Even accepting the premise - which I don't - the idea you should have to spend your 20s grinding out 70 hour work weeks for minimum pay so you can be one of the lucky ones to be financially stable in your 30s is total bullshit.
They just want you to waste your good years you should be having fun so you can be sad and broken later that helps the system keep going, also if your doing 70hour weeks then you can't have time for education, that also helps the system
Money so old her family name is referenced in the original Dracula and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde — I’m not kidding, it’s sourced on their Wikipedia page.
I notice some common sense missing in a few more of the younger ones than previous generations, but my experience working with gen z has essentially been the same as millennials and for that matter gen x.
There's a whole generation of boomers and wealthy Nepo babies who sincerely don't get that not all "work" is the same. You stayed up until midnight networking at a $140 a plate fundraiser, then had to get up early the next day to horse ride with the prime minister's cousin. Meanwhile, the single mother of two had to stay up until 2am washing dishes at a bar without gloves then be up at 7 to get kids to school before starting her day job.
My mom was a hard worker. Worked 30 years at a company. Earned a supervisor position. Took all the overtime she could so we could keep a roof over our heads and food on our table. People loved working with and working for her. Higher ups eliminated her department so a couple months later they could create a new one with a different name and hire people who cost less than she did. Hard work earned her a reference for a new job that paid her less. Hard work only matters until it doesn't.
The absolute gall. People better vote in a system that hits the 1% tax rates as hard as an employee making a typo, otherwise Eat The Rich is going to be more than figurative.
The rich figured that out in the 1930s, that was the last time people were nattering about how "capitalism has run its course" and thinking big-C Communism looked good. They had the sense to implement some social reforms lest they lose everything--and many rich people still viewed FDR as a "class traitor".
That's a lot of fucking words to say her grandpa founded the company she works for. Just say it, don't spin it. She sucks regardless and why are millennials talking shit about younger generations? We're supposed to be better than that.
Reminds me of a similar thing with actors that has the nickname "blue link" where if you go to their wikipedia page their parents are listed with a link instead of plain text because they're also significant enough to have their own page. The implication is their child may have got success acting through nepotism, and acting is a hard field to make a career, let alone get to 'household name' status.
Worse is those actors whose Wiki pages are scrubbed to remove references to the rest of their family. At that point you have a pretty good idea they're well connected and want everyone to think it was their talent and hard work instead of their connections.
That’s many fields. You do what your parents do because you pick up exposure to the skill set and lifestyle. It isn’t exclusive to acting and you still need the talent. There are more failed acting dynasties than successful ones. I remember when Chelsea Clinton got to do a story on the 5:30 national ABC news. My god she was awful. Nice enough woman with no charisma or reporting chops. If she were still at it that would be gross nepotism. But sometimes your parents get you a try out. Shrugs.
99% of nepotism is simply access. It’s a cheat code.
Sofia Coppola got her first movie role when the original child was sick and so her dad was like: I’ll just use my own kid. Random children don’t get picked for movie stardom.
Warren Buffet became one of the richest men in the world because his dad was a state senator who owned an investment brokerage. He got investment deals by turning up unannounced because people wanted access to his dad. This doesn’t happen to normal people.
Exactly thats the point. A interhitted CEO job doesnt require you to have form of talent. Maybe the only talent needed is to be a psychopath. Which you can learn and is probably the way you grow up anyway with at least one psychopath parent. You also have multiple chances to succeed with rich parents. While the averade joe probably has a single chance to get out of the miserable life, to built a business and when he fails, thats it.
And the alternative is that a parent does not try to get their kid as many chances as possible for success? That's illogical. As a parent I work hard not to enjoy the fruits of my labor but to supply the greatest opportunities for my children's success. They should absolutely reap the benefits of my efforts.
If you see such people bitching about how hard they hard it but look at their success now while everyone else (who DIDN'T have an inbuilt nepotism advantage) is clearly just lazy, they're just being shitty bratty twits. And the point here is the actor version of it is this "blue link on wikipedia" thing.
And that makes you a good parent. If your children then claim that their own success was solely due to their own hard work and nobody ever helped them, that makes them look stupid.
Me and my sister used to wake up before midnight, walk 7 hours to school with one bare foot - we shared shoes - eating cold gravel for breakfast. Sometimes we found a dead squirrel that we shared, raw. One time we found two pairs of boots. Dad beat us with a paddle for two hours until he had to go to work - uphill in a snowstorm! - but told us to grab the bootstraps and pull ourselves up. We didn't have big boy pants, dad sold them so we wouldn't be evicted. Youth these days have it too easy.
It gets worse. When I made my first billion, I had to pay taxes. Destitute - a lady I had a fling with - sued me, so then I had to sell my bootstraps. Back to the old homestead I went. Dad was a ghost of a man. I had to walk in rain and sleet. My driver and security team - twelve former cops - refused to meet my dad. Halfway down I took an arrow to the knee and once healthcare had sent the bill, I was back at eating cold gravel for breakfast. This time with no boots. Spare a quarter, buddy. :D
Oh, I'm sure she worked. Just not in the conditions the average Gen Z (or maybe even Millennials) has had to, for any length of time. She'd probably shut the fuck up after a week without her resources. One can hope.
Her ancestor, Capt. William Money (1769-1834) is in the center. The Captain's dad was a director in the East India Company. This is the kind of bullshit nepotism that makes ya wanna throw tea in to the harbor. https://imgur.com/U76aUCN.jpg
We are way overdue for a Tea-harbor... thing. We may have to skip that part and just go straight to dropping oversized razors on necks that have never felt the sweat of poverty. I am curious to see what wealthy people taste like, actually. But only because I work 60 hours a week and still cant really afford to feed myself.
Why does everyone insist on using guillotines it's the 21st century surely we could have some more up to date methods of executing people. Perhaps we could build a giant centrifuge and liquefy their internal organs.
Yea, 'cause THAT's been working out so well for us. Ah, man. I wish I could go back to the days when I was as ignorant and hopeful as you. Give it a little time, and - pacifist or not - When and if you start missing meals for a day or two at a time you'll come around to my way of thinking. I hear Humans smell like Roast pig and taste pretty similar. I look at Rich people and I cant help but get the rumblies in my tummy that only an aristocrat can satisfy.
If +50% of people were hungry, we'd have a revolution. But they'll never let it get to that. Instead +50% will have low social mobility, low opportunities, high health, housing, and education costs, and somewhat shorter lifespans. The differences will be almost invisible to anyone but statisticians and economists...and activists. Which is why we must ALL become activists.
I’ve been working hard before. It really did pay off. Paid off for my boss’s son getting a fancy 16 year old birthday party on his new yacht, and a year later his dad bought him 2 sports cars. I contributed. So proud.
And this is why gen z is pioneering all the things that people are trying to call lazy. They see that each living generation was more educated and more productive than the one before, but was poorer for their efforts. Millennials having three paychecks and a side hustle per household and still one check engine light away from homeless, why SHOULD they work hard just to have even less?
How rich do you have to be to fall into this though? Like I feel that some people that just have slightly above average opportunities (top 25ish percent) have similar views. It's not particularly jaded or skewed, they just have a lot more training, support, and resources dedicated to them.
There should be some kind of program for them, that puts them in a different city, with a new name, no contact to their family, and no access to their ressources, then forces them to live off a minimum wage job for a year or two. Like witness protection, except it protects the rest of society.
Grew up with a guy, both of us immigrants but his family came early with more cash in hand and set up their own business so he was raised in a nice part of town and became the "bought my Subaru with my parents money all by myself" and would bitch about the government taxing his hard earned money while others freeloaded off him
dingybasement350
Finally, us millennials can retire from being the generation ruining everything!
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
Even accepting the premise - which I don't - the idea you should have to spend your 20s grinding out 70 hour work weeks for minimum pay so you can be one of the lucky ones to be financially stable in your 30s is total bullshit.
Knowfear1337
They just want you to waste your good years you should be having fun so you can be sad and broken later that helps the system keep going, also if your doing 70hour weeks then you can't have time for education, that also helps the system
silversean
Money so old her family name is referenced in the original Dracula and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde — I’m not kidding, it’s sourced on their Wikipedia page.
cellfreeDNA
Shut up, Sophia. Asshole.
OneUniverse
That's why they hate the "death tax", so that the family money can last for generations.
SteveTheEgg
I notice some common sense missing in a few more of the younger ones than previous generations, but my experience working with gen z has essentially been the same as millennials and for that matter gen x.
DidItForScience
Also from her, "I need to dial down the poshness, but the paintings of ancestors in my flat are a problem." https://twitter.com/LouiseRawAuthor/status/1776947105313001694/photo/2
notacobra
There's a whole generation of boomers and wealthy Nepo babies who sincerely don't get that not all "work" is the same.
You stayed up until midnight networking at a $140 a plate fundraiser, then had to get up early the next day to horse ride with the prime minister's cousin.
Meanwhile, the single mother of two had to stay up until 2am washing dishes at a bar without gloves then be up at 7 to get kids to school before starting her day job.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
My mom was a hard worker. Worked 30 years at a company. Earned a supervisor position. Took all the overtime she could so we could keep a roof over our heads and food on our table. People loved working with and working for her. Higher ups eliminated her department so a couple months later they could create a new one with a different name and hire people who cost less than she did. Hard work earned her a reference for a new job that paid her less. Hard work only matters until it doesn't.
Hammerwell
Monopoly-we are only side figures in a bad game. https://youtu.be/LEijvApnVFk
TheEvenPrez
https://imgur.com/CAEsZCG
mckjm2
Or maybe we're just tired of being exploited?
reinharder
We should all be an employers nightmare, maybe then we would actually get what we deserve for the work
SkeksiLady
https://sophiamoneycoutts.com/about-me/ She definitely makes herself sound (and look!) like a super hustler here
GnomeDeGuerre
You should systematically downvote all "Telegraph" material. They are malicious.
ArcaneConjecture
They are actually named "Money-Coutts". I though this was satire using one of those obscure British swear words, lol.
DidItForScience
Coutts is British, but it's a private bank for very rich people.
ArcaneConjecture
It's not "Get ou' me face, ye stinkin' coutt, ye fookin' weapon ye!" ???
WellWellWellLookWhoItIs
Gen Z are an employer's nightmare? Good.
DeadWhiteMale
Remove all the money she got from her family, and she couldn't survive.
eiger3970
The absolute gall. People better vote in a system that hits the 1% tax rates as hard as an employee making a typo, otherwise Eat The Rich is going to be more than figurative.
bikergeek6249
The rich figured that out in the 1930s, that was the last time people were nattering about how "capitalism has run its course" and thinking big-C Communism looked good. They had the sense to implement some social reforms lest they lose everything--and many rich people still viewed FDR as a "class traitor".
Munchman347
You misspelled 'Cuntts'...
m0problems
Where would we all be if Sophia's great-great-grandfather hadn't invented money? Checkmate, atheists
Kingrablo
That's a lot of fucking words to say her grandpa founded the company she works for. Just say it, don't spin it. She sucks regardless and why are millennials talking shit about younger generations? We're supposed to be better than that.
jursamaj
There are shitty people in every generation.
aducksayswhat
Reminds me of a similar thing with actors that has the nickname "blue link" where if you go to their wikipedia page their parents are listed with a link instead of plain text because they're also significant enough to have their own page. The implication is their child may have got success acting through nepotism, and acting is a hard field to make a career, let alone get to 'household name' status.
Mr21782Man
Worse is those actors whose Wiki pages are scrubbed to remove references to the rest of their family. At that point you have a pretty good idea they're well connected and want everyone to think it was their talent and hard work instead of their connections.
DanielAsparagus
That’s many fields. You do what your parents do because you pick up exposure to the skill set and lifestyle. It isn’t exclusive to acting and you still need the talent. There are more failed acting dynasties than successful ones. I remember when Chelsea Clinton got to do a story on the 5:30 national ABC news. My god she was awful. Nice enough woman with no charisma or reporting chops. If she were still at it that would be gross nepotism. But sometimes your parents get you a try out. Shrugs.
truthputer
99% of nepotism is simply access. It’s a cheat code.
Sofia Coppola got her first movie role when the original child was sick and so her dad was like: I’ll just use my own kid. Random children don’t get picked for movie stardom.
Warren Buffet became one of the richest men in the world because his dad was a state senator who owned an investment brokerage. He got investment deals by turning up unannounced because people wanted access to his dad. This doesn’t happen to normal people.
ThisIsYourLifeNow
Exactly thats the point. A interhitted CEO job doesnt require you to have form of talent. Maybe the only talent needed is to be a psychopath. Which you can learn and is probably the way you grow up anyway with at least one psychopath parent. You also have multiple chances to succeed with rich parents. While the averade joe probably has a single chance to get out of the miserable life, to built a business and when he fails, thats it.
SaintSleepyWeasel
And the alternative is that a parent does not try to get their kid as many chances as possible for success? That's illogical. As a parent I work hard not to enjoy the fruits of my labor but to supply the greatest opportunities for my children's success. They should absolutely reap the benefits of my efforts.
TheMarvinator
Yeah but don't whine that you got there because you worked so hard when you clearly got a leg up
AbdulMasaiev
If you see such people bitching about how hard they hard it but look at their success now while everyone else (who DIDN'T have an inbuilt nepotism advantage) is clearly just lazy, they're just being shitty bratty twits. And the point here is the actor version of it is this "blue link on wikipedia" thing.
Pally01
And that makes you a good parent. If your children then claim that their own success was solely due to their own hard work and nobody ever helped them, that makes them look stupid.
ShuannaRetPallyWoW
Me and my sister used to wake up before midnight, walk 7 hours to school with one bare foot - we shared shoes - eating cold gravel for breakfast. Sometimes we found a dead squirrel that we shared, raw. One time we found two pairs of boots. Dad beat us with a paddle for two hours until he had to go to work - uphill in a snowstorm! - but told us to grab the bootstraps and pull ourselves up. We didn't have big boy pants, dad sold them so we wouldn't be evicted. Youth these days have it too easy.
thomn8r
Luxury!
ShuannaRetPallyWoW
It gets worse. When I made my first billion, I had to pay taxes. Destitute - a lady I had a fling with - sued me, so then I had to sell my bootstraps. Back to the old homestead I went. Dad was a ghost of a man. I had to walk in rain and sleet. My driver and security team - twelve former cops - refused to meet my dad. Halfway down I took an arrow to the knee and once healthcare had sent the bill, I was back at eating cold gravel for breakfast. This time with no boots. Spare a quarter, buddy. :D
Meltemi
EroticZombiePants
Once again Gen-X gets ignored. Back in the day, we were the lazy slacker generation.
FetteredJuvenescence
Shhhh! Keep quiet or the Boomers will remember we exist dammit!

TheCaptain00
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Money-Coutts,_9th_Baron_Latymer What the actual fuck, this isn't satire.
DidItForScience
Check out this column from her: https://twitter.com/LouiseRawAuthor/status/1776947105313001694/photo/2
Argusdubbs
Welcome to 2024, satire and reality have been steadily merging since about 2016.
CaldariBob
Daddy rowed for Eton.
infinitesimalwonder
Haha so - of his three children, she doesn’t have a blue link but his magician son does.
..I thought the classy ones were illusionists?
SkeksiLady
https://sophiamoneycoutts.com/about-me/ This is even better. Way to make yourself sound like the vapid, privileged fuck you are, Sophia
ThisUsernameIsTaken123
She sounds like a journalist in the very loosest sense of the term.
bufordTjustice
And her grandfather, the Telegraph editor, also a Lord.
TrixieLaBouche
Biggest indicator for success is having rich parents.
itsjustplaid
Oh, I'm sure she worked. Just not in the conditions the average Gen Z (or maybe even Millennials) has had to, for any length of time. She'd probably shut the fuck up after a week without her resources. One can hope.
Mercenarity
dump of replies: https://www.thepoke.com/2024/04/08/sophia-money-coutts-telegraph-column-gen-z-facepalm/
JustBoone
She literally has Money in her name.
DidItForScience
And Coutts is a private bank for rich people. https://www.coutts.com/private-banking.html
Pulsecode
It's also not a coincidence, she is from THAT Coutts family. Her father is the 9th Baron Latymer.
DukeDarkwood
"It's DEE MOH-NAY!"
CorGoBrrrr
Hon hon hon, magnifique!
TheGhostofElizabethShue
A distant descendant of John Money, the inventor of money.
KrisSommer
And evill in the family… and rich family has deeds.. estate much?
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
“Hey I wasn’t born into mo….i mean…..kinda…..”
DrNick
Her grandfather had Deedes(obsolete form of deed) for a name. Who cares what Estatia McMoneybags says about work?
datphone777365
Other dumb disconnected nepotist cunts, cus they have thin skin.
ClownishAntics
We need @skipweasel for this one, I can only see "cunt" over and over again.
Sorrontis
Mr Weasel, where are you?!
getadogupya
Moist cathouse pony.
ireplywithtwinpeaks
m0problems
ireplywithtwinpeaks
ArcaneConjecture
Her ancestor, Capt. William Money (1769-1834) is in the center. The Captain's dad was a director in the East India Company. This is the kind of bullshit nepotism that makes ya wanna throw tea in to the harbor. https://imgur.com/U76aUCN.jpg
KoalaOnTheJuice
I see the smugness is hereditary too
SomeFukinWizard
We are way overdue for a Tea-harbor... thing. We may have to skip that part and just go straight to dropping oversized razors on necks that have never felt the sweat of poverty. I am curious to see what wealthy people taste like, actually. But only because I work 60 hours a week and still cant really afford to feed myself.
DarkBusterBaron
Why does everyone insist on using guillotines it's the 21st century surely we could have some more up to date methods of executing people. Perhaps we could build a giant centrifuge and liquefy their internal organs.
CorGoBrrrr
You're over complicating it. You just described the buffet line at Golden Corral.
ArcaneConjecture
Let's not promote violence. Seriously. Win elections instead.
SomeFukinWizard
Yea, 'cause THAT's been working out so well for us. Ah, man. I wish I could go back to the days when I was as ignorant and hopeful as you. Give it a little time, and - pacifist or not - When and if you start missing meals for a day or two at a time you'll come around to my way of thinking. I hear Humans smell like Roast pig and taste pretty similar. I look at Rich people and I cant help but get the rumblies in my tummy that only an aristocrat can satisfy.
ArcaneConjecture
If +50% of people were hungry, we'd have a revolution. But they'll never let it get to that. Instead +50% will have low social mobility, low opportunities, high health, housing, and education costs, and somewhat shorter lifespans. The differences will be almost invisible to anyone but statisticians and economists...and activists. Which is why we must ALL become activists.
FentuckyCriedKhicken
I’ve been working hard before. It really did pay off. Paid off for my boss’s son getting a fancy 16 year old birthday party on his new yacht, and a year later his dad bought him 2 sports cars. I contributed. So proud.
madeejit
You'll never get rich without making someone else rich first.
MissSiesta
Hevach
And this is why gen z is pioneering all the things that people are trying to call lazy. They see that each living generation was more educated and more productive than the one before, but was poorer for their efforts. Millennials having three paychecks and a side hustle per household and still one check engine light away from homeless, why SHOULD they work hard just to have even less?
erinaceus
^^^this.
Knowfear1337
Exactly, I'm a millennial and I agree completely why the fuck should I work hard to get the benefit of being given more work to do
JustAPileOfCats
Rich nepo babies have a horribly skewed view of the world.
bourbontheshieldanvil
Who could have guessed, right? Lol
Tumescentpie
And are in firm control of it.
datester35
How rich do you have to be to fall into this though? Like I feel that some people that just have slightly above average opportunities (top 25ish percent) have similar views. It's not particularly jaded or skewed, they just have a lot more training, support, and resources dedicated to them.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
There should be some kind of program for them, that puts them in a different city, with a new name, no contact to their family, and no access to their ressources, then forces them to live off a minimum wage job for a year or two. Like witness protection, except it protects the rest of society.
SpacecouchCowboy
I have a cousin a few times removed who is also this vocal and equally self-made
ThatTransformersDude
Grew up with a guy, both of us immigrants but his family came early with more cash in hand and set up their own business so he was raised in a nice part of town and became the "bought my Subaru with my parents money all by myself" and would bitch about the government taxing his hard earned money while others freeloaded off him
ThatTransformersDude
Sorry meant to say while he freeloaded from his folks. Kids don't write stuff at 2 am when you should be in bed.
godzilladc
Born on third base while thinking they got there themselves.
getoffmydangle
*thinking they got a triple
godzilladc
Yeah, that.
kgfox
honey most of them are born 4.5 inches from home plate and still think they're self-made
godzilladc
I agree, sweetie.