope but I'm the same guy that gets mad when in a period piece people jam their swords or arrows into the ground to hold them upright. You're dulling the blade!!
So I SHOULDNT throw my lawn care machete into the dirt, i have a whetstone, it'll be sharp again no problem. Got a blade? Carry a whetstone, sharpen every night. Cowboy movies showed that sometimes
People in kentucky and the hollers of NC will keep making booze long after everythjng falls apart. Paper is in HUGE supply, ink is easy to make prisoners do it
You’re missing the point. Yes, humans can make beer. No shit. What I’m saying is that when people in movies are drinking all of the pre-Fall beer and no one is making any more, it takes one out of the moment.
PacMan4Life
Like when they throw a half drunk bottle of anything on the ground. I mean, you're holding the cap in your other hand! Never inviting these people over to my house.
MoxieMonster
Waste or left. Especially in scary movies when they drop the weapon prior to finishing the job.
BobAllen2004
I get pulled out of the moment whenever a character starts a phone number with 555.
KaijuMcCitysmash
That doesn't break the immersion for me nearly as much as all the neatly manicured lawns in the walking dead
DoseOfScience
Booze is easy to make, and if you can make alcohol, you can make some type of fuel. A bigger one is nobody using bikes.
Grumptious
In the shows I’m talking about, not none of the characters are making anything. They’re just indiscriminately consuming with no apparent concern they’re using resources that need to be replenished somehow. I’m not talking about what is theoretically possible; I’m talking about what happens in shows.
DoseOfScience
Eh, I would need to see a timeline, but yeah, character behavior can be weird. But you know the love interest(s) need the full supply of hair treatment and body oil, right?
DocFunkenstein
It depends. If it's recent, and the number of people are scarce to none, there's no reason not to; those resources aren't really "scarce" unless they're perishible. And if they're perishible, well, you might as well use them before they go bad. So literally no reason not to.
If it's post-apocalyptic, but entire societies and civilizations have risen up, then yes. But then I wonder how the fuck these items are still in existence anyway.
pmather021
Depends on the media. 48 hours later. Totes. Fallout. Not so totes.
GoodChange
True but what I haven’t gotten about fallout is how many are willing to use fatboys and other nukes even when surrounded by all the radioactive fallout. Super mutants makes sense I guess but a human?
DoseOfScience
Super science has apparently made them more resistant to rads.
kydn
Don't watch Mad Max 2
Violaquin
A post-apocalypse is the collapse of society. One cause of that collapse could be hoarding or reckless use of resources. Destroying habitats for monoculture crops, draining aquifers that need decades to replenish, and, of course, continued use of fossil fuels instead of renewables.
And so, people populating a wasteland might inherit similar irresponsible habits. Despite decades of warning signs, becoming increasingly dire with every generation; people don’t change. Not even in the wasteland.
bluescreen
I am in full agreement except for one point... I guarantee, people are still making booze.
FoodTastesGood
Can you give us an example?
JarJarDrinks
Unless - as in I Am Legend - they are in city with loads of stuff ready to be scavenged
swedeonamoose
Thankfully i am very good at shutting down the part of my brain that notices such things during movies.
squirreltactics
Gasoline expires too. Unless it's like a year in, it's worthless
Woogyface
just wait for our post apocalytic experience. you can judge yourself if the tv shows are correct or not /s
dataismyspiritanimal
I read a post-apocalyptic book once where one of the scarcest, most prized resources was… chapstick. The atmosphere was dry and windy.
GravyEducation
Luxury items are definitely gold standard in the future. Something you can do without but would be a creature comfort. Chap stick works really well for that
GravyEducation
Suspend your disbelief but everyone should know that the gas in cars has an expiration date so add that as the season 5 twist oh shit none of our cars and generators work anymore
tiderfish
This is why I liked the ‘last man on earth’ he just used and used them found more
GBMaker
You have to remember that there are a lot fewer people ('cause most died), and that means whatever's left will last a lot longer.
somecallmetimmmmkay
The biggest and most real one in my mind…common medicines, I’m talking aspirin, antihistamine, acetaminophen…common fever reducers…billions will perish
TheUglyGuy
Fifteen minutes after the apocalypse hits someone will have a still set up to make booze, so it's not going to be scarce.
MeowWoof
Heck, they were making "gasoline" in the late 1800s, people would definitely be making it post apocalypse.
Grumptious
Right, but in the shows / movies I’m talking about, nobody is shown making alcohol. They’re just taking a few swigs from a bottle of aged whiskey and throwing the rest away. Or using a crumpling up a full sheet of paper after making a mistake. Or throwing a bottle that can store water over their shoulder.
GravyEducation
It's a liability though. Booze makes you slow and having it makes you a target. So I mean what kind of apocalypse because zombie = don't drink booze, mad max if you have the booze might as well
Neurisko
In the post-apocalypse time where everyone is suffering due to lack of resources and comforts and medicine, anything that dulls the pain will be in HIGH demand.
GravyEducation
Which leads to fighting so that's why I ask, are we a small team or is this just like "all you can drink at the thunderdome" situation
Shifuede
Depends if the character is an idiot or not; idiots won't think about resource scarcity...
KR1570F
if you think no one is making booze in the post-apocalypse you must be smoking crack. Making booze might be the cornerstone of building the next civilization in the ruins of the old one. There are theories that suggest human being invented civilization to make booze in the first place and that the advent of agricultural was an after-effect of efforts to make booze reliably instead of the booze being an after effect of inventing agriculture.
SubiBryant
Nope but I'm the same guy that gets mad when in a period piece people jam their swords or arrows into the ground to hold them upright. You're dulling the blade!!
ReitnesTenought
Actually some archers back in olden days would jam their arrows into the dirt before firing them because it would make the wound infected.
ReitnesTenought
Not that they knew about germs or anything, they just knew if you put dirt in the wound it gets nasty
varyael
So I SHOULDNT throw my lawn care machete into the dirt, i have a whetstone, it'll be sharp again no problem. Got a blade? Carry a whetstone, sharpen every night. Cowboy movies showed that sometimes
SubiBryant
If you sharpen every day I say dull away!
varyael
After every single use, axe as well. Cant stand a dull axe
SubiBryant
No one can.
varyael
Not when a dull axe bounces and takes off a toe!
varyael
People in kentucky and the hollers of NC will keep making booze long after everythjng falls apart. Paper is in HUGE supply, ink is easy to make prisoners do it
varyael
Gasoline expires, fair point, mad max (the original) is about that being very finite
Grumptious
I’m talking about urban characters who don’t know what a still is.
varyael
Beer is almost as easy to make as bread, Im sure there would be replacement booze, its cheap fast energy from bad food and bad water made drinkable
Grumptious
You’re missing the point. Yes, humans can make beer. No shit. What I’m saying is that when people in movies are drinking all of the pre-Fall beer and no one is making any more, it takes one out of the moment.