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https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/g5gwzx/white-house-executive-order-poised-to-restore-net-neutrality?__twitter_impression=true
shinagami091
Get fucked “A Shit Pie”
Jteg
Sucks that it is subject to change depending on who’s in the white house. Luckily I live in California where it is written into state law
MrPublius
Net Neutrality has never been implemented. How can it be restored?
MouseKeyboard
bOth ParTIes aRE tHe sAmE
SnakePliskinIThoughtYouWereDead
I see that there are at least 26,000 ISP bots on IMGUR
JohnTrollinsky
Good. Killing A-Shit Pie’s work.
eternaldragon6661
TheBurritoConfederacy
Reality check: An executive order can't restore NN. The reclassification must be done by the FCC, and the Rs have blocked Biden's FCC
TheBurritoConfederacy
nominations, meaning there's a deadlock at the FCC (2 D, 2 R). You can be assured that the 2 R will not vote to reclassify ISPs as Title II.
TheBurritoConfederacy
The order will still have other useful stuff in it, though, but without a full FCC panel 'encouragement' won't do squat.
00tj
Fuck yeah
zoeytg
I mean, that's nice and all. But if an executive can restore it one can also remove it again
Shaodyn
Biden: "OK, I un-fucked that. Time to get to work on the next thing Trump touched."
AdamGenesis
Thank you, President Biden!!!!
BeefaloShaver
HHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNGGGHHHHHHHH. Fuck yes. I need a goddamn cigarette
Iatesomecoffeecups
*cries in Ashit pie*
kingrd
Wow, that'd be some really, really good news
mandy009
thank goodness these prices are way too high and the speeds fluctuate so randomly now.
AuntsInMyEyesJohnson
Someone explain the benefits of this again? Will internet porn be ok?
zzz777
How it is possible you don't know this just off-hand?
ImKindaDone
Yes, and it means that comcast can't be paid to show a bandwidth preference for pornhub because they can pay more. Gotta save mom&pop porn.
usersayswhat
And step-mom and step-pop unfortunately
ImKindaDone
Ran out of characters. :)
SheriffJackCarter
They can demand a website pay the ISP a fee for fast access or throttle down speed if they refuse. Especially harmful for streaming services
RamsesMCMXCI
Basically it doesn't allow internet companies to fiddle with what websites you can go to. Example: Verizon was caught slowing down..
Richter12x2
Or injecting their own ads, or parsing your search history so they can sell your data, or anything else they can think of
RamsesMCMXCI
Access to uncompetitors site.
nebuchadnezzarispooping
You will be able to watch backdoor sluts 6 in HD now
ElbowDeepInYourGrandma
Ok but when can I have the scratch and sniff version?!?!
Agwyn
Only HD? Is this some sort of peasant joke I'm too rich to understand?
Nunyabeez74
You don't get 4k until backdoorsluts 9. It's an older series
AdamGenesis
A Conservative ISP could throttle "liberal" websites to a crawl, if they wanted. They could give NewsMax a higher bandwidth.
zanaria
About time
TheNamiKage
Nice nice, cool? Now can we get long lasting legislation protecting it?
TheFastpaws
Until they pass it I literally see it as bullshit.
mytruepersonality
SNIFF. hey you got any more of them executive orders? Gonna get so happy off those. Gonna feel my FREEDOM again.
darkninja2992
God damn, they're fixing shit at ludicrous speed
jarrettbrown
Strangely missing smash that ugly mug.
spiceass9000
Wait we lost net neutrality?
Jusmar
Yeah we lost it and the internet collapsed like 3 years ago, we've been paying for DLC internet. Wait
Frederf
Legally, never had it. Functionally, eh.
LupusGrey
I gratulate Americans for now having a little more of the rights we europeans have. Next you need some privacy protection.
herejusttopointouterrors
NO. The word is congratulate. Don't do this.
pritolus
But they're FREE, don't you understand? Nobody's got more freedoms than the Americans! /s
pritolus
I find this argument hilarious like bro, you're not even free to choose who provides your connection to the Internet
majinrat
im free to choose comcast or nothing and i chose comcast.
RamsesMCMXCI
Two steps forward one step back my friend. We will get there eventually, only a matter of time
Tragon
You're delusional if you think for one second anywhere has privacy. Unless you live under a rock in Africa listening to your iPod classic.
LupusGrey
No, nowhere has absolute privacy. Just more privacy than in the US.
Bystandr
Very nice
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
What's this about exclusive landlord deals?
TheBurritoConfederacy
Sometimes an ISP will demand exclusivity from the landlord who owns an apartment complex with many units. "Yeah we'll hook up your building,
TheBurritoConfederacy
but only if you refuse to let any other ISP provide internet to your tenants." This, of course, kills any ISP competition in that building,
TheBurritoConfederacy
and the individual tenants won't be able to choose a preferred ISP for their individual apartment in the building.
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
*broadband
RedIronCrown
If I own an apartment building I could make a deal with a provider to only allow their services to be sold there, more or less.
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
Ahh gotcha, just got a new apartment and they do this. Thanks
beaubrent
Too bad laws only last until the next guy changes it all again
SoDark
more importantly have there been any attempts to restore or improve the fairness doctrine reagan removed ? Pass some laws that ruin fox pls
hybrid572
One important thing you have to ask yourself in a democracy is: would I be happy for the party(-ies) I don't vote for to have this power too
hybrid572
It would be nice to pass laws permanently ensuring net freedoms / neutrality / many other issues, but imagine if Trump 2.0 had that power
hybrid572
The right to permanently ban all gun controls? Check. Removing laws about sexual harassment in workplaces? Check. Can't change it back now.
Everfearful
They arent laws, thats the problem. EOs and rules from orgs like the FCC and the ATF are just whatever the guy in charge right now declares.
ChernoGamma
EO's can be rolled back fairly easily, laws have to be repealed by Congress + it's FAR more difficult. That's why we still have "Obamacare"
hangar
No, Obamacare still exists because republicans have yet to come up with any sort of viable alternative
Sassafrasquatch
They never will because then what would they campaign against.
TK421isAFK
The shit they said yesterday, like always.
HariboHeadhunter
We'll have to continue being politically active and doing our utmost to ensure the right people make it to office. Not doing so led us here
Quenry
Faaaacts
HariboHeadhunter
(here being the aftermath of the Cheeto-in-chief)
Strategicgnomer
Or better yet, elect senators and congresspeople who'll write it into law instead of relying on holding the presidency. And M4A , CRT etc
Nuclearwaste9
You mean left people not right people.
HariboHeadhunter
Absolutely
babycheesehead
Who is downvoting this? Do Verizon and Comcast have Imgur accounts????
LaughingSeraphim
Not every person agrees with us, and it is their right to do so. Do you really think you're so right every one agrees?
dontrike
This would be like disagreeing that you need water to live.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
nEt neUtRAliTY HiNDerS tHE fREe mARkEt. (Obligatory /s)
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
I mean we have political bots and some from certain countries. So probably.
CaldariBob
They spammed the consulting process with testimonials from fake accounts last time, so probably yeah.
abuseapostrophesandgetdownvoted
Yeah, the fuck-heads from Comcast used my name to petition a state senator to oppose net neutrality. Assholes - all of them.
astrangehop
The telecoms ran a huge bit campaign
ShamanOfHigh
I can be skeptical they will fix anything meaningful and downvote based on that fact alone, govt. is good at wrecking everyhing they touch
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Probably about 75% comcast bots and 25% Trumpists
theguywiththevoice
Of course they do. Hundreds of them
experiencemike
This is a great step forward but he made an executive order... meaning it can be removed almost immediately by the next president.
webecallin
Would you rather him not sign it?
experiencemike
Obama set this precedent and Trump followed suit and now so does Biden. It's a bad pattern for our country as we won't have actual laws
icer190
Rule of fiat rather than rule of law.
nangke
That just means we all got calls to make to our state senators and local representatives
experiencemike
Yesssurrr
eadanke
Ummm... yeah? Lots. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41497342
Saric92
Can confirm, there was a way to check if your name was used in those bulk submissions and my name (and relative's names) were used
drainbamage1011
Do you remember what it was?
xizar
don't remember my name so I can't check.
Saric92
I don't, sorry. I used it back when it was happening and I don't have the link saved.
Sjg437
Gogo Google - https://ag.ny.gov/fakecomments
Johnsky
Would be nice if they protected our privacy from Zuckerberg while they're at it.
TheWorldAccordingToAtlas
Love the tentacle.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
EU is on that. Remember that the "updated privacy policy" is only necessary on the sites that want to farm your data.
Jusmar
You haven't actually read the privacy policies have you?
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Some, they are intentionally obtuse, full of dark patterns that try to mislead what you are consenting to.
Jusmar
Privacy policies have to be understandable & transparent by the layman(Article 12 GDPR) nor do they push you to agree to anything.
Jusmar
They had their chance to make a national privacy standard in 2018, but it's at odds with the Patriot act and they don't want open that can.
MistLynx
One step at a time, let them take the first few steps before they break out into a sprint.
SleazPumpkinBaron
Looks like Biden agrees with you. BBC News - Biden signs new order cracking down on Big Tech
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57783824
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
And that shit-stain TikTok.
ourari
See: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/08/biden-assault-monopolies-498876
theguywiththevoice
Nobody had their privacy stollen by the zuck. It was traded away freely for shitty chat software and farming games. Read the fucking T&C.
CyanideBreathMint
That's your job, not your government.
Johnsky
Facebook collects data from many sources. Even if you've never had a facebook account, it has a file on you.
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KawaNyx
That's cool but if I remember she pushed hard to get AL Franken out >.>
IToldYouSo1
QuasiIntellectualChimpanzee
You mean called on him to resign which he CHOSE to do? I agree it was a partisan hit job. But he still chose it as the better path.
KawaNyx
Being pressured to do something vs choosing to do something are different things. Sure he chose it as the better path at the time
KawaNyx
But it wasn't the best path.
Durtschi
I was listening to NPR earlier and they said that there is a bill in the works that with one click we can say no to sharing our info.
Johnsky
I would like the right to demand all references to myself or my family be deleted and never collected again.
Jusmar
1. References to you may be other people's data and you'd be infringing on their rights. 2. Services can't operate without information.
Atomic2
I mean, I get the sentiment here but... a social network is literally a data gathering machine. The only way to keep your data off is to >>
Atomic2
not use it. //
OrkoTheMagician
As others have said, helps because you aren’t freely giving ALL the data, but they still have more than enough
Johnsky
Oh boy, do we have baaad news for you.
FundamentallyFlawed
Well you know. Facebook isn't mandatory...
Johnsky
Zuckerberg collects your data. Even if you have never had a Facebook account. If you use the internet, Zuckerberg has a file on you.
TheNoirAntagonist
Also just any Monopoly or company to large to fail. because too large to fail should not be a thing ever.
Einstein9073
Too large to be allowed to fail means it must be nationalized immediately for the good of the country. No exceptions
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
It pains me that the first time I heard that phrase was in reference to a business getting a huge government bailout.
KennyBlankenshipandVicRomano
I’ve honestly never heard that phrase used for anything :other: than private corporations angling for huge tax dollar bailouts
Dragonsarebiglizards
Unpopular opinion meme: Just don't use Facebook.
sudoalias404
Or post just what you want them to "believe" you are... ?
MrSaturday
It is so much more than facebook.
softsuit
Yessssss.
NinjaCongo
Any alternatives to staying up to date with social events?
Johnsky
It's an archaic form of network, but it still works. It's the Physical Vocal Neighbors and Friends network. I has a bit of lag, but it's fun
NinjaCongo
Yeah that'll do the trick, I'll just call all of my friends to find out if they know of any parties, seeing as they have fb.
garyoldmansdiary
These domains can run scripts in your browser right now while you browse memes if you're not blocking them.
khora
Those scripts can't do much though.
garyoldmansdiary
I'm just exemplifying that there's a whole lot of connectivity behind the scenes and you can't trust that not going to 1 site is protection.
NinjaCongo
What's the app you're using for this pls?
garyoldmansdiary
The NoScript addon for Firefox. I'm not sure if it's the bleeding-edge best thing to use, but it's a million times better to use anything /
garyoldmansdiary
that works instead of nothing.
Johnsky
Sad reality : Zuckerberg tracks any mention of you on any platform associated with them, regardless of you never having an account.
Acronymicon
That’s why I avoid people altogether
Johnsky
https://technology.inquirer.net/82560/study-claims-facebook-tracks-you-even-if-you-dont-have-an-account-or-logged-off Enjoy the rage.
NewCrobuzonCitizen
Its funny that the article is on a page that wants me to turn off ad-blocker ...
penzick
Well that IS completely infuriating. Thanks, friend!
Johnsky
Glad I could ruin your day, buddy!
BeaveIt2Leaver
Not only rage, knowledge. Now we know, so let's figure a way to turn our rage against them.
Johnsky
Eventually we'll be able to charge Zuckerberg with treason when we find our citizens data in the hands of an enemy.