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https://fortune.com/2024/07/09/remote-work-outlook-zoom-return-to-office-chief-people-officer/
Jul 12, 2024 7:23 PM
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https://fortune.com/2024/07/09/remote-work-outlook-zoom-return-to-office-chief-people-officer/
Calicious
I would need my salary more than doubled to go back into an office. Absolutely no way.
Emberskyes
Zoom CEO is a hypocritical POS. There fixed your Headline.
KAPTKipper
Ef Zoom
quietwalker
During covid and the last year, companies have been over hiring in the US. They are trying to get people to quit because that's the cheapest, least impact solution for them.
One way to do that quietly is to start enforcing return to office (RTO) policies. They'll start with 2 or 3, and move to 4 or full. Each extra day back in the office results in more people leaving at no cost to them!
lastmanonearthbutidroppedmyglasses
Non-paywall link: https://archive.ph/cnPYr
NotThatPrivate
the 12 ft ladder works here.
https://12ft.io/
Just plug in the link
sadurdaynight
Remote & WFH has become an "order qualifier" for a lot of employees, esp top talent, not an "order winner". It boggles my mind how these companies go "get back in the office, assholes! I don't care how far the commute is!" And then are shocked when folks jump-ship for another job that's remote again. I worked for a housing finance company that had to comply with new regs so each computer was just a thin client tapping into a server. Everyone could have been remote. But, not.. "come to office."
skolyr
Fortune has got to be one of the worst media outlets these days. Pretty much every article I've seen is practically begging for us to consider the billionaires not being able to afford the mooring fees on their 3rd yacht. I wouldn't be surprised if the conclusion of this article was "Even Zoom staff are returning back to the office, so your lazy employees have no more excuses."
Taalii
I feel like if I was rich I would own the dockyard my yacht was in, not paying mooring fees. Also my dockyard would be heavily themed as fantasy/pirate. The dnd kind not the other fantasy kind at least in areas visible to the public.
HelpfulCorn
Every Fortune article is pro RTO
dwolvin
Rules for thee, not for me...
irisview
Yeah, and I hates it (in my best Golum Voice)
2ToTooOrTwo
Someone told me, a few months ago, about how the commercial real estate market is set to default on a lot of commercial properties in August. Cross that with the new push to get workers back inside their offices and maybe that's insightful or inciteful in some way to someone. I'm thinking there's some lurking penalty clause in the event of the building not being occupied "fulltime" or with as many heads working on premises to get local tax breaks.
kyro
There are absolutely renter contracts that stipulate specific occupancy requirements.
If I'm the landlord of a highrise commercial building, it's not enough for me that you just pay rent. You need to provide my lobby food court with customers as well.
malakim
This. A lot of the companies pushing for return-to-office are heavily invested in office real estate buildings that are now underused.
Munchman347
Plus a shit ton of 'Office Managers' that are getting paid to not 'Micro-manage' anyone. Can't let all those friends and relatives get laid off...
Revicus
I believe you but I'm not sure I understand how this works. How are companies like Zoom making money by renting office space to themselves?
malakim
They are not. Most companies are invested in (office) real-estate in some way or another. That's why its an industry-wide lobbying movement. Basically collusion without actually talking to each other. A single company pushing for return to office would lose employees that are switching to more lenient companies. If everyone is pushing they can say "oh the entire industry is pushing, its not our fault".
Revicus
Ahh, now I think I follow.
hufflesnuff
Great job the execs are doing too! https://imgur.com/FhL5i1Z.png
Cinammontoastcrunch
You'd think a video call app would be against people meeting face to face
conglacious
Cilvaa
CheshireCad
On the one hand, it makes perfect sense that usage would peak during a pandemic. But a better company would have properly capitalized on the goldmine of an opportunity and encouraged remote work as the norm, thus exiting the pandemic better than before.
DdCno1
It's hard to go against the momentum of billions upon billions in corporate real estate developments alone though.
diggetydug
This is the real reason.