housing market is waaay too high already, i'm glad i finally bought a house last summer, shit is about to get even more expensive when the framers, concrete, drywallers, roofers, painters, excavators, electricians and plumbers all of a sudden can't complete jobs due to not having enough workers and the market skyrockets again like it did with covid.
Good. All these pro Trump fucker contractors who hire illegal workers because they can pay them peanuts and keep the big bucks for themselves... I hope they all go broke... what did they think they were going to do without their exploited workers? Good luck hiring an American worker who'll put up with you bullshit and crappy wages. LOL!
Oh, not just that, get ready for deflation as well. Because they aren't mutually exclusive. Because inflation means things cost more, and deflation means your money is worth less than before. And it gets real nasty when they happen at the same time. See the great depression for an example of what happens when they join together.
Well, if he has slapped tariffs on Canada and Mexico, you'd better buy a new car now if you were planning to get one. Lots of parts and stuff made in both places. Prices should rise when current stocks run out.
Fruit and veg will rot on the vine. Do you think those farms will pay Americans to work on a farm? They pay shit wages only good for people who live in a country where that pay is converted to their currently at 4 times the worth.
What happened to the law of imprisoning the boss' for hire them in the first place? Also, with the profits on today's housing, there is NO excuse for under paying the labor, legal or not. Put your concerns where they belong
Like...I agree with you but fuck...damn near every guy on a jobsite seems to either want to fellate the man or think they're smart listening to shitty nazi podcasts.
Yeah it's frustrating. It's a demographic that has unfortunately been abandoned and often outright ridiculed by progressives for a couple decades now and the results are ugly.
Honestly. I hate the pseudo-intellectual brocast listening fuckers way more than just the ignorant rednecks. At least the rednecks can be decent people if it's on a semi close and relatable level, the brocast fucks are just assholes.
Those ICE guys are really idiots as every body know illegal migrants are not working (This is ironic in case my messages might be perceived as too subtitle)
Lmao, no they aren't. They will never pay you more just because there are less workers. They will increase your workload then maybe give you a ten cent raise.
But people that think they will get rich now because immigrants aren't working don't see that. And it's really not more, because of the way taxes work. I almost bring home as much on a part time job than I did full time because of insurance pay and taxes.
Maybe "they" won't. But if you have a trade and can work for yourself you can cash in. Brick layers where I live are making triple what they were a few years ago
Back in the day it was 100%, then the immigrant diseases wiped 97% of them all out and the immigrants found lands "that must have been tended by god just for them ready for the pickin'"
With that logic then literally everyone is an immigrant apart from maybe some Africans depending on where humanity started. Indigenous usually refers to a people being there for shit loads of generations so no one will consider Native Americans as immigrants, especially since they’re been there for 12-30 thousand years.
No, as technically some of them were there before it was the USA. And that's not just the Native populations, some of them also apply to the former French and Spanish and Russian territories sold to America US.
I think @CelestialSea was getting at the fact that the human species did not originate on the American continents, and so all humans in the Americas can trace themselves back to someone who migrated here.
Yes, because 97% would be way too high to include Europeans and others who settled in the US before it was the US. 2.92% of Americans are indigenous, leaving .08% for those who came from the 1500s to 1783 which seems very low.
Yes, but those first people wouldn't be called immigrants, as that only applies to people who move into an existing country. Those first people were pioneers. As they went out into unclaimed lands and claimed them. There is a difference between the two.
Migrants may be the better term than immigrants, although if you get to that "into an existing country" distinction, than many of the colonialists technically weren't immigrants, since they didn't move into the existing Native American tribes, but took land and started their own states of sort. They weren't immigrants, they were invaders.
TheAdjuster
housing market is waaay too high already, i'm glad i finally bought a house last summer, shit is about to get even more expensive when the framers, concrete, drywallers, roofers, painters, excavators, electricians and plumbers all of a sudden can't complete jobs due to not having enough workers and the market skyrockets again like it did with covid.
CallMeMcGyver
Good. All these pro Trump fucker contractors who hire illegal workers because they can pay them peanuts and keep the big bucks for themselves... I hope they all go broke... what did they think they were going to do without their exploited workers? Good luck hiring an American worker who'll put up with you bullshit and crappy wages. LOL!
Hypothesist
yay inflation... hope you bought your home already
Targe0
Oh, not just that, get ready for deflation as well. Because they aren't mutually exclusive. Because inflation means things cost more, and deflation means your money is worth less than before. And it gets real nasty when they happen at the same time. See the great depression for an example of what happens when they join together.
jimmythehat1
Why would American wages increase? And how would that not directly result in the cost of everything going up?
artie500
What I don't get is how long these guys can do this. They've got families to feed and bills to pay. It needs to be a nationwide coordinated effort!
DarkSock
Heelcat70
Well, if he has slapped tariffs on Canada and Mexico, you'd better buy a new car now if you were planning to get one. Lots of parts and stuff made in both places. Prices should rise when current stocks run out.
Gantzz321
a new car that runs on water. Cause Canada just cut off Oil/Electricity to the US
PrinceMaxx7
Yep. I'd estimate the average price going up $7000-9000 at the least.
Parts are going to be more expensive to repair the newer cars we have now, so we have that to look forward to.
Gonna be a good time to invest in a used car lot.
lindabelchersfirstcousin
CaptCrobar
Fruit and veg will rot on the vine. Do you think those farms will pay Americans to work on a farm? They pay shit wages only good for people who live in a country where that pay is converted to their currently at 4 times the worth.
CalvinMcFly
JohnSmithterms
Goooood .... goooooooood
THESEVENSGUY
I see forced labour for people on government assistance in the future for the US
notblubber
I'm sure some kids from the suburbs will step in to do that work. /s
neverhappytoasterdog
And pick strawberries, and clean toilets, and watch questionable children 24/7 for $300 a week. Lolz
The701
The children yearn for the scaffolds.
CaldariBob
I'm sure a lot of Republican politicians have kids who could use a summer job. There always seems to be a crop that needs picking. Builds character!
khora
How else are they going to get food?
todaytomorrowwillbeyesterday
What happened to the law of imprisoning the boss' for hire them in the first place? Also, with the profits on today's housing, there is NO excuse for under paying the labor, legal or not. Put your concerns where they belong
newyearworseme
GOOD! Those contractors hire illegals knowing full-well they are saving money by taking advantage of an uneducated illegal
anotherrandomname
I can hear the housing getting more affordable already!
qyrriqat
And wait till the non-immigrants step up and start laying eggs. We'll have those prices down in no time.
Targe0
And then the profits will finally after 40 years trickle down right? ... right?
LordHelmetTheThird
Soooooo many people are completely illiterate about basic economics...
XaoJet
Hateful politics aside, what a great view for a jobsite.
MediocrityDave
I’m sure all those red hats will show up any day now to get those jobs back that were stolen from them. Any day now…
Valkyr1987
Prison labor is about to join the construction crew
Ribaldrie
Slavery
VaultGirl69
This. This is the plan. And it sucks. Slavery is bad.
RainierCamino
Any day now! The average Trump rally attendee would probably have a fucking stroke within a week if they had to work construction.
masteryoplait
Most of them probably did a little construction when young and then conveniently figured out how to get disability insurance.
Unclescam
Like...I agree with you but fuck...damn near every guy on a jobsite seems to either want to fellate the man or think they're smart listening to shitty nazi podcasts.
BrdCdn
Yeah it's frustrating. It's a demographic that has unfortunately been abandoned and often outright ridiculed by progressives for a couple decades now and the results are ugly.
Unclescam
Honestly. I hate the pseudo-intellectual brocast listening fuckers way more than just the ignorant rednecks. At least the rednecks can be decent people if it's on a semi close and relatable level, the brocast fucks are just assholes.
Vengeraxe
Aye i'm sure they will accept the shitty wages the other guys were used to being paid.
danielsan1977
No no no. I'm sure that the pay will increase. Just you wait. Juuuust youuuuu waaaaaait....
AndrewCowbell
Still waiting on that 6-figure coal job
KAPTKipper
Wait for the wood to not show up next
Verbodentoegang
Make ‘Murica great again
torp
Those ICE guys are really idiots as every body know illegal migrants are not working (This is ironic in case my messages might be perceived as too subtitle)
KawaiiInari
Lmao, no they aren't. They will never pay you more just because there are less workers. They will increase your workload then maybe give you a ten cent raise.
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KawaiiInari
But people that think they will get rich now because immigrants aren't working don't see that. And it's really not more, because of the way taxes work. I almost bring home as much on a part time job than I did full time because of insurance pay and taxes.
chiefrunswithscissors
Maybe "they" won't. But if you have a trade and can work for yourself you can cash in. Brick layers where I live are making triple what they were a few years ago
isszuSparkleBandit
Count down till, "Every major civilization since the dawn of time relies on immigration to function. Nobody knew" from the big orange idiot
pr3viso
Thanks, Obama.
woozle
DanOrtega
Family in Vegas about to find attractive being deported to Mexico soon.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Watch the prices of tomatoes next month.
mormacil
That's when Trump declares a national emergency and wants to use prison labor... Prisons filled by ICE as we speak.
downrightmike
Already stocked for a few months
AsidRayne1245
All produce**
Gantzz321
Canada here, we just cut the gas/electricity supply to America. FAFO.
jayman0123
And avocados
Anonypuss
90% comes from Mexico lol
charondaboatman
Every tomato from October until June is either hothouse grown or imported.
CaldariBob
It's citrus at the moment.
downrightmike
My orange tree just ripened
downrightmike
This is an option: https://fallingfruit.org/
reineseele
I will tell ya, free of charge, that the big food shops will make a 20% profit from whatever the price will be.
acetothermus
Next month? MONTH? Try monday!
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Monday ISn ext month.
len0k
dudehiemer
Remember kids: Around 97% of the people in the USA are immigrants or descendant from immigrants.
Tumescentpie
The Republicans want to deport the natives. Which is fucked up, but also points out that this is just the holocaust 2.
FlyingButtPliers
They tried to deport Navajo. To where exactly isn't clear
Anonypuss
Letting the Drumpfs in was a huge mistake
MrSpookywasagoodboy2
It's always been 100%. Not one person in the America's is not descended from immigrants. Not even "native americans".
downrightmike
Back in the day it was 100%, then the immigrant diseases wiped 97% of them all out and the immigrants found lands "that must have been tended by god just for them ready for the pickin'"
CrumpetsWithHoneyAreCrumpetsWithBeeVomit
Diseases AND genocide. Don't forget the genocide.
downrightmike
Guns, Germs and Steel
InfinitumD
Don't you mean 0 percent? Native Americans aren't immigrants
kwyjjibo
They were in fact the first immigrants to north america.
downrightmike
I did, but upon review Native Americans literally came from Asia over a land bridge. We're all just sentient viruses replicating anywhere we can.
qwertdeep
With that logic then literally everyone is an immigrant apart from maybe some Africans depending on where humanity started. Indigenous usually refers to a people being there for shit loads of generations so no one will consider Native Americans as immigrants, especially since they’re been there for 12-30 thousand years.
vallejoattorney15
Y’know~ that’s a good description of humans, sentient viruses 🦠
OookOookOookMotherFudger
Sapient. At least, most of us are anyway...
downrightmike
CelestialSea
I mean... technically 100% if you go back far enough.
Targe0
No, as technically some of them were there before it was the USA. And that's not just the Native populations, some of them also apply to the former French and Spanish and Russian territories sold to America US.
marsilies
I think @CelestialSea was getting at the fact that the human species did not originate on the American continents, and so all humans in the Americas can trace themselves back to someone who migrated here.
CelestialSea
Yes, because 97% would be way too high to include Europeans and others who settled in the US before it was the US. 2.92% of Americans are indigenous, leaving .08% for those who came from the 1500s to 1783 which seems very low.
Targe0
Yes, but those first people wouldn't be called immigrants, as that only applies to people who move into an existing country. Those first people were pioneers. As they went out into unclaimed lands and claimed them. There is a difference between the two.
marsilies
Migrants may be the better term than immigrants, although if you get to that "into an existing country" distinction, than many of the colonialists technically weren't immigrants, since they didn't move into the existing Native American tribes, but took land and started their own states of sort. They weren't immigrants, they were invaders.
CelestialSea
im·mi·grant
/ˈiməɡrənt/
noun
noun: immigrant; plural noun: immigrants
an animal or plant living or growing in a region to which it has migrated.